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[Cook]

VOTE: Son Of A Shepherd

4am is not a sane hour for me to play Mafia at.

[Cook]

bubbly bubble
bubbly bubble bubbly

you can be bubbly in a forum

easy for an axolotl to do.

sorry for not being active early on.

Dat wants to be townread, is begging to be townread.

Elements, Daisy, and Salsabil are just gonna go at it for a little bit. From experience, whoever has the largest wagon on them by the end of the argument will be hammered because little info D1.

[Cook]

Composing them right now.

Initial thoughts are scum in Elements, Daisy, and Salsa, but not more than two, and you're slightly below null. A lot of your posts were about catching scum and defending yourself. Let the game progress a bit.

[Cook]

who is scum, salsabil?

Isn’t it very early to ask this question?

it's never too early to start catching scum

Except NPOM, that read is solid

is this a meme or not, i can't tell

VOTE: oopsiedaisy

(3) That's the post, there.

(1) You haven't. I stand corrected.

(2) You haven't.

[Cook]

VOTE: Salsabil

Gut town read on cook. Everyone else step it up.

Someone do something to engage me. The back and forth between daisy and elements was boring and uninformative.

1. What do you read NPOM?
2. Do you expect scum to be obvious?
3. Is inactivity scummy for you?

[Cook]

First claim:

I am a Cop.

I CC Cop.

[Cook]

@Shigaraki: Are you a town cop?

Im an octopus cop

You find octopi?

[Cook]

*inhale*

omgus and defensiveness are not scummy!! you should know better!! are you cook's partner!! i'll get you voted out on day 2 bby just you wait!!!

yeah, they're just obnoxious

weren't you agreeing with me here that they're not scummy or am i misunderstand what you're referring to here?

why do you expect me to understand the things that come out of my mouth onto the page here?

the fact that you're quoting yourself means surely you must at least understand what you're saying

[Cook]

Cook
Rannygazoo
OopsieDaisy
Elements
Saudade
Prince Zuko
Son of a Shepherd
NoPowerOverMe
Luca Blight


so 3 scum in this 9.

Ranny/Cook stand out the most to me.

Saudade will town it up if town.

Nah.

[Cook]

okay, that is one post about "catching scum". that's not "a lot", and i still wait to see why that is supposed to be scummy.

cook, i'd like an elaboration on these.

Scumhunting before RVS is over?

Strange.

Ah, screw it, neither of us are right, it's T/T.

[Cook]

I'm serious. I'm cop.

[Cook]

And, adding on to that, I don't doubt Shig's cop claim either. What I do doubt is the inciters of both of these wagons.

UNVOTE: SoS

This will be better placed somewhere different.

[Cook]

Fish is good though.

[Cook]

I think there's something fishy in Denmark but I'll roll with it for now.

VOTE: Prince Zuko

Why Zuko?

[Cook]

He's not in the block and has been inactive.

Makes sense.

VOTE: OopsieDaisy

PSI increased to 15!

[Cook]

No because Shig is active and will continue to be so while Cook is being limited with their responses and not really putting up a fight. If Cook says, "no for real, I'm cop." Then I'll 100% back off but something tells me that isn't going to happen.

Wtf did you expect to happen after posting this

Are... you just wanting me to list the options?

Scum Cook claims Cop again to try and save himself.
Scum Cook panics and doesn't claim cop thinking thats what got him in this situation to begin with.
Town Cook claims Cop because is Cop.
Town Cook says he was trolling because that's what it looked like Shig did.

Option three, please.

[Cook]

Fair enough. For refresher, questions?

A scumread is different than a vote. As my RVS vote on SoS was doing nothing except decaying, and I saw someone vote a few posts ago, it seemed fair to give credence to the wagon and push for claim.

[Cook]

why are you pushing for a claim on a person who you apparently don't even scumread?? why are you doubting the inciters of both wagons??? what are your reads??? like show me anything that proves your thoughts this game are in some way connected and aren't made up scum bullcrap??

Reads change, do they not?
Creating two dominant wagons is a great way to distract the Town from voting?
I

am

scum bullcrap.

[Cook]

100% Without A Doubt Town

Cook, Noraa (i mean, hosting a game of mafia on a forum indicates that Noraa clearly isn't mafia scum. HOLD UP A SECOND...)

Town

|| Cook, NPOM, Rannygazoo

Mixed (Both town and scum but not "hard to get a read")

|| Datisi, DeathNote, Shig

Scum (Lean, except where

indicated

)

|| Oopsie, Elements, Rannygazoo

All else are null.

[Cook]

ooo you scum read me! tell me more

Wagon inciting. Scum-lean versus a scumread.

[Cook]

NORAA HOW DO YOU KEEP STEALING PAGETOPS

HOW DO YOU DO IT

[Cook]

That vote is unreasonable for day 1. We have two cop claims and they should live at least one day.

cook didn't even real cop claim when they did it, they didn't even do it as a fake one.

It was literally a joke cc for cook.

It's not the same as my claim.

That was a real claim from the start. Stop trying to farm lazy Town votes from people who won't reread.

VOTE: Shigaraki

[Cook]

Oh wait you're the other cop.

See I'm lazy too...

UNVOTE:

[Cook]

I'd take Deathnote over me.

VOTE: DeathNote

[Cook]

Oh, Luca! You're here.

Questions:
1. Strongest townread? Scumread?
2. What do you think of the cross-cops? Who do you believe?
3. If you had to spare one person from elimination who is being wagoned right now, who would it be?

[Cook]

I think I'm misunderstanding what CC means.

[Cook]

It means counter-claim.

Remember in the last game we played? You claimed Doc and I immediately CC'd you, because I knew you were lying.

oh right

thanks for reminding me

[Cook]

I CC'd the cop claim initially because I didn't believe it. However, Shig has been townie enough for me to believe that claim.

If I get hammered, Shig must post results each and every night from here on out.

[Cook]

Logic.

[Cook]

Hot Take: most everyone is much worse at mafia then they portray themselves to be but if you have enough confidence, it doesn't matter. You just force town to do what you want until you win.

I'm just bad at mafia, period. I'm here to mod.

[Cook]

that isn't to say you won't make good plays. I'm miserable at this game which is why I hardly ever play it anymore but I've noticed a trend that it's better to be loud then right.

being loud works in life in general

[Cook]

pagetop

[Cook]

but then that's deleting game-advancing content

[Cook]

game-advancing content

[Cook]

^ that's going in the signature

[Cook]

[offtopic]I swear, Son of a Shepherd is going to hammer with the Hat of Discipline. You cannot convince me otherwise.[/offtopic]

[Cook]

Again, won't vote Shig today because Cop claim, but after that just straight up spamming... tomorrow.

Also, flash wagon?

...

why

[Cook]

Excuse my ignorance, what be a weeb my friends? And, more importantly, why must we flirt when we discuss said weebs?

I’m disappointed that this is all he had to say about everything that happened today. He’s either lurking scum or worthless as town.

You should be glad, Cook.

Right, but wagoning a lurker?

To get them to come out of the shadows?

[Cook]

Were you the one I listed twice?

[Cook]

If so, Town.

[Cook]

I am a Macho Cop Mason.

Now get off of SoS. I baited the fuck out of that wagon

explain

[Cook]

Townblock time?

[Cook]

That means that the townblock controls the vote entirely.

Cast anyone out who doesn't join in on a block wagon within say 24 hours and I think you've got a nice restriction of FoS and Freedom of Speech (how convenient) going. Well done, NPOM.

[Cook]

I don’t really think Shig and Cook are scum together, but I really don’t think they’re town together.

eh, if cook is town, we're both town.

ive calmed down some today

sup, bitches

sup

if i'm town, shig is town

[Cook]

im masons with SoS and Prince Zuko.

can SoS confirm this?

[Cook]

If so, that eliminates the pool of voting down to 9 players, and a likely 3 scum - that means 33% chance to eliminate scum, all things null.

[Cook]

im masons with SoS and Prince Zuko.

Actually,

scratch #738.

Your "mason partners" are, coincidentally, the most inactive non v/la players right now.

Care to explain that?

[Cook]

Above post was written

Pre-743

for reader's reference

[Cook]

HOLY LORD I'M BAD AT TYPING RIGHT NOW

[Cook]

Pre-741, apologies.

[Cook]

you aren't going to get the next pagetop

[Cook]

Occam's Razor.

[Cook]

VOTE: SoS

[Cook]

Experience?

[Cook]

From experience?

[Cook]

correction: do you

have

experience and are you speaking from a position of authority on this matter?

[Cook]

Daisy I want to leave alone for the moment, she becomes very easy to read late game

In reference to this?

[Cook]

pagetop?

ninja'd, noraa?

[Cook]

wait, not yet. darn. I'll come back.

[Cook]

I thinking
Luca, npom, You, ranny
all pretty solid town reads atm

@Elements:

any likely pairs?

[Cook]

correction: do you

have

experience and are you speaking from a position of authority on this matter?

I have a lot of ftf experience with Daisy which is where my stance on her comes from. No forum experience, but I think a lot of her mannerisms and the way she'll try and game solve will carry over.

ftf?

[Cook]

get ninja'd noraa

[Cook]

dammit

[Cook]

ah

through video?

[Cook]

k cool

now to question someone else

[Cook]

I'm not really feeling many scum vibes from NPOM tbh.

I might be willing to compromise on Daisy.

@Luca:

1. Any likely pairs?
2. If one cop claim flips cop do you believe the other one?

[Cook]

Am I not already voting SoS?

[Cook]

It appears as though I am, but, for refresher:

VOTE: SoS

E-2, I think.

[Cook]

Well alright then.

[Cook]

quit whining noraa

VOTE: Noraa

POLICY ELIMINATION

[Cook]

VOTE: SoS

that was a non-serious vote

back to work

[Cook]

That was strange to walk in to.

[Cook]

i already know i was most likely mostly correct, so im fine leaving this game, and finding out who the scum team is and calling it a personal victory.

Idea: let's vote out Shig so they don't have to play the game. But tomorrow, in case the Mafia want to do the job.

[Cook]

Acknowledging I have sort of read the thread up to this point.

[Cook]

...but you hadn't even heard my reasoning?

do you have an opinion on my slot yet?

This is what sticks out to me most. Fishing for credit, esp early on in the game.

[Cook]

if you're asking if i've played with scum!luca, i have once.

if you're asking if my slot is scum, it's not. :3

who is scum, salsabil?

Isn’t it very early to ask this question?

it's never too early to start catching scum

This all sticks out too

[Cook]

My current read on Dat? Calmed down, back to a null-townread.

[Cook]

Why do I townread Datisi? A lack of scummy behavior. Everyone's a little bit scummy to someone at some point but by not doing anything like referring to town in third person that means you're townie by fact of not being scummy.

[Cook]

Cook

:

I saw that you're dodging people's questions on you. I am gonna ask you some questions too, if you dodge them then you're scum to me.

On 95, you said

Datisi

is begging to be townread. What made you think like this that time? What your current read on

Datisi

?

For your 97, I asked you a question on 102 which you don't give any answer to yet.

Accepting faults is good (99) but can be done as both town/scum, so this is null for now.

230 indicates town!you were trying to read

Rannygazoo

better.

You disagree with

Shigaraki

on 259 but didn't give any reason. Will you do that now?

if you and

Datisi

both were wrong on some point, then how it indicates TvT (refer: 341)?

Can you tell me what do you mean by this sentence on 370:

What I do doubt is the inciters of both of these wagons

.

On 420, you read

Rannygazoo

both as town and scum, how does this happen? If you're not sure about him, shouldn't he be in the mixed option then? Also, I want to know about the reasons behind your townreads and scumreads of this post.

What was in your mind when you voted

DeathNote

on 453?

Town!you tried to read

Luca Blight

better on 460.

Now, about your 'cc cop' drama: On 231, you cc cop which seemed like a joke to me. Then on 369 you said you're serious, which meant you really are a cop. Later on post 414 and 445, you said the same thing. Now my question is, how do we know that you're a town cop? Cause even if you're a real cop, doesn't indicate that you're a town.

446 is a bit of a strange post. You and

Shigaraki

can't be both town cops, right?

Your 463 and 555 literally contradict all these above 'cc cop' related post! So which one is right? Are you a cop or not?

Don't understand 614 at all!

Can't tell if you're shading or pushing or supporting

NoPowerOverMe

on 733 as you townread him on 420.

How you and

Shigaraki

can be both towns (refer: 738)?

Agree with your 743.

Your reason behind this vote on 759 and 818?

Not sure about these 797 and 808, can be town posts or not, null for now.

You're a

Null/

Scum

to me right now.

1. Answered in previous posts.

2. You could be scum if we placed a wagon on you and flipped red
In seriousness, it's unlikely that you'd be scum in that scenario but an "It's between X and Y" is too deathtunnely.

3-4. aren't questions

5. Better reason? "Ranny/Cook stand out the most to me." Assuming that list in in order from scum to town, I especially disagree with this, as a Town Cop.

6. Argument defusal mostly.

7. While I didn't doubt that Shig is a cop, I did doubt that the people who were pushing the earlygame wagons had townsided intent.

8. Accidental. Should have gone in the "mixed" category.
I know I'm town, and that was a joke with th emod.
I like NPOM. Again, ranny should have been a mixed.
Dat clearly was T/T with me in that argument but I didn't clear Dat of suspicion. Hence, mixed.
DeathNote I had a slight suspicion they were scum but that they were also town and I didn't have a strong pref either way.
Shig... I began doubting the veracity of the cop claim at this point but I also believed it too.
Oopsie and Elements... Oopsie I didn't like, and Elements incited a wagon, hence.

9. because of Shig's 447.

10. not a question.

11. I flip a green-colored Cop that tried to assist the Town. Really simple.

12.

I. Am. A. Cop.

555 is still good. I believe Shig. Initially, as I found it unlikely two cops was a thing, I didn't believe Shig, but now I dol.

13. It's possible. We know nothing on the setup.

14. It's an offtopic thing, hence my pseudo-bbcode.

15. It's support, albeit strangely worded.

16. Retracted with 743.

17. Thank you for reading properly.

18. Townblock. I joke-voted the moderator as a "POLICY ELIMINATION" and then re-voted SoS so that the vote still counted in anyone's book.

19. They're pretty normal questions that bring out information that can be used to read other players and keep everyone on the same page.

[Cook]

also why are you so keen on lynching SoS I honestly dont even have a mental record of him being in this game tbh

*lim

[Cook]

No purple breakdown for the chosen one?
This group is wasting their vote on a VT.

Should have claimed cop

game-advancing content

[Cook]

V/LA for today and tomorrow. (expired on 2021-02-08 19:54:10) until V/LA expires.

[Cook]

Blocked.

[Cook]

Blocked.

How do you know?

I got "no result" as opposed to "Town" or "Not Town."

[Cook]

VOTE: Cook

I challenge thee to provide evidence to the contrary of my conclusion.

[Cook]

I should change my name to NWOM.

No Wagon On Me.

VOTE: Saudade

E-1 so that I can cop someone.

[Cook]

@cook we all know you'll be "blocked" tonight.

hmm

i find this unlikely

[Cook]

Cook who did you target?

Attempted to target Elements, no result.

[Cook]

Also I will hands down vote out cook before voting out his guilty tomorrow.

but what if i get an innocent

[Cook]

@cook we all know you'll be "blocked" tonight.

hmm

i find this unlikely

why did you make this post?

I don't think I'm getting blocked.

I think I'm going to get killed.

[Cook]

Cook, why did you self-vote?

Realize this:

Several People

VOTE: Name
Prove me wrong.

The natural inclination, is, of course, to try and prove that person wrong, to challenge and revise hypotheses.

By self-voting, both as a joke vote, but also using this format, that means to "prove me wrong" is to prove my innocence.

Logic.

[Cook]

Based on what?

The Mafia killed one cop claim and it didn't turn out to be a Cop.

Therefore, the other Cop has to be real.

Killing a Cop is faster than permablocking them.

[Cook]

But he

claimed

in the first place.

[Cook]

I should change my name to NWOM.

No Wagon On Me.

VOTE: Saudade

E-1 so that I can cop someone.

Shoot! I didn't see this before the unvote. What is your reason?

Pressure, and also it makes it easier to pull votes together to hammer if we decide this is the thing we jump on.

Also if someone lolhammers or something similar then we know to get them tomorrow, and it also fuels my investigations by allowing me to check the hammerer, which confirms our suspicions about that player, and also then gives me towncred and develops the game state for all of us.

[Cook]

Cook who did you target?

Attempted to target Elements, no result.

Why

Elements

?

Remember a while back about how I doubted the wagoneers for Day One?

Wanted to confirm that.

Also I haven't seen Elements post a lot recently, so there's that.

[Cook]

as someone who knows Cook could actually be cop

TMI slip?

[Cook]

VOTE: Saudade

Do you just hammer??

you unvoted, remember?

[Cook]

There's also the possibility the roleblock was a JK and the Mafia have no roleblocker.

Which is possible.

[Cook]

Also I will hands down vote out cook before voting out his guilty tomorrow.

but what if i get an innocent

Jester?

Non-Normal. We would have been told of its presence even if it could appear.

[Cook]

VOTE: Saudade

Do you just hammer??

you unvoted, remember?

I lost the vote counts, he is on e-2 then?

-1 I think.

[Cook]

Dat, why are you resisting doing this?

[Cook]

VOTE: Datisi

Life can wait.

get listing

[Cook]

Completely unnecessary vote count.

[Cook]

Saud, claim.

[Cook]

VOTE: Saudade

If saud flips mafia then dat is partner

[Cook]

Pagetop, noraa.

[Cook]

town saudade -> town daisy, scum datisi, scum daathnote
scum saudade -> scum daisy, town datisi

shockingly, I am absent.

[Cook]

What if Saud flips Mason?

[Cook]

pagetop

[Cook]

Still not a pagetop

[Cook]

one stop kpop cop shop
seems quite sided to the lop for the maf

[Cook]

i rlly hope this is a legitimate 3 cop game and it's all mod wifom

imagine there's no prots

[Cook]

And, thank you, noraa, for letting me have this pagetop.

[Cook]

RANNY ACTUALLY DID IT

[Cook]

Bah!

[Cook]

there's an entire game designed around that stuff

mountainous vengeful

[Cook]

Anyways, that was a game.

Don't think I'll be playing any games for a little bit.

Modding's much more my style.