OPEN 663: STACK THE DECK (GAME OVER)
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Currently on page 4 I don't like him. I can't put on my finger on it, but I don't like him.In post 445, Realeo wrote:Am I the only one who didn't townread ThinkBig? Why I feel alienated?| here.GTKAS-
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I can WIFOM this all fucking day.In post 132, algebra wrote:Realeo is probably town. I don't think scum would use a line of reasoning as absurd as Realeo's.| here.GTKAS-
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Alright, so far I really do not like Desperato's slot and Antihuman's slot. I don't like Desperato's slot mostly because of MariaR's play.
And I really just don't like some of the bullshit coming out of Antihuman's slot.
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Ye.In post 485, Desperado wrote:
So do you still think Antihuman is scum?In post 474, Alisae wrote:I'll get to my thoughts about the last 11 pages later, I'm gonna go to bed actually pretty soon.
But yeah, I'm just gonna leave this here
VOTE: Desperado
Obvious TraitorIn post 486, Dunnstral wrote:In post 476, Realeo wrote:
Desperado obv Traitor, maybe...In post 474, Alisae wrote:I'll get to my thoughts about the last 11 pages later, I'm gonna go to bed actually pretty soon.
But yeah, I'm just gonna leave this here
VOTE: Desperado
Obvious Traitor
But Desperado + MariaR -> traitor... I don'k think so.
What are you talking about
What does MariaR have to do with itThis. I basicly saw this and thought traitor. Yes it's probably mocking TB, but Traitors want to make it very obvious to their scumteam that they are the traitor. You seriously have no idea how obvious they will be just to show that they are the traitor.
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Well, if we lynch the traitor first, we can use it to base our lynches for day 2 and all that stuff.In post 488, Desperado wrote:So you still think Antihuman is scum for doing scummy things, but you're voting me because sometimes traitors are obvious about showing themselves to their team?
And plus, traitor is still scum.| here.GTKAS-
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Raleo - null scum
Don't like the phrasing of "Why would I do X"
Also don't like how they back up Maria on confirming my slot as town.
Superhans -Nullscumlean
Oppertunistic voting
Sheepish behavoir
Kop - Town
Genuinely evaluating game
Algebra - Scum
Needs to eat rope beacause common core is shit, and in my algebra 2 class I didn't learn a single thing
Kyouko - probably town
Pointing out crumbs but dunno what to make of it.
Genuinely evaluates the game
Desperato - Traitor
Mostly based on Maria's slot. Don't like how they confirmed my slot as town.
Gamma - Needs Rope
Don't like their vote right away on Desperato as they replaced. Sure it's probably pressure but I feel as if it completely disregarded Maria's play.
TB - Probably Town
Davesaz - Town
Genuinely attempting to solve the game
Antihuman - Needs Rope
Sure they have some bad posts
Attempts to derail the gamma wagon. If Gamma flipped scum this would look really bad for him
Dunn - I can't read this shit. Gun to my head town?
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As for the recruiting the traitor part, I honestly thought that the recruit doesn't happen right away. Either way, MariaR just came off as really traitorish to me.In post 493, Dunnstral wrote:
First things first: I'm voting desperado and if your theory has any validity and he's the traitor I'd have caught on as scum and not been voting him. Granted, I don't know much of your theory anyway.In post 492, Alisae wrote:Dunn - I can't read this shit. Gun to my head town?
Second: You realize scum can recruit their traitor: in 491 it seems like you're assuming there's a traitor for sure. Why is that?| here.GTKAS-
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This came off as sorta sheepish to me.
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When it comes to Kop ISO him. He has some good stuff.
If you're implying that Kyouko has slipped I really don't like that.
TB was moreso a gut read. because of his town things.
And you know "gun to my head" means "If you forced me to take a stance"
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Oppertunistic as fuckIn post 561, Realeo wrote:I would move to the Desperado wagon 4 deadline.| here.GTKAS-
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If you weren't trying to lynch him, then what the fuck was your push on him when you replaced in?In post 574, Antihuman wrote:Honest to god, I wasn't really up to lynching you when I entered the game but now I seriously have reasons to see you hang, there are just too many discrepancies. I also wouldn't be surprised at Tb-Alisae team. Both are pushing me on bullshit reasoning and townread each other based on thin air, looks like a well coordinated last minute mislynch push.| here.GTKAS-
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Me.In post 583, Antihuman wrote:Yeah like a town player has reasons to freak out so much like you did after somebody puts 1 vote on them
I'll link you a game post-game. The game should be fnished by then.| here.GTKAS-
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The above refering to mine, AH sniped me.In post 587, Alisae wrote:Actually I have an example from my newbie I can show you, let me go get that real quickly
The above post is not cool.| here.GTKAS-
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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=69290
My first game ever. I freaked out over a bunch of votes because of my lack of understanding over the game early.| here.GTKAS-
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Quality Effort.In post 582, ThinkBig wrote:
on my part. I just copied and pasted the last read list.In post 577, Antihuman wrote:@TB you also left out Dunnstral from your list again, wtf is up with that?| here.GTKAS-
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In post 602, Dunnstral wrote:
Can you point out where he's linking tb and alisae?In post 592, Desperado wrote:Really don't like AH linking Alisae and ThinkBig like he is. AH-ThinkBig team gaining steam.In post 574, Antihuman wrote:Honest to god, I wasn't really up to lynching you when I entered the game but now I seriously have reasons to see you hang, there are just too many discrepancies. I also wouldn't be surprised at Tb-Alisae team. Both are pushing me on bullshit reasoning and townread each other based on thin air, looks like a well coordinated last minute mislynch push.| here.GTKAS-
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The person I've been pushing as TraitorIn post 604, Superhans wrote:Alisae if AH flips town, who would be your go to scum read?| here.GTKAS-
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NO ONE WAS TALKING TO YOU!In post 610, ThinkBig wrote:
If AH is scum, my guess would be Gamma.In post 606, Superhans wrote:Or better way of phrasing question:
if AH IS scum, who would you guess could be his scum partner,
If AH is town, then desperado is most likely the traitor.
My scumreads don't really change if AH is town or scum. It'll just make me rethink TB| here.GTKAS-
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If AH is scum with you, you are getting lynched.In post 689, Realeo wrote:Sorry. I won't move to AntiHuman. I said I would move to Desperado.| here.GTKAS-
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And so are you for attempting to to derail the AH wagon.In post 691, Desperado wrote:We need someone to switch from AH to ThinkBig and for all of algebra, SSBM, and dunnstral to appear before the deadline and also vote ThinkBig.| here.GTKAS-
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No you not moving to AH is scummy.In post 694, Realeo wrote:
Wut? ThinkBig is the offered counter wagon at 6 - 3. If I make new wagon, now that' scummy.In post 690, Alisae wrote:
If AH is scum with you, you are getting lynched.In post 689, Realeo wrote:Sorry. I won't move to AntiHuman. I said I would move to Desperado.| here.GTKAS-
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Me thinks at this point that either 2 sinareos are possible. (atleast from what I am currently thinking of)
A. AH is scum and it's an all town wagon and scum don't want to hammer at deadline.
B. AH is town and there is scum on the wagon otherwise scum would have hammered by now.| here.GTKAS-
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Oh I misinterpreted it I think...In post 697, Desperado wrote:
...In post 693, Alisae wrote:
And so are you for attempting to to derail the AH wagon.In post 691, Desperado wrote:We need someone to switch from AH to ThinkBig and for all of algebra, SSBM, and dunnstral to appear before the deadline and also vote ThinkBig.
I'll let you think about that some more; maybe you'll figure out why it doesn't make any sense yourself| here.GTKAS-
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Yeah I knew I was forgetting another solution in that case:In post 701, Realeo wrote:
False dichotomy.In post 698, Alisae wrote:ible. (atleast from what I am currently thinking of)
A. AH is scum and it's an all town wagon and scum don't want to hammer at deadline.
B. AH is town and there is scum on the wagon otherwise scum
C. AH is town and all scum is on the wagon, but some town doesn't feel the peer pressure to hit AH.
To be fair, I think C is more often to happen. B usually happen in lylo or mylo. In with lynch allowance, it's usually C.
D. AH is scum and scum are hardbussing.| here.GTKAS-
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If he's scum I'm more likely to think A. If it was D he would have been hammered already.
If he flips town, B or C are likely even tho it's the exact same thing.
Or E. All town are wagoning AH and AH is town.
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E is impossible because you just confirmed that scum is on the wagon you moron.In post 707, Realeo wrote:E is impossible due to the presence of counter wagon.
I don't get why if he's scum, it would be A? Personally, I never saw option A in action.| here.GTKAS-
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Cool RVS vote.
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With a very obvious NK? I think it puts a lot of sus on Realeo. NKA + VCA.In post 730, Dunnstral wrote:
HmmIn post 728, Alisae wrote:Algebra is on point with his shit.
Also AH's push on TB is making me think that it's scum theatre.
If you think that (the first part) then don't you think scum could have easily killed Algebra? Him being IC and all, him dying wouldn't necessarily put suspicion on realeo. Whereas algebra may vote realeo again. What are your thoughts on that?| here.GTKAS-
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Dunn that's dirty
And You wanna know why AH's push on TB seems like theatre to me? Ok. I wanna wait till everyone talks a bit until I go over this mad science. Also I need more time to study AH. I'm just gonna leave this here
“All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
"Pretend inferiority and encourage your enemy's arrogance. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush them"
― Sun Tzu
Along with the words: Metal Sonic
I don't see how the RVS vote looks like theatre.| here.GTKAS-
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Eww a face-value answer.In post 735, Dunnstral wrote:
But he's the ICIn post 732, Alisae wrote:
With a very obvious NK? I think it puts a lot of sus on Realeo. NKA + VCA.In post 730, Dunnstral wrote:
HmmIn post 728, Alisae wrote:Algebra is on point with his shit.
Also AH's push on TB is making me think that it's scum theatre.
If you think that (the first part) then don't you think scum could have easily killed Algebra? Him being IC and all, him dying wouldn't necessarily put suspicion on realeo. Whereas algebra may vote realeo again. What are your thoughts on that?
So he's the obvious kill
And if people say "why was Algebra killed" the answer can be "Because he's the IC"| here.GTKAS-
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First quote is about asking Realeo his thoughts on the NK.In post 744, Dunnstral wrote:In post 740, Alisae wrote:Dunn that's dirty
I don't know why you'd expect some wifom paranoi thingIn post 742, Alisae wrote:Eww a face-value answer.
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Alright Dunn, let me explain.
Say if the NK were to be Algebra.
VCA would tell us that Alegbra was ontop of Realeo since 185
That's a long time Dunn.
Like, 2+ weeks ago.
I feel like if there were to be a Statue of Limitations, people would have forgotten that Algebra voted Realeo super early.
Algebra was the main person that was putting pressure on Realeo.
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In post 482, algebra wrote:If Realeo isn't faking VI this game he's town.In post 743, Realeo wrote:
I should use that quote when I explain my faux-VI.In post 740, Alisae wrote:"Pretend inferiority and encourage your enemy's arrogance. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush them"
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This is explaining why an Alegbra NK would lead to you. Not my actual case on you.In post 761, Realeo wrote:
That only explains that IIn post 752, Alisae wrote:were to be a Statue of Limitations, people would have forgotten that Algebra voted Realeo super early.
Algebra was the main person that was putting pressure on Realeo.
So NKA would make the NK directed to him really obvioucanbe mafia. That does NOT explain that Iammafia.In post 762, Realeo wrote:Can anyone give me a psychological lecture about Mafia Traitor at me? Is it more normal for Mafia Traitor to be more diplomatic against town or mafia partner?
Shit attempt to jump on somone for a NK.In post 763, Realeo wrote:So this catch my attention....
So AntiHuman plays the AtE card at L-1. The wagon at the L-1 was.In post 634, Antihuman wrote:No need for useless speculation, I will flip town and TB will flip scum. Feel free to hammer.
I find it strange. AntiHuman has made a play (in my opinion) an excellent analysis (he fooled me) and push with confidence.(Gamma Emerald, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko, ThinkBig, Alisae, SuperHans)[/color]Antihuman ( 6 ) -
Why the sudden mood change from confindence to surrenderness?
I think he surrender because his scum partner is voting against him. As a mafia traitor, judging by psychological analysis, being a mafia traitor is a lonely role. Being foresaken by his partner is a lonely game.
So there are 6 people. To a certain degree.. TB is town. ssbm flipped town.There is a minimum of 1 scum in (Gamma Emerald, Desperado, Alisae, SuperHans)
This is a scumclaim.In post 765, Kop wrote:VOTE: Gamma
AH flipping traitor has put the onus back into Gamma for me. He's derailed that wagon to divert pressure
Most likely cause we were the ones posting at the time.In post 767, Superhans wrote:
Y only Dunn and Alisae?In post 737, Realeo wrote:Dunn, Alisae, would you help me analyze conversation between Kyouko and AntiHuman? That may be the only explanation of the nk?
2. Is a slip.In post 768, ThinkBig wrote:
I think you are still alive for two reasons:In post 758, algebra wrote:I'm still alive, it's a miracle.
1. You weren't very active last day phase;
2. ssbm was too close to the truth.
I think TB could be scum. Does that count for something.In post 769, Gamma Emerald wrote:
If AH didn't have such a hard-on for you I'd think you're scum for this comment.In post 766, ThinkBig wrote:Interesting night kill.
This is damming. Why would ssbm be targeted by the mafia over the innocent child?In post 714, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:but yeah im onto something i think so, completely unacceptable imo. If Kop/AH are both town I thinkif im not here to remind yall about kop in the morning please revisit his last few posts of the dayGamma/Dave/Alisae
HOS on Kop and Gamma. I really don't like how AH derailed gamma's wagon. I'm willing to vote for either kop or gamma.
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Why would a traitor, who knows who their scumteam is, go after someone who they didn't really want to lynch at the time?
They're both scum.
Becuase everyone looking at that interaction would go "Oh hey, TB is town because AH went after them hard." when maybe that's what they were triyng to make people think.| here.GTKAS-
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You're jumping on someone right away for a NK and the vote feels justified. Scum love that justified vote.In post 856, Kop wrote:How is that a scum claim? Please explain.| here.GTKAS-
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Scum can bait you into thinking that Occam's Razor is the way to go when really it's the quite opposite.In post 887, Realeo wrote:
Occam's Razor helps you stay on the ground.In post 886, Alisae wrote:Occam's Razor is fucking disgusting.| here.GTKAS