Open 668 - Diffusion of Power [Game Over]

[PenguinPower]

Hi Penguin, you subbed into a scum slot. Discuss.

Could we start the discussion with, "Why do you think it's a scum slot?" Right now I see "Good vote, but slot is empty." Solid logic.

UNVOTE:

[PenguinPower]

I'd say the real danger is if the N1 cop who claims is actually scum.

Does that even work out.

It did the last time I played this setup.

karnos...evil bastard.

[PenguinPower]

I could also vote for DVM.

This seems a bit opportunistic. What is it about DVM that makes you okay with voting him?

[PenguinPower]

How is tex's intent to vote DVM "opportunistic" as opposed to the 4 people on his forming bandwagon?

It's opportunistic

because

there are 4 people on the bandwagon. He didn't provide a reason, just "Oh, I could vote there."

[PenguinPower]

I don'wanna lynch DVM
Why is everybody forgetting how scummy Peng's slot is?

Says creepy dancing child guy who hasn't provided a reason beyond his disdain for phallic representations of the patriarchy.

[PenguinPower]

I previously expressed suspicion of Sub. Mainly for his unexplained town read of KT. DVM has not really improved my read on the slot.

Could you explain a bit more, because all I found was this:

But could imagine myself voting for Sub, as well.

Which is kinda the same thing you said in my previous quote.

[PenguinPower]

vote the scum w/ me!

Can you sum up why that slot is scum in the form of a haiku first?

I will totally sheep those who can make scum cases in haiku form.

[PenguinPower]

You'll forgive me, but you didn't quote his quotes that you were referring to. CBF'd to go through all his posts in addition to yours.

[PenguinPower]

He likes to guard blawb
The highest guy on his list
And he kicks puppies

Brava. Brava.

Totally considering voting with you now.

[PenguinPower]

Dvms protection over him despite blawb being his highest scumread is sketchy as shit too

So, I loved the haiku and all, but I'm not seeing DVM scum. While not too fond of his 390, 406, and 455; he hasn't really defended Blawb without reason. And, while part of me thinks he just wants to out an N1 cop he's being fairly logical in his reasoning for it, and the only danger would be if Blawb and DVM are both scum. Even then, it would be a bad trade because we would power lynch Blawb D2 in that circumstance.

[PenguinPower]

Mod please replace me

This triggers me.

[PenguinPower]

Have you looked at your own ISO? Seriously...

Hell...have you even read the thread.

[PenguinPower]

I won't speculate on the RO (even though I still think it's scummy personally).

What do you think of DVM's RO?

[PenguinPower]

I'm Fire's counterwagon? Awesome.

Wait, why? Is it my charming and beguiling personality?

[PenguinPower]

So, it's the beguiling thing then. Right?

[PenguinPower]

I've played with you before and your fighting spirit is nowhere to be seen buddy

Sorries. Replacing in to an inactive game hasn't helped kindle that spirit much. I am going to finally put my vote down since someone has done something worthy of it.

VOTE: TTTT

Finally.
VOTE: Penguin
but why do I feel like I'm being manipulated?
339

This is all kinds of bad.

[PenguinPower]

okay cool, u read anything bro?
whats ur general vibes buddy

Firebringer [5]: notscience, aronagrundy, Creature, Flubbernugget, texcat

There is scum in here. It's somewhere in arona, texcat, or Creature.

PenguinPower [4]: Blawb, Transcend, Firebringer, TTTT

This one bothers me. Blawb is scummy and TTTT's most recent vote was super scummy, but I don't think both are scum...wouldn't make sense. Leaning towards this meaning Blawb is town and TTTT is scum. Blawb hasn't wavered from his vote on me, but TTTT was pushing notscience until this recent opportunity.

Transcend [1]: Pepchoninga
aronagrundy [1]: ssbm_Kyouko

Not Voting [2]: PenguinPower, chilledtea

Can't read Pep at all. Completely inactive. Don't know on chilledtea - he was super for a DVM lynch and then all of a sudden you changed his mind when I don't think you've done that much tbh. Kyouko is probably town.

[PenguinPower]

D1 vca is the bees knees guys

It's not a VCA, but I cbf'd to type out a whole reads list and it was the easiest way to convey my current thoughts.

[PenguinPower]

Well geez guys...my reads included players on two wagons where more than half the players were, and then on two more single-vote wagons where two more players were, and then the not voting-wagon where two more players were. Totes vca.

I guess I could not be lazy and copy paste each name out and then say something, but then again, as I said, I cbf'd right now.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: penguin

I support this. I haven't liked any of his input since replacing in and I feel like he's been actively avoiding scumhunting (that weird haiku thing was ridiculous). His case on TTTT is really contrived too. TTTT's been consistently scumreading pp since his replace in and his push on notscience seemed genuine to me.

K. You can be scum with TTTT. What case has TTTT offered on me, and why not continue to push a scumread instead of pushing someone else and then hopping back on an opportunistic wagon?

[PenguinPower]

What case has TTTT offered on me

None.
but my lack of explanation doesn't make you town

and why not continue to push a scumread instead of pushing someone else and then hopping back on an opportunistic wagon?

low content game
nobody else wanted you lynched so I looked elsewhere

I can't believe no one is reacting to this. Like, I can't literally be f'd to do anything if this doesn't even get a mention.

[PenguinPower]

It's more that penguin's active avoidance of providing any real content have been getting to me, and that I don't think you two are scum together.

Compared to your tireless scum hunting? Ho hum, TTTT hasn't done shit, but he's town and you're scum because REASONS!

[PenguinPower]

Let's start here penguin.
Who is scum pushing you.
Who is town pushing you.

Think I've already answered, but for clarity:

Blawb, TTTT, arona <--- one of them. I'd like to say all three of them, but that's extremely unlikely.

I already said I don't think your slot is scum, and I would be surprised if Trans was scum.

[PenguinPower]

Also I think I've said this but I really liked TTTT's push on notscience, and I can see why he would move back on to pp after said push didn't go anywhere

The f'ing haiku thing was an obv joke...seriously...wtf. Who is going to legit sheep someone because they can put together a haiku. That feels extremely forced.

Also....why can you see the move back on me. Easy to say...try to explain.

[PenguinPower]

Why do you think the TTTT/arona slot are town? I'm cool with a Blawb lynch despite his seemingly lynchproofness, but I can't see town feels from TTTT and arona.

[PenguinPower]

Why do you think the TTTT/arona slot are town? I'm cool with a Blawb lynch despite his seemingly lynchproofness, but I can't see town feels from TTTT and arona.

Arona feels town due style which feels reminiscent of their town game I played with them awhile ago. I see nothing noticeable deviation and I like their push on you.

I liked TTT post about being manipulated. Gave me gut town feel in the situation

I don't know how to debate gut and meta. So...yeah...cool...

[PenguinPower]

Well you could argue the context was scummy in both those scenarios.

Cool. Useful tips moving forward. Considered it argued.

[PenguinPower]

Also I think I've said this but I really liked TTTT's push on notscience, and I can see why he would move back on to pp after said push didn't go anywhere

The f'ing haiku thing was an obv joke...seriously...wtf. Who is going to legit sheep someone because they can put together a haiku. That feels extremely forced.

Also....why can you see the move back on me. Easy to say...try to explain.

The haiku was an excuse to act like you were seriously considering dvm to be scum when you were never actually considering it. You literally went a week without voting.

Bascially I'm seeing TTTT as a player that's trying to get things done but no one's biting at one he's giving out (his original vote on you, then the not science push). So when finally the vote moves back to you he jumps at it. You're trying to compare his low post count to yours but I can see him actually trying to engage in discussion and sort players.

The haiku was an F'in joke. Dip. It was nothing but, and thusly, had no impact on my read. I haven't voted anything for a week because this game is inactive as sin, and I an a reactionary reads player. My HS plays 48/24 games. There is none of this inactive crap.

You defense of TTTT is weak as crap to. He actively refuses to explain why he scum reads me, makes an opportunistic hop, and yet you townread him for it. That logic is crap. Also, point to one post where he actively engages in discussion. One.

[PenguinPower]

PenguinPower, manifest.

WTF does this mean?

[PenguinPower]

The fact that people are doing openly scummy things without any kind of questioning or pushing make me give f'all about this game. Have fun.

[PenguinPower]

Verb of manifestation.

Fantastic. So you just want the flip. Jesus.

[PenguinPower]

Btw, by "manifest" I mean't "show up with your thoughts".

Can you explain this for me...because manifest in the context in which you used it literally means "reveal." Why not just ask me to express my thoughts?

[PenguinPower]

I currently think that PP....would be our best lynches today.

Color me surprised...did you even read what you wrote above? Because this statement doesn't align with your (bad) thought process.

VOTE: Blawb

Why those two?

VOTE: Creature

Why Creature?

[PenguinPower]

Stop voting creature. That's a bad vote. Vote blawb.

[PenguinPower]

Bah. Weekend V/LA. I keeping forgetting mods vary on this. Catch up tomorrow.

[PenguinPower]

Not Science, You've said you think Blawb is scum, haven't you? Why aren't you voting there?

I was following transcend.

I also am townreading arona

also

VOTE: arona

but i would like to vote blawb

So....not much to catch up on...but I'm confused with this post. Like...really confused.

[PenguinPower]

Why are you voting someone you townread?

I'm guessing because of this:

If Fire flips scum, Blawb is leashed to me tonight. If I die overnight, he dies tomorrow.

Just for shits and giggles what if I am town?

Transcend.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: arona

I'm fine with arona. But, if arona is scum it weakens my scum!blawb read.

L-1

[PenguinPower]

VCA @ D2 lynch confirms what I've thought this entire game.

Explain. Cause you've done nothing this entire game except lurk and vote me and call it obvious.

[PenguinPower]

I am Night 2 cop. I investigated Titus and found town.

I've been burned by this in the past. Still thinking about how to take it.

[PenguinPower]

Weekend catchup.

Sorry...there are three N2 cop claims on the same target and we believe all of them, no questions asked?

I do think there is a high chance all three of the people who claimed to have copped titus are town.

Why?

One in {Flubber, kyouko} one in {chilled, penguin}

I'm cool with this, but I'd like to swap out Flubber for Blawb.

VOTE: Chilled

[PenguinPower]

Texcat was the first cop to report on copping titus, and I townread her prior to that.

Notscience left hints that he would cop titus, pretty much I townread him anyways before that.

Myself, cause I am town.

But, why would you auto-assume that Texaco's claim was legit? If you were town, and notsci left crumbs, wouldn't that cast some suspicion for you on a third cop investigating the same target?

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

Hurry up

[PenguinPower]

"Every town player will be either a Doctor or a Cop, with their ability only working on their assigned Night [from 1-5]."

If i understand correctly, theres 2 town prs that can act every night. Depending on the distrisbution it can be 2 cops 2 docs or 1 each, 4 of the nights at least cop/doc.

So if everyone claims their nights, theirbed 2 ccs

I don't think you understand the setup correctly.

[PenguinPower]

@Transcend, is this actually the first game ever we are both town on this site ?

PP / CK scum squad imo. Notty, just hammer PP please. No need for the theatrics.

I prefer previous Blawb. He was just bad. You're just annoying.

Your entire ISO since Persi's replace out has been a tunnel on me and a reluctant hammer on arona. You have done f'all other than that.

[PenguinPower]

*fingers crossed*

[PenguinPower]

DON'T YOU MEAN

*flippers crossed*

I'm trying to have a metamorphosis from aquatic flightless bird to aquatic flightless bird with fingers. Damnit, Transcend.

[PenguinPower]

Oh...damn...I also meant this:

VOTE: Arona

Fingers crossed.

[PenguinPower]

Why am I claiming?

[PenguinPower]

He's on the site but thread dodging

Sorry...modding a few games. They take priority.

[PenguinPower]

N1 cop with an inno on Creature.

[PenguinPower]

Also that rxn is pretty bad

What is a rxn? New term for me.

[PenguinPower]

My gut says strongly that Blawb is scum. Trans is town. I can see Texcat being scum, but I'd actually like to hear thoughts from notsci since he was absent the entire previous day.

[PenguinPower]

Most likely not.

[PenguinPower]

I'm trying to reconcile my gut with logic.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: Texcat

F'it. He camped on Blawb D2 with no movement, and little to no mention of arona. He camped on Chilled D3 with no movement. He has almost 0 interaction/mention of ssbm.

[PenguinPower]

Hi. Waiting.

[PenguinPower]

Blawb claimed N1 doc.
I am N1 cop who received an inno on Creature.
Your slot did, indeed, claim N2 cop with inno on Titus.

[PenguinPower]

Curious as to your unadulterated thoughts first.

[PenguinPower]

Well I haven't reached a conclusion, so why not share where you are at?

[PenguinPower]

Best thing I have for scum!blawb is he parked his vote on my for almost the entire game following his run to L-1 and subsequent claim (absent to hammer scum!arona) while suspecting other townies as my partner.

Your slot has been pretty town and the only two things that bother me are your slot being the third cop claim (after saying he thought there was one scum in the claims) and the weird rap battle thing. But, your slot had the most believable claim to N2 cop given the crumb - that said, scum can crumb as a play.

It's most likely blawb.

[PenguinPower]

How can I change your read without even knowing why you think it's me?

[PenguinPower]

No worries, NC. I'm only a little salty about it. It took my chance of success from 1% to .001% so overall not a huge impact.

Good game town. You really should have lynched me sooner.

Good reads, Blawb.