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Is this a serious question, a jab at abr, or something else?In post 10, VP Baltar wrote:Also, what's a friendly neighbor?-
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It is page 3In post 71, Testarossa wrote:I am kind of torn on you. On one hand I can see you trying to get some conversation going and to figure Elements out in one way... however on the other hand your questions also feel a bit like filler that doesn't really bring too much on the table, but make you look engaged.-
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In post 178, Green Crayons wrote:Okay. Short of an official meta analysis, is him asking Qs re how others are reading him consistent with his personality or behavior from whatever games you’ve played with him, either scum or town or both?
Question is open to the floor for anyone whose played with Datisi, ofc.
I don't think there's enough info in the thread to make any kind of meta call.In post 179, Green Crayons wrote:
Like, I feel not wanting to dig up old cases, but presumably since you raised your hand you have some sense of his personality/style of play as either scum or town or both. Curious if this is consistent.In post 178, Green Crayons wrote:Short of an official meta analysis,
I don't see why datisti can't do what they've done as either alignment so far-
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Do you need something?In post 351, Lunar Martian wrote:Personally I'm more interested in Dunnstral and whether he always is this lurky and fluffy.
I'm down to wagon GC.-
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Because I didn't see it.In post 355, VP Baltar wrote:
Why are you posting regularly in other games but not here?In post 354, Dunnstral wrote:
Do you need something?In post 351, Lunar Martian wrote:Personally I'm more interested in Dunnstral and whether he always is this lurky and fluffy.
I'm down to wagon GC.
Why did you ignore my request for some reads?
This game isn't interesting right now
Reads: Green Crayons, Reformed Toxic Player for town
Scumreads: Not really sure, Elements was/is being weird, Testarossa I understand little of what is going on in her head despite her posts and it feels like she's said less than she has
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Do you think he could be tmi defending me here? (assume I'm town)In post 589, VP Baltar wrote:My point is that your opinion on dunn doesn't logically flow.
Now, people say illogical things all the time. I certainly do. But if someone came in the thread and had Dunn listed near the top of their town reads list, you can believe I'd be suspicious of that person given how that is clashing with my viewpoint as a town member.-
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In post 576, ItalianoVD wrote:In 415 I mentioned everyone else is null... here’s my feelings on those slots.
Datisi- Unreadable, but something feels odd. The tone of your posts feel almost like you’re thumbing your nose at us. Like you know something and are toying with us. But maybe that’s just your play style. Now a few of the players have played with you and the atmosphere around you is pretty split. I’ve never played with you so I placed you here based on what those people have said.
Dunnstral- Is an unreadable players since you play the same as both alignments, which is why I have you as null. All I know is your town games.
Harumi- As you know I’m currently playing two games with you. This one and the another one and I can’t read you, which is why I have you at null. Your play could come from both town and scum.
Tessa- You’ve only posted several times and I’d say your posts weren’t bad, but not enough to get a real read on you. It’s why I placed you here.
Elements- I literally don’t have a read for you. You may be like Dunn and play similar regardless of alignment, but I only have a town game for you and this could be that, but not having a scum game to compare, I can only place you here.
I don't think this is true about me-
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More towny than not, I don't want him elimmed but it was a thought I had in regards to my wagonIn post 625, VP Baltar wrote:Dunn, how do you feel about andres?-
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What game was this that I 'burned' vp baltar?In post 626, RLotus wrote:I know you said you did that in a previous game and got burned by him but yea.-
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VP Baltar you've seen me with low activity as scum before. OK, that's not an end-all-be-all case against me. That happens as town too. "He's lurking" was never a case against me, and saying 'exactly' when asked what I did to make me get votes is also not a case against me.
The tunneling can be scum-motivated in that it doesn't pay attention to other slots (you're not doing this though)-
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VOTE: Elements
Not a fan of RTP wagon
I'd need a better case on RTlotus to vote for them than the kill kill kill stuff-
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Obviously I become readable at some point, pushing me from the word go because I didn't produce enough content for your liking isn't productiveIn post 985, VP Baltar wrote:
So how should one differentiate your scum lurking from your town lurking?In post 984, Dunnstral wrote:VP Baltar you've seen me with low activity as scum before. OK, that's not an end-all-be-all case against me. That happens as town too. "He's lurking" was never a case against me, and saying 'exactly' when asked what I did to make me get votes is also not a case against me.
The tunneling can be scum-motivated in that it doesn't pay attention to other slots (you're not doing this though)-
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It looked fair to me.In post 988, VP Baltar wrote:This isn't disney world on your birthday. No free passes.
Anyhow, what do you think of Lotus' case on me?-
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I went back and looked at it when you asked for my opinion.In post 1015, VP Baltar wrote:
So what this means is you're reading the game and intentionally choosing not to post about it, as opposed to just casually lurking because you don't feel like efforting.In post 1014, Dunnstral wrote:
It looked fair to me.In post 988, VP Baltar wrote:This isn't disney world on your birthday. No free passes.
Anyhow, what do you think of Lotus' case on me?
I reiterate, how is one supposed to tell your town and scum lurking apart?-
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How did they form their reads list?In post 1709, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:but the way italiano formed their reads list suggests they arent flipping town-
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This post pings meIn post 1528, midwaybear wrote:That feel when the three top wagons (as of 1440) are your three stated townreads
Feels like something that comes from scum
1132 and 1362 feel scummy to me as well
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The way he emphasizes stated townreads but he's more making a show about it than pointing anything out
Throwing out 'the way he formed his reads list' didn't make sense to me.In post 1717, DkKoba wrote:but interesting u chose to latch onto that vs actually catching up.-
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The way he emphasizes stated townreads but he's more making a show about it than pointing anything out
Throwing out 'the way he formed his reads list' didn't make sense to me.In post 1717, DkKoba wrote:but interesting u chose to latch onto that vs actually catching up.-
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Was it scummy?In post 1730, Momrangal wrote:GAIZE I KNO MY SLOT WAS SCUMMY BUT I SWEARZ IM TOWN
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Why did you post 1730?In post 1735, Momrangal wrote:I don't know, was it? Didn't get a chance to catch up over night, I'm only on page 15.
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I know what you're talking about, I don't know if I believe it personallyIn post 1747, Momrangal wrote:Nearly all of her posts feel forced to me, and I didn't like their entire stance on elements was pretty yucky.
It reads to me looking for something to push, and besides all that, I don't see a whole lot of pressure on her at that point in time and she just... disappeared.
Just got to the replacement, gonna try and keep an open mind but ehhh....
I could maybe follow you on dun, idk
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I didn't thoughIn post 1754, Momrangal wrote:But you decide to call me out on it.
INTERESTING.
I purposely invoked amish cuz Baltar <3-
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So the amish tell is when you badmouth your predecessors actions, but that's not what you do hereIn post 1734, Dunnstral wrote:
Was it scummy?In post 1730, Momrangal wrote:GAIZE I KNO MY SLOT WAS SCUMMY BUT I SWEARZ IM TOWN
Why do you feel the need for this defense?
You say it's "scummy" which is interesting because I didn't perceive it that way and so I want to know why you did and why you were bringing it up
I also didn't vote for you-
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Well if you say so, then that must be correct. Thanks, I wasn't aware I was doing thatIn post 1849, Momrangal wrote:So, yes. You were getting ready to make a push against me with the amish tell in mind-
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You had a chance to vote him while a wagon was building there but chose to counter-wagon on me isnteadIn post 1799, VP Baltar wrote:
No I'm not saying I was scum reading midway. I'm saying that is one possible answer for Dunn's avoiding an inevitable wagon.In post 1794, Andresvmb wrote:
You said you were SR’ing Dunn and midwaybear. Today. But your explanation is something that literally didn’t happen. So what are you saying exactly?In post 1793, VP Baltar wrote:
You kidding? You know scum know who the town are, right?In post 1788, Andresvmb wrote:
Okay but Italiano flipped Town so how is this remotely relevant?In post 1786, VP Baltar wrote:Dunn's unexplained aversion to voting Italiano at that point pinged me at the time as him possibly voting a scum buddy for future town cred.-
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I don't really know why I'm being run up today anywayIn post 1838, Andresvmb wrote:
I’m skeptical that you have the game right, I don’t think Dunn will flip Scum, and I’m just generally annoyed that there’s so much... passivity in this game. I don’t have you as Scum right now. But I don’t like arguments that are easily disproven either. Trying to discredit me by making an argument that was false IS annoying. I am not just blindly going to follow along here. I want to see people be aggressive and push to figure out what’s going on. 6 votes so quickly on Dunn - does that seem like an engaged Town to you?In post 1834, Datisi wrote:ok so i was working under the assumption that you hating my smugness = scumreading it but now i'm confused. can you lay out what's your read on me right now?-
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It's cherry picking
If you notice, I didn't have a whole lot to say throughout the entirety of day 1. Phrasing it as if I was doing something special around the italiano wagon is misleading - were you expecting me to be more engaged?-
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I don't think he ever implied he was going to self hammer. Or if he did, I didn't see it
I didn't realize he was going to be stubborn enough to hammer himself instead of claiming
If he was going to sit at l-1 without claiming, that's something to talk about too (unless someone quickly hammers him)
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Again, it's cherry-picking, I wasn't following the thread closely enough to be deeply opposed to anything other than an elim on myself. I took a look while the wagon was forming and pointed out that I liked something he did, it's not my fault that nobody cared. I then started looking for scum and didn't like what midway was doing-
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No response necessaryIn post 1867, VP Baltar wrote:
Look at the ending vote count for D1 and then reevaluate your statement.In post 1859, Dunnstral wrote:I'd prefer if you used your words-
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I don't feel good about making one right nowIn post 1866, Datisi wrote:In post 1757, Datisi wrote:dunn, can i get a readslist or something from you?
I think midway looks bad and vp baltar's push coming into day 2 looks bad
And that there's probably scum who jumped on me today-
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I don't agree with your definition of Amish tellIn post 1849, Momrangal wrote:
The Amish tell is when the replacement show's high levels of awareness of what their predecessor is doing while not having much of a handle of the game state. Its more than just bad mouthing the predecessor and the tell includes seemingly notable opinion on what their predec was doing. The idea is that scum are most likely going to iso their predecessor to see how messed up they areIn post 1756, Dunnstral wrote:So the amish tell is when you badmouth your predecessors actions, but that's not what you do here
Just know that I was referencing it with the definition I described and my question to you was wondering what you were doing
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Weird takeawayIn post 1890, Cookie Monster wrote:Dunnstral - Seems to be a very experienced player so am going to really have a good look into ISO later because I feel this is a slot that could be scum but appear really towny-
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I'm not really sure what you're askingIn post 1935, Green Crayons wrote:
what's your usual trajectory for lurking as town v scum?In post 1933, Dunnstral wrote:So for what reason am I still the leading wagon?
say, specifically, with regard to beginning of d2
I haven't been lurking on day 2
Because he's tunneled on it to a strange degreeIn post 1939, Datisi wrote:you answer something i asked (1895)
And I appear to be his only scumread-
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I don't get why that's too strong for a scum role?In post 2179, midwaybear wrote:Honestly, an ungated neighborizer seems a bit strong as a scum role, but I'm not the greatest in balance.
Same sentiment at VPB thinking the neighborizer would get shot, not sure why that would happen
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So I've been getting tag teamed by GC and Datisi today. Who is the one orchestrating that in the pt?
Something to keep in mind is that GC would be locked into claiming neighborizer today since he targeted Datisi already.
I guess I don't get why the claim changes anything right now. Could be either alignment, not an important role.
I agree it's unlikely that the claim is fake-
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Doesn't your description of my play here sound different from the game where we were scum together?In post 2162, VP Baltar wrote:
I mean, reading back over those posts, I can say I was definitely annoyed with the way duchess was playing throughout the game, which came across to me as simultaneously disengaged and hyper aggressive.In post 2161, Momrangal wrote:I basically don't like how you have so much more to say about a supposed null lean town read than a strong scum read. BUT I caught something early day one and I maybe expecting some results from what I've seen
As much as I think Dunn could be scum here, he is pretty calm and doesn't aggressively misinterpret game statements.
I also acknowledge your perspective is likely very different since you weren't involved in real time.
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That's not how neighborhoods workIn post 2183, VP Baltar wrote:Suddenly then the uninformed majority becomes much closer to being informed.-
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I think there has been a miscommunication, I wasn't planning on rereading vp balterIn post 2188, Datisi wrote:
neither of us is orchestrating it, we voted you individually before even mentioning you in the hood.In post 2181, Dunnstral wrote:So I've been getting tag teamed by GC and Datisi today. Who is the one orchestrating that in the pt?
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In post 2286, DrippingGoofball wrote:
It will have to wait to tomorrow, I am swamped today.In post 2285, VP Baltar wrote:I'm eagerly awaiting DGB to get in the mix,
What. Also it was your predecessor who voted for Cookie MonsterIn post 2299, DrippingGoofball wrote:More cookie monster votes pls-
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