Mini Normal 2170: Stuff I’m Listening To [Game Over]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you really didnt look up your role in the wiki?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so when u got this shitty wierd pr you never saw before you didnt think to go search the wiki to see what its used for?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'd be ok with Blitzo or Noraa yeet here - Gamma feels pretty townie to me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Gamma feels very transparent and townie and I don't think Gamma takes this line of play if he's scum with a Town!Blitzo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

there's other stuff too that gamma mentioned - like the way you latched on to the anti-Gamma case which mostly centered on his shift in relation with you - despite knowing that the shift was due to your overnight convo in the neighborhood.

That part is super shady af.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

see 2272

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's actually not.
Have you read UG's case?
Serious question.

yea I did.

there's an entire paragraph on your interaction:

And now… after spending twilight being real mad at Blitzo, and having Blitzo being real questioning of him…. We’re right back to Panzer with nary a comment on that topic, or on the topic of the Pooky case that looked good all of a sudden when it was only noticed too late to make a difference to MC’s day one fate? And Blitzo is right there following him on it, which seems weird, but Blitzo and Panzer have been shitty with each other for the entire game and it fits in with my earlier assessment of Blitzo's method of target accquisition so far, which may not actually be AI.

And other things about Gamma's progressions.

You being in a neighborhood with him had access to information that directly refutes this...

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@pooky - there were two goddamn lines about the neighborhood. WHAT ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE?

the whole point of his Gamma case was that his progression doesn't make sense.

but you being in a neighborhood with him and talking it out with him - makes that progression make sense.

Do you not understand!?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why wouldn't you want to claim masons? it's a pretty good way to draw mafia NK if you are T-T and if you don't draw NK you have an idea it's not T-T.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't get why bulge is trying to kill outworld

someone catch me up

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

he claimed IC doesnt he just become conf town tomm?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if he doesnt we can just elim him then right? what's the rush?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wait am i being trolled here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is blitzo doing anything interesting in the neighborhoood?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Honestly if he's scum that claim is best for buying him

exactly

one more day.
That might be exactly what he was banking on.

like I don't get this comment at all.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think we need to reassess the fact that the reason this game might be so confusing is because TSQ is actually scum - there's pretty much no reason to kill UG over him and that really needs to be looked into.

or this post

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Blitzo

It feels like he's shading a lot of people for really bad reasons.

also there is the bonus of helping figure out Gamma's alignment if this is a red flip.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

make your case on shea or bulge then?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you're fishing for traction on d3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pretty funny coming from "shea's alive he must be scum" dude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok good talk

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so why didnt you push me on d2.

funny how you only vote me when I vote you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Gamma spent the majority of day 1 convincing me not to.
Then I did environmental analysis and came to the conclusion that I should spend time voting elsewhere.

It's also much more apparent you don't care about my answers or anything I say when you actually vote me so there's that.

ok sure explain yourself then if you say I'm mis-reping you.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok then you say it's not fishing for traction, you mind telling me what's the point of making a comment like this:

I don't really know how I feel about that elimination tbh. It feels like the tunnels in this game are crazy deep and need to be reassessed.
UG was also pretty inactive and, along with the duppin kill, reeks of trying to preserve gamestate.
I think we need to reassess the fact that the reason this game might be so confusing is because TSQ is actually scum - there's pretty much no reason to kill UG over him and that really needs to be looked into.

Like what's your goal? What's your line of thought? What do you want to assess?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why would any1 be ok with being limmed

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Sifting through people who are coasting. I've been posting about this almost since day 1 and don't see why I should reiterate it again - this is pretty much the primary thing that I've been focused on since the start of the game almost, and I've harped on it almost every single day since EoD1.

ok so how does posting speculation about Shea not being dead help you do the above?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think we need to reassess the fact that the reason this game might be so confusing is because TSQ is actually scum - there's pretty much no reason to kill UG over him and that really needs to be looked into.

I don't understand why you would say this in your first post waking up from D3 if your plan is to go after the "backgroundy players" as you put it.

Do you suspect Shea for being alive or not?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

are you trolling me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I dunno how you went from Pooky must be scum otherwise the fabric of reality would break to "hey let's kill PJ" in like 1 minute.

Like lol what?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Honestly how fucking dare you

Shea I need some unreasonable spam out of you so Blitzo can't use the "too reasonable line of attack on you"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this game is so depressing someone is claiming suicidal innocent child.

w i l d

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

can i get a tldr summary

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

1. You're wrong.

2. I don't know what your chemist meta has to do with me. Correctly TRing creature in boardgames has like nothing to do with me here either.

3. maybe you should read blitzo's d3 entrance again and explain to me how that makes sense then?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Back during D1, I had balked at the fact Pooky had gotten 4 votes after Noraa had been voted by me and Shea. That pretty much made me unworkable for a long time when it came to convincing me of Pooky!scum. Now that I’ve dialed down the confbias, I see now that I seem to have had that same sort of poor play of looking at a wagon stall and assuming it to be scum driven. I think the Pooky voters from D1 (OWER, Blitzo, MCat, and Kasumeat) were probably all town given how this seems to have become history repeating itself. Plus I think a Pooky scumflip clears both Blitzo and Kasu, and OWER can be mechsolved by tomorrow.

and a pooky greenflip means you are at lylo tommorrow with no paddle and no clue

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why dont you explain what your hood-partner is doing then. I find his entrance posts susp - you tell me why they make sense?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok what does game state preservation even mean?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Ok so that part doesn't make any sense.

Let's move on to the next part.

He shades shea twice on entrance:

I think we need to reassess the fact that the reason this game might be so confusing is because TSQ is actually scum - there's pretty much no reason to kill UG over him and that really needs to be looked into.

Yes please do that - I think shea should definitely start being considered for realsies now.

Considering we're probably 1 day from lylo with 2 dead investigative roles - can you explain to me what the point of these shea comments are?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok but why would he say that?

like if he thinks shea's scum - he should make a case for shea being scum.

If he doesn't think Shea's scum - then he doesn't have to say anything. Who is he expecting to come in and solve Shea here?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Like at a basic level if I suspect someone and I am going to start deep diving them - I'd have at least some basis to start looking right? His only motivation for Shea-scum is because Shea is alive apparently and he doesn't understand why scum would kill UG over Shea?

Like how does that even make sense as a starting point?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Shea literally just led a mis-lynch on Noraa yesterday and Blitzo is wondering why scum didn't shoot shea the night after. Like is this serious?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

How do you think this is a real thought going thru his head?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think we need to reassess the fact that the reason this game might be so confusing is because TSQ is actually scum - there's pretty much no reason to kill UG over him and that really needs to be looked into.

No this quote mentions specifically that there is no reason to kill UG over TSQ - it's comparative. The implication is that TSQ is alive because he's scum no?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This seems super dissonant given Pooky was seeing the same sort of things UG was seeing from me, but from Blitzo instead
Either Pooky is extremely bad at being self-aware or he’s scum

Can you explain this?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you're quoting me twice the same quote so did you mess up your quotes? what is dissonant?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't get it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

What do you mean by checking my own self about blitzo's interactions with you?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yes that was before the hood reveal.

I didn't like Blitzo's response to UG's megapost because he didn't put down his opinion on it one way or the other - instead he is asking other people what their opinions are of Gamma.

It made Blitzo look more shady because he started asking people what they thought of you after UG's megapost - he knew the basis of the issues UG had was due to mech - UG didn't know that you two were in a neighborhood together and that you talked over the night. - so he could've shut it down by saying that it was mech-related but instead he's asking other players what they think of you. I had stated this in D2.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

while the way Pooky asks the questions constantly and doesn’t seem to ever really get much out of it

I am trying to show you Blitzo is scum because his thought process doesn't make any sense if he were town.

Your answers to me are basically "yes this doesn't make sense but he's probably just confused town"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't really know how I feel about that elimination tbh. It feels like the tunnels in this game are crazy deep and need to be reassessed.
UG was also pretty inactive and, along with the duppin kill, reeks of trying to preserve gamestate.
I think we need to reassess the fact that the reason this game might be so confusing is because TSQ is actually scum - there's pretty much no reason to kill UG over him and that really needs to be looked into.

UG checked Gamma and came back with not VT - seems likely that's where his case came from.
Makes sense to me.

like what does the first line even mean? What tunnels need to be re-assessed?

The 2nd line about preserving game-state - you say it means to keep questions from being asked - ok like what questions was UG/Duppin going to ask? He even says UG/Duppin were inactives - what were these inactives trying to do?

third line - TSQ is scum because there's "no reason to kill UG over TSQ" - like how does he even come to that conclusion? - didn't second line say UG was killed for game-state preservation?? Would killing TSQ be better for game state preservation? How?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Blitzo isn't Noraa.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok but you know I can't see your hood right? he's never laid out any actual reason for shea being scum other than "he's alive" and when I pressed him on it he said it's because "shea makes sense" !?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like do you see Shea disrupting the game state right now? Would this d3 look any different if Shea was unable to talk with a bullet in his head?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so he thinks you guys are masons? that makes his response to UG even worse.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i didnt even know he didnt know scum could be in a hood

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

where is that townslip?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im searching his iso to find the townslip

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i didnt know you meant he said that in the hood when i asked you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

UNVOTE:

ok i'll take your word that it's a credible townslip then

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cuz we can wait until tomorrow and we won't lose anything?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

how are we still discussing this

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im kinda wary of massclaims after that disaster during you know what.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Shea, Bulge

do either of you actually expect to get the other eliminated today?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

because niether of you seem very interested in convincing any of us to look into your silly slapfight.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

let's do it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm a Odd Vote SuperSaint(All odd votes on me die on elim)

Pass the ball to Shea.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm a VT

you guys do not get my jokes

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

isnt 7 and 8 the same thing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I wonder if it's just pooky and shea in the scum pt rn panicking about how they jumped the gun and ignored this fact and don't know where to pivot the push from here, or if the third partner is lurking there too

are you trolling me dude

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

targetted Pooky N1 wow.

4 real man? you thought I was gonna get NK'd on N1?

good jokes

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what about it?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ROFL ROFL

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can't imagine anyone sane taking that claim seriously

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what crumb?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that's just basic wagon analysis

there's like no such thing as an odd vote super saint - even in like role madness games much less in normal queues.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You Katsu NM

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its the one that makes the most sense

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

whats your solve?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

am i getting trolled here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this has to be a massive troll

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok. someone explain to me how the fuck a setup of 2 vanilla neighbours, a neopolitan and a fucking CHECKER makes sense.

do you guys notice something missing here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

neighbors + neo + checker + IC is balanced vs 3 scum in a 10:3 - there's literally no missing town power.

bulge claiming he didnt protect the claimed IC and instead protected Katsu is lol hilarious - what scumteam would even shoot Katsu there.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

bulge do you think the scum know the outworld is conf town?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so why would the scum leave IC - 2 Neighbors who are townreading each other and high influence - alive and shoot Katsu of all people?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

because your theory relies on scum being smart enough to slide thru to d4 without losing a member but idiotic enough to go for an unwinnable endgame against an IC/2Neighbors/____ by targetting Katsu of all people.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

are you slipping that both neighbours are town?

the neighbors are town-reading each other and high-influence slots - you really think scum doesn't shoot there and shoots Katsu of all people?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its not a theory lol. i protected kasu and nobody is dead. those are facts.

protective claims mean nothing at MyLo - you win the game at 7 or 8 the same way.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I FUCKING KNOW WHERE SCUM SHOT BECAUSE MY DETAINEE DIDNT DIE HOLY SHIT

Your no-kill into protective claim gambit at MyLo would work a lot better if you claimed a believable prot target like Outworld ER but you decided to go with Chicken Katsu instead cuz you're worried your scumbuddy would get POE'd and then you'd have to answer awkward questions tomm like "why are you alive"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why would scum let an IC live lol this is wild

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is literally the worst no kill into protective gambit i've ever seen.

im like an expert at nokill protective gambits

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok but why would you elim Outworld yesterday when you can just wait until today and know for sure?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like your entire rush to elim outworld on D3 made no sense.

neither do your nightchoices as a "protective"

you claimed to have not protected a single person correctly until MyLo when it doesn't really make a difference.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

here i'll tell you what really happened.

You saw the POE tightening, you knew you had not great options, you pushed Outworld hard yesterday cuz IC is not really great news for you - failed to push it through....

Then you knew it was probably going to be your head on a plate today since you failed to push Outworld out yesterday - so you went NoKill so you could do a protective gambit claim.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so every1 believes we had an IC, Neo, Checker who could be confirmed, neighbors and Jailkeeper too

w i l d

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea im sure the mod was thinking hmm the town looks kinda powered up - let me nerf the neopolitian by adding another PR...

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i find it hilarious that everyone apparently thinks this game makes sense with a jailkeeper lulz

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so this is 10-3 with 3 tprs that can conf innocents? really ? :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if you guys want to live in fantasy land where this game is near lockwin on d4 despite hitting 0 scum then feel free to believe bulge

its p obv bulge knew he was going to get pushed hard today cuz outworld will flip so he did a nokill into prot gambit because he knows a protective makes 0 sense in this setup.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oops my bad guys

i still do not believe bulge is a protective role

sheas poe solve is laughably bad

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i like no yeet

i wanna see what bulges excuse for being alive tomm is

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i will no yeet but I will give the opposing scum side time to say whatever crappy wifom logic they want.

more rope to hang them with

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if bulge wakes up tommorrow pls elim him for me

<3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok can we kill bulge now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

there's no way we have a protective.

there's a dead IC on the floor that says so.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is it silly?

Why would scum target Kasu N3 and not the person who was claiming IC?

this is why I didn't believe your LJK claim at first, I'm still not sure I do.

It really is not indisputable fact. I can think of multiple reasons scum would no-kill, such as wanting to gambit a protective claim during MeLo to try and secure the win today, or not seeing good targets for a kill because said kills might implicate one of the team

I am, however, not seeing any reason to target Kasu.

VOTE: No Eliminate

I think this is probably the best option today.

If I die tonight then Bulge is most likely lying about his claim. The only possibility he's not is if there's a strongman, which, I hate to try and outguess the mod, but I doubt in this setup. He should absolutely target me.

Bulge dying clears Kasu meaning we have two conftown going into Day 5.

Anybody else dying we'll cross the bridge as we come to it, but I still think we have good info regardless.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea i wonder why you would kill the IC-town who has the strongest influence slot and doesn't believe your BS protective claim

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

because outworld doesn't believe his claim and outworld as mod-confirmed IC is the highest influence slot in the game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what is there to work thru

We had 1 confirmed town IC

that IC is now dead.

How much more obvious does it have to get that we do not have a freaking protective?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you continue to ignore my alternatives every time you play the "has everyone in this game lost their freaking minds?!?!?" card.

I don't see a single valid reason for a town protective to not protect the IC in the game.

yesterday you argued it was because you suspected OutworldER was scum

you don't have that argument today.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm not sure how i feel about pooky's insistence that you're absolutely fakeclaiming scum but i feel like if i had actual deep reads in this game i would probably feel similar

ducky am I in lala land or something?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

What was he going to do. Leave the iC alive and let the IC push him today?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

are you still pretending this is some kind of gamble dude?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

bulge what did I say about what you did yesterday?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I said it made no sense for the scum to nightkill kasu - so I did not expect your claim to be true. I expected you to have no-killed to set up the prot claim.

Can you explain how protecting Kasu again makes any sense for addressing this theory of mine?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If I die tonight then Bulge is most likely lying about his claim. The only possibility he's not is if there's a strongman, which, I hate to try and outguess the mod, but I doubt in this setup. He should absolutely target me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It really is not indisputable fact. I can think of multiple reasons scum would no-kill, such as wanting to gambit a protective claim during MeLo to try and secure the win today, or not seeing good targets for a kill because said kills might implicate one of the team

I am, however, not seeing any reason to target Kasu.

This is why you killed outworld - you can't afford the high-influence IC slot not believing your fake-claim.

There is literally 0 incentive for a Town-JK to not protect the Town-IC. Hence we do not have a Town-JK

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok so why would the scum kill outworld if he was going to "carelessly vote you in lylo" as you put it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it was 100% an attempt to outguess the nightkill.

a real town jailkeeper doesn't have any incentive to outguess the nightkill

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what was the incentive bulge?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Let's say we're in a magical universe where you are actually a JK and for some unfathomable reason decided to play chicken with the bad guys and not protect our IC.

You send in the protect on Kasu

the Mafia for some inexplicable reason decide to kill Kasu of all people yet again.

We all wake up tomm 8 alive.

Tell me what you gained in this high stakes gamble.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

seems like that would be a pretty essential part of your job since your team has seen fit to assign you the sole task of "pissing off bulge every time he's in the thread" ever since the massclaim.

I'm town dude.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

how is it hard proof?

Outworld suspects you of no-killing to set up a prot gambit, why wouldn't you nokill again? it's not like there's town investigative roles you have to worry about.

Game state doesnt change you can just punt it back.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am town.

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt to explain to me your thought process - you say you did this high stakes gamble with the IC's life - show me what the hell the upside is then

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

The only world in which Kasu is scum is one in which scum decide to no kill gambit with a potential IC in the game, AND THEN THEY WENT AND KILLED THE IC ANYWAY WHICH WOULD ILLEGITIMIZE THE ENTIRE PLAY.
If Bulge’s REALLY WAS trying to fake it here, he would have JUST SEEN a game where someone made the same play, which he could use as a blueprint (maybe, idr the progress on that game when the claim happened here). In addition I really doubt Pooky and Bulge are EVER teamed here given that fact that Pooky was the perpetrator of the doctor claim gambit in the other game I’m citing rn.

To break this down more clearly, a game recently finished where Pooky fakeclaimed doctor as scum and got put into a spot where he could not make the needed kill without getting in deep trouble. Bulge was town in that game and, iirc, knew pretty close to when he claimed that Pooky’s claim was a scum gambit. So I think if Bulge’s was scum here, he might have taken cues from Pooky’s game, and either left things on evens to not give a solid read on the situation, or killed his initial clear Kasu and claimed to protect the obvious choice. Instead he literally made the exact move Pooky would have needed to CLAIM TO HAVE DONE in the other game that would never result in a net positive unless he managed to pull out a hard refuge in audacity WIFOM townread. As such I think it’s outlandish to think Bulge is faking it here.

I could've killed Tammy in that game at any time and just done what Bulge is doing here.

The only reason I didn't kill DGB at the end was because Peta was more likely to vote me than she was at the end of D6.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: No Eliminate

I think this is probably the best option today.

If I die tonight then Bulge is most likely lying about his claim. The only possibility he's not is if there's a strongman, which, I hate to try and outguess the mod, but I doubt in this setup. He should absolutely target me.

Bulge dying clears Kasu meaning we have two conftown going into Day 5.

Anybody else dying we'll cross the bridge as we come to it, but I still think we have good info regardless.

the IC did not believe Bulge's claim - that's the motive for Bulge to kill the IC.

the IC told Bulge to target him last night - Bulge has no reason not to target the IC.

the IC is dead now. Regardless of what WIFOM hell Scum want to throw us into - this game has a fairly simple solution- Bulge is scum and he killed Outworld because Outworld doesn't believe his claim.

Why would Bulge kill Outworld if it means he dies today? -> there's 2 other scum team members and trading an IC for a scum isn't even that big of a deal this late into the game. We elim Bulge today we are still in Lylo tomm.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm talking to the dead IC whos up in heaven with the angels at this point

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

every time I have seen you in xylo your face is exploding like a glorious supernova and I literally don't understand who you are talking to here

i'm clearly talking to god in heaven since nobody in this town is apparently on the same planet as me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

uh oh gamma has a skeleton now

i guess we r in for even more craziness

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

RC is a fine gentleman of outstanding character

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is the weirdest conversation ever

can u guys keep you strangeness to the neighborhood

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if blitzo is scum this is all your fault for not letting me yeet him 2 days ago

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Gamma is trying to channel RC but failing because he can't put his heart into it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you must be on crack if you think im scum with blitzo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

shea can you convince gamma that he's on crazy pills

thanks i cant talk to him every word out of my mouth he seems to think is "blah blah blah blah scum blah scum blah scum"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: No Eliminate

I think this is probably the best option today.

If I die tonight then Bulge is most likely lying about his claim. The only possibility he's not is if there's a strongman, which, I hate to try and outguess the mod, but I doubt in this setup. He should absolutely target me.

Bulge dying clears Kasu meaning we have two conftown going into Day 5.

Anybody else dying we'll cross the bridge as we come to it, but I still think we have good info regardless.

Im going to repost what our IC thought before he died yet again because apparently this is not obvious enough.

Read his ISO before Bulge shot him - he didn't believe Bulge's protective claim - now he's dead.

We do not have a protective town power role in this game.

If we did our IC would be alive.

We have a bad guy who walked up to our IC and shot him dead because we do not have a protective Town power role.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is it silly?

Why would scum target Kasu N3 and not the person who was claiming IC?

this is why I didn't believe your LJK claim at first, I'm still not sure I do.

It really is not indisputable fact. I can think of multiple reasons scum would no-kill, such as wanting to gambit a protective claim during MeLo to try and secure the win today, or not seeing good targets for a kill because said kills might implicate one of the team

I am, however, not seeing any reason to target Kasu.

this is why Bulge killed Outworld last night - he could not have the IC driving the bus on him.

VOTE: Bulge

I really don't get how this is not obvious to you guys

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Do you seriously believe that there's a Checker in this game for absolutely no reason?

We haven't killed a single mafia so how do you know the Checker is in the game for no reason?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I find it hilarious that's the conclusion you are getting from this

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

fuck it whatever

VOTE: shea i give up on life if this is wrong

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh wow you're so deep there was no way we would've known it was you

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gg thanks for modding!

We were so confused who the traitor was like literally the entire game :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Also I feel like having NM on your scumteam is cheating.

NM is definitely OP

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you are an extension of NM Ducky

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

>mafia thought my claim was trying to signal I was the traitor

bruh

I can't tell if I was lucky or unlucky with the role I got

yea NM really believed there was no way a day 4 IC existed lolol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it just felt weird that the game had 2 investigative roles that could "semi-find" us and the town only had to kill 2 scum to win.

On top of that the town had an IC that had 0 chance of being elim'd and a protective role that could keep the IC alive.

Our ascetic modifier didn't really do anything except make us findable to the checker?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it would have been interesting if you had protected outworldER though, since I had pretty much confirmed in my mind that you were town by the setup so we would have gone into the day with an IC and me thinking the scum team was gamma/pooky/the worst. We would have had to deal with the false clear on kasu though so we probably would have still lost.

no you wouldn't have needed to deal with Kasu at all - the setup said the mafia lost if the 2 ascetics died.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's worse than a goon

literally the scum team was worse than a team of 3 goons lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

we kept you alive because we thought you were our traitor <3

first in our hearts

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

but the traitor can't even endgame because it loses if the other 2 scum die so its irrelevant. :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that was NM actually lol

NM thought everyone was a traitor

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ouch that scum pt. phewwwww. this game was a once in a lifetime experience where the scums didn't really even have to try :/

we were really confused! =/

we spent a lot of time trying to figure out who the traitor was. We never suspected Kasu ~.~

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

we thought everybody was the traitor except Kasu :3

We r really not very good at the game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it was not for lack of trying ~,~;;

imagine how kasu felt when he found out we tried to murder him ^_^

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

in case we like kept shooting Kasu and Bulge kept protecting him

^_^