Mini Normal 2160 | FIA Group B | Endgame

[innocentvillager]

this is gonna sound kind of bad but... i don't remember

[innocentvillager]

i know part of the reason was because i think town!you is likely to be right on lilith but i think there was another reason i can't remember

[innocentvillager]

sorry I’ll get to this, skimmed a bit in a weird order

looks like lilith weighed in and worsty/Lilith are team kill-una-on-his-birthday

[innocentvillager]

i haven't read through all of worstys walls but yeah down to elim una, not much more to be said, im more worried about f3 at this point

[innocentvillager]

actually doesn’t it imply that he knows the game isn’t over with una’s death, if he’s more worried about f3 than, you know, the LYLO that we’re currently in????

yes it does? what’s your point

if worsty is scum we lose anyway

[innocentvillager]

I don’t need to read all of worstys walls to decide hes town?

[innocentvillager]

I had mostly decided already and the tone/AtE/casing/effort pushed it over the top. Una is obviously today’s elim

[innocentvillager]

so what you’re saying is billy is the last scum

pedit: una is scum because of the ridiculous hammer and it seems like worsty agrees, who is obvtown, and if he’s obvtown una is scum. I feel like this is one of the most obvious reads ever and if we’re wrong then I will quit this site like for another 4 years

[innocentvillager]

yeah I buy it. billy is scum I guess. this is gonna suck

[innocentvillager]

yeah the world isn’t exactly saved yet. I feel like I’m going to be the elim in f3 and I don’t know if there’s anything I can do to stop it. I wish I had your charisma and ability to just shit out decent reasoning and logic

I’m not sure on the “exact spot” because I’ve been in catch up mode so read stuff in a weird order. ive townread you for a long time with on and off paranoia and only townread una really on the mechanics and glossed over most of his walls. Once that’s gone the main thing that stuck out was his hammer and shouting solve of us. The start of your AtE train was incredibly towny, I do believe you blew your scumrange and your desperation in your posts. Sorry if you don’t like me townreading you for emotions, you’re doing the same thing with Lilith so, I guess not actually sorry. You have like a page of walls that were reasonably convincing for the first ones I read

[innocentvillager]

there was no point voting that early in the day. I thought he was scum early on like I said

[innocentvillager]

I was floored because it felt like you were expecting me to like vote right then and there. What is wrong with me wanting the whole gamestates opinion and letting the day play out more...?

[innocentvillager]

are you saying I didn’t push the hammer? Or I didn’t push it enough? I brought it up like 3 times

[innocentvillager]

I’ve been doing some thinking and bp is just town

he just is

no I will not explain

[innocentvillager]

I feel like this is the same question as “when did I realize you were town” which I always answered

[innocentvillager]

*Already

[innocentvillager]

I was floored because it felt like you were expecting me to like vote right then and there. What is wrong with me wanting the whole gamestates opinion and letting the day play out more...?

worsty I’m so confused I just answered it here but you quoted this and said I didn’t

I thought una was probably scum then which I said. Voting there might’ve ended the day prematurely. I wanted to see how things played out more. You don’t just vote whenever you think someone is scum in lylo. Am I dumb because I literally have no idea why you’re suspicious of this

[innocentvillager]

una/worsty Probably not
worsty/Lilith
Lilith/una
Lilith/BP unlikely (?)
Bp/una
Bp/worsty

assumes four is town

I’ll fill in the blanks when I have time, think if four is town the team is one of these 4

Okay here’s my amazing readslist for this amazing gamestate

{innocentvillager}
{Not Mafia}
{Lilith, worsty, una, bp, four}

and here are your only mentions of billy during D4, in which you're explicitly not townreading him

I townread everyone. I get it my reads are bad

[innocentvillager]

regardless of how clueless he is, is IV always aware of the una/tw thing?

If we flip Ducky, and Ducky is town, then surely IV is town as well..right?
In that scenario, scum will likely kill me during the night and there's actually 2 scum within MWNN/N_M/lilith/Billy.
And in that case, I'd almost want to beg beforehand that town will not let IV be lynched no matter what.

In the scenario where Ducky just flips scum today, and IV doesn't wave the white flag during the night..kill it with fire.

just a reminder i want this post nailed to my coffin

this almost feels like a hedge to frame me when I flip scum if there was some agenda other than just posturing here

[innocentvillager]

can you like, use words

[innocentvillager]

una’s 5007. If you think you decided to write that before flipping worsty to set up me as a clear instead of AFTER flipping worsty when the scum!agenda is obvious then I don’t know how to help you.

[innocentvillager]

I mean “if you think he” not “you”

Sorry clearly I am not explaining myself well on mobile and my argument is not getting across

[innocentvillager]

GG everyone!! A very well deserved town win. Town was like super obvtown (I thought, with my hindsight informed mafia brain) which made it so hard to blend in. A few thoughts from me:

-worsty, Lilith, billy, nice job with the final solve worsty please never roll opposite alignment with me ever again D:
-zombie/elements keep being chill man. Thanks for the carry and support, was very appreciated
-Plus, thanks for going down swinging in your first scumgame you did great in your bad spot!
-Titus thanks for the replace in and doing what you could in my tough spot. You went down swinging when I never could
-UNNNAAA. This guy carried me SO hard. Like, unbelievably hard. It was obvious in thread and in PT (which I’ll... uh... grudgingly agree to release with no redactions... oh god what am I doing by letting the world see my PT ranting) that Una was always there pouring his heart into the game and constantly coming up with juicy bullshit. Literally like, had to console and keep me motivated every like 5 RL days when I had another PT breakdown like a 10 year old. In f5 you knew you were going down but fought anyway to try and put my slot in as good of a position as possible. Una I’m sorry for putting you in that position and I do feel really bad about replacing out. Nothing like, excuses that, but I think you at least deserve an explanation

On replacing out
-I think like, mafia in general but this game in particular was like, particularly taxing. I wanted to replace out like, multiple times during the game (again, thanks to Una and Zombie for keeping me going). This is my first game like, past 100 pages (220+, lmao) in a really tough plist so it was very out of my depth, AND I had to roll scum, my least favorite alignment. Fwiw this is still like, by far my best scumgame on this site despite it ending in a replace out and a loss, and I’m like, reasonably happy of being able to not die before 200pg/D5. It was kind of an emotional rollercoaster which is like, normally fun? But it was frequently at the back of my mind when i needed to be productive IRL and it went on for like, a long time, and I had other games on top of that. I kind of hit a tipping point in f5 where our situation suddenly went from “maybe win” to “pretty hopeless” and heavy foses were raining down, everyone was just so obvtown, and RL hit a point where I was clearly spending not enough time/focus on RL and more on my games.
-I think this game and Mini Normal 2163 (where I was town and selfvoted D1) suggest that I need to like, take these games more chill and only play one at a time. Also I realized that I’m a lot more fragile when I’m the wagon/getting heavily fosed than I thought I would be.

So, hopefully I’ll still see some of you guys down the road in other games, when I have more of my shit figured out but I had fun nonetheless. Thanks

[innocentvillager]

@osuka thanks for modding too and for the support!