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That's really the only bit of information we have to analyze right now: the fact that he self-voted.
why would someone do that? It doesn't make sense this early in the game (does it ever?)
Maybe someone trying overly hard not to be scummy?
Okay, now go off an analyze me
FoS: Everyone!!/b] let's start the convo.-
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There's not a whole lot of reasoning behind this at all and some of your other posts are extremely suspect.
Vote: Alabaska J
Alabaska J wrote:Sweet sykedoc has arrived!
I see we haven't lynched Lowell yet. I'm also happy with a Korts lynch, as I think they are scumbuddies, if the town (for whatever reason) is more comfortable going that way.-
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an OMGUS FoS? Nice.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:dcorbe, I miscounted too, didn't even realize it was a lynch, I was like, WHY IS THIS THREAD CLOSED?
anyways, you make a good point about the only other person you made a case against dying, although I wouldn't have been so quick to remind everyone if I was you.
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I don't think the Mob is dumb at all. I think they're smart as hell. I think they piled onto Albaska's wagon early hoping that the town wasn't paying attention -- and it worked. They led the town along on that lynch.Korts wrote:Well, that was... anticlimactic.
I wouldn't have expected the NK to be Lowell, he was acting pretty scummy. The mafia are either idiots, or are trying to generate WIFOM.
As a side note, mod, that's pretty awesome flavor.
Besides looking at Darla for obvious reasons, we need to look at some of the people who were first on that wagon:
Lowell (RIP) was a totally random vote, and I was going to build a case against him based on the fact that he didn't unvote.
roflcopter was next on the wagon. This fact alone make him a tiny bit suspicious, but I sort of expected him to be the mob target and not lowell, so this makes me wonder if his motives were even remotely in the best interests of the town.
There's other things about roflcopter that I now find suspicios. For example, post 105:
And then a few posts later (109) with no explanation, Korts jumped onroflcopter wrote: more votes for lowell are necessary
mod, vote count please
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Read the line above him asking for the vote count, where he demands more votes for lowell with no further explanation on his part.Korts wrote:I'm sorry if I'm too tired to understand, but how is asking for a votecount a valid point in the case against rofl?
Also, I jumped on without explanation because I thought it was obvious why I did. I already had bitched about Lowell not being helpful, and he kept that up.-
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Interesting choice... Why natirasha? I don't even see any case building material around that vote from you...roflcopter wrote:
you seem to be pointendly ignoring korts.Natirasha wrote:Strangest NK I've seen in a good while.
Anyways, in order of scum to not scum.
Roflcopter and Darla seem to be the targets of the day.
that lynch was ridic, i didn't realize it was only five to lynch but the wagon built too fast anyway.
dbe looked like legit not noticing she was hammering, which is bad but i also didn't take into account the fact that this game is 9p instead of 12p.
korts on the other hand just /agreed with me and voted.
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Thanks for the explanation. Now I'm going to go back and re-read natirasha so I can decide if you're just trying to deflect or if you have a legitimate point.roflcopter wrote:i said it at the beginning of my post, he ignored korts and listed myself and dbe.
i also just read nat's posts in isolation, and what do you know, all he did yesterday was worthless self voting, banter about that, omgus voting dbe, and then sidling onto the lowell wagon with, again, an omgus vote.
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Yes, I saw your explanation for the FoS but I'm not buying it, because it seems like the thought never crossed your mind until I mentioned it in post 151 well after it occurred.roflcopter wrote:my explanation for the fos was also right there in the post.
his vote for lowell was a bandwagon hop by simpling /agreeing with me.
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It's not really an accusation. More of an observation, but do me a favor please and reread this entire page.Korts wrote:
I don't see you accusing me of anything. What should I have replied to?dcorbe wrote: Also, Korts' refusal to even acknowledge me much less to refute anything I'm saying about him to instead concentrate on distancing himself from roflcopter is duly noted.-
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Natirasha: We need a little more analysis from you, please. That along with your explanation on roflcopter's points about your behavior all day yesterday is going to help you out tremendously.Natirasha wrote:Strangest NK I've seen in a good while.
Anyways, in order of scum to not scum.
Roflcopter and Darla seem to be the targets of the day.
Also, we've gotten literally nothing at all from these two:
pojedinac (confirmed)
sykedoc (confirmed)
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Hearing other people's input is sometimes a good idea before starting a wagon. I wanted to see who (if anyone) would jump on blindly and who (if anyone) would genuinely try and build a case.Korts wrote:What would others say to the question of whether I answered everything you wanted me to or not? srsly
Neither of which is likely to happen now. Why are you so quick to try and shift attention away from yourself?
It's time to start building building cases; afterall, a good defense is a good offense.
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This is purely an OMGUSy reaction to my fishing for scum tells. How exactly am I still pushing a wagon when IKorts wrote:For now, my best bet would be you, dcorbe. You still haven't answered to me, whether I have replied to everything you wanted me to. If I have, then I don't understand why you felt the need to ask me to reread page 7 in post 167, because every point I replied to, I only restated after that post. Therefore your pushing of this "observation" that I seemingly haven't/hadn't replied to is just you trying to show me in a bad light. And if I haven't answered yet to your observation, I don't see how it wouldn't be in the town's best interests to provide me a chance to slip up, therefore your lack of restatement of this observation leads me to believe that there isn't, in fact, such an observation.
1) Haven't voted for you
2) Asked other people for their opinion on your game play so far-
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*headdesk* You *JUST* said it!Korts wrote:Where did I say you were pushing a wagon? I said you were pushing the notion that I was avoiding an answer to you, which is false.
I just reread all your posts from D1 in isolation, and you look town to me at this point. Don't ruin that by getting all uppity when people start trying to pressure you.Korts wrote: For now, my best bet would be you, dcorbe. You still haven't answered to me, whether I have replied to everything you wanted me to. If I have, then I don't understand why you felt the need to ask me to reread page 7 in post 167, because every point I replied to, I only restated after that post.Therefore your ***pushing*** of this "observation"that I seemingly haven't/hadn't replied to is just you trying to show me in a bad light. And if I haven't answered yet to your observation, I don't see how it wouldn't be in the town's best interests to provide me a chance to slip up, therefore your lack of restatement of this observation leads me to believe that there isn't, in fact, such an observation.-
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You used the word "pushing" which implies "wagon", so you're either trying to subtly plant the idea in the town's head that I'm pushing for no reason or you just don't understand.Korts wrote:"observation"=/=wagon. sorry, no cookie.
Let me ask you again, do you have anything for me to answer, or have I answered whatever you wanted me to?
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A Natirasha lynch would be a policy lynch for lack of contributions at this point. I'm not saying we shouldn't look at him, but we should be a little careful about policy lynches since we mis-lynched on D1. Keep in mind we still haven't heard from 2 other people in this game and it's entirely possible that they're scum who are just chilling out waiting for the rest of us to lynch each other.roflcopter wrote:hey that argument was stupid lets all be friends and vote for natirasha together, k?
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And I'm sure you can back this claim up?roflcopter wrote:fuck no its not a policy lynch i hate policy lynches.
natirasha looks legitimately scummy please read his posts and see for yourself.
The general theme of that statement seems to be "lynch for lack of useful content" which is a classic policy lynch no matter how you dress it up.roflcopter wrote: i also just read nat's posts in isolation, and what do you know, all he did yesterday was worthless self voting, banter about that, omgus voting dbe, and then sidling onto the lowell wagon with, again, an omgus vote.
You were pretty much convinced about Lowell during D1 and how did that turn out?roflcopter wrote: more votes for lowell are necessary
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The game is running slow because there's 2 people not participating and 2 people who refuse to post.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:I am not trying to lay low, My net's been out and I got 7 games that need catching up in, this one is lower on the list, especially since its so slow.
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You know... I actually agree with this assessment.. Darla is pretty active in some of her other games. She seems lost in what's going on here and when she does post it's to build weak cases, very much like scum who really isn't paying attention to the game.Korts wrote:Darla, I'd like to point out in regards to your short player analysis (let's call it an analysis for want of a better word) that syke had only one post, therefore the statement "how he acted in a few of his posts" is a bit, you know, misleading. As in, like he had more than one post, and like that one post had any more content than "sorry, will reread" which isn't indicative of his townness at all. I'm not very satisfied with your analysis of me, either. Scummy, but overall town? You trying to echo others while buddying up to me? Also, you name all the vocal players as town. You're making this a bit too obvious.
I realize you may not have time enough, but please try to post something a little more detailed and perhaps more accurate.
Vote: Darla
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Okay, I can deal with this, I've made that mistake before.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:firstly, that syke thing was my fault, because we are in two games right now and I was thinking of those posts, I did a re-read on here and LOL'd at myself.
You're either still not paying attention or you've got selective reading skills because you're completely ignoring the fact that I've gone after both Korts (though he's starting to look town to me) and roflcopter (who's ignoring his criticisms in favor of another quick lynch). He's very hasty and this town needs not follow him blindly. If he is town (big if at this point) his tunnel vision is going to get us all lynched one-by-oneDarlaBlueEyes wrote: point A: dcorbe; do you truely believe the scum of this game are those not paying attention and lurking? honest question.
DarlaBlueEyes wrote: and alrighty away we go....(with the relevant syke info lol)
dcorbe: started the day off with what looked like good intentions (D1 here) had a few logic flaws, but mostly were that of a townie. Still, I say townie.
Korts: Could be scum, but I am not really sure, his play style is hard to read, but I get a feel that he is more town than scum from the overall lump of his posts.
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I'm indifferent towards Korts right now.
His tunnel vision doesn't bother you at all? Concentrating on one lynch target per day with no discussion doesn't seem like a rather anti-town thing to do?DarlaBlueEyes wrote: rofl: seems townie, although pretty renegade with his quick lynch/quick bandwagon mentality.
DarlaBlueEyes wrote: now for the scummy few:
Natirasha, possibly the least scummy of the three, if for nothing else, posting quite a bit more and adding content, I still wouldn't put all my egg's in his basket to say he ISNT scum, but I'd bet he was less than Poj and Syke.
Syke: *in correct game now lol* No posts, lurks heavily, is active in other games most lkely a sign of lurking, probably scum
poj: looking bqack at his posts, all he did, was argue with Lowell most especially about the scummyness/non scummyness of self voting, he had a few posts that dared stray from that general subject but nothing that added helpful content to the game. scum.
so today I say we lynch Syke or Poj.
with my vote,vote Poj(syke gets a chance to actually post, vs Poj who wont post anymore and certainly wont post content thats useful)
and for the record I believe the vote count is:
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Sorry but I don't buy that. If he were scum hunting he would be posting more content than:DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
Not per say but, better someone who is aggressively hunting (using the vote pressure tactic I assume) than someone who is more apathetic and doesn't care about voting.His tunnel vision doesn't bother you at all? Concentrating on one lynch target per day with no discussion doesn't seem like a rather anti-town thing to do?
@ the vote count; udders @_@
and:roflcopter wrote: more votes for lowell are necessary
Both wagons he was pushing on D1 turned up town, though admittedly one wasn't entirely his fault. You would think after being wrong twice so far he'd be making a more honest effort to build cases, but he's still sitting there demanding quick lynches, so he isn't acting in the best interests of the town right now.roflcopter wrote: hey that argument was stupid lets all be friends and vote for natirasha together, k?
Secondly, he hasn't really even acknowledged my presence in this game yet which I think is a little strange, but I don't know what to make of it yet. In any case he's not mounting much of a defense so he's not even acting in his own best interests right now.-
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I haven't moved my vote off of you yet for a few reasons:DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
If you feel so strongly he is scum, or scummy, why are you not voting him? (yes you're own logic can bite you in the butt like that)dcorbe wrote:
Sorry but I don't buy that. If he were scum hunting he would be posting more content than:DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
Not per say but, better someone who is aggressively hunting (using the vote pressure tactic I assume) than someone who is more apathetic and doesn't care about voting.His tunnel vision doesn't bother you at all? Concentrating on one lynch target per day with no discussion doesn't seem like a rather anti-town thing to do?
@ the vote count; udders @_@
and:roflcopter wrote: more votes for lowell are necessary
Both wagons he was pushing on D1 turned up town, though admittedly one wasn't entirely his fault. You would think after being wrong twice so far he'd be making a more honest effort to build cases, but he's still sitting there demanding quick lynches, so he isn't acting in the best interests of the town right now.roflcopter wrote: hey that argument was stupid lets all be friends and vote for natirasha together, k?
Secondly, he hasn't really even acknowledged my presence in this game yet which I think is a little strange, but I don't know what to make of it yet. In any case he's not mounting much of a defense so he's not even acting in his own best interests right now.
1) I want to give the other two people a chance to comment before I attempt to wagon him
2) I'm not satisfied with your explanation of why you hammered so quickly, which is one scum tell
3) I don't know why you're defending someone who is so obvscum at this point which is another scum tell
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To expand a bit on my reason #4:dcorbe wrote:
I haven't moved my vote off of you yet for a few reasons:DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
If you feel so strongly he is scum, or scummy, why are you not voting him? (yes you're own logic can bite you in the butt like that)dcorbe wrote:
Sorry but I don't buy that. If he were scum hunting he would be posting more content than:DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
Not per say but, better someone who is aggressively hunting (using the vote pressure tactic I assume) than someone who is more apathetic and doesn't care about voting.His tunnel vision doesn't bother you at all? Concentrating on one lynch target per day with no discussion doesn't seem like a rather anti-town thing to do?
@ the vote count; udders @_@
and:roflcopter wrote: more votes for lowell are necessary
Both wagons he was pushing on D1 turned up town, though admittedly one wasn't entirely his fault. You would think after being wrong twice so far he'd be making a more honest effort to build cases, but he's still sitting there demanding quick lynches, so he isn't acting in the best interests of the town right now.roflcopter wrote: hey that argument was stupid lets all be friends and vote for natirasha together, k?
Secondly, he hasn't really even acknowledged my presence in this game yet which I think is a little strange, but I don't know what to make of it yet. In any case he's not mounting much of a defense so he's not even acting in his own best interests right now.
1) I want to give the other two people a chance to comment before I attempt to wagon him
2) I'm not satisfied with your explanation of why you hammered so quickly, which is one scum tell
3) I don't know why you're defending someone who is so obvscum at this point which is another scum tell
4) "One must follow the rabbit"
This is what you said when you jumped on Alabaska's wagon on D1. I dismissed this as a joke initially but since then I've thought about what this comment really means and I've come to a conclusion.
1) It was not a joke, it was an attempt to transparently buddy up to roflcopter and pass it off as a joke.
2) It was also an excuse to jump on a wagon without any reasoning or original thought of your own.
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I'm impressed by what a good handle you've got on this game so far, especially since this appears to be the first one you've really posted in.ShadowGirl wrote:Natarisha - The self vote could either of been an act to look scummy, but due to it being so early it would be no doubt dismissed and made to look like a random, albeit silly vote or it was to get discussing going.
Darla - Cautious as far as voting. I might have pegged her for cop, but since they've been killed off... But, did not realize her vote was key in lynching Alabaska. Either a big oversight or subtly scummy behaviour.
Rofl - He seems that every post he's pointing the finger at someone else, but with hardly any basis behind it. Once again, it seems that he's trying to be in the spotlight and to provoke others, so either he has nothing to lose [being a townie] or mafia and can dispatch of whoever has been picking on him the most.
Lowell [Merely to bring up quotes] - Was the only one voting for Alabaska before the bandwagon started, at which rolfcopter and Korts quickly joined in. However, it wasn't before this post:
Also:Alabaska J wrote: I see we haven't lynched Lowell yet. I'm also happy with a Korts lynch, as I think they are scumbuddies, if the town (for whatever reason) is more comfortable going that way.
[In response to Darla commenting that this was the start of a 'beautiful bandwagon'.roflcopter wrote:it is beautiful you should get on it with us.
Korts - Other than the above, I see no reasons for suspicion. However, these are the only few people that have given me the feeling of scum. Overally passive playing [?]
Poj - Lurker, but probably not as a tactic to stay under the radar, as I think he might need a prod by now. I get a neutral vibe, probably a townie.
dcorbe - At first a bit lurky, and seems to be looking for other people's input frequently, as perhaps a way to gain good will among them?
Vote: roflcopter
To answer your question I'm frequently looking for people's opinions for my own benefit. I'm not really buddying up to anyone because I've launched numerous attacks on people, including your lynch target for day 2.
I take notes on literally everything that everyone says. The more that people talk, the more obvious their connections to each other become until eventually you have a pretty clear map of who is scum and who isn't.
I haven't decided if I want to remove my vote from Darla yet, and hop onto roflcopter. I want to hear more of what Darla has to say in her defense and more of what other's have to say about the points I've brought up on Darla (including from you) and we still have yet to hear from one more person who has been proded but not replaced yet.
Also FYI, a cop hasn't been killed in this game yet. We don't even know if there's a cop in this game or not. We do know that there's at least two power roles here, both of which are still alive.-
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Okay.. I'll bite... I'm satisfied with leaving Darla alone for the time being and putting some pressure onto roflcopter. He's gone MIA in this game and already has a cloud of suspicion around him.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:just catching up, btw, welcome to the game SG, I do apologize for being a bit lazy here, with my internet going out, and having to catch up multiple places, and this game having been a bit slow for awhile it was lower on my priorities, but tis more active now and I am re-reading.
One problem I have, is that the D1 lynch was so fast (I so didn't realize this was a 9 player and would have never voted had I realized it was a hammer)
dcorbe, I do wonder, in you post you say, we DO (certainty) have 2 power roles, before Prozac confirmed. Now I am wondering if this means that you have a PR, id this is the case, I urge you not to confirm or claim,yetalthogh this is a shorter game, and probably wont go more than 3-4 days depending on how well we lynch, and if we catch the scum, but most certainly would wait until tomorrow or until you are in danger of a lynch yourself.
that said, I agree with your points about rofl, and I can't help but think a little pressure on him, (his own tactic) would be benifical to getting more information out of him.
unvote; vote rofl
he plays incredible similar to the infamous (well to me since I was involved 7for7 tactic by Albie. see here for info on 7for7 http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=7for7 Me bing the 'Player Y' this is very similar, only rofl gives even LESS reasonong)
As for korts, I think he is someone to look at tomorrow, but we don't have enough info to lynch him today, but I will be re-reviewing his posting to see what I can find.
If there's 7 of us alive it takes 4 to lynch, correct?
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Vote: roflcopter
By my count that puts him at L-1
So roflcopter: time to claim!
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Sorry, it's only been ~48 hours, but seriously dude. You need to wake up an address some of these concerns.
If we lynch you now that will be 2 lynches in 10 pages. The probability of the result being 2 mis-lynches is very high and very bad for the town. If you are pro-town then you really need to start defending yourself and building cases instead of demanding quick lynches.-
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The last time he posted was sunday evening only a few hours after he last posted in this game, so no we can't assume he's lurking.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:EBWOP grr at tags. Meta Him:
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You need to read back a little further because I've been giving reasons to justify my vote against you for a long time now.roflcopter wrote:
the lynch-1 vote and "TIME TO CLAIM!" statement without giving his own reasons for voting aside from the fact that he seemed to think not posting in 48 hours consisted of the kind of lurking that only scum could be doing.Korts wrote:But how's dcorbe rolefishing, rofl? I don't see that.
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Actually, scratch that.. It doesn't look like we're going to get another chance.dcorbe wrote:Okay this is officially the most retarded town ever. Next person to drop the hammer without a claim or any discussion should be lynched.
Vote: roflcopter
on top of my vote***HUGE*** FOS ON: DarlaBlueEyes, ShadowGirl-
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You're FoSing someone for the same thing you did. You easily forget that you're the one who dropped the hammer on D1, Darla.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:ok seriously, explain Please? <the FOS on me>
and what do you mean 'This is the most retarded town ever' dissociative from the town much?
And by the results can we assume we have a doctor? I mean I dont want anyone to claim yet, but why would the scums not send in a Kill at this point? the scums in this game are seriously making some weird choices. Lowell on N1 was way out of left field since so many people suspected him, he would seem like a good fall guy for the scum to push a wagon on.
and now if they DID send in a no kill I am just baffled....
Looking over yesterday's events I am gonna, <agree with dcorbe on ONE thing>
Fos Shadowwhats with the rush hammer, I mean I didn't even get to check the thread before you did, and Az barley got to post or add input. This 9 player style is dangerous for rash voting, we need to be more careful when adding votes.
That's why I'm FoSing you.
And your assumption is correct. We do have a doctor alive who scored a hit.
I think we all need to look REALLY closely at roflcopter right now because his contributions have been minimal, he has been super quick to lynch, and he has been wrong on 3 wagons so far (Alabaska, Lowell and now Natirasha)
@Azimuth: What do you think of all of this?
@Korts: Who should we be focused on and why
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I'll tell you what.. darla.. Since roflcopter is away right now and you're at the keyboard, I'm going to go ahead andDarlaBlueEyes wrote:ok seriously, explain Please? <the FOS on me>
and what do you mean 'This is the most retarded town ever' dissociative from the town much?
And by the results can we assume we have a doctor? I mean I dont want anyone to claim yet, but why would the scums not send in a Kill at this point? the scums in this game are seriously making some weird choices. Lowell on N1 was way out of left field since so many people suspected him, he would seem like a good fall guy for the scum to push a wagon on.
and now if they DID send in a no kill I am just baffled....
Looking over yesterday's events I am gonna, <agree with dcorbe on ONE thing>
Fos Shadowwhats with the rush hammer, I mean I didn't even get to check the thread before you did, and Az barley got to post or add input. This 9 player style is dangerous for rash voting, we need to be more careful when adding votes.UnvoteandVote: DarlaBlueEyesand I will take the time to explain why:
1) You're FoSing people for the same actions you've done and I think you're trying to hide behind some weird moral high ground.
2) This was an extremely short night, so we know the players who had a night choice are at their keyboards right now. Since you and I were the first to post and I know I'm not scum, it must mean either you are or you have bad timing.
3) Well, you dropped the hammer on D1.
4) I think it's awfully suspicious that you're trying to confirm a kill. That's a huge newbie scum tell. You submitted a name to the mod and you're wondering why the kill didn't go through. There's really no other reason to attempt to confirm a kill especially since the mod basically spelled out the scene for us all.
5) Post 138 "Must obey the bunny" jumping on a bandwagon with no reasoning. A bandwagon which you were dead wrong on, and to make matters worse that was the hammer drop.
6) Post 146. You tell me I made a good point, but then you FoS me because I was on the wagon right behind you. That is an OMGUSy reaction as I pointed out to you in post 148
7) Post 169.. Again.. following roflcopter onto the WRONG bandwagon. Seriously, buddy up much?
8) Post 183, You've been lurking apparently.. so by this point all you've really done is posted short meaningless quips and chased roflcopter around from wagon-to-wagon mostly agreeing with his logic instead of trying to build your own cases
9) Post 194... where's that analysis you promised us in post 183? You sure seem to like to ask for others to be proded but you still haven't really contributed an original thought of your own yet. I pointed that out to you in the very next post (195)
10) Post 198, instead of posting anything useful you tell me how annoying I am, and then you proceed to give everyone your "analysis" which is really just a list of who you think is town and who isn't with nothing to back it up.
11) Korts points out your lack of contributions in 201. And you don't even address it this time... no OMGUSy reaction.. you just..simply..ignore him.
12) Post 211: More buddying up to roflcopter
13) Post 214, Even more buddying up to roflcopter
14) Post 232. You've been lurking.. again... You go back to taking the moral high ground about your obvious D1 misdeeds (dropping the hammer) and now you're trying to buddy up to me and distance yourself from roflcopter because I'm on to you.. Also your vote for roflcopter here seems to be a complete 180 from your previous stance
15) Now you're attacking me because I'm going after your scum buddy again.. this is right after you voted for him, BTW.. flip-flop much?
16) post 251.. backing off his wagon because you don't want to bus him... you only want to ride it to the point so you can come off looking pro-town if he does get lynched.
17) Post 266: Following roflcopter back onto the wrong wagon again.
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And to add to my lengthy list of DBE scum tells.. we have... yet another OMGUSy reaction out of her. Are you seriously suggesting that I'm just as dirty as you are because I put him at L-1? I was at *LEAST* willing to wait for a role claim and you were not.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
are you saying YOU are the doctor? I mean it IS possible we have a Role Block.And your assumption is correct. We do have a doctor alive who scored a hit.
and I have explaind my hammer many times, you yourself said you didn't realize it was 5 to lynch, so stop acting all high and mighty on it, kthnxbai. We all made the mistake of mislynching, you're hollier than thou act is getting really old.-
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No.. I just keep good notes on my games. You should try it.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:Firstly, you have way too much time on your hands.
You say that after the fact, but I don't believe your intention was ever to "unFoS" her. Now that I've called you on it you're trying to back pedal.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
How am I hiding? I admitted to the same mistakes. I thought SHadow KNEW she was hammering, After that last post I had taken my FOS off. I don't always post 'UnFOS' believe it or not, Im normal that way. You are the one acting like your Mr. Town Hero, and as if you couldn't POSSIBLY be scum yourself.dcorbe wrote:
I'll tell you what.. darla.. Since roflcopter is away right now and you're at the keyboard, I'm going to go ahead andUnvoteandVote: DarlaBlueEyesand I will take the time to explain why:
1) You're FoSing people for the same actions you've done and I think you're trying to hide behind some weird moral high ground.
Sure, I followed the crowed, but who is worse for wear? Me for putting him at L-1 or you for hammering? I initially bought your excuse for hammering but when you combine that with the rest of your scum tells it really doesn't look like a believeable excuse anymore.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
Ok for what, the 8th or 9th, time, NONE OF US, realized it was 5 to lunch. The Hammer wasn't intentional, and YOU put him at L-1, YOU followed the crowd and voted as well. Hypocritical point 1.3) Well, you dropped the hammer on D1.
I didn't ignore your question. I didn't even see a question. And I did acknowledge the fact that there's possibly a second power role alive that could have prevented the kill. It was a mistake I made interpreting the rules, as you have also made in this game. See posts 232 and 234. It is a null tell.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
LMAO @ The newb calling me a newb. Ok first off, do you think I am THAT stupid? or are you describing how YOU feel? I am thinking out loud for the town, I have been in many games, many which are complete and some that are running, I KNOW what a no-Kill means, I dont need to run to the mod and cry. and ' No Point ' ??? Seriously??Do you not want people sniffing around? and You ignored my question about the cop quite well, AND you seemed a bit miffed, Maybe someone is mad that their Kill was prevented by the cop??4) I think it's awfully suspicious that you're trying to confirm a kill. That's a huge newbie scum tell. You submitted a name to the mod and you're wondering why the kill didn't go through. There's really no other reason to attempt to confirm a kill especially since the mod basically spelled out the scene for us all.
The fact that you have an extra 15 days of experience over me must mean that you are correct.
The problem with that is we were already well out of the random voting stage when you dropped the hammer. You said at one point you thought he was at L-2 when you hit, but who in their right mind places a random vote or even a semi-random vote on someone at L-2?DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
1, I t was still semi random, 2, See number 3.5) Post 138 "Must obey the bunny" jumping on a bandwagon with no reasoning. A bandwagon which you were dead wrong on, and to make matters worse that was the hammer drop.
OMGUS = Oh My God You Suck. Go look it up. And to answer your question,DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
Sooo... If I FOS you, while saying you made a good point its OMGUS! Wow MafiaWiki must be wrong about the definition of OMGUS, perhaps you should go enlighten them. That hole point really makes no sense to me honestly.6) Post 146. You tell me I made a good point, but then you FoS me because I was on the wagon right behind you. That is an OMGUSy reaction as I pointed out to you in post 148ABSOLUTELYFoSing someone in the same breath as you bash them is an OMGUSy thing to do, if not just pure WIOFM logic.
Sure I jumped on some of those wagons, but I gave reasons. Jumping on a bandwagon just for the hell of it == MAJOR scum tell.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
ZOMG! I Joined a Bandwagon on someone who Looked Scummy!!! What Am I?? Scum Hunting??? :O the nerve of me. And Hind sight is 20/20, and I do believe I recall you voting on a few of those wagons. Hypocrite point 2.7) Post 169.. Again.. following roflcopter onto the WRONG bandwagon. Seriously, buddy up much?
You ADMITTED to lurking. You obviously either don't read your own posts or you don't think about what you type or some combination of the two. And I quote:DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
Ohhh so now I am the lurker? not the two that had to be replaced or Natirasha? Since I have a life and cant post every 3 minutes like you, I must be lurking, How dare I? and rofl was the lead town attacker, we had very little to go on, and he thought he knew what he was saying. Pressure votes never hurt anyone.8) Post 183, You've been lurking apparently.. so by this point all you've really done is posted short meaningless quips and chased roflcopter around from wagon-to-wagon mostly agreeing with his logic instead of trying to build your own cases
And for the record, Natirasha and the two others that were replaced were both called on their lurking. I seem to recall Natirasha making an honest effort at contributing before she was quick-lynched by you and your scum buddy.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:catching up..nice to see activity here again! Will post later this afternoon/Evening I have to go see family and stuff.
I'll respond to this when you point out to me and the rest of the group exactly what I haven't responded to yet...DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
LOL, ok, so, I see, tp recall asking you for a few posts that you never delivered on, and I seem to recall you going with the town on several tangents, and I seem to recall you adding very litte and being unable to explain all your FOS's with out demanding someone ELSE answer you, on something that wasn't even there. <see the Korts stuff yesterday>9) Post 194... where's that analysis you promised us in post 183? You sure seem to like to ask for others to be proded but you still haven't really contributed an original thought of your own yet. I pointed that out to you in the very next post (195)
"You are annoying" is aDarlaBlueEyes wrote:
OMG! I did? I mean who would say what they thought When asked. I mean wow. and ftr you were <and are> being very annoying, some players are like that. Demanding I replace out because I cant post EVERY SECOND OMG! That is annoying, and I do remember you accepting my alignment analysis post quite well.10) Post 198, instead of posting anything useful you tell me how annoying I am, and then you proceed to give everyone your "analysis" which is really just a list of who you think is town and who isn't with nothing to back it up.
classicway of saying "OMGUS" Seriously, take both terms completely out of context and compare them...
Also, please point out where I actually accepted your alignment analysis.. besides the fact that I went ahead and voted roflcopter anyways based on my own analysis.
I'm not mad, I don't get emotional over games like you seem to. I was merely pointing out that you're not reacting to him as badly as you're reacting to me right now. Maybe it's because he's not onto you like I am, may not. I don't know.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
So.. now...YOu are MAD I didn't OMGUS him? Or just jealous I OMGUS'd You and NOT Him? so the fact that when he voted me I didn't throw a fit and throw a vote back at him... makes...me scum? I think I need a copy of your MafiaWiki cos obviously, You Know better than the one here.11) Korts points out your lack of contributions in 201. And you don't even address it this time... no OMGUSy reaction.. you just..simply..ignore him.
It's buddying when you vote along side of him for no reason. You pointed out his "agressive" scum hunting but really all he's doing is quick-lynching and giving very little reason behind his votes. Further, you're defending him every time I attack him, and you wouldn't have a reason to completely disregard my arguments and defend him blindly unless you were partnering with him.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
Gee, so since I didn't tell him he was being annoying like you, that means Im his buddy? got it, must insult people more.12) Post 211: More buddying up to roflcopter
You need to seriously quit with the OMGUS. It makes you look scummy.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
Hey have you seen one of those big heavy book things called a dictionary? hows about you look up sarcasm, and having fun.13) Post 214, Even more buddying up to roflcopter
Again.. a very emotional, very OMGUSy response, but I'll take a moment to explain it to you anyways since you obviously don't get it. My theory here is that you finally caught on that your blindly defending of roflcopter is making you look scummy, so you tried to distance yourself from him by picking something I said randomly and agreeing with me. Classic buddying me, distancing him.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
Again Lurking to You /=/ Lurking to the rest of the world. You accused rofl of dropping off the face of the earth for not posting in LESS than 42 hours, and I restate, some of us have lives. So, because I think He is scum after his renegade actions, AND YOU think he is scum I am YOUR buddy now. Wow and to think I thought two people could think the same thing. and 'You were on to me' you sure are cocky here, Mr Town Hero, is grasping at straws and changing his mind 1 million miles an hour. Also, My vote was clearly stated as a pressure vote to see what we could get out of him, which proved effective since he then posted content.14) Post 232. You've been lurking.. again... You go back to taking the moral high ground about your obvious D1 misdeeds (dropping the hammer) and now you're trying to buddy up to me and distance yourself from roflcopter because I'm on to you.. Also your vote for roflcopter here seems to be a complete 180 from your previous stance
And BTW, I jumped on roflcopter specifically because while you may be right that he had posted recently, he's basically been ignoring the points I've been bringing up against him throughout the entire game. Note, as of this writing he still hasn't addressed one single issue that I have raised against him.
Sorry, I forgot to quote the actual post here.. It's #239, where you said I was "double-minded" Yet another ad-hom attack.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
I dont see this, unless you mean my telling you He isn't lurking and telling you you would do well not to be so double minded, if that = attack, then again I need to see your superior copy of MafiaWiki.15) Now you're attacking me because I'm going after your scum buddy again.. this is right after you voted for him, BTW.. flip-flop much?
I did read your posts. I know what you SAID, but what you SAY is less interesting sometimes (like the rare times when you're not OMGUSing the crap out of me) than your actions. Your actions in this case seem to indicate that you were opportunistically voting because you really didn't try to build your own case against roflcopter, you instead rode in on that wagon on my coat tails.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
Again, My vote was a pressure vote, It was L-1 and I didn't want a lynch yet since he finally started posting content, which is why i voted him to begin with, FOR PRESSURE HIS OWN TACTIC, Please read my posts if you are going to try and accuse me with them.16) post 251.. backing off his wagon because you don't want to bus him... you only want to ride it to the point so you can come off looking pro-town if he does get lynched.
Again, it's not about what you say (always) it's about what you do. And what you do is consistently fail to justify your votes with any sort of case building material instead choosing to hide behind craplogic excuses like "pressure voting".DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
So, because I took action and Voted for The SCUMMIEST player around, I am being a sheep and its ALL my FAULT that we mislynched again? You are being very disassociative from this town, and I don't like it btw.17) Post 266: Following roflcopter back onto the wrong wagon again.
I have stayed consistent the entire game with building my case against you and roflcopter.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
Yes, and knowing you, you will change your mind in 3-4 posts.In conclusion, I think it's pretty clear who should be lynched today.
[/quote]DarlaBlueEyes wrote: I don't know if you are scum, but I think you are a seriously high minded newbie who just tried really hard, and just failed.
My main points about YOU points; You are a Hypocrite.
You might as well scream from the top of your lungs:
OMGUS is a standard scum tell. Start keeping OMGUS point logs on people and you'll see that the more they do it the more likely it is that they're scum. In this one single post, you've OMGUSed me more than most people do in an entire game.DalraBlueEyes wrote:
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Here's the bottom line Darla. You have not contributed an original thought of your own (except to blast me) the entire game. You've voted for people with very little of your own justification hiding behind excuses like "pressure voting" so you conveniently need no justification.DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
Excuse me mr. know it all, Pressure voting is not a crap logic excuse. Pressuring is a way to get players to put out content or fail to. If he had failed I would not have Unvoted him. You have not the experience or the track record to tell me whats a good voting reason or not.Again, it's not about what you say (always) it's about what you do. And what you do is consistently fail to justify your votes with any sort of case building material instead choosing to hide behind craplogic excuses like "pressure voting".
How about you try surviving your first game with the likes of Yos2 Joudas, MBF, ABR, Mac, and PyroDwarf You learn fat in this game, and when you have played with and been terrified by the masters of the game, you pick up on a lot. Call it a crash course.
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@korts,
In response to a couple of your questions:
Yes, I believe the fact that she's following roflcopter onto the wrong wagons is relevant because she keeps doing it, and further defending roflcopter's voting record by calling it "aggressive scum hunting". Keep that comment in mind when you go back and reread roflcopter. He really hasn't done much scum hunting at all and he's done absolutely zero to justify his votes.
Also I would pose to you this question: Why is my case against Darla so "borderline?" What has she done so far to justify her voting record? Please quote posts if you can.
When I confonted Darla about her voting record, she seems to be doing everything she can to discredit her aggressors instead of responding intelligently to the criticism levied against her. Do you not agree that a lot her actions towards me have been very OMGUSy? And do you not agree that OMGUS is a scum tell?
The few points she did try to legitimately mount a defense against were the points I brought up about her bandwagoning. She tried to explain that she was pressure voting and that it's a valid scum hunting technique. It is true, pressure votes can be a useful scum hunting tool but you usually have to back up your vote with a case as well, because otherwise scum could simply hide behind that excuse to justify their votes with no real case against their victim.
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The rules do say that a majority is require to lynch. A majority is 1 over 50%, so with 7 alive it would have taken 4 to lynch. Please pay closer attention.ShadowGirl wrote:@Azimuth: There may have been a vote count three posts before the hammer, but it didn't say how many were needed to lynch.
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Please do point me in the direction of this mysterious post-by-post analysis that you claim to have give us.roflcopter wrote:
what the fuck do you call a post by post analysis if it isn't scumhunting and vote justification you tool?dcorbe wrote:He really hasn't done much scum hunting at all and he's done absolutely zero to justify his votes.
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roflcopter wrote:dcorbe wrote:Please do point me in the direction of this mysterious post-by-post analysis that you claim to have give us.roflcopter wrote:the following is a post by post analysis of natirasha, scumbag extraordinaire.
a self-vote. unreadable, unhelpful, and yet, its what he does in every game. probably to cultivate some stupid maverick image for himself on this site, in hopes that while it'll get him lynched as town a few times, in the future he'll be able to hide behind it as scum. like right now. but I digress.Natirasha wrote:vote: Natirasha
well that doesn't seem to be on the topic of playing a game of mafia, but its still the random voting phase so thats ok...Natirasha wrote:I actually can't get an avatar because my photobucket account got hijacked by 4chan...
a followup to the prior, non-game-related post...Natirasha wrote:Natirasha: Now with avatar!
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