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JacksonVirgo · Post Post #11 (isolation #0) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:30 pm

Sup fam, it's ya uboi JacksonVirgo ready to spice this game up with an epic policy vote.

VOTE: shellyc

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:57 pm

In post 12, shellyc wrote:
In post 11, JacksonVirgo wrote:Sup fam, it's ya uboi JacksonVirgo ready to spice this game up with an epic policy vote.

VOTE: shellyc
policy vote = bad
fakeclaim = bad

andres/jackson/koba gg

Wrong and wrong. Ezpz

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #15 (isolation #2) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:58 pm

Also where did fake-claim come from?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #16 (isolation #3) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:58 pm

In post 14, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 13, JacksonVirgo wrote:Wrong and wrong. Ezpz
whats wrong

Policy voting

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #20 (isolation #4) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:01 pm

In post 18, shellyc wrote:
In post 15, JacksonVirgo wrote:Also where did fake-claim come from?
isnt daycop non normal or something
at least someone told me it wasnt

Ohh I see lmfao, I forgot they claimed day-cop.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #30 (isolation #5) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:11 pm

In post 24, shellyc wrote:i know

Tayl0r Swift is Aligned with the Mafia.

TMI uwu

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #35 (isolation #6) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:19 pm

In post 34, geraintm wrote:Hello all. I can do maths. 2+1+7+3=13

Is this a soft?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #162 (isolation #7) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:37 pm

In post 42, shellyc wrote:
In post 40, DkKoba wrote:
In post 21, shellyc wrote:
In post 19, Tayl0r Swift wrote:im pretty sure its normal because im a daycop
claiming early = anti-town

btw, JV said to policy me, but said policy voting is wrong, contradiction
Ok like definitely scum vibes from this slot LMFAO
I know your claim is obvfake, but the second line is serious

Bruh momento I said that you're wrong about polcy lynch = bad.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #163 (isolation #8) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:39 pm

In post 75, DkKoba wrote:
In post 72, Andresvmb wrote:I’m ignoring all of the claims, since they seem completely made up.

I will say this - from experience, concluding that shellyc is Town this early is a red flag to me. @DrippingGoofball have you played with Shelly before?
1 shot loyal neighborizer here

Okay?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #165 (isolation #9) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:40 pm

I'm informed that there's scum within Shelly, DKKoba and Infinity. Probably should out that rn

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #167 (isolation #10) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:44 pm

In post 166, DkKoba wrote:sounds fake and scummy considering whos in that set of 3

:c

Fine, it's not true

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #168 (isolation #11) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:44 pm

Lowkey just wanted to see how shelly reacted, but it's goners now

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #171 (isolation #12) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:46 pm

In post 169, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 165, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm informed that there's scum within Shelly, DKKoba and Infinity. Probably should out that rn

In post 165, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm informed that there's scum

In post 165, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm informed

I was fake-claiming to be an Informed [redacted] to gauge reactions. Also getting at shelly by saying fake-claim = bad.

I do it all the time on my home-site so much that my claim is never actually believed ever anymore lmfaoooo

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #174 (isolation #13) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:50 pm

In post 172, DkKoba wrote:
In post 171, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 169, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 165, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm informed that there's scum within Shelly, DKKoba and Infinity. Probably should out that rn

In post 165, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm informed that there's scum

In post 165, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm informed
I was fake-claiming to be an Informed [redacted] to gauge reactions. Also getting at shelly by saying fake-claim = bad.

I do it all the time on my home-site so much that my claim is never actually believed ever anymore lmfaoooo
the exact claim u made was a claim made in a special game where you needed to nominate town in order to win. if you nominate scum you lose automatically. so 1 mafia made a claim of informed of 1 mafia within 3, they got nommmed and insta won on the first nom lol.

(i also thought of this first.)

but why not fight me on calling it fake? why did u back down?

No idea to be completely honest. Also holy shit that's a genius claim in that situation lmfaoooo

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #177 (isolation #14) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:52 pm

I've gotta do some cleaning now be back soon fam

pedit: I did answer that

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #179 (isolation #15) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:55 pm

I already said I have no idea, maybe I got intimidated.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #185 (isolation #16) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:29 pm

In post 1, Glitch wrote:DAYTALK - is NOT allowed.
ytalk - is NOT allowed.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #186 (isolation #17) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:29 pm

OOfers that broke

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #191 (isolation #18) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:59 pm

In post 189, DkKoba wrote:oh i see.

Yeah scum doesn't have day-talk

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #199 (isolation #19) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:48 pm

Post

Post

Post

Home site where I'm known for fake-claiming. I was a named cit that game

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #204 (isolation #20) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:58 pm

In post 203, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 199, JacksonVirgo wrote:Post

Post

Post

Home site where I'm known for fake-claiming. I was a named cit that game
meta is trash

Shelly? Is that you?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #205 (isolation #21) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:58 pm

In post 200, DkKoba wrote:ToS :vomit:

Shush, it's where I started FM

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #252 (isolation #22) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:57 pm

Sorry not feeling the best

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #268 (isolation #23) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:44 pm

A big storms comin' to get me fam, probably won't post for a bit depends how long it lasts.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #275 (isolation #24) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:33 pm

In post 237, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 236, DkKoba wrote:vp if ur pocketing me im allowing it... for now.
I figure one of us is eating the NK tonight after we yeet a scum, so I'm leaving any Koba paranoia I have for later, in the rare circumstance that doesn't happen.

This is not a townie mindset at all

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #277 (isolation #25) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:35 pm

In post 276, shellyc wrote:
In post 275, JacksonVirgo wrote:This is not a townie mindset at all
JV do you like bussing

math calling VP town is ????????

That's a strange question, I used to bus all the time but I've realised that me doing that leads to me losing all the time so I stopped doing as much where I can help it, sometimes old habits die hard though.

Why's that?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #278 (isolation #26) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:36 pm

In post 214, DkKoba wrote:id KINDA like to be able to have an actual read on u sometime in the near future

This seems kinda LAMIST but not at the same time.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #279 (isolation #27) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:37 pm

In post 240, DrippingGoofball wrote:That's fine, we're eliminating you today to put you out of your misery.

This specifically makes me drop them to a SL/SR because only scum would benefit from having a locked lynch for the day.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #281 (isolation #28) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:39 pm

In post 267, DkKoba wrote:??? How lmfao

Discrediting

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #282 (isolation #29) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:39 pm

In post 270, DkKoba wrote:lol math frozen

Also discrediting

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #285 (isolation #30) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:40 pm

In post 280, shellyc wrote:
In post 277, JacksonVirgo wrote:That's a strange question, I used to bus all the time but I've realised that me doing that leads to me losing all the time so I stopped doing as much where I can help it, sometimes old habits die hard though.

Why's that?
237 is scumslippy from the pov of having a nightkill and you're good scum and know to distance there imo

but eh. im too paranoid about you JV.

Too lazy to search for that number so I'm linking it and responding afterwards 237

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #286 (isolation #31) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:42 pm

In post 280, shellyc wrote:
In post 277, JacksonVirgo wrote:That's a strange question, I used to bus all the time but I've realised that me doing that leads to me losing all the time so I stopped doing as much where I can help it, sometimes old habits die hard though.

Why's that?
237 is scumslippy from the pov of having a nightkill and you're good scum and know to distance there imo

but eh. im too paranoid about you JV.

So you're thinking that if I'm scum with them, they scum-slipped (I don't see how they scumslipped but it's scummy for sure) and I pointed that out to bus? Also don't be paranoid

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #289 (isolation #32) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:44 pm

In post 284, shellyc wrote:Why do you think the discrediting comes from scum

Koba is too engaged and proactive to be scum at all

I don't think I ever said that it came from scum, but you thinking that "they're too active to be scum" is a case you shouldn't ever be making as scum comes in all shapes and flavours.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #290 (isolation #33) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:45 pm

In post 288, shellyc wrote:237 like. assumes koba will get nightkilled and is thinking from the pov of having a nightkill

im thinking. JV you usually have a "wow" factor as town and i dont really get that yet

I think that post is just straight plain LAMIST and pocketing koba. Also I'm either into a game fully or I'm kinda eh until I'm feeling more into the game and right now I'm kinda in the latter, no offense to anyone of course.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #291 (isolation #34) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:52 pm

In post 275, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 237, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 236, DkKoba wrote:vp if ur pocketing me im allowing it... for now.
I figure one of us is eating the NK tonight after we yeet a scum, so I'm leaving any Koba paranoia I have for later, in the rare circumstance that doesn't happen.
This is not a townie mindset at all

The part where they're talking about eating the NK after they yeet a scum is them being incredibly confident that they're going to lynch scum D1, which is mathematically unlikely and Town hardly ever has that much confidence given Townies would know next to nothing outside of what their role is. Also the fact they're extremely confident that Koba or themselves is going to die at night, that means that they're incredibly confident that Koba is town and it's like scum is needing to pocket Koba but not push their full innocence as they might be a needed push later down the line and they don't want to put the full effort of having to develop a full ass 180 story.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #292 (isolation #35) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:53 pm

In extension I believe that if VP flips scum, Koba is probably clear.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #293 (isolation #36) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:53 pm

Also math is probably clear too

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #294 (isolation #37) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:54 pm

Shelly's tone is contrasting their scum tone from the large normal 229 and the mini normal bat game that just closed and I'm not sure if they can switch their meta up that good, otherwise they would have done so a lot earlier. Of course I think shelly and I will always have paranoia about the other lmfaoo

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #295 (isolation #38) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:57 pm

One thing that's pinging me is them WKing me a little bit but that's negligible and not a solid thing to read into. At least not for right now anyway.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #296 (isolation #39) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:01 pm

In post 248, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: jackson ill explain in a bit when i can type it up. I believe i hinted at this move earlier but i was hoping to see more info before i transitioned over

In post 262, DkKoba wrote:Has to do with the reaction to being called on their rxn test

Lackluster when they were insinuating they had a much bigger case on me when they don't.

(I thought I sent this)

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #300 (isolation #40) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:13 pm

In post 299, DkKoba wrote:where ur vote at jackson

I think it's on shelly from RVS

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #301 (isolation #41) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:14 pm

In post 297, DkKoba wrote:
In post 296, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 248, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: jackson ill explain in a bit when i can type it up. I believe i hinted at this move earlier but i was hoping to see more info before i transitioned over

In post 262, DkKoba wrote:Has to do with the reaction to being called on their rxn test

Lackluster when they were insinuating they had a much bigger case on me when they don't.

(I thought I sent this)
thanks for scum claiming with this post

Ha ha, now stop being an idiot thank

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #414 (isolation #42) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:20 pm

In post 302, DkKoba wrote:

Discrediting again

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #415 (isolation #43) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:20 pm

In post 306, shellyc wrote:
In post 289, JacksonVirgo wrote:I don't think I ever said that it came from scum, but you thinking that "they're too active to be scum" is a case you shouldn't ever be making as scum comes in all shapes and flavours.
activeness =! proactiveness
JV you're WKing me as well. lol.

oh and VP shading all the active slots is ++scumpoints

How am I WKing you

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #416 (isolation #44) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:21 pm

In post 349, DkKoba wrote:stop misrepping me thx

THis is cheap coming from you

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #417 (isolation #45) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:23 pm

In post 408, shellyc wrote:
In post 404, Tayl0r Swift wrote:well i blame random.org
You’re not even explaining your reasons to sr Jackson at all

r/whoosh

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #418 (isolation #46) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:24 pm

This game is literal cancer

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #420 (isolation #47) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:28 pm

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #423 (isolation #48) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:28 pm

In post 421, DkKoba wrote:jackson am i scummy or nah tho

Unsure, but I hate how you play.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #424 (isolation #49) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:29 pm

In post 422, DkKoba wrote:lol? u just lurking the thread and just sidelining?

What

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #427 (isolation #50) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:31 pm

In post 425, DkKoba wrote:
In post 423, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 421, DkKoba wrote:jackson am i scummy or nah tho
Unsure, but I hate how you play.
but am i scum or no?

Fuckin' read

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #428 (isolation #51) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:31 pm

In post 426, DkKoba wrote:not taking "unsure" as an answer. u keep shading me and i wanna see a concrete stance.

Hypocrite

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #442 (isolation #52) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:30 pm

In post 429, Infinity 324 wrote:Jackson do you have reads?

Yes.

Shelly/you town.
VP scum
Doesn't care: JV

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #448 (isolation #53) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:54 pm

In post 443, shellyc wrote:
In post 442, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 429, Infinity 324 wrote:Jackson do you have reads?
Yes.

Shelly/you town.
VP scum
Doesn't care: JV
Can you elaborate
WK attempt denied btw

Fuck off with the WK bullshit

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #456 (isolation #54) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:19 am

/reveal as IC

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #459 (isolation #55) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:01 am

Oh guess I gotta PM them then, brb

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #463 (isolation #56) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:07 am

My IC thing isn't real fyi

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #527 (isolation #57) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:54 pm

In post 468, shellyc wrote:
In post 463, JacksonVirgo wrote:My IC thing isn't real fyi
What was the reaction test even for?

Self-entertainment?

I just find it funny that I keep doing it when I am SR'd a little bit lol, that way when I am actually IC it shocks people lmfaooo

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #529 (isolation #58) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:58 pm

Inifinity gets good vibes my dudes, Tayl0r as well but to a lesser extent. VP I think is starting to get townie as well. Koba is just disgustingly scummy at this point, I thought it was how they played because nobody was calling it out but no more my dudes.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #533 (isolation #59) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:05 pm

In post 531, Infinity 324 wrote:I'd be pretty impressed if koba was scum here, why do you think so jackson

Keeping a top-town status is pretty easy when you into the game. So being a top-poster means shit all. Giving top content D1 means shit all as the only people that actually know shit is mafia and that way they can semi-easily just control town who would know next to nothing.

They've been constantly discrediting those who disagree with them, whether that be directly or by constantly

at everyone. I've started calling it out every time I see it

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #537 (isolation #60) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:11 pm

In post 536, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 533, JacksonVirgo wrote:They've been constantly discrediting those who disagree with them
I just played a town game with Koba where they went ALL OUT fighting people who disagreed. Gonna vouch that this is not scummy behavior for Koba.

Can you link a game so I can have a peeksies myself?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #539 (isolation #61) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:20 pm

In post 538, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 537, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 536, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 533, JacksonVirgo wrote:They've been constantly discrediting those who disagree with them
I just played a town game with Koba where they went ALL OUT fighting people who disagreed. Gonna vouch that this is not scummy behavior for Koba.
Can you link a game so I can have a peeksies myself?
Here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83882

Town Andres was in that game too. I was scum. It was fun and those two plus DGB were why I signed up for this game.

There is a difference between that game's tone and their tone here. Quite a big one regarding discrediting like I said. In that game they were confident in their own reads but in this game they are just straight up discrediting.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #540 (isolation #62) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:20 pm

I might also be biased, but I see a stark difference

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #542 (isolation #63) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:23 pm

In post 541, VP Baltar wrote:I question that you substantively read that game in 6 mins

I skimmed the first page and the second to last page. Approximating that's their D1 and their end-game to see if they evolved their tone by the end of the game.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #543 (isolation #64) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:23 pm

Of their ISO, not the actual game

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #547 (isolation #65) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:38 pm

In post 544, Infinity 324 wrote:Jackson I didn't read much of the game but I don't agree at all

Spoiler: discrediting in the other game
In post 326, DkKoba wrote:andres ignoring me .

not a good start

In post 368, DkKoba wrote:im not sheeping your reads bud I'm making my own.

but keep AtEing me it fuels my desire to make you see rope <3

In post 374, DkKoba wrote:i hope u stretched b4 your reach <3 . <3

i dont need to convince you that you are scum, i would rather not have my explainations be drowned out.

also, again, i was busy playing games with friends and now im tired asf around the time the so i just gave out what my conclusions from my analysis was.
im sorry u rolled mafia but thats just how it be bud.

In post 479, DkKoba wrote:how is janko null to you LOOOOOOOOOOL

and u want to shade my mafia skill here

In post 820, DkKoba wrote:
In post 799, NoPowerOverMe wrote:VP and Hell are definately scummy. DKK is not looking good but could be bad town.
Im playing 3d chess while ur playing checkers

In post 885, DkKoba wrote:i smell a bullshit copout to stay on the wagon and help it dissolve but aight

I don't think I'm very good at explaining myself, I saw that they were discrediting in that game but not in the same way as this game. That game they were more direct

Spoiler:

Do you not see the entire tonal change?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #548 (isolation #66) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:38 pm

Thought I already was
VOTE: DkKoba

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #549 (isolation #67) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:39 pm

Also they still haven't said shit about why I was scummy about the reaction test when they said they had a whole heckin' case on me

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #580 (isolation #68) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:31 pm

In post 557, DkKoba wrote:
In post 547, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 544, Infinity 324 wrote:Jackson I didn't read much of the game but I don't agree at all

Spoiler: discrediting in the other game
In post 326, DkKoba wrote:andres ignoring me .

not a good start

In post 368, DkKoba wrote:im not sheeping your reads bud I'm making my own.

but keep AtEing me it fuels my desire to make you see rope <3

In post 374, DkKoba wrote:i hope u stretched b4 your reach <3 . <3

i dont need to convince you that you are scum, i would rather not have my explainations be drowned out.

also, again, i was busy playing games with friends and now im tired asf around the time the so i just gave out what my conclusions from my analysis was.
im sorry u rolled mafia but thats just how it be bud.

In post 479, DkKoba wrote:how is janko null to you LOOOOOOOOOOL

and u want to shade my mafia skill here

In post 820, DkKoba wrote:
In post 799, NoPowerOverMe wrote:VP and Hell are definately scummy. DKK is not looking good but could be bad town.
Im playing 3d chess while ur playing checkers

In post 885, DkKoba wrote:i smell a bullshit copout to stay on the wagon and help it dissolve but aight
I don't think I'm very good at explaining myself, I saw that they were discrediting in that game but not in the same way as this game. That game they were more direct

Spoiler:
In post 175, DkKoba wrote:

In post 236, DkKoba wrote:vp if ur pocketing me im allowing it... for now.

In post 247, DkKoba wrote:Sesq confirned and didnt post? Lmfao

In post 248, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: jackson ill explain in a bit when i can type it up. I believe i hinted at this move earlier but i was hoping to see more info before i transitioned over

In post 260, DkKoba wrote:i want to vote in Jackson zdenek and math today

In post 262, DkKoba wrote:Has to do with the reaction to being called on their rxn test

In post 267, DkKoba wrote:??? How lmfao

In post 270, DkKoba wrote:lol math frozen

In post 299, DkKoba wrote:where ur vote at jackson

In post 302, DkKoba wrote:

In post 349, DkKoba wrote:stop misrepping me thx

In post 389, DkKoba wrote:lol what?

In post 392, DkKoba wrote:So?

In post 432, DkKoba wrote:god sometimes i wish they would

In post 434, DkKoba wrote:kinda vibing with this math vote but tempted to switch to jackson

Do you not see the entire tonal change?
wow sur fucking prise i speak differently among a different table idk what ur issue is
u think im just a 2d cutout ?

ur seriously hard reaching with this one

That isn't just minor changes, it's a whole tonal change.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #581 (isolation #69) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:32 pm

In post 559, shellyc wrote:Jackson, what is the difference between confidence and discrediting?

Koba what makes you think JV is not shading you as scum? I can 100% see this as scum bravado

Confidence is thinking you have the right reads
Discrediting is where you destroy someones rep so that nobody will listen to what people say.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #582 (isolation #70) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:33 pm

In post 560, shellyc wrote:
In post 533, JacksonVirgo wrote:Keeping a top-town status is pretty easy when you into the game. So being a top-poster means shit all. Giving top content D1 means shit all as the only people that actually know shit is mafia and that way they can semi-easily just control town who would know next to nothing.

They've been constantly discrediting those who disagree with them, whether that be directly or by constantly at everyone. I've started calling it out every time I see it
Posting is scum
Giving content is scum

this is a seriously wifomy take here

I didn't say that at all, the fuck.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #583 (isolation #71) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:34 pm

Koba: Scum always pushes me lol
Me: Pushes them
Koba: They must be dumb town, scum would never push me

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #584 (isolation #72) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:36 pm

In post 433, DkKoba wrote:pretty sure every scum in the past like 5 games or so has pushed on me and said im scum and attempted to push my ML so LOL

In post 556, DkKoba wrote:
In post 549, JacksonVirgo wrote:Also they still haven't said shit about why I was scummy about the reaction test when they said they had a whole heckin' case on me
holy fuck because clearly ur intentions were to not get scumread for fakeclaiming lmfao

i have a feelign ur just bad town because ur takes are just so astronomically bad i feel like as scum being informed u would never actually say things these bad.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #585 (isolation #73) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:36 pm

In post 576, DkKoba wrote:bc im a better player than u

Get your cockiness the fuck out of here pleb

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #586 (isolation #74) » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:37 pm

In post 579, DkKoba wrote:I work in complex ways >:)

Scum

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #594 (isolation #75) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:25 am

In post 590, shellyc wrote:
In post 581, JacksonVirgo wrote:Confidence is thinking you have the right reads
Discrediting is where you destroy someones rep so that nobody will listen to what people say.
I think I have a right SR on people and start pushing said person. Destroying reputation is a very similar thing to attacking someone?

No attacking someone isn't the same as destroying someones rep, at least from my definition of it. I think it's a very grey area though

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #595 (isolation #76) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:28 am

In post 593, geraintm wrote:
In post 592, shellyc wrote:
In post 589, geraintm wrote:I find it very difficult to read players on day 1 when all we have are a few votes. it is incredibly rare for someone to actually say something that is actually indicative of their alignment. so why waste so much effort on a fruitless chase?
if we all zero effort this the game will never be furthered. even the slightest push garners reactions.

I don't want to be professor of mafia but if we don't engage nothing will ever happen
well, we would move to night one and day 2 with one dead townie and a bunch of night actions from other players. that is a more interesting game state than right now

I understand where you're coming from but we should still try our hardest D1 as it's wasted utility otherwise.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #598 (isolation #77) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:40 am

In post 597, geraintm wrote:
In post 595, JacksonVirgo wrote: I understand where you're coming from but we should still try our hardest D1 as it's wasted utility otherwise.
is it though? like 99% of day 1s end in town getting lynched, I am all for no lynch day 1 and only losing one member of town.
or I'm happy to pick straws to see who is day 1 sacrifice. it will have a better chance of catching scum than actually voting.

Would you rather have a town lynched D1 or that exact same town getting lynched in LyLo.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #600 (isolation #78) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:22 am

In post 599, geraintm wrote:I'm not sure I understand the point of that question?

What I'm saying is that we shouldn't rely on possible Cops or anything because we're not promised them. We have no idea what PR's we have and thus we play accordingly.

If we do not remove one person now, they could end up being the one lynch that ends the game in a mafia victory. Slight exaggeration of course but I'm trying to make a point as to not waste D1. The way I see lynches, we aim to lynch scum but lynching a scummy town isn't that bad as it closes the poe. If we don't lynch we have a wider poe for the following day making it much easier for scum to hide amongst them.

If I'm making zero sense I'll try to reword

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #602 (isolation #79) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:42 am

For players: we encourage players to use alternate words such as eliminate as well, but we will not be policing the use. Game moderators are welcome to set up their own rules on the subject.

I am still allowed to use the word, it's just suggested that we don't and/or it's up to mod discretion.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #603 (isolation #80) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:43 am

@VP do you agree or disagree with what I said regarding 600

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #651 (isolation #81) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:38 pm

In post 607, DkKoba wrote:
In post 583, JacksonVirgo wrote:Koba: Scum always pushes me lol
Me: Pushes them
Koba: They must be dumb town, scum would never push me
Are you saying you're scum?

No I'm saying you're contradicting yourself

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #652 (isolation #82) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:39 pm

In post 619, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: taylor
i...just explained it.
Literally iso them and read them urself. Make ur own conclusions. I'll explain more if you tell me what u see.

'

(see I can do it too)

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #735 (isolation #83) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:04 pm

In post 653, DkKoba wrote:
In post 651, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 607, DkKoba wrote:
In post 583, JacksonVirgo wrote:Koba: Scum always pushes me lol
Me: Pushes them
Koba: They must be dumb town, scum would never push me
Are you saying you're scum?
No I'm saying you're contradicting yourself
Literally where

Literally read

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #736 (isolation #84) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:06 pm

In post 674, NDMath wrote:
In post 523, DkKoba wrote:Ok so whats ur analysis then
Can you clarify what this is referring to since I'm not sure?

In post 524, VP Baltar wrote:Math, what is your read on Andres and DGB?
The game I played with Andres he became obvtown day 2 on, and based off what other people are saying that's the norm for town!andre. So I'm not really concerned with sorting him today; I think he's townlean but am not confident / can't effectively argue it.

Nothing in DGB's iso really looks like it would be alignment indicative for them. (Have not played with her before though.)

My timing suddenly looks really bad lol.

Yes it really does look bad lmfaoo

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #737 (isolation #85) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:07 pm

In post 681, DkKoba wrote:lol oops is that hammer

No that's 4 votes

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #738 (isolation #86) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:07 pm

In post 689, DkKoba wrote:the fact ur defending math just solidifies it

In post 698, DkKoba wrote:u know what.
Math.
I'll give u a chance.
UNVOTE:
lets see what u have to say

This progression considering the way you've been acting all game so far is wack asf.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #739 (isolation #87) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:10 pm

In post 717, DkKoba wrote:math is scummy bc pee pee poo poo

In post 718, DkKoba wrote:mafia elim machine go brrr

Yeah I would appreciate to gank this, if not vig shot this thank

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #740 (isolation #88) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:11 pm

In post 734, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 733, Tayl0r Swift wrote:im not trying to be hurtful but i also dont tolerate bullies. you calling people dumb and saying that people shouldnt be listened to because youre better than them is frankly unacceptable, and if your reads are really that much better you can demonstrate it by simply being right and having reasoning people can see.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #741 (isolation #89) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:13 pm

Oh I have a quote from someone let me find it

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #742 (isolation #90) » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:16 pm

In post 6114, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Mafia isn't just about being right A50, but convincing others you're right.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #843 (isolation #91) » Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:51 pm

At work, I’m finish in like 2 hours and I get home in like an hour after that so expect me to yeet my sanity to oblivion by posting in this game I’m about 3 hours

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #859 (isolation #92) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:33 am

In post 858, Gamma Emerald wrote:This game looked pretty pleasant from an outside perspective so let’s see how it is to play it.

Hiii, I remember playing with you before but I forget where

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #861 (isolation #93) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:34 am

In post 860, Gamma Emerald wrote:I only remember Big Four Mafia

Eyyy, that's the one I believe.

I don't remember much of that game outside of me derping about not being a flavour cop when I was one.

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:15 pm

In post 870, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 863, Gamma Emerald wrote:Early townread for this mindset, as long as there’s a payoff
spoiler alert: theres yet to be a payoff

Yet another reason to yeet them off the planet

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:15 pm

In post 873, Not_Mafia wrote:Geraint is locktown

Can I ask why you think this?

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:17 pm

In post 884, Marky Mark wrote:Good evening all and Happy Birthday JV!

It's my scum-day, my birthday's the start of September but thank you!

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:18 pm

In post 899, DkKoba wrote:
In post 897, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: NM
I'll probably always be okay with yeeting him so I'll just park this here
i dont like this

Can you explain why, saying you don't like something means nothing.

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:19 pm

In post 924, Glitch wrote:
Flavor Leaf replaces NDMath. Welcome!

Oh epic, someone I know.

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:20 pm

In post 930, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 927, DkKoba wrote:hi flavor give me a good reason not to yeet u bc im like 95% sure ur slot is scum
probably scum trying to dictate the gamestate here on first glance ^

I haven't read the game.

Haha nice, perhaps we can finally just yeet DkKoba

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:23 pm

In post 953, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also, that's a possible traitor crumb

I keep forgetting traitors are normal

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:24 pm

In post 954, Tayl0r Swift wrote:yeah im not remotely shocked that theres scum in that list. it would be more helpful to know whether there was a chance of multiple scum. @JV does it say there could be more than one?

There is scum in that list, Koba is in there. Also I'm not actually informed, I retracted pretty quicko

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:27 pm

In post 977, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 171, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 169, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 165, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm informed that there's scum within Shelly, DKKoba and Infinity. Probably should out that rn

In post 165, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm informed that there's scum

In post 165, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm informed
I was fake-claiming to be an Informed [redacted] to gauge reactions. Also getting at shelly by saying fake-claim = bad.

I do it all the time on my home-site so much that my claim is never actually believed ever anymore lmfaoooo
What kind of playstyle is this even?!?!

Don't hate what you don't know. It works wonders when I'm confident that I can do them.

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:28 pm

In post 998, DkKoba wrote:i kinda tr flavor now and its kinda funny why but i dont know if i can explain it

Because you were pushing LHF like you were "on the lookout to catch"

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:29 pm

In post 1013, Flavor Leaf wrote:I'm ready to make a play, if only to spice things up.

VOTE: Jackson

Yeet koba after me if y'all choose this is all I ask

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:30 pm

In post 1038, Tayl0r Swift wrote:VOTE: jackson

You just said you TR'd me? Confuzzled I am

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:31 pm

In post 1042, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1038, Tayl0r Swift wrote:VOTE: jackson

WHY WOULD YOU HAMMER

Wait is that actually hammer, ffs. I thought I only had one vote on me before FL? But Andres also says they were on me so idk.

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:32 pm

In post 1043, DkKoba wrote:jackson is town. i certainly am not going out of my way to defend them. but we should not elim jackson imo

What the literal fuck, can this die? Thanks

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:32 pm

In post 1047, Flavor Leaf wrote:Nah, I'm trolling. I'd have been happy if it was a hammer, even if JV flips town.

Aight

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:34 pm

In post 1076, VP Baltar wrote:Now I'm less sure on Koba

'cuz they're scum bois

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:39 pm

Also, if you check my latest scum game. You can see how absolutely pushing I was against giving any actual information I gain as a scum role. So you thinking I would out actual results as a traitor is against my kind of playstyle.

JacksonVirgo · Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:39 pm

In post 1095, JacksonVirgo wrote:Also, if you check my latest scum game. You can see how absolutely pushing I was against giving any actual information I gain as a scum role. So you thinking I would out actual results as a traitor is against my kind of playstyle.

If you wish I can quote from the mafia PT

JacksonVirgo · Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:37 am

In post 1097, VP Baltar wrote:Jackson, you got anything to actually say outside of "Koba is scum! Koba is scum!"?

Being real, just seems like you're scum tunneling because you have nothing substantive to say about the game.

I've said my points

JacksonVirgo · Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:00 am

I do realise how I'm acting and how it's not helping the Town, this is just how I tend to act when I'm in many games. I keep overwhelming myself even though I know lmfao.

I'll reiterate my points

214 is LAMIST, and I've rarely ever seen that come from town iirc.

I've called them out on discrediting multiple times, I'll clarify here what I mean and why it's different from my skim of their other game. In that game, I saw very little small posts at all. And here they've got around a dozen which is solely there to destroy a persons view to others. In the other game there is some basis to things. Where here such as in 270, 302 (and the bajillion of the same posts) and then get upset when other's did it to them. They call out the most utter bullshit of bullshit to throw shade on them.

They've also not ever called out what they were saying they were going to in 248 and 262 and just pulled out of their ass that I was lurking the thread at one point which is baseless and they have no reason to think that at all outside of just wanting to throw literal shade at me without needing to make any case (even though they SAID THEY HAD ONE).

Them then TRing me out of literal nowhere when I started SRing them is complete fabrication, they even said that scum pushing them has been a scum-tell or whatnot iirc and when I do they literally do not reference me perhaps doing that at all and instead attacks my credibility by calling me just dumb town.

Also making the case that I didn't read their ISO in the other game is complete ass, it's blatantly obvious the tonal difference between the shading and if you disagree SHOW me how so I can actually see it instead of just watching me fall in a fuckin' tunnel.

I thought when FL started seeing them as scum I wasn't actually just being stupid but obviously they went "haha lulz they're traitor owo" which is just ugh. No matter what I do you all won't listen to me anyway so what's the point in even making this case when it's probably just going to be ignored by saying "haha lulz the triator leakded their mafia owo"

Solidifying my vote, even though I've already voted there because I am almost 100% going to stick here for the day.

VOTE: DkKoba

JacksonVirgo · Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:06 am

In post 1099, Andresvmb wrote:UNVOTE:

Yeah okay I don’t see the latest set of posts as coming from Scum.

Can I ask which posts and why, I don't want to get pocketed or have someone have an easy way off a wagon.

JacksonVirgo · Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:08 am

Don't compare me to that creep, thanks

JacksonVirgo · Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:09 am

Also another example of literal discrediting with no basis

JacksonVirgo · Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:11 am

Now that's plain misrepresenting me. Oh, just like you were super salty about other's doing to you. That's hypocrisy my friend

JacksonVirgo · Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:13 am

Last time I death tunneled someone like this they were scum and they switched to TR me as well, so I'm hedging my bets.

pedit: Being called that hits something personal in my past so I would like it if you do not compare me to them please okay? Thank you

JacksonVirgo · Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:14 am

I'm gonna give this game a break, please just don't compare me to them

JacksonVirgo · Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:15 am

I say this because I assume you know why they got banned

JacksonVirgo · Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:26 am

Thank you for being nice about that.

What do you mean by the same game? I am referencing the Bats game where before I replaced out I deathtunneled shelly and was right, I also got a lot of backlash from the town and shelly started TRing me just like you are and it's oddly similar which gives me some pause as if I am falling into confbias but aorn I am fairly confident in my read on you.

Do you get deathtunneled in every game? (if so oofers) and if not could you link me a few games where it happens, if you get deathtunneled as scum can you link that as well so I can compare.

I do indeed have reads of other people, but you are my strongest on either binary of reads. I feel Taylor, Gamma, Mark, FL and VP are fairly townie now, although VP gives me pause as their tone gives off an almost authority like vibe which makes me think they play good as scum. No idea why I made that association with that but that's just what the vibe I am getting is. FL being all SRing you for things but leading nowehere also gives me pause but I think that's just me thinking I'm getting my thoughts out in words better than I actually am.

I have a read on Andres but I'm waiting for them to reply to my question before outting that as it may sway what they say. I don't really have a read on Zdenek or Infinity tbh but the latter's tone seems townie from the top of my head.

N_M is always null to me and I always want to PL them, even if I don't say it. If I had to say someone that isn't you is scum it would be gerain but it's not as strong a read than you. Though I have to agree that deathtunneling you is almost certainly stopping me from actively reading anyone else with the same intent I'm reading you so I might drop my tunnel for a little bit to read others but that in no way means I don't read you any different unless I explicitly say so

JacksonVirgo · Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:27 am

In post 1113, DkKoba wrote:But pls understand its hard to fight a tunnel thats based in things that i have done as part of my solving process

I do understand why that would be hard, but tbh it's not like my fight is gaining any traction

JacksonVirgo · Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:36 am

No idea why, but that reminds me of my first real normal game where I replaced in, made a whole scum-case on an IC that was revealed SoD1 because I genuinely thought they were mafia, I get called out, I feel dumb, I claim PGO as a SK in a normal game where it doesn't roll, get lynched, lose.

Fun times

JacksonVirgo · Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:36 am

In post 1119, JacksonVirgo wrote:No idea why, but that reminds me of my first real normal game where I replaced in, made a whole scum-case on an IC that was revealed SoD1 because I genuinely thought they were mafia, I get called out, I feel dumb, I claim PGO as a SK in a normal game where it doesn't roll, get lynched, lose.

Fun times

Regarding Koba's last post

JacksonVirgo · Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:37 am

I swear, if I start backing off deathtunneling you and you are scum I will lose all pride I have as shelly made the exact same thing happen.

JacksonVirgo · Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:38 am

In post 1118, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1114, JacksonVirgo wrote:VP gives me pause as their tone gives off an almost authority like vibe which makes me think they play good as scum.
Registration and ID please.

This sort of feels like town on town, but Koba, I'd be interested in you responding to the broad strokes of Jackson's case if you will.

I left that all at home officer...

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:34 am

In post 1113, DkKoba wrote:But pls understand its hard to fight a tunnel thats
based in things that i have done as part of my solving process

Could you explain what you meant by the bolded? I was re-reading the talk we had

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:35 am

In post 1124, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1123, geraintm wrote:
In post 1032, DkKoba wrote:
In post 1030, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 1010, DkKoba wrote:im reformed i try not to get into 1v1 shitfights anymore bc it clouds my reads :/
you keep putting off this promised readlist
i do?
Yep, you've been called put on it numerous times
Lol we can still yeet this garbage folks

Could you make a case on them please? They're pretty scummy to me but not as much as another imo, but I can do a consolidation yeet if you can case them well enough.

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:37 am

In post 1127, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 1088, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1038, Tayl0r Swift wrote:VOTE: jackson
You just said you TR'd me? Confuzzled I am
this is not a townie reaction to being voted by someone who said they townread you.

Explain how this is not a townie reaction. You literally 180'd on me, which "is not a townie progression from voting someone who they said they were town-reading"

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:38 am

In post 1136, DkKoba wrote:that doesnt make sense but ok

Can I ask why that doesn't make sense to you, I don't personally

see

what they say but the basis of that makes a lot of sense.

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:40 am

In post 1144, DkKoba wrote:ok so i had this solve wrt your slot and math slot.

math!scum implied you!town.

im pretty sure u are scum otherwise.

flavor coming in and towntelling is leaning me on u being scum.

your engagement once flavor came in also at the same time felt fake and "participatory" i.e. u were just trying to look like u were there.

That's a super fluffy way to say you read them and math as a TvS

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:41 am

In post 1152, Zdenek wrote:
In post 804, Andresvmb wrote:I don’t really care for your description of my progression on Koba
Could you explain it?

In post 1153, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 1151, Zdenek wrote:Around page 28, I think that Taylor is scum telling us Math is town.
could you explain it?

dejavu

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:42 am

In post 1158, Tayl0r Swift wrote:dgb you remind me a lot of yourself in the trials where you just sheeped popular views and nudged the most consensus incorrect reads. (dgb and i were scum together there). we were quite effective.

In post 1160, DrippingGoofball wrote:Meta really is rubbish.

Not a big fan of this interaction, I think there would be at least one scum in the pair. Or at least aorn I would say there would be

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:43 am

In post 1179, Tayl0r Swift wrote:we can do better than gerain, especially since gerain should be come more sortable on later days.

How would you ever know they'll be more sortable than anyone else.

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:45 am

In post 1181, VP Baltar wrote:This day also has too many pages already (yes, I'm old).

I see this a lot from more experienced players and it baffles me ngl, because all I can remember is this type of speed game (or even faster sometimes) and it feels normal to me. I just like thinking about the experience differences as I think it's super cool

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:45 am

In post 1182, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1174, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1172, Infinity 324 wrote:UNVOTE:
No.

Sorry, but FL has definitely not shaken Math's scuminess just yet. FL is clearly a better player and needs to catch up before we just move on from this wagon.
Spicy

I don't like this response, but considering VP's response I think it's normal for them? I feel this is a cheap ass way to respond to a post that's saying that FL is still scummy or whatnot.

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:47 am

In post 1184, geraintm wrote:
In post 1179, Tayl0r Swift wrote:we can do better than gerain, especially since gerain should be come more sortable on later days.
I'll just chip in that id rather not die today. But I don't mind being run up for a while until people decide to vote someone else off.
Putting pressure on me isn't going to alter my posts today for what it is worth. You aren't going to generate a reaction from me.
But if you want to see how others react, be my guest.

You could not have been possibly a single bit more conspicuous, I hope I am wrong though.

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:50 am

In post 1185, Marky Mark wrote:DGB has made it clear she doesn't believe in meta, so I find her TRing N_M on the basis of being soulmasons (ie relationship outside of the immediate game) a bit off.

I'd have to agree on this but didn't know how to word it properly, it's like saying they hate meta but then use meta.

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:51 am

In post 1185, Marky Mark wrote:... but she herself voted Geraint a couple of pages earlier, which is a wagon based on very similar principles (ie pressuring an inactive & hard to read player)

That whole "on lookout for lhf" thing is just plain contradicting everything, as I remember calling out in my wall on them.

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:52 am

In post 1186, Marky Mark wrote:-1094 where FL claims to be a 2-Shot doc -> I'm presuming you aren't actually claiming here but that it's some sort of in-joke?

I think it was mocking me for when I said that I fake-claim as town on my home-site

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:53 am

In post 1186, Marky Mark wrote:-I feel like FL is reading way too much into the fake informed claim, but NAI

This is cheap for me to say but they are, but they also said that they've been put in a bunch of traitor games or something so that's set in their mind aorn. I'm not sure of the validity of that but that's what they said iirc.

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:54 am

In post 1205, Marky Mark wrote:
In post 1203, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1185, Marky Mark wrote:... but she herself voted Geraint a couple of pages earlier, which is a wagon based on very similar principles (ie pressuring an inactive & hard to read player)
That whole "on lookout for lhf" thing is just plain contradicting everything, as I remember calling out in my wall on them.
As a side note, I'm presuming LHF is "Low, Hard, Fast" ?

Yeah exactly, definitely not what most people call "Low hanging fruit", those people are trying to give misinformation!!!

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:55 am

In post 1196, Marky Mark wrote:Scummy:
DK

( :O I'm not alone!)

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:55 am

In post 1200, Marky Mark wrote:No idea how my previous post got posted twice - apologies

It happens a lot more than I would like it to, mostly when I'm on mobile I think.

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:57 am

In post 1200, Marky Mark wrote:cross-posted with this -> having looked at a couple of their games, it seems like they were somewhat more engaged on later days, but I agree that it would be good to have a plan in mind for what we are going to do about geraint/N_M as a town, especially if they do not kick into gear later on

Yeah okay, yeeting them later down the line after they've been useless would probably be better than wasting them D1 before they open up if that's how they usually play.

JacksonVirgo · Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:57 am

I found a much easier way to respond to larger posts thanks to shellyc lmfaoooo

JacksonVirgo · Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:11 am

Flash wagon lessgoooooooooooo

JacksonVirgo · Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:12 am

Hard-claiming masonry with FL

JacksonVirgo · Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:15 am

In post 1279, DkKoba wrote:
In post 1268, Infinity 324 wrote:VP townread is largely tone
tone is alignment indicative

This is a pointless post, what did you mean by this?

JacksonVirgo · Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:41 am

In post 1571, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yo I’m already veering on the side of I feel like I’m gonna get night killed, don’t give em more reason.

Supposed to claim that Day 3.

After Dkk flips red, All docs on me

Oh, sorry... I thought you told me to

JacksonVirgo · Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:46 am

Oh I misread

JacksonVirgo · Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:48 am

In post 1525, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1516, DkKoba wrote:
In post 1506, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1502, Tayl0r Swift wrote:what did you notice in the last few pages that was different?
You’ve been engaging people and pressuring who you think is scum. Honestly I hadn’t seen much scumhunting from you until the last few pages, mostly just saying reads.
Are you coaching them in scum chat rn?
Why do you keep saying this when you know Scum don’t have Day Talk?

Honestly? I think they're trying to derp-clear themself

JacksonVirgo · Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:21 am

Woah there, I'm not actually a mason

I didn't expect anyone to actually believe me

JacksonVirgo · Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:21 am

Sorry dudes

JacksonVirgo · Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:10 am

In post 1582, geraintm wrote:
In post 1580, JacksonVirgo wrote:Woah there, I'm not actually a mason

I didn't expect anyone to actually believe me
Oh, FFS...

In post 589, geraintm wrote:
In post 463, JacksonVirgo wrote:My IC thing isn't real fyi
why you do it then?
I hate townies confusing the game state. please don't do it to me

I thought it was obvious, but I agree with VP why did that make you vote? Just because I would be confirmed town with FL in that scenario, that shouldn't sway your reads except off of myself or FL

JacksonVirgo · Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:47 pm

Going VLA because I’m in hospital for health reasons and I’m not sure how long I will be here so for 48 hours?

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:20 am

In post 1953, Flavor Leaf wrote:Tinfoil, maybe not so tinfoil:

Gera is messaging out to one of his buddies in that last post because a scum is bussing.

DGB/Gera?

Could you explain this further?

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:20 am

In post 1950, DkKoba wrote:sp ur jksut gonna park ur vote ne me??????????????

Yes I am, scum

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:39 am

In post 1957, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1952, geraintm wrote:(there is no way scum will let one of their own go today)
This looks like he’s trying to tell his partners to not let him go down today. Scum don’t have daytalk, right?

I completely forgot that they don’t, that’s possibly a good catch

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:21 am

In post 1960, geraintm wrote:Unless every wagon is scum right now,

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:22 am

Did they just TMI since they’re one of the larger wagons and didn’t assume that scum was on them for not being on their buddy?

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:54 am

In post 1963, Flavor Leaf wrote:I read the rules, unlike most players. And while I often forget, or second guess myself, it's always in the back of my mind that scum don't have daytalk, but there are momentary lapses in that knowledge.

I'm pretty sure it's been brought up multiple times that scum don't have daytalk recently.

I’m the one that initially called it out iirc

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:37 am

Id like FL to answer Taylor’s question

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:35 pm

In post 2017, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1982, Infinity 324 wrote:Nah I think you're being towny
Wait! Did I misunderstand your previous post?

Yeah it was quite obviously a joke about how townie they are

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:35 pm

2020 bois

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:39 pm

Schadd designed this game and iirc they don’t like Traitors so this is almost 100% a >4 scum game

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:41 pm

I think I actually caught them with that slip earlier

Consider this intent to hammer, I won’t just yet so they can claim and I can read that of which I haven’t yet yada yada

If this flips red, it’s likely that at least one of the top wagons is also scum. Possibly both

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:42 pm

Wait NM is alive they’ll hammer watch

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:43 pm

Lmfaooo

Also I do agree but a claim from gera and their flip seems to be the way to go

I 100% prefer DK to be yeeted but this is second best imo

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:44 pm

In post 2030, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2022, JacksonVirgo wrote:Schadd designed this game and iirc they don’t like Traitors so this is almost 100% a >4 scum game
You mean <4?? LESS than four. The rules say "at least 2" which would be a really weak town (PRs wise) vs 2 very string scum PRs. Most common distribution is 10-3. 4 scums sounds a bit too much (even if all Goons, because it takes only 2 miselims to get to E-Lo)

Yeah I mean less than 4, as in no traitors

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:44 pm

Why unvote there if your intent is to revote

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:45 pm

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:46 pm

No you’re not dead yet you got pushed to L1 and now at L2 if infinity was voting you, please claim

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:47 pm

I do think Koba is more likely to be mafia than gerain personally but I think they both are together

Just claim and we will sort from there, not claiming as town is throwing

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:48 pm

I literally do not care if you think youll be yeeted anyway, not claiming as town is throwing and thus will be treated as a scum claim to me

If you’re PR claim and we will unvote and sort you later

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:51 pm

It’s called a consolidation vote and I SR you both so that post is just plain wrong

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:52 pm

I’m likely going to hammer if Nm doesn’t and if nobody switches to DK

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:53 pm

Also I think I’m being discharged in a small bit so that’s fun

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:56 pm

In post 2053, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2051, JacksonVirgo wrote:Also I think I’m being discharged in a small bit so that’s fun
You're playing from the hospital! Hardcore.

(Glad you are recovering)

Scum hunting never rests!!!

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:38 pm

In post 2064, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2025, JacksonVirgo wrote:I think I actually caught them with that slip earlier

Consider this intent to hammer, I won’t just yet so they can claim and I can read that of which I haven’t yet yada yada

If this flips red, it’s likely that at least one of the top wagons is also scum. Possibly both
What is this slip you speak of

Where they said “what if all scum wagons are scum” which TMIs them self as being scum at the minimum and highly possible one or multiple of their buddies too

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:40 pm

In post 2083, DkKoba wrote:id rather not get gera but he's useless asf so its whatever.

maybe ppl will listen to me when he flips town ((((((((((:

I hate this so bad

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:52 pm

Fuck man, I had a whole plan to try and get scum!them to claim PR so VT claim would be a town-tell but they just threw if town

Shoot DK

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:11 pm

In post 2102, geraintm wrote:
In post 2101, JacksonVirgo wrote:Fuck man, I had a whole plan to try and get scum!them to claim PR so VT claim would be a town-tell but they just threw if town

Shoot DK
I have no idea what this means. but if you did have some fantastic plan that involved me I really am not the player to try it on. I am very surface level.

I was pushing you, and giving scum!you a clear way to get off a lynch if you claimed PR. If you claimed VT even after that, you were almost certainly town to me unless that small thing where you saw through what I was doing.

This post in particular

Spoiler:

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:13 pm

In other words, I was less confident you were scum than DK but more confident you were scum than everybody else (outside DK). DK wagon wasn't happening so I did my best to try to possibly solve you via that so if you did claim VT I would say why you were >rand town and then yeet DK.

That was my plan anyway, failed because you never claimed..

JacksonVirgo · Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:13 pm

In post 2103, geraintm wrote:and no one should be going into day 2 knowing who they want to kill. there is going to be some extra info from power roles to guide the conversation better than just the mess of votes on and off my wagon

What do you mean by this?

JacksonVirgo · Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:15 am

In post 2107, geraintm wrote:
In post 2104, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2102, geraintm wrote:
In post 2101, JacksonVirgo wrote:Fuck man, I had a whole plan to try and get scum!them to claim PR so VT claim would be a town-tell but they just threw if town

Shoot DK
I have no idea what this means. but if you did have some fantastic plan that involved me I really am not the player to try it on. I am very surface level.
I was pushing you, and giving scum!you a clear way to get off a lynch if you claimed PR. If you claimed VT even after that, you were almost certainly town to me unless that small thing where you saw through what I was doing.

This post in particular

Spoiler:
In post 2044, JacksonVirgo wrote:I literally do not care if you think youll be yeeted anyway, not claiming as town is throwing and thus will be treated as a scum claim to me

If you’re PR claim and we will unvote and sort you later
after me saying I wasn't going to claim, you would have then been happy if I had come out with a claim?
to be honest, I thought I had hinted strongly that I was vanilla townie when I said "I have zero additional info than what is in this thread"

It's day 1, any role except Neighbour/Mason/Informed would know anything

JacksonVirgo · Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:25 pm

In post 2128, Infinity 324 wrote:Depends when she retracts it. I’m confused what’s going on but scum wouldn’t fake a result on me here.

I do TL you but this is just gross

JacksonVirgo · Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:25 pm

In post 2129, Almost50 wrote:True. UNLESS.. the VERY UNLIKELY is actually true, and this setup is 9v4 >> 7v4 now, in which case a miselimination already takes us into ELo, so I guess it's worth the punt to try and get that miselim at the expense of outing one of them.

ON THE OTHER HAND, I am not quote sure YOU are Town either still, so I dunno what to believe and I do need DGB back in to either confirm or deny the result.

Schadd, the one who designed the setup, is against Traitors and the like so it's 3 mafia most likely

JacksonVirgo · Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:26 pm

In post 2143, Infinity 324 wrote:Ok well

I’m a detective (targets someone and learns whether they’ve ever attempted an NK), I targeted flavor leaf last night and he didn’t kill anyone

I targeted flavor leaf because he wasn’t very suspected and likely to perform a kill if scum, plus I was afraid of the flavor scum game

Interesting

VOTE: DkKoba

JacksonVirgo · Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:27 pm

In post 2150, DkKoba wrote:u are so fucking bad taylor if u are town here like really terrible. grudge tunnels are not a good look

Discrediting for disagreeing with them

JacksonVirgo · Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:29 pm

In post 2187, Infinity 324 wrote:It's wine, but I didn't think scum would send a low-activity slot to do the kill

Yeah I think this is Town, also does a Detective show as a positive to a gunsmith?

JacksonVirgo · Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:31 pm

In post 2202, VP Baltar wrote:Clown town case, honk honk.

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I honestly need to do some thinking and rereading of gamma.

I don't like this reaction to it, it's like discrediting Infinty only to just yeet right back and change topic.

JacksonVirgo · Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:55 pm

Ah Nandor was the Cop? I was wrong, sad

JacksonVirgo · Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:56 pm

Wrong place ignore me

JacksonVirgo · Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:46 pm

In post 2214, DkKoba wrote:im asking the people who are purely basing their case on me based on that

This is just plain misrepresenting me if this was aimed at me, as a lot of my case wasn't even just the discrediting alone.

JacksonVirgo · Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:46 pm

In post 2232, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2195, Infinity 324 wrote:DGB’s reaction test feels towny

VOTE: VP baltar
I hate the word "feels" so much I do NOT subscribe to it AT ALL.

Let's talk FACTS and logic. Why OUT a TPR? Why even RISK outing one so early? DGB isn't a noob, you know. She's a veteran, and she knew all along a CC was more likely than not.

Now lt's assume she
is
a Mason as she claims. That was extremely a selfish move still. Scum now have the option to shoot her or you (or maybe her Mason buddy if they can deduce that) and that's ASSUMING she is a Mason indeed. How's a protective supposed to decide whom to protect?

Yeah I think this is Town

JacksonVirgo · Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:22 pm

I trust that

claim

, I've assumed that a role like that would exist since day-talk is not enabled. They are still just as likely scum

JacksonVirgo · Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:30 pm

In post 2347, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 2343, JacksonVirgo wrote:I trust that
claim
, I've assumed that a role like that would exist since day-talk is not enabled. They are still just as likely scum
why does the lack of daytalk mean a role like that is likely? its not like koba can message during the day is it?

I was doing a bit of setup speculation right off day-start so I was assuming any type of communication type of role is going to be in this setup whether that be Masons,Neighbours,Neighbourizers,Mailman maybe also an Encryptor because of the lack of day-talk and since day-talk is commonplace now it had to be for a reason.

This does not make Koba more or less likely to be Town, I just feel like the claim itself is likely true. Could also be confbias

JacksonVirgo · Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:35 pm

DkKoba did you specifically claim you have the Simple modifier or was that a kind of wording thing when you claimed.