Note: the above is not scum behaviour, it is evil overlord behaviour. The aim of the game is to lynch scum, *not* the evil overlord.
But I'm getting a pretty scummy vibe from goberage...
I love day 1...
I agree. The "panicked mafia" comment did feel a bit false. But let's look at his behaviour, really - does he seem like a townie joking around on the first day? No. He seems more like scum thinking too much into the game and how to defend himself when it wasn't really warranted.clammy wrote:I agree not someone who got a joke, i still see a scapegoat.
FoS: reborn for planting a seed.
It's pretty awesome, even moreso if I falseclaim (potentially).Guzame wrote:I was going to let it slide,but now you're just trying to find a reason to roleclaim on purpose.reborn537 wrote:meta - chenhsi has a tendancy to make himself look suspicious when perhaps he's just acting normally. I've never seen him play as scum, though, so that's not very helpful.
On a sidenote, I'm pretty surprised noone has commented on what I said in post 42.
I'm going to get my stuff from uni, I'll be back in like 8 hours.
So,what's so great about this role that you're willing to give it away to everyone,including the scum?
Fixed.ClockworkRuse wrote:reborn537 wrote:We just lost a day where a night kill is POTENTIALLY avoided because of your claim, if you actually have this role at all.
Cop isn't the only one that could clear me. Tracker could, certainly, and a couple of others could corroborate half of my role if I end up having to give away the whole of it. Which I'm hoping not.Quagmire wrote:If he's a power role, and NK immune like he says he is, then we have nothing to worry about, because there's no way he gets killed at night. I don't want to waste a cop investigation on him at all, considering that we can find tons of information simply from paying attention to him.Farkshinsoup wrote:I see what you're saying, but wouldn't it be better to leave this at least until Day 2? Someone else may be able to investigate reborn and find out more, or he may be boxed into a corner by then, if he is scum. He's certainly on everyone's radar now.Quagmire wrote:I hate hate hate it when people try to use rolefishing as a legitimate scumtell. It's not. By voting for reborn, I am fishing. He says he has more information than just NK immune townie that he conveniently withheld. I don't buy it for a second, I'm calling his bluff. I'm fishing for more info. I want reborn to elaborate everything about his role at this point that would clear him if he's town.
I don't know what his deal is, but if he is some super power role, I want that to remain in our arsenal, and to remain a secret.
I must say, I was pretty stoked about having a role I'd never had before. And I've had some pretty bizarre roles in my time (Day-reflecting Lone-gun man Starcrossed-lover anybody?). The fact that it was an awesome role just made it even cooler.ClockworkRuse wrote:Anyways, I have to say that Quagmire might be right about Reborn but Reborn is also a newbie and it might have been a newbies eagerness to out himself like that.
There is no mention of that in my description, however it's possible that the GM just chose not to tell me for lols. Maybe I will check. I understand from the wiki that that is an optional part of the role.Yosarian2 wrote:Hmm. So you're the kind of hider that dies if you hide with a mafia member, reborn?
Yes, I can choose not to hide. Which is why it's WIFOM as to whether the mafia choose to go for me or not.Farkshinsoup wrote:I've never played in a game with a hider before. For now, I believe your claim.Unless he decides not to hide. Am I right that the hider can choose not to hide?Yosarian wrote: and if you're still alive tommorow you can give us a confirmed innocent if you're telling the truth.
Not sure if activity in the game will drop off because of the July 4th holiday in the US. I will be gone for the rest of the day. I have to take my nephew to see Hancock. He is a fan of Will Smith - I'll be watching Charlize Theron.
I'll try to check in tomorrow.
I was over-excitedGuzame wrote:So,I ask again,why did you want to semi-roleclaim on page 2 without any pressure on you so badly?
I think you underestimate my stupidityYosarian2 wrote:Yeah, pretty sure no one's going to blindly follow you if you're not willing to make an actual argument, Lowell.Lowell wrote:Yos still reads a loooot like scum to me. Go with me on this, people.
I have to be careful here because of rule 3. All I can say is that I die when I use my ability on someone killed during the night. I have no knowledge of any other death conditions.Yosarian2 wrote:reborn537 wrote:And by the way, I don't die if I hide behind scum.Did you check with the mod about this, reborn?reborn537 wrote:(As far as I know)
EXPLAIN. Don't just point the finger, actually take the time to explain this to me. I made a valid point, and you just have the arrogance to dismiss it out of hand. I am not insignificant, because I have a vote, and unless you want it landing on you I'd actually start bothering to explain things and make defenses instead of attacking others.Yosarian2 wrote:reborn537 wrote:because the three of you are all very experienced (Quag, Yos, Lowell), so I'm sure one of you is right - there's no way you are all town butting headsfos. False dilemma.
Maybe, but so's trying to seed a lynch on the townie with the power role!Yosarian2 wrote:...reborn537 wrote:To be honest I don't really see anything wrong with Yosarian asking Lowell to justify himself. It is normally customary to justify a vote when you cast it. It's almost as if Lowell is gambiting, but anyway...
On the other hand, his attitude is pretty sullen at the moment and I've read that that's a scum tell, so I'm willing to go with this for now. I'm not overly convinced, but I'm looking for a conclusion to day 1 of ONE of my games before too long (Day 1 of Newbie 639 is nearing the longest Day 1 on record... *sigh*). And I think we can get some info about Lowell and Quag if they turn out to be wrong about Yos.
unvote vote yos
I'm "sullen"? How is being "sullen" a scumtell?
And you're doing that thing AGAIN, where you're assuming that "either Yos is scum or Yos' attackers are scum", and it's still scummy.
Why do you assume there are only two scum?Quagmire wrote:So...right now I'm thinking Farkinsonsoup or whatever your name is and yosarian.
That's exactly what you'd say if you were scum![/b] This is ridiculous, and leads to horrible WIFOM.
If you guys make a real case, then ok, fine, but I think Yos just seems like a frustrated townie atm.
I was on the wagon for very selfish and meta reasons, and I came to my senses, reviewed the "arguments" and acted accordingly.Lowell wrote:@reborn- If you don't like the case on Yos all of a sudden, what were you doing on the bandwagon in the first place? What changed? Also, don't lump me in with Quag.
Maybe, but that's a really weak case that doesn't do anything for those of us who have never played with him before.Lowell wrote:Okay, you guys are right.unvote, vote clockwork. Nothing about his defense does anything for me.
FOS Yos. I'm still convinced he's scum. He's different than in other games I've played with him.