Open 87 - Baby Too Much Scum - Over before 641

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I am alvinz95's replacement. Rereading sometime today.

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I personally think that the early posts of Goatrevolt were just an attempt to get the game going. Crazy said this as well, and I have to agree with it.

Crazy’s unvote after being called out by Goatrevolt is DEFINITELY suspicious.

Also, farside22, I’m not alvinz anymore.

FoS: Crazy

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At least Oman did have an explanation that made sense. I don't agree with his "anecdotal scumtell at all," but at least he had more reasoning for his vote than GR gave him credit for.

Your definition of reasoning is pretty loose.

This is definitely a Crazy thing.

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meta comment. Except I must not tell you where. Must keep mouth shut.

I will have limited access from August 1st to August 15th. Some days I know I wont have access, some days I will, and somedays I'm not quite sure yet. Here is a tentative schedule:

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Yellow

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Green

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August 1st

August 2nd

August 3rd

August 4th-August 8th

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I didn't really find much to comment on, except the argument between Goatrevolt/Oman, which I didn't find that interesting. If one of htem had to be scum, it'd probably be Goatrevolt.

I find it weird how Goatrevolt wants an analysis when he knows he's likely to be the focus of it, based on the current pages.

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@armlx and Goatrevolt: What I'm trying to say is that Goatrevolt is under plenty of suspicion now, and he is trying to get more people to focus upon him?

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OK, I guess I was incorrect about the Goatrevolt thing. I did find it strange though that he wanted opinions, maybe like he was trying to get people to side with him?

As Mencellator says an SK would want to turn everyone against each other, so would scum. So saying that OGML could be the SK suggests that Mencellator knows something...

I think I can actually agree with Crazy here.

I'm not quite sure I remember switching my vote to Netran/Mencellator.

unvote

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We need to leave fair time for counterclaims on FBI Agents. Scum fakeclaiming would be really bad.

I'll catch up on what I missed ASAP.

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sorry, will cathc up on this when I find suitable time. This has happened in many of my games and I'm bogged down.

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Brief read #1

Two of the three votes on me (OMGL) were for him lurking. As he disappeared, and was replaced, that leaves me with one vote for a reason other than lurking.

Crazy's vote.

Now I need to try to figure out why OMGL voted the way he did.

Time for further reading.

Grimmy
will update as he goes.

The bolded line seems really fishy to me.

So, Grimmy, is what you are saying that you think Oman + Goat = Mafia and Crazy = SK, or do you think there is another reasoning for the distancing argument?

I doubt Grimmy was trying to portray this here, and it seems like you want someone to find all three in just one big clump, which would be nice, but it isn't possible.

Keeping my vote on Grimmy won't do any good. He can't explain for OGML.

And what's wrong with FoSing people? I'll vote for one of them if you like;

it doesn't really make a difference to me.[/

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Bold is suspicious. Especially whne armlx just called you out for little reasoning.

I completely disagree with almost the entirety of what Grimmy said. I would say this game is not at all going to play out like town v. town. The town wants to lynch scum, the SK and mafia both do not care who gets lynched as long as it's not them. Those are two completely different motivations for actions and thus we will be still be able to determine who is scum based on their actions. Is the scum going to try to blend in as town, of course. It's the same as any other mafia game. Trying to paint this game as a completely different form of mafia and then use it as a basis to toss suspicion around is enough for me to

FoS Grimmy

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I'm still happy with my vote on Iamusername, and would also

support switching to Sktizer if others wanted to go that way

. Grimmy/OGML as of yet hasn't said enough for me to be willing to lynch him.

If you are a townie, than you should be thinking independently in addition to hearing others out.

What makes my vote look like self-preservation? Why wouldn't I be interested in self-preservation, as a town player?

Self preservation is #2 to townies compared to finding scum. I'm not seeing finding scum reasoning behind your vote, so it must be #2. And self preservation happens to be the #1 scum priority....

QFT. Eventhough iamusername is dead, it's still a rule of townieness.

The hypo claim is fine, except for one thing, if the Agent investigated iamusername.

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I checked goat and he's pretty innocent.

armlx, I choose you!

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not the fbi agent, but I want to vote Crazy. I heard she had heaps of links with armlx.

Waiting for goat and mence to discuss.

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If you are the FBI agent, then of course I wouldn't vote you...

I'm just saying if you arent.

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I'm thinking Grimmy is the mafia.

[/b]Vote: Crazy[/b]

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Vote: Crazy

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Hmmm...I personally think If I were armlx's buddy we would talk...

But you make a convincing point about grimmy. Which leaves Mence.

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What I mean by that is that if me and armlx were ever scum together, we would be the type that didn't distance.

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/proddage

My suspect list.

1. Mencellator
2. Grimmy
3. Goatrevolt...well I have to put him somewhere.

Grimmy...how can GR be guilty with an unCCed FBI Agent claim? That is why you are number 2 on my list...lol.

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I will get solid reasons out as soon as possible.

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I am interested in continuing, I've been trying to find time to get a case, but if you want to lynch me to get the game moving whatever.

I'll try to formulate a case today.

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I don't know If I can find a decent way to get back into this game...I'm going to place a vote from memory,

Vote: Mencellator

because it's not me and my vote isn't doing any better idle. I feel Mencellator's early play just wasn't there, but Grimmy's recent play has me thinking differently.

Maybe if Goat and Mence posted more I could get back in this.

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Hooves, Grimmy, hooves.

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Yes!

Hooray.

I have one choice left, so Im going for it.

Vote: Skitzer

and im wishing the mafia had NK's or I would have won this game by now.

Grimmy
last chance to win this one.

fix'd...

Vote: Grimmy

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You know what the hardest thing is? knowing who's scum and you can't think of any way to make the person believe.

Do you play EpicMafia? If not, here's my rule for when I play: The less scummy person is ALWAYS Mafia. Never make the "smart" decision, it always fails.

That's my case, and it made me sound scummier, but I'm puttin' it all out on the line.

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Sorry. I really failed this game. If I hadn't been in so many other game crunches, I could have made myself more townlike and formed cases against Grimmy and Mencellator.