Open 65 - Mini Love (Over!) before 578

[armlx]

Will post tonight and what not.

[armlx]

I agree with ABR, though I still haven't read. Lynching either pair is the wrong play unless the other pair has come up as town.

Though I'm not sure if the lovers claiming is the best plan in the first place. I'll have to think about this as I reread.

[armlx]

Because best case its a 3 for 1, worst case its a 5 for 1. Neither is really number efficient for us now.

[armlx]

Holy shit Jex was dumb this game.

I like where her vote was though. Looks a lot like another ongoing with KortS scum to say the least, plus the whole lover lynch push....

[armlx]

Thank you silence.

Defintely agree.

[armlx]

Ah, but you fail to realize the scum have no incentive to kill the lover pair, especially if Korts is scum and is lynched.

[armlx]

Um, no incentive? They get two townies instead of one.

Unless you're saying they're both scum?

Except if Korts = scum and is dead and a double town lover pair dies, I wonder who the last scum is? Oh wait, traitorous lover....

[armlx]

I think you guys are wrong. If we lynch Korts and he is not scum at what point do you lynch the lovers to find out if one is scum?

When we've found the one hiding among the townies?

And why would a lover hide among townies?

I'm trying to figure out if this is a joke or you didn't get that he was referring to mafia.

[armlx]

Again, lynch lovers is bad as at best its 3 for 1 and at worst 5 for 1. And 3 for 1 is an even trade based on the set up %ages. So at best, town breaks even......

[armlx]

Basically killing any lovers is disadvantageous for both sides until the game is already more or less over.

[armlx]

Basically killing any lovers is disadvantageous for both sides until the game is already more or less over.

So why leave it in the scum hands to decide?

Because its equally terrible for them to kill a lover as well until doing so ends the game. Doing so turns a possible 5 for 1 into a assured 3 for 1.

[armlx]

So ABR has a confirmed innocent. Is revealing worth it?

[armlx]

I protected farside.

Fair nuff. I guess in this scenario the mafia would know who the confirmed innocent is anyways as they made the kill, so there's no harm in revealing. I'm just really bad at knowing when to reveal innocents with regards to cops.

[armlx]

I'm not sure. I'm sorta ignoring the whole lover scenario until I absolutely have to decide.

[armlx]

scummy as hell ^^^

Vote: dahill

Agree, though again this seems like a scenario I don't want to touch with a 10 foot pole until necessary.

[armlx]

Speculating on NK's like that is just WIFOM.

[armlx]

Generating WIFOM is scummy. Thats the point.

[armlx]

Guys. I lied about being a doctor. I'm just a vanilla townie.

I know who the real doctor is.

This made me lol.

[armlx]

Do we have any reason not to lynch ABR immediately?

He has a history of this as town.

[armlx]

lol a couple people actually believed me.

Its all good. Maybe the idiot scum will let me live again so I can save farside again. LOL

You are a confusing little boy ABR.

[armlx]

Basically, here's what happens if we lynch lovers:

A) We lynch right, we end up at 4/1. Not terrible.

B) We lynch wrong, suddenly we are in 2/1 end game. Not a fan.

[armlx]

But if dahill is scum, we have to lynch him.

Your insight is brilliant.

[armlx]

Vote Coron

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Farside 2 is confirmed town unless ABR is being dumb, so I'm sure that wagon was 100% town. I really don't like your attempt to throw suspicion there.

[armlx]

Hmm, I thought I had posted more recently.

Nothing to say on anything since my last post.

[armlx]

BBM is notorious for being worthless and inactive.

[armlx]

That's not always true. Sometimes he is active and post happy. Sometimes he does more then just blah post.

I've seen one game to date to suggest otherwise. Compared to about 6-7 that say he is a flaker.

[armlx]

You aren't doing anything to progress the discussion. Very scummy.

Unvote, FOS, may as well be Vote Kravhen

Claim please.

[armlx]

He was just babbling away instead of trying to combat the points people made about his behavior, aka stalling.

And I did not Vote him. I put an FOS on him that I intended to be a vote for all purposes except putting him at L-1.

[armlx]

I seem to recall a thread in Mafia Discussion about scum complaining for being lynched for the "wrong reasons" (rather than complaining about being lynched). Maybe it's relevant here.

That thread was more about retroactive bitching. Like an SK being lynched b/c a mafiate defended them.

[armlx]

Btw that's wishy washy. Wanting to vote without voting. It's like wanting to shoot someone, but not being the one holding the gun.

No, its being cautious and not letting someone sit at L-1 with some evidently inattentive people in the game.

[armlx]

Not wanting someone to sit at L-1 is not wishy washy. It is cautious.

If my pseudo-vote was at ANY other position on the wagon your argument would be valid. However, it was not.

[armlx]

There's a 2 in 5 chance of him being scum, so that's not the worst odds we're ever going to get

?

Logic behind this?

[armlx]

This is coming from a man that likes to hammer.

Actually, lies.

[armlx]

Hammer.

Reasons?

[armlx]

Jex.

The awkward world of replacing people who were insanely scummy.

[armlx]

Bah and what not.

[armlx]

We assumed ABR was possibly lying out his ass.