Open 648: Ari's Donner Party Mafia! Game Over! :O

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Majiffy

Hi!!!!!

Hello!

[Majiffy]

ZzZzZz

CryWolf -> EpicMafia -> Several forums -> MS -> More forums
Town. But I am a more adept scum player.
Blue.

[Majiffy]

*grammar

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[Majiffy]

Orange is cool too

I hear it's the new black

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Io

*grammar

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[Majiffy]

Dunnstral, Farcry town

Would still like to lynch Io but will move to Frankly if the wagon doesn't kick up.

[Majiffy]

Orange is cool too

I hear it's the new black

I hope you're proud of yourself.

Inwardly smiling.

Dunnstral, Farcry town

Would still like to lynch Io but will move to Frankly if the wagon doesn't kick up.

This seems a bit more apathetic than what I'm used to from you. Not a fan.

What you're used to from me?

[Majiffy]

Aggression.
Oomph.
Passion.

Here, you just seem kind of floaty and whatever about things. It bothers me.

You want that I can tell you the offsite I play on

I am on a thin rope here.

[Majiffy]

Aggression.
Oomph.
Passion.

Here, you just seem kind of floaty and whatever about things. It bothers me.

You want that I can tell you the offsite I play on

I am on a thin rope here.

Is it still mindromp?

Yes

[Majiffy]

Are we just gunnar let Io skirt here

[Majiffy]

Gunna

[Majiffy]

Elaborate on a scum read on page 5 lol

[Majiffy]

Elaborate on a scum read on page 5 lol

Posts like this are not endearing, for any reason.
VOTE: majiffy

Neither is asking people to generate content out of nothing.

[Majiffy]

Oh wait hold on I know how this works


Shinobi please elaborate on your read for me thanks

[Majiffy]

Oh wait hold on I know how this works

Shinobi please elaborate on your read for me thanks

I feel like you've been relatively lackluster thus far - your Io push feels half-hearted and I'm not happy with you taking a potshot at me based on the fact that I'm asking people to explain things.

Oh no a half-hearted push on someone who has posted 4 times

Say it isn't so

[Majiffy]

UNVOTE: Io

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Franky

[Majiffy]

Well there's an SK so I think she's saying not 3P

[Majiffy]

Why there it's a new page in like 5 posts

[Majiffy]

Lane0168 Replaces Franky, Effective Immediately!

Thank you for your swift response, Lane!

Don't really have time to catch up, anyone know why this happened?

[Majiffy]

Back home. I'll try to catch up when I get home from work.

[Majiffy]

Thanks

Driving to WI from NY sucks balls

[Majiffy]

UNVOTE: Lane

[Majiffy]

Oh please. Stupid push. If I recalled correctly, only gameplay votes on you.

EVERYBODY STOPS TALKING NOW AND WAIT FOR MAJIFFY TO TALK!

God if only.

[Majiffy]

Bins is that the girl from Phoenix Wright

it is isn't it




Game-wise Majiffy just now unvoting Lane is weird

He claimed after I left.

[Majiffy]

{Shinobi, Cy, Gameplay}, {Bins, Io}
My lynch pools. First is preferred.

[Majiffy]

I'm caught up.

Can we get an updated VC?

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Shinobi

[Majiffy]

{Shinobi, Cy, Gameplay}, {Bins, Io}
My lynch pools. First is preferred.

Why?

I think Cy/gameplay are partners, look at when Realeo was making the meta case and gameplay was all excited but he just let the case get dropped and hasn't really been pushing Cywagon. He's just sitting comfy there as a distancing vote.

Shinobi looks like SK

Bins could be SK if I'm wrong about Shinobi

Io I was uncomfortable with at the beginning but then their reads looked OK and they resumed flying under the radar so it's an outside chance.

[Majiffy]

Bet you are

[Majiffy]

Can we lynch Shinobi? I wanna lynch Shinobi.

[Majiffy]

Or we could just keep lynching low hanging fruit

[Majiffy]

Help help my eyes got stuck rolling them into the back of my head

[Majiffy]

Doesn't seem to be playing for town. Looks indie, thus SK in this setup.

[Majiffy]

I'll do something more elaborate when I'm not on my phone at work. So in like 3-4 hrs

[Majiffy]

"Doesn't seem to be playing for town"

Solid reasoning


You pretty much have no reasoning to assume he'd be sk over mafia either




OK

Apparently you aren't reading



OK

[Majiffy]

Got caught up in all the good DNC speakers last night. Probably will tonight too we'll see who's on the docket. I'll try to get to this though.

[Majiffy]

Cool.
I'm good with voting Alpaca if I have to tbh - I still don't think highly of him and I'm kinda cool with seeing him go. The only reason I haven't switched is because I think that Majiffy is the more likely serial killer between the two of them.

Shinobi continues his string of being ok with lynches and not giving his own opinions with no conviction. Going with the flow one again

Then vote him

[Majiffy]

Okay I've got time now

[Majiffy]

Spoiler: Shinobi Case

Early on sheeps a policy/lurker read for an easy vote sit. Prods numerous players and while getting little-to-nothing in return, fails to follow up with a vote.

And while we're at it, despite all his questioning and prodding, here we are at his second vote and he has yet to do anything more than passing commentary on other players' reads. He doesn't have legitimate reads of his own.

What's his reason for voting? Looks like policy, again. Surprising!

This post is funny, because at 281 posts in the game he has yet to really out any reads at all. The closest thing you can call a scumread is his policy vote on me that he explains in his own words as distrust. That doesn't even sound like a scumread.

More hypocrisy. Still has added nothing of value but passing commentary.

I don't even know why he moved his vote

Oh this. Which apparently wasn't even a real thing.

So now we're 525 posts in and he still hasn't contributed anything despite doing a whole lot of looking busy and active. Guess who does that?

Still going on about lane, despite having taken his vote off???

Oh we're back to voting me. For being inactive/inattentive when I was V/LA.
So... policy again!

Reinforces policy argument. Clearly not interested in actually looking for scum, only to score mislynches.

And again. And again. Are you gonna post anything else? Nope guess not. And this time he even cites a possible town meta that he's voting me for.

Voting me for a potential town meta

. Just so we're clear here.

Holy shit an actual reads post 650 posts in.
Paraphrased;
"Bins is scum because she's superficial and doing nothing", "Farside has awkward interactions like [example]", "Majiffy is a reliable third [policy] so I'm gonna keep my vote there"

Why would you keep your vote on your weakest read

Finally starts to do things after getting pressured. That's pretty null. Interestingly denies the need to back up policy voting me for reasons he also previously mentioned could be town meta.

Just to remind people,

he's policy voting me for something that could be town meta. And also refusing to provide proof for his arguments.

Ok moving on

Let's see what Majiffy has to offer. Anyone know how many votes? [Doesn't unvote]

#L-O-L_VOTESIT!

Throwin' dat shade from the sidelines, back to doing nothing when they're not under pressure.

"Oh I'm pretty much cool with lynching anyone even though I have stated 3 scumreads and this person is not one of them" [About the popular wagon at the time]

TL;DR Shinobi has sidelined themselves the whole game spending more time LOOKING like they're doing things and no time ACTUALLY doing things. Voting is inconsistent with reads, doesn't follow a town narrative, and looks like they're willing to vote anyone.

Does anyone know if Shinobi has any town reads? I don't recall even seeing one in the ISO. Not one.


Vote Shinobi folks. This is scumbo dumbo.

[Majiffy]

Who's on right now that I can shout at and demean as a human being until they vote Shinobi

[Majiffy]

Good hold on let me get into character

[Majiffy]

*ahem*

UNVOTE:
VOTE: good morning

I'm on majiffy

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? DID YOU NOT SEE MY CASE ON SHINOBI? PUT YOUR VOTE BACK WHERE IT BELONGS.

STOP TRYING TO SIDELINE A WAGON ON SCUM WITH SOME SHITTY VOTE NO ONE ELSE IS INTERESTED IN.



And that's about as much as I'm allowed these days. Sorry, the glory of Majiffy rages are long gone.

[Majiffy]

Okay

Someone convince me that scum would come in and scumread both Far and I

Why wouldn't they? Especially scumreads they haven't really pushed, much less voted.

I gave a Shinobi case. Go read it and place your vote there. Thanks.

[Majiffy]

Okay seriously though lane please do not vote-park a single-vote wagon with 3 competitive wagons less than 24 hours out from deadline would be great.

[Majiffy]

Okay

Someone convince me that scum would come in and scumread both Far and I

He's scum with Dunn. Scumread on you is chainsaw-esque, just without the vote to back it. Also note he said "starting to" which isn't a definitive statement.

Then why aren't you voting him

[Majiffy]

Ask Lane a question -> Lane disappears
Ask Bins a question -> Bins disappears
Ask JaeReed a question -> JaeReed disappears


What the fuck is wrong with you people

[Majiffy]

Shinobi at L-2. Next vote should announce L-1, etc etc

[Majiffy]

Well it's not wrong

[Majiffy]

Spoiler: Shinobi Case

Early on sheeps a policy/lurker read for an easy vote sit. Prods numerous players and while getting little-to-nothing in return, fails to follow up with a vote.

And while we're at it, despite all his questioning and prodding, here we are at his second vote and he has yet to do anything more than passing commentary on other players' reads. He doesn't have legitimate reads of his own.

What's his reason for voting? Looks like policy, again. Surprising!

This post is funny, because at 281 posts in the game he has yet to really out any reads at all. The closest thing you can call a scumread is his policy vote on me that he explains in his own words as distrust. That doesn't even sound like a scumread.

More hypocrisy. Still has added nothing of value but passing commentary.

I don't even know why he moved his vote

Oh this. Which apparently wasn't even a real thing.

So now we're 525 posts in and he still hasn't contributed anything despite doing a whole lot of looking busy and active. Guess who does that?

Still going on about lane, despite having taken his vote off???

Oh we're back to voting me. For being inactive/inattentive when I was V/LA.
So... policy again!

Reinforces policy argument. Clearly not interested in actually looking for scum, only to score mislynches.

And again. And again. Are you gonna post anything else? Nope guess not. And this time he even cites a possible town meta that he's voting me for.

Voting me for a potential town meta

. Just so we're clear here.

Holy shit an actual reads post 650 posts in.
Paraphrased;
"Bins is scum because she's superficial and doing nothing", "Farside has awkward interactions like [example]", "Majiffy is a reliable third [policy] so I'm gonna keep my vote there"

Why would you keep your vote on your weakest read

Finally starts to do things after getting pressured. That's pretty null. Interestingly denies the need to back up policy voting me for reasons he also previously mentioned could be town meta.

Just to remind people,

he's policy voting me for something that could be town meta. And also refusing to provide proof for his arguments.

Ok moving on

Let's see what Majiffy has to offer. Anyone know how many votes? [Doesn't unvote]

#L-O-L_VOTESIT!

Throwin' dat shade from the sidelines, back to doing nothing when they're not under pressure.

"Oh I'm pretty much cool with lynching anyone even though I have stated 3 scumreads and this person is not one of them" [About the popular wagon at the time]

TL;DR Shinobi has sidelined themselves the whole game spending more time LOOKING like they're doing things and no time ACTUALLY doing things. Voting is inconsistent with reads, doesn't follow a town narrative, and looks like they're willing to vote anyone.

Does anyone know if Shinobi has any town reads? I don't recall even seeing one in the ISO. Not one.


Vote Shinobi folks. This is scumbo dumbo.

I wasn't voting you for town meta - people have been citing you as possible town because you're apathetic and not one person has provided the necessary justification for that being the case. This isn't me voting you for town meta - this is me voting you for playing like an apathetic shitter and how you ever got me voting you for doing things that make you town is a gross misrepresentation of why I've been thinking that you're scum. This whole "policy" narrative is so much garbage when you've done nothing but talk about irrelevancies and afk all game and somehow that excludes you from being considered a lynch target. You don't get to act like being inattentive and useless is fine when you're fucking laughing at people for trying to progress the gamestate.

Your posts talking about me talking about lane are also gross misrepresentations of what I've been doing. Realeo was questioning me at the time and was talking about lane, and now I'm the one who won't let it go? How does that work, exactly?
Your points on me votesitting were garbage when even other players acknowledged that your catchup was mediocre.

The rest of your points are incredibly nitpicky but I'm perfectly willing to tear them apart as well if you're so inclined to keep this little fight going.

I think you're intentionally obfuscating my point here. You're voting me *for the same reasons* as *proposed town meta*. And for what it's worth, your reason for voting me isn't valid either. Being V/LA is not apathy. It's unavailability.

Please show me a single instance of me laughing at people for trying to progress the gamestate.

And good luck dismantling my case when you couldn't even resist riddling your entire retort with so much ad hom I can't discern your real arguments.

[Majiffy]

if i vote good morning will people sheep me because im a voice of reason in these dark times

I read this as dank times.

I need to stop going on Imgur.

[Majiffy]

No I'm not - I'm voting you for being apathetic and bad.
You are not apathetic and bad.
I have yet to see you even

once

be apathetic and bad.

So it's a policy lynch. Great

Well I'm no longer V/LA, no longer apathetic and bad. Clearly participating. Fuck off, yeah?

Oh right, you can't. You're locked into chasing this BW now.

People keep saying that you can be apathetic as town and nobody has explained it or told me why I should believe it, which is literal dick unless every single one of them is scum.

And since that's not possible, shit they must not be lying huh

You were posting mediocre one-liners well before you went V/LA, and iirc you were only V/LA for what I assumed was a day since you didn't even say anything in thread.

I was V/LA from Thursday night to Monday evening.

Your post of laughing at me was on, like, page 5 or something. I talked about it forever ago and you didn't debunk it then either.

Oh right when I laughed at you for having unrealistic expectations about the gamestate yes

Tell me more about making look-good-do-nothing posts are advancing the gamestate

I fail to see how ad hominem is relevant in any case when I've just listed things you've done and how I don't like them.

They're not relevant, that's the point!

I've just refuted all your arguments. You can do something productive now. It's only like 1000 posts into this game. I'd like to see you play.

[Majiffy]

UNVOTE:
I wish you didn't have to wait all the way until two days before deadline to do towny stuff.
Now I'm in this horribly awkward position and I have to find someone else to lynch.

Uh I'm sorry I had to DJ my cousin's wedding and there were two political conventions on either side of it?

This is a game, not a job. Sometimes other things are more important than your whining.

[Majiffy]

Speaking of braincells I can feel a few dying right now

[Majiffy]

You just said you're kind of ok with the Shinobi case then questioned the wagon are you kidding me

[Majiffy]

Like I'm the only one who has presented a comprehensive case so if you want another wagon stop fencing and make a case

[Majiffy]

Why does shinobi have 5 votes?

Because he's not fucking town do the damn reading

[Majiffy]

Fuckin bitching cause I want on read out of goodmorning that isn't coming. Once again, uncc'd pr is NOT a fuckin read

And her trying to discredit me doesn't look good for a town gm

To be fair, it's a complete non-issue you're turning into an issue and it's really annoying

Especially when we could be talking about HOW SCUM SHINOBI IS

[Majiffy]

Because he is scum.
Have you read the "case" he made.
I use the word case very loosely here.

Are you talking about my case because you have been really vague every time you mention cases lately

[Majiffy]

26 hours remain people voting GM please either make a comprehensive case or find your vote on either Alpaca or Shinobi
Alpaca your vote is useless and old I don't know what you're doing vote Shinobi.

[Majiffy]

Some of those words processed. Maybe it's because I have to go poop.

Anyway I'm heading out for the night, I might drunkpost later.

[Majiffy]

Everyones trying to lynch shinobi for "being a mafia partner to all these other unflipped guys"

This also has nothing to do with my case on him

two people out of 6.

This also has nothing to do with my case on him

[Majiffy]

lol @ being L-1.

You people are a bunch of clowns.

Resigned scum

[Majiffy]

Shinobi (5): Majiffy 833, Io 900, Farside22 961, JaeReed 985, Lane0168 987, AlpacaAlpaca 1117
AlpacaAlpaca (5): GoodMorning 876, Realeo 921, Dunnstral 1027, Shinobi 1043, Bins 1136
GoodMorning (1): Gameplay506 1022

Not Voting (0): Not a soul! =D

Gameplay you can vote Alpaca and the lynch on Shinobi will go through as per OP lynch rules or you can lynch Shinobi the illusion of choice is yours.

lol @ being L-1.

You people are a bunch of clowns.

Resigned scum

Meaningless buzzwords.

Buzzwording defense, cute. You know buzzword is a buzzword right?

[Majiffy]

Uh ok enjoy your rope Shinobi

[Majiffy]

Guys I don't want to frighten you but everyone voting Shinobi is a buzzwording scum.

Except the uncc'ed PR, we don't know why they're voting obvtown Shinobi.

[Majiffy]

I still think he's scum claiming this late so he can survive the night.

This.

I'm not unvoting.

[Majiffy]

lol @ being L-1.

You people are a bunch of clowns.

Resigned scum

This is not the response of a town PR at L-1 less than 24 hours out from deadline.

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Gameplay

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Goodmorning

[Majiffy]

Because there was a wagon on goodmorning, my preference clearly wasn't happening.

VOTE: Gameplay

[Majiffy]

No I think Gameplay is the other scum.

[Majiffy]

Have fun.

[Majiffy]

Because there was a wagon on goodmorning, my preference clearly wasn't happening.

VOTE: Gameplay

You're preference clearly wasn't happening by post 11 of day two, so you just gave up on it cause there was 3 votes in goodmorning? Why are you so quick to give up?

Why are you voting Gameplay?

GM was the other scumread with Gameplay it's like you aren't even reading my posts.

[Majiffy]

My votes today are Maji/Alpaca and maybe just maybe lo just because she is the other one I am not sure on.

Well you're voting the wrong one.

[Majiffy]

One more question majiffy. Knowing there was much more pressure on the gm spot end of day 1. And thinking they were partners, why didn't you start voting the person who was obviously more widely scumread?

Gameplay was on my mind more.

Replacements do that.

[Majiffy]

Looks like dodging to five an actual read yep

Kindly pull your head out of your ass and get a read on scum.

[Majiffy]

VOTE: alpaca

really uncertain but his reaction was worse than majiffys

Really? I got the opposite impression. Hence the intent to hammer

Shhh it's ok to be painfully wrong lane.

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Alpaca

Very much willing to get back on gameplan if we could have that. I much prefer to lynch there. G'day

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Alpaca

Very much willing to get back on gameplan if we could have that. I much prefer to lynch there. G'day

*Gameplay, phone must have autocorrected on me.

[Majiffy]

Maj, how are you feeling about lo lately? You asked early if we are going to just let her skirt by. And we have. I'm pretty sure she killed dunn

There's a real good chance you're right here but I can't say for sure

[Majiffy]

Hammer already dropped Bins were in twilight

[Majiffy]

Posting from my phone mostly, wasn't paying close attention. I thought we were still at 5 to lynch.

[Majiffy]

Posting from my phone mostly, wasn't paying close attention. I thought we were still at 5 to lynch.

Oh you did? That's even more confusing. Wouldn't that make you more likely to believe there wasn't a lynch? Considering the fake hammer would be 4 votes, but actually was only 3? How does thinking it takes 5 to lynch make you more likely to believe it was a lynch, with 4(3) votes?

They said it was hammer. I scrolled up and looked, 4 to lynch.

[Majiffy]

Everything about this whole scenario is fucking dumb.

The fake hammer was dumb. This conversation is dumb. None of this gets us anything.

VOTE: Gameplay

Can we just lynch scum please

[Majiffy]

I've tunneled buddies so hard they've replaced out.

[Majiffy]

A+ argument lets do it again sometime

[Majiffy]

Uh no it's ideal scum play.

Cy was scummy from the get-go, bus hard, bus often.

[Majiffy]

A+ argument lets do it again sometime

[Majiffy]

I've tunneled buddies so hard they've replaced out.

Clarification

cy replaces out of all game that he played, not only this game. Unless you're saying that he was tunneled on all those games.

Irrelevant to the argument, my point that gp bussed cy/gm stands

[Majiffy]

Uh no it's ideal scum play.

Cy was scummy from the get-go, bus hard, bus often.

So why can't he have caught scum? Why do you believe he bussed. Then got off the wagon when no one was feeling is which is what town would do. Then started right back up again day 2? What makes you mean towards bussing and not good job town?

He never really argued for it. His *actions* are right but his *words* don't fit the bill. His votes are ones of convenience, not conviction. He

knew

he was scum and

knew

that was the right place to have his vote, but never felt the burning passion to get that person lynched.

[Majiffy]

Maj, how are you feeling about lo lately? You asked early if we are going to just let her skirt by. And we have. I'm pretty sure she killed dunn

I personally have been trying to insert Io's name in my argument for scum/sk, but I kinda fail to find the proof.

Io was my outside shot at SK if Shinobi flipped town.

And a better SK read has not bloomed so I'm good with that.

[Majiffy]

If I were SK I'd gun for the mafia ASAP, the sooner you get them down to the same level as you the better.

[Majiffy]

Of course I'm not sure why Lane has been allowed to persist for so long but that's another argument entirely.

[Majiffy]

That requires a whole lot of assumptions I'm not willing to agree on.

[Majiffy]

Oh good at least I'm not the only one that understands what I'm saying here.

[Majiffy]

See I think lynchbait opportunities should be saved for late-game. You do it early and people aren't likely to fall for it again.

[Majiffy]

You should always try and mislynch as scum with the exception that at some point in multiball you will want to lynch or kill your opponent.
Just not day 1-2 or night 1.
I get the idea of hiding a dead mafia but it would be very likely all Mafia and vig are dead if there is only 1 kill day 2 and 3 so killing Mafia night 1 only works for like 2 day phases.

... We're talking about 1 dead mafia not all dead mafia please do try and read a little before you click submit

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Io

Lets just do this today if you people won't vote Gameplay

[Majiffy]

Prove a negative? Ok buddy I'll get right on that

[Majiffy]

I think Cy/gameplay are partners, look at when Realeo was making the meta case and gameplay was all excited but he just let the case get dropped and hasn't really been pushing Cywagon. He's just sitting comfy there as a distancing vote.

Probably more in my ISO but I'm on my phone and that's the first result to pop up

[Majiffy]

The only misrep is you claiming it was a push

[Majiffy]

I highly doubt Dunn was scum.

[Majiffy]

*whistles a tune*

[Majiffy]

The fuck is that

[Majiffy]

ow my balls

[Majiffy]

Ow my balls lol

I'm Jerry Smith, and I love sucking big, sweaty [bleep] and licking disgusting furry testicle sacks

[Majiffy]

I'm vig but whatever lynch gameplay next.

Didn't kill early on because there were 2 killing roles involved. That's how I knew dunn wasn't a town kill.

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Majiffy

[Majiffy]

Yeah I was well fucked when SK flipped. My only chance to squeak out a win there would be if my kill on gameplay went through and we lynched someone else lane had blocked.

Damn shame too cuz we started off well with the outted RB and a dead dietician, then killed vig n1

Why the fuck didn't the SK kill RB. Goddamn

[Majiffy]

Mumble grumble grumble.

[Majiffy]

Can only skip being RBed once

[Majiffy]

Can only skip being RBed once

And an outted clear is an outted clear.

[Majiffy]

Can only skip being RBed once

And an outted clear is an outted clear.

[Majiffy]

Can only skip being RBed once

And an outted clear is an outted clear.

[Majiffy]

Woo quadposting like a boss