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I call Dragonair. Always liked Claire.In post 34, Crystalline Dagger wrote:
PidgeottoIn post 31, Aubrey wrote:Okay so we have 2 of Johto's main gym leader pokemon as avatars, WHO IS GONNA BE A PIDGEOT, GENGAR, DRAGONAIR or STELIX? and whatever else there was. Gotta complete this before shit gets real.
Scyther
Miltank
Gengar
Primeape
Steelix
Piloswine
Dragonair
NERD IT UP!
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Wanting to elicit a reaction. Plus post #73. Never played with him and not sure if all the small talk isn't diverting. Feeling people out.In post 89, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:And with what looks like the first serious vote casted, RVS is now officially over.
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Why is Alisae your top SR?In post 88, Hawk wrote:Early reads are still a little rough since alot of these feels like nonsense to me. But serious vote.
VOTE: Alisae
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No problem. Wanted a response on post 73, just to see your reaction. Also as I stated I wanted to get a reaction and people talking. So I said serious vote. Super soft scumlean based off not knowing your meta or what is fluff and what isn't in RVS. Basically I was trying to get people to start talking. We have time though. If I'm to believe Aubrey and Vert my lean is just not knowing your typical RVS play.In post 101, Alisae wrote:Sorry Hawk, sometimes I can be bad at reading, what did you want a response on?
Technical question. How do we do post tags? Like how do I make Post 73 link to that post #?-
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Fair enough. Thank you. Care to explain why you don't like me?In post 103, Alisae wrote:
Fair.In post 102, Hawk wrote:
No problem. Wanted a response on post 73, just to see your reaction. Also as I stated I wanted to get a reaction and people talking. So I said serious vote. Super soft scumlean based off not knowing your meta or what is fluff and what isn't in RVS. Basically I was trying to get people to start talking. We have time though. If I'm to believe Aubrey and Vert my lean is just not knowing your typical RVS play.In post 101, Alisae wrote:Sorry Hawk, sometimes I can be bad at reading, what did you want a response on?
Technical question. How do we do post tags? Like how do I make Post 73 link to that post #?
I was messing around with shit but it's something I expected to be held accountable to.
Genuinely can't give you an answer because I don't have one
Tho I like the dude so far. Tho the townread on him isn't that strong.
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Fair enough. Townread Alisae. I may have tried to move us out of RVS fairly quickly as this is my first forum mafia game and I'm a bit excited to play lol.In post 105, Alisae wrote: You're trying to get us out of RVS. Scum feel super uncomfortable in RVS.
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Thanks! Mostly TOS and meta world mafia. (Ultimate werewolf, mafia, and secret hitler). I've played forum Mafia I think once or twice a long time ago in my teenager years.In post 107, Aubrey wrote:@Hawk, I tend not to think much about RVS. Like the first three pages, I would just take with a grain of salt. Now that we are slowly inching our way out is when I'd start taking things more seriously. What is your mafia experience overall?
BTW if you click preview, you'll see buttons up top. Click the post button and just type the number in-between the tags.
Not really I was reading Alisae town for the most part. The vote and lean were to elicit reactions. I just really wanted to get us out of RVS cause I am pretty excited to play lol--
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Ew. Face some resistance and suddenly they are a town read for you?In post 106, Hawk wrote:
Fair enough. Townread Alisae. I may have tried to move us out of RVS fairly quickly as this is my first forum mafia game and I'm a bit excited to play lol.In post 105, Alisae wrote: You're trying to get us out of RVS. Scum feel super uncomfortable in RVS.
UNVOTE: Alisae
current reads from what I can gleam. If you're null you really haven't said enough for me to glean a read besides gut. /'s are soft leans if anything besides Nul
Alisae - Town
Vert - Town
Aubrey - Town
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Vert uncoated immediately to avoid unintentional wagon, and questioned me as soon as I serioused one Alisae. Reading that as town. Seemed genuine in starting discussionIn post 112, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Yeah explain yourself, especially the null/scum read on those poor Cdagger guys, they dont deserve that negativity.
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Aubrey is being active pushing for discussion holding me accountable for my reads and my posts. Read as town.
Mala decides to check back whenever we get serious. Initial read as scum. Very quiet. Not sure if this is her Meta but I read quiet people like this as scum.
Both leans one of each were people I wanted reactions from on this post.
Aelin has been a bit more active but I'm not getting anything really but a slight town lean.
Cdaggers is a hydra of two good players. Gamma from the little bit of lurking I've done on other games and completed games is more active early as town but isn't this game. Not sure if misreading that or not.
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Also yes they're softish reads Aubrey. I like to be very active in my mafia games even if my leans and reads are soft at first.-
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That's understandable but you didn't post once after the very first post of page 3 till I scum leaned you. Even as a hydra neither you nor Jinh felt inclined to share thoughts or pressure me till I put you in my reads?In post 118, Crystalline Dagger wrote:I did post pretty much all of page 2. I usually post sporadically as a hydra, as I have so many games on my main that switching leads to backlogs.
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That's fine, I'm still scumleaning you. Maybe it's because I'm used to faster paced games of TOS and IRL Mafia. Maybe it's because I think a quiet town is a dead town. Or maybe it's because I honestly think you would have at least posted once since I voted Alisae. You responded fairly quickly after I put a read on you telling me one of you was at least checking the thread regularly. So you're either scum and my lean is correct or you're town and haven't contributed and nothing yet so I scumlean you.In post 120, Crystalline Dagger wrote:
I tend to let people read me at their own pace. I find that if you pressure someone for their reads then they often rush their read and it comes off as not genuine.In post 119, Hawk wrote:
That's understandable but you didn't post once after the very first post of page 3 till I scum leaned you. Even as a hydra neither you nor Jinh felt inclined to share thoughts or pressure me till I put you in my reads?In post 118, Crystalline Dagger wrote:I did post pretty much all of page 2. I usually post sporadically as a hydra, as I have so many games on my main that switching leads to backlogs.
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Me and my friends played like 4-5 ames of secret hitler last night so my blood may still be pumping right now lol :pIn post 122, Alisae wrote:
Fuckin NormieIn post 121, Hawk wrote:Maybe it's because I'm used to faster paced games of TOS and IRL Mafia
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Aubrey and Spade: Self-vote in RVS from Alisae to me is an engage me vote not nesscarily null. IME it's often town looking to start ppl talking, accidentally start a wagon, or in general just be different and standout during RVS. So I engaged wanting to see what he had to say.
131 Vert why does my Aelin read bother you? Null/town or null/scum are like the softest of leans.
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124 2 things.
1. Specifically why don't you like my read list in 116? It's a soft read list. I clarify that later.
2. I'm glad someone else called out Alisae cause that felt horribly like a trap since it's a big pool of circular logic and opinions till people flip.
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What about the dump didn't you like? Please elaborate more.
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Don't like this logic. Just because I agree with someone's logic and point to it as a simple explanation for why I lean one way does not discount my read. Not going to pressure your reads? What reads? You posted once before that. Scum reading this. Still thinking you're Scummy.
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Liking Kop ScumHunting. 157 161 162.
Town lean on Alisae was after his response. He seemed like he was fencing to force conversation his continued fencing makes me feel like he's playing opportunistic scum. The switch to my primary SR and voting feels like diverting. If Mala is scum I would not nesscarily think Alisae is town because of that vote. If Mala isn't scum Alisae is now my strong number two SR.
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Wait I just noticed something sorry I'm clarifying my last post.
Alisae to me is playing anti town which idk how you read very well. zSays he has a scum lean on me. Kop questions doesn't get a straight answer. Aelin pressures, Alisae says he will respond when he knows why yes questioning his playstyle. Kop responds. Alisae says "Fair enough vote mala?"
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I'm getting at that just because I'm pressuring Mala he switch he's his scumlean to a town lean on me and wagons? I mean either way I think we need to wagon one of them and get some info/reads from them.In post 168, Kop wrote:In post 163, Alisae wrote:Kop that's fair.
But sofar I like how he's pressuring Mala. Seems genuine and a town thing to do.
VOTE: Mala
This post stinks of a full 180 turn towards Hawk.
Alisae are you still scumleaning me or is your Mala vote meaning you town lean me now?
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This Aubrey I'm not voting C.Daggers I'm voting Mala. You said them. Just wanted to make sure you knew where I was.In post 169, Aubrey wrote:
UNVOTE: C.Dagger
VOTE: Alisae
:/ Hawk is already voting them, and you know InnocentVillager isn't a big fan of them. Both of ya'll had the same opinion on Hawk.
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I agree. Seems like Aelin is just reading each ISO and throwing a read out there for the sake of not being quiet.
Mala's response to Aelin doesn't really give me anything. It is simply the correct response as far as I can tell. Easily could still be Mafia but since it seems we are off the Mala train and looking into Spade and Aelin can I get a VC before I throw my vote? I thought Spade was sitting on L-2 or so but want to know for sure before switching my vote. My single vote on Mala doesn't seem to be getting us anywhere.
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If it makes you feel better I like this one more than your last one too AlisaeIn post 389, Alisae wrote:
IF MY OLD ONE CAN, AND YOU SAID THIS ONE IS BETTER THEN MY OLD ONE, THEN SHOULDN'T THIS ONE BE ABLE TO COMPETE TOO?In post 387, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I did and it is better but that doesn't mean it can compete with Aubrey'sIn post 384, Alisae wrote:YOU TOLD ME IN PMS THAT THIS ONE WAS BETTER THEN MY LAST ONE!
YOU ARE A LIAR!
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@Aelin
I haven't played with KT but the way he plays seems fine. By being rather loud aggressive and a little over the top it's hard to read him by his posts. So instead try and read his Intentions.
I like that KT is trying to get Mala to talk among other people. Despite Mala's protests that she's town she hasn't given any solid reads pointing us in other directions or why not to think she's scum. Not sure how I read that yet but I too would like to hear more from Mala.-
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Why does it seem like everyone doesn't like this?In post 413, bangthemafia wrote:
This is quite a fast U turn. Scumreading Hawk at the end of page 5 for this though on page 5, I liked Hawk's #116.In post 106, Hawk wrote:
Fair enough. Townread Alisae. I may have tried to move us out of RVS fairly quickly as this is my first forum mafia game and I'm a bit excited to play lol.In post 105, Alisae wrote: You're trying to get us out of RVS. Scum feel super uncomfortable in RVS.
UNVOTE: Alisae
Also agree with Malakittens' #124. In RVS, FoS are flying around everywhere. Scum is not happy with this. They wibe happy to buddy up with some and decrease circle of suspicion. That also gives them some townie points. So at the end of pg 5, LUV is under my FoS, as is Hawk and I soft-townread Malakittens for this
Maybe it's just me and how I'm used to playing Mafia but gauging a reaction from everyone by casting the first "serious" vote is how I was taught to play.
I serioused Alisae to see what happened. LUV unvoted and asked why. Kop unvoted. I responded in a general to get a reaction post. Aelin unvoted. Aubrey responded with thoughts. Mala rolled her eyes and said she'd be back later most importantly Alisae finally responds and actually engages me. I read her as town since most of my scum read was fluff and gut and like that she engages me. Even say this is all soft. I (to myself) Note that CD and Spade did not get involved in this section. So next I casually drop some soft reads and throw CD there to see if he will respond...
Do people not do this during RVS? Quiet town is dead town. If no one has made any scum tells or said anything questionable probe people with even the smallest of scum nudges. I suppose to most it might seem sporadic and scummy but I just wanted to start conversation. I even mention that maybe I was hasty to throw this around since it's my first forum game.
Still as it stands I felt like we got a lot of useful information out of that early RVS transition...
FWIW I'm still leaning Mala and CD as scum. They still haven't provided much content or analysis. I know Mala is working but I don't know why CD hasn't said much.-
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Protest what? My early play? You didnt. First sentence was a Hyperbole.In post 430, Malakittens wrote:Hawk when did I protest?
You protested the read list later which for me was more a soft list and more a way to bring you and CD into the conversation.
Speaking of which still no substantial reads right? Any thing standing out or wanting elaboration on?-
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I agree with KT and would like a response from Alisae.In post 446, KainTepes wrote:
can you explain what you mean by this PLEASE,, what were you trying to set yourself up as LYNCH BAIT and what were you expecting to see??In post 437, Alisae wrote:I was saying contradictory things to see who would push it.
Basicly I was trying to set myself up to be lynch bait.
if you say contradictory things, EVERYONE is going to push it,, how does that differentiate between town and scum?
Right now between her Aelin and Spade I think there maybe one mafia.
Mala still hasn't said anything of substance so I still scumlean/read her but feel like my vote is wasted sitting down there despite KT's second. Can we get some pressure on Spade and or Alisae. Spade is at l-3 so I think this should help some.
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This is true. Let's fix thatIn post 455, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Triggered.In post 450, Alisae wrote:Great now he can claim!
Why do you sound so enthusiastic about this? The game didn't need him to be at L-1 right now, especially when you consider the current case on him and Bang still in catchup mode.
UNVOTE: Spade
I'm not 180ing I just am not comfortable with how quickly that L-1 Happened or how happy Alisae is about this.-
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I agree on the state of Apathy thats why i switched my vote. I should have made it more clear I was putting him at L-2. Still fine with wagoning Spade but that was almost happening too quickly for my tastes and could easily have been followed by a quick hammer if someone misread me and KT. Thanks for the catch Vert.In post 457, Alisae wrote:From what I remember he usually doesn't respond that well to huge fucking wagons on him.
And the majority of this game it seemed like we were in a state of apathy. Unless I'm wrong about this.
Pedit: I agree KT they're not both scum. Alisae voted Spade way earlier and even with his lynch bait play if he was scum he wouldn't want to draw attention to his partner like that.-
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Didn't even think about it being premeditated yeah this feels kinda scummy. Still want pressure tho. Alisae has been hard for me to read so not sure if it's scummy or he's just playing wild...I mean at first I thought the lynch bait play was fine but his play hasn't calmed down or followed that same line of thought since, he's reads really paranoid to me.In post 461, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
This sounds scummy. Feels like your vote for him and your entire case was premeditated.In post 457, Alisae wrote:From what I remember he usually doesn't respond that well to huge fucking wagons on him.
And the majority of this game it seemed like we were in a state of apathy. Unless I'm wrong about this.
I can see the latter but that's mainly because Christmas just passed.
Pedit: No that's terrible Logic Alisae we are so far from finding good reads on playears that a lol hammer here might just flip both our top scum as town and we're back to square one with uncertain voting patterns and low content.-
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OMGUS I really want to vote this -_- but we have Spade at l-2 so let's just remember this conversation for later....In post 473, Alisae wrote:
Oh yeah that's right they do....In post 469, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
No we wouldn't know who. Town derp hammer all the time.In post 465, Alisae wrote:Then gimmie your vote. We can get a better read on him and if someone lolhammers then we know who we're lynchin the next day.-
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Bleh re-reading ISO's I feel like I don't have great reads on anyone.
I wish CD and Kop would post more. Right now I like Spade's reads and reasonings. Mala is more Null for me after rereading her ISO. But that's all I got. I still don't know how to look at Alisae, Aelin, or Spade. Tho I do like some of Spade's reasoning so leaning more Null there.-
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Why are you town reading Kop Alisae?In post 498, Alisae wrote:I don't exactly see how to respond to Kain's post. It just seems like he's giving me information.
My biggest townreads because they seem to genuinely be evaluating hte game? Naaaah. Bang needs mroe time.In post 472, Aubrey wrote:
Then wouldn't Kop or I have been on your suspect list and pushed by you by now? We were the first two to start pushing against you as I remember. And now Bang of course. I just don't understand where this was implemented exactly.In post 451, Alisae wrote:
See who would push me being lynch bait. Because scum really like to push lynch bait.In post 446, KainTepes wrote:
can you explain what you mean by this PLEASE,, what were you trying to set yourself up as LYNCH BAIT and what were you expecting to see??In post 437, Alisae wrote:I was saying contradictory things to see who would push it.
Basicly I was trying to set myself up to be lynch bait.
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This spade.In post 509, KainTepes wrote:SPADE,, respond on MALAKITTENS-
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Can you not do both?In post 511, Spade_Ace wrote:Okay. Thought of doing reads alphabetically. But whatever. Hold on.
Pedit: Sure go ahead. You should-
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I like how you say scum would notice but not say anything when you yourself were unsure if you should bring attention to it....
Anyway nothing to do now... I'll wait for Mala's response before saying my own thoughts on this because I didnt notice so I'd like to hear from her. I'd like to hear more from Alisae too.
VOTE: Alisae
Spade I'd still like to see that full read list if you're working on it. But I'm switching my vote because the more I look at Alisae ISO the more I don't trust it...-
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Is this serious? how do you guys get away with going 5 days without posting anything of substance.... last meaningful post you two had was on christmas. I don't count your short and sweet opinion on Aelin as substance since it was one sentence...
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Uninterested town or hiding scum. Chances are you're town just not seeing much to comment on through all the BS this game. I agree with the IV post from your ISO but never leaned him so hard as to vote him.
Would much rather vote Alisae or Aelin right now I think. I like Spade when he's active despite the bad call on saying something about Mala's soft Vigiclaim. I don't like that that happened. I don't fault him tho. I asked him to elaborate cause I didn't think it would be something like that.
Can we get back to Alisae? I'm less mad at CD if they plan to actually post content which they already have that gives me a better feeling about not scum reading that slot.
PEdit: dually noted Jin I just don't have the time to read into people's metas or I would. Plus its kinda fun trying to blind read you guys. Especially since ya'll have to blind read me.-
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Why do you think Spade is scum? In 529 you say want to hear more from his reads but don't like him. Here you say he is scum. To me this is WIFOM. Any player can put thought and effort into their reads and produce thoughtful effort filled content. It does not make them Scum or Town. So what part of his reasonings do you think is scummy. I know what parts I think are scummy but I want to know what you think is scummy.-
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514 is a better reference and I messed up the code again with a space anyway lol
What are your opinions on it? You Scumlean Aelin, are your top two scum Spade and Aelin? If so isn't it disconcerting that Spade is scumming Aelin and Aelin doesn't seem happy with Spade and is scumleaning him?-
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I find your lack of stating obvious things in hypothetical world's irritating... We don't know if they're both scum but if I'm to believe that they are (following whatever line of thinking you're on) Then why are they scum reading each other so hard D1??In post 554, Alisae wrote:Yeah the scum buddy doesn't seem happy that the other one is scumreading them.-
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Post edit in pink. I left that out of my original post some how.In post 556, Alisae wrote:
To distance each other?In post 555, Hawk wrote:
I find your lack of statingIn post 554, Alisae wrote:Yeah the scum buddy doesn't seem happy that the other one is scumreading them.anything butobvious things in hypothetical world's irritating... We don't know if they're both scum but if I'm to believe that they are (following whatever line of thinking you're on) Then why are they scum reading each other so hard D1??
Okay I can see that being a possibility, but that doesn't seem like what's going on here. Assume with me for a second. If one of them isn't Scum who is not Scum?-
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I do not read them as town. I think of the two Aelin is more likely town but there are things she's posted recently that really bother me.In post 558, Alisae wrote:Basicly you think I'm tunneling?
Kay.
Let me ask you this then, do you read them as town? If so, who and why?
I think Aelin's reads are forced and they weren't given any until they were asked. They were moreso asking for people's stances on things and they didn't really make any progress themselves. I already explained my Spade read.
If anyone seems to be town out of the two is Aelin, and I am not explaining why.
528, 526, 416, 397 In particular bother me a lot
Let me explain
528 Mala's reasoning actually to me makes pretty good sense. Spade seems to be role fishing a bit here, and despite what he was saying this entire post feels like a distraction as to what was originally asked of him.
416 and 397 I don't think Aubrey is scum and I'm not sure I see any town reasoning behind these accusations.
I don't think you're tunneling Alisae quite the opposite I feel like you played kinda oppurtunistically and haven't been really solid on your reads.
@UZI why did you Unvote Spade?
pedit: I agree I think distancing is a poor case for early game before any flips have happened.-
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I town read you after the Breadcrumb post was brought up. I don't think youre scum for that. Same as UZI. I think I mentioned saying I didn't notice it before so it was new information I missed when I looked at your ISO.In post 584, Malakittens wrote:What changed about me? You been scum reading me majority of the game
KT I haven't been buddying up to you I just agreed with a lot of what you were saying. Same with Uzi and Aubrey... I don't really like how you're throwing scumreads around like you're Oprah.
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Also KT I feel like we need to address you because you have flipped your vote between Spade Mala and now me Kop. While my vote on you probably seems oppurtunistic Kop voted you and I have been Null reading you most of the game... You kept pressuring Mala even after her wagon fizzled. You let up off of Spade to Vote Mala after spades read which is super oppurtunistically of Spade anyway since he was going alphabetically he just skips me and Kop and goes for his Mala read? Nice Scum play buddy. Yeah I don't like this KT. Explain why you were scum reading Mala and now why you're so fickle with your vote as to jump to me and Kop for voting you when we don't think Mala is scum...-
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One you can't "prove" your town unless you're claiming PR. Second my vote was not that Oppurtunistic. If anything your votes are oppurtunistic and very sporadic.In post 596, KainTepes wrote:last game pissed me off SO MUCH because nobody listened to me, but from that i found out something SPECIAL,,
which is that ONLY SCUM EVER VOTES FOR ME,, because they find me an EASY LYNCH........ see AELIN, remember the VANILLISH game, only SCUM voted for me (the only town who voted for me was the IC who was mentally challenged and got tricked by scum),,
that is why i am SO SURE that it is HAWK and KOP...... vote them with me, AELIN. I am TOWN and i can prove it
401 You vote for Mala here cause she is posturing? Which by your definition I don't think she is I think she is just not choosing to vote because while what she is questioning is suspicious it's not nesscarily scummy and I can see her playing her vote more reserved here.
448 yay let's wagon Spade cause Spade is always scum and isn't playing different from his other games /s. No each game is different while you can from game to game find people's meta people's metas also change as they develop as a player. This is an oppurtunistic vote.
578 This post is most concerning. Spade points out breadcrumbs. Mala responds. Most of us are fine with null or town leaning Mala but you call scum scum scum and lay up pressure off Spade now? why??
582 584 and now we're to gut lynch turn votes because me and Kop think youre acting pretty scummy. This is a very panic'd scum reaction to meat, your exasperated use of caps lock aside.
Pedit: There is nothing you can post that will tell you that I am scum because I know my PM is green -_-;;
PpEdit: God damn Kain calm the fuck down and stop flip flopping your vote lol-
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I'm Scumreading you because you're acting Scummy as fuck I had a null town lean on you up till you voted Mala after spade posted his read which didn't make a damn bit of sense and was oppurtunistic timing to push back to Mala.In post 612, KainTepes wrote:Though I dont think Hawk is town,, he is voting me (so he must scumread me) but he's talking to me like he's sure I'm town,, and of course he's sure i'm town because he is scum and I'm not
Hawk+Alisae scumteam confirmed
I'm talking to you like you're town because before that you had been playing it pretty townish. But before I can even go to question why you're back on Mala you flip to Kop for his change in vote and then flip on me for my vote change declare me and Alisae Scum? what about Kop he's still voting you and Spade is still very sus to me as well!?!?!
PEdit: OMGUS my votes staying here till something else changes or we get a claim for KT and an explanation cause this all screams role fishing and scum...-
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Important information left out of this post.In post 627, KainTepes wrote:anyway, if anyone is too tired to read everything,, this is a summary
my vote is not moving from alisae, evidence is:
1. fake "lynchbait" reaction test smelt like scum justifying scummy behavior by "ITS A REACTION TEST, GAIZ"
2. scumslip about knowing rolecops (when the only role cop is a mafia role cop, and when I questioned it he said "There's a backup role cop", but backup role cop for town doesn't count because the backup is just a normal townie until the scum role cop is dead)
3. trying to push my mislynch
4. role fishing
KT switches to Mala first after Spades read.
KT then switches vote to me and Kop respectively for voting him because of the oppurtunistic vote on Mala.
KT then states he can prove I am scum but won't post.
KT then responds to Alisae about Role cops and creates a fake scum slip because of open information.
It is known that role cop and backup role cop exist. KT makes an and sumptuous of Alisae's questioning and creates a fake scum slip to hide any real scumslip. Also still has not presented information pertaining to how he knows I'm Scum. (Hint: There is none cause I'm Town)-
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Bro I promise I totally missed that breadcrumb. Kop voted you I didn't like the timing of your flip to Mala. Since I'm getting shot tonight apparently which will flip green here's my read list.In post 667, KainTepes wrote:
yeah i thought people could pick that up earlierIn post 664, Aubrey wrote:Was pretty obvious he was a power role seeing as he was so insistent about not claiming until L1, and being so sure he wouldn't get lynched.
I actually suspect that scum is playing dumb and pretending not to have picked that up,, so i am SCUMREADING everyone who pretended not to notice that i was not so subtly crumbing
that includes Alisae and also includes Hawk
Town
KT
Aubrey
Bang
Kop
Uzi
Null
IV
CD
Mala
Scum
Spade
Alisae
Aelin
Aelin a just now pointing fingers and Spade and Alisae instead of me and Alisae scumtells hard. This will read bad while ya'll think I'm Scum but when I flip it'll read as Aelin scum.
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