Open 648: Ari's Donner Party Mafia! Game Over! :O

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VOTE: Majiffy

Hi!!!!!

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All of u idgaf

Someone is cranky today.

Vote:cytheflyguy

Someone trying too hard.

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Oh your the annoying player in the game.
Joy

unvote

I joined mafia so long ago I don't remember how I started or why.
I enjoy playing town. Sometimes I enjoy playing scum. It varies from month to month.
Favorite color is purple

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And btw it's "you're"

A Grammer police too.

Man you are going to hate me.

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*grammar

dozensofus.gif

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Good day. I'm impressed that I entered the RVS at page 2. Usually like page 5?

And do people still do RQS today? I thought RVS is the old king in the gang.

Rvs still the most popular.
I enjoy rqs more but so few do it I usually just vote.

My first impression scum is {cytheflyguy,Franky}

Accuracy level : ????

Why franky?

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My first impression scum is {cytheflyguy,Franky}

Accuracy level : ????

Why franky?

I'm just picking two names who I feel their opening feel awkward.

You don't ask why cy? Do you also scumread cy?

I found cy's opening scummy and awkward. That was why I voted him.
Currently I see that his posting is pretty much his personality so I unvoted him.

Vote: Franky

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game: Why are you being a douche?

Alpha: Thoughts thus far?

Franky: Why are you following gameplay?

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Not really, I'm not the one who displayed certainty. I don't actually even need to justify myself, but Dunnstral does. If you lot don't see that, you should review your way of looking at the game.

The attitude from dunnstral is pretty common.
Why do you think it matters?

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@far: Let me put it this way. The only possible way you will get any answers to any questions about this topic out of me is if you get them out of Dunnstral first.

Good luck with that.

Vote: alpaca

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Dunnstral, Farcry town

Would still like to lynch Io but will move to Frankly if the wagon doesn't kick up.

I can't imagine scum with holding comments this many times.
Alpaca reads as blending into the crowd for me.

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Shinobi is a town read.
I can sleep happy tonight.

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Shinobi is a town read.

Why?

He's pushing things and scum hunting.
Is he a scum read of yours?

I dislike farside for some reason. Can't tell what tho.

I don't think you like anyone this game.
Are you the sk?
I'm making a bet you are.
I don't expect a response but I wanted it out there if I'm right.

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And I have a feeling you're scum so we're even

I'm not and I don't believe you feel that way.
It's OK though, you keep being the grumpy man.

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Are we just gunnar let Io skirt here

I have one vote on alpaca who is doing the same.
I'm good with that.

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Are we just gunnar let Io skirt here

I have one vote on alpaca who is doing the same.
I'm good with that.

Pretty sure Alpaca does that as town regardless

links?

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I looked through the links and I think alpaca from what I saw of his town and scum games will be the one I wait to see on this game.

Realeo: Why Shinobi?

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To people who are fosing Alpaca because "he's bleding into the crowd", can anyone explain it?

By the time the reasoning is shot at 72, Aplaca only posted twice. How do you call someone "blending into the crowd" with just two posts?

That's was me and it was this post that caught my attention.

What do you have to share Franky?

It came off awkward and forced.

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{Io, Franky, cytheflyguy, Farside, Shinobi}
{gameplay, Majiffy}
{Bins}
{Realeo, Alpaca}
{Dunnstral}

6. (no change)

{Io, Franky, cytheflyguy, Farside, Shinobi, gameplay}
{Majiffy}
{Bins}
{Realeo, Alpaca}
{Dunnstral}

7.

Why is majiffy so high on the list?
I have a slight scum read on him.

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Btw shinobi can you give us your reads ty
Pedit: I don't get it aswell

Tbf I'm not scum reading dun and lo is pretty quiet too.

I'm leaning more toward lo as possible sk with majiffy/alpaca scum team.

It's nice to see bins agree with me.
Hi bins!

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The Dunn case seems like a stretch tome.

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Wut why is Dunn Sk again

His reaction is scummy but I reckon that if he's a mafia--he will be more relaxed.

Why he will be more relaxed as mafia? Psychology dictates that having a companion--like scum partner--helps to calm yourself because you know someone have your back.

Dunnstrall was being retaliated by JR, Bins and forsaken by me. No one has his back.

Dunnstrall town? Maybe. Dunnstral SK? Maybe. Dunnstral mafia? I don't reckon.

I will move my vote to Dunn after Shinobi gives the readlist.

Fos

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I kinda confused at people who fos me due to that post. I told previously that I vote Shinobi to accelerate Shinobi's conclusion. I don't fos him. The moment he comes to a conclusion, I don't need to vote him any longer and I can go to the next suspect in the line.

Anyway if somebody comes off with a better reason for dunnscum than "his arguments are bad" please share it. Cus right now your reasoning is just that guys.

This was why I fos.
Also it apparently doesn't matter what shin says, the vote will be moving, which means his vote is worthless as is.

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I maybe switching to Franky since he'said been around the site but not responding.
I noted he logged into today

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On a side note:

I maybe switching to Franky since he'said been around the site but not responding.
I noted he logged into today

Did this actually happen? When?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/memberlist.p ... le&u=28038

I see it under my time zone as Wednesday morning.

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Farside, before I go around moving my vote from people I don't trust to other people I don't trust, talk to me about bins.
What do you think of her?

second post I was town reading her. The rest post kind of made my eyebrow raise a bit.
Right now null.

Do you believe his vote on me was anything more than OMGUS?

Do you think me "OMGUS" voting makes me more likely to be mafia?

It doesn't and you're just trying to throw shade, this isn't a town perspective

VOTE: Jaereed

I like this vote!

VOTE: Jaereed

Bins if you don't talk about me/Jaereed on me/franky ur getting tunneled

go away


you and jaebae are null to nulltown like the rest of that group for now



yes i have too many townreads
dw they always sort themself out

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READS!

Oh my, this is a game with an SK! I almost forgot to put that in my reads!

Town:

AlpacaAlpaca-Super strong town read. Posts like 151 and 287 show really good, pro town questioning.
Dunnstral-Independent thinker. Makes logical pushes but does not tunnel.
Farside-See above but less tunneling.pushing xDD
Io-Borderline null, but makes solid paragraphs that I respect.
Majiffy-Another borderline town. I don't understand the scum read some people have on him?
Realeo-I have vibes. Idk good or bad. For now I'm going with good.
Shinobi-I like his posting and I'd like to know scum reads on him too?


Scum:

gameplay-6 268 Really really...bad

Frankie-Seems very isolated from town, but looks to confident to be SK

SK:

JaeReed-13 posts and 7 of them are unexplained reads. Looks like trying to be town without providing content.

Null:

Bins-Really want to see more from. Tbh borderline scum.

Guys are you serious? This is positioning at its worst like cmon.
He is scum look at his reads he pulls reads out of his ass. He doesn't know who to point as scum that is why he is pointing Frankie who is being pushed by almost half the players, me because I am obv pushing Cy and jae on some fake arguments that he doesn't explain his reads ( given that almost nobody has explained his reads). Like really?
He wants his vote on me to make him look like he is doing something that is why he is pointing me as scum despite having 0 arguments.
And why is Jae Sk and not lets say mafia Cy?
Also I wouldn't be surprised if he is scum with Bins. Because Bins has been pretty shit as well.

Hey grumpy man.
If you would mind getting off your tunnel for a moment and explain your bins scum read that would be swell.

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farside, I'm confused.

Do you live with internet server that takes 24 hours to update?

No.

Why do you ask?

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farside, I'm confused.

Do you live with internet server that takes 24 hours to update?

No.

Why do you ask?

You are agreeing with Dunnstral vote at JaeReed when Dunnstral already moved his vote to Franky.

Ah!

I read from one page, make comments and post, then read the next page and post about things from that page.
I don't know if it was ever fixed, but I phone post a lot and last time I used the Q+ it didn't carry over from page to page.
Plus it'seems easier to see a few post then a lot of post when you phone post.

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Okay so the long post from JaeReed bugged me.
I'm curious to read why he thinks Dunn is scum and all I saw was based on dunn's franky push.
I just find the point garbage since frank hasn't come back at all to respond to dunn.

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Okay so the long post from JaeReed bugged me.
I'm curious to read why he thinks Dunn is scum and all I saw was based on dunn's franky push.
I just find the point garbage since frank hasn't come back at all to respond to dunn.

So you're saying that JaeReed is mafia for fosing Dunn having a trash argument on Frank?
So JaeReed is scummy for trash's trash?
If JaeReed is scummy for trash's trash then can't Dunn is scummy for trash as well?
Or are you implicating that it's impossible for {JR,Dunn} to be a scum team?
Or I am missing the point completely?

He's holding onto it as a scum tell when things have progressed.

I am still waiting u far to tell me why cy is town

Ill work on it
Hopefully later today, if not it will have to wait till Saturday

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@gameplay: do you buy lo's thoughts about dunn/cy scum team?

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Bahahahaha
I read most of cy's comments and it literally comes across as a child throwing a tantrum and saying no you did it first.

Still say he's town. But a word of advice, if players call you scum most of the time and poke you, doesn't mean they are scum.
Just my 2 cents

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Bahahahaha
I read most of cy's comments and it literally comes across as a child throwing a tantrum and saying no you did it first.

Still say he's town. But a word of advice, if players call you scum most of the time and poke you, doesn't mean they are scum.
Just my 2 cents

This...is fair. But it's less just bc he said I'm scum and more bc he just doesn't do anything pro town. I still stand by my read towards him.

I won't vote for him just yet bc I wanna see the entire thing play out.

His play isn't exactly informative but think of it this way.
If your townread what does he get the next day after when he continues to be unresponsive?

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Cy am I not sayin you should stfu but do it anyway

I'm going to assume you don't think he is scum.

Bahahahaha
I read most of cy's comments and it literally comes across as a child throwing a tantrum and saying no you did it first.

Still say he's town. But a word of advice, if players call you scum most of the time and poke you, doesn't mean they are scum.
Just my 2 cents

This...is fair. But it's less just bc he said I'm scum and more bc he just doesn't do anything pro town. I still stand by my read towards him.

I won't vote for him just yet bc I wanna see the entire thing play out.

His play isn't exactly informative but think of it this way.
If your townread what does he get the next day after when he continues to be unresponsive?

I'm sorry, but can you rephrase that?

Yikes! Sorry my phone does some weird automatic correcting.
Anyways gameplay tunnel on you and you are lynched and you flip town.
Gameplay pushed the lynch, never made a case and if he was scum he'd be under pressure.
1 got 1 isn't much of a trade.

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1 vs 1

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1 for 1 trade.
Tunneling on one player with no case to be shitty out of luck day 2

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I have realeo as a town read.
I need to get a list together.

*puts on your do list*

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JaeReed - null scum
2. Majiffy ' null
3. Bins - light town read
4. Dunnstral - town
5. Realeo - town
6. Gameplay506 - town
7. Farside22 - town
8. Franky - leaning scum
9. CyTheFlyGuy - town
10. Shinobi - town
11. Io - questionable
12. AlpacaAlpaca - questionable.

Not too bad this early

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UNVOTE: Dunn

I really want to solve {Bins,Io,Franky} before sorting out {Majiffy,Dunnstral} who are in my second teir of priority.

Can I point out that all alpaca has done is lob questions while pushing no scum reads at all.
I looked at the links and I give the guy credit his town/scum game have started to blend but typically he has reads about players more when he'said town.

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I'm now down to alpaca, Franky and lo as my strongest scum reads with bins/majiffy as null

I reread and lo switches reads on dunn and it only happens after others expressed that view.
Before long had no issues with dunn.

Vote: lo

I noted franky hasn't been around the site since Wednesday and probably will be replaced.

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I reread and lo switches reads on dunn and it only happens after others expressed that view.
Before long had no issues with dunn.

That's a flat out lie.
I had Dunn put down as scum in my second set of reads and not my first set of reads sure, but if you actually read my first set of reads I was disagreeing with Dunn about Frnkay being scum.
So no I've never switched my dread on Dunn ever this game.

Disagreeing with someone = scummy to you?

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The only thing I can see pointing towards Franky being scummy in his random vote saying he suspected Cy but not having expressed that suspicion beforehand. And even then that's only slightly significant beacuase he's a hypocrite for criticizing Dunn for not explaining the vote on him.

I suspect Cy a bit more than him because of the fact Cy was the last one on the early Maji wagon and really the 3rd of 4th vote is where I find most scum like to jump on because it's not really noticeable as people tend to focus more on who started the wagon, who pushed it, and who hammered it not really whose in the middle. (Normally this is only in the case of a mislynch but as their is 2 scum parties it can apply to a scum lynch too but still not as likely.)

Not really much else to say about other people so far, so now slight town and town reads.
Far's OK for trying to at least doing more than most people in terms of progressing the game past RVS. I only say OK because that's pretty easy to force, but still better looking than most of you.
Realeo is probably the only person I see right now as actually having genuine town motive behind their posts as the post that contribute don't look forced at all and frankly post 38 draws too much attention to be good for a Serial Killer and isn't all that likely to come from a Mafia. At a bare minimum definitely not a Serial Killer and likely Town.

TLDR: least favorable to favorable reads {Cy-Franky-Everyone else-Far-Realeo}

Sorry I was busy all of yesterday, found out my bathroom sink was leaking and there is a pretty large mold problem now so I was gutting the entire sink area.

And I'll have you know I actually have 5 posts Maji.

I don't like Cy's reaction testing, mainly because that is sometime townies only rarely did when I played on another sight. Reaction tests are really just an easy way to look like you're giving content and often just a cop out for a bad move, but honestly I don't get that feeling from him but it's not something that would make me super town read him for doing.

@Dunn, I still don't see how that wall makes Franky look like he is overreacting. That doesn't really seam much of a good accusation by looking at that. He's even right in post 68 that the burden of proof does lie in the accuser not the defendant. Not to mention like with Cy it was just a reaction test and I don't really see those as having town motivation in them very often.

Far is also now my top town read since they've only been contributing more content since I last posted and they are generally doing townie things like giving opinions, scum reads, and other comments on whatever they feel like.

New reads are:
{far}
{Reallo; Maji; Game}
{Bin; Franky; Jae; Shinobi; Alpacha}
{Cy}
{Dunn}

Lastly I will VOTE: Dunn
You're accusation of Franky is really starting to look like a huge stretch now. Honestly after you posted those evidence quotes it just makes me more suspicious of you.

You don't have to pageget every time you post a vote count you know. :\

After reading the events of the last page I have a reshuffled list a little. Game +1 and Cy -1.
Game's now being read as town simply because I feel like his interaction with Cy had been authentic (And only using this because I can't spell the synonym starting with a g...).
Also I moves Cy down to scum because of the stupid ending to his last post mainly, seriously that's such s horrible accusation it's just down right scummy, and only a little on the actual interaction he had with Game.

Another thing I will say. I am now pretty confident Cy and Dunn are the Mafia team.
And it's mainly for how Dunn's early gameplay in the RVS played out.

VOTE: cytheflyguy

OK second post in the game. Really nothing really of note here just RVS. And their next post looks like just a light hearted joke.

Holy moly cy is scum guys

I say it's light hearted because it honestly didnt' take long for them to move on in the RVS, and #56 looks like they even had a change of heart and now want people to stop voting for Cy.

Everyone voting Cy should flip to franky

Now I've already said why I think they are scum for the Franky interaction, but what I didn't notice was their opening and trying to shift people off of Cy in the RVS and onto Franky.

The second quote would have given Dunn 2 ways to go if they are partners. 1 way would be an easy bus if Cy really just fell apart somehow, and 2 it would be a good way to distance from him early on to avoid a connection between them. But really #56 undoes all of that as now Dunn's just strait up defending Cy despite the one putting pressure on him in the first place.
I'm aware this may seam just crazy as it's from 3 posts, but honestly with both of them being my top 2 scum reads and this interaction with them it doesn't look far fetched.

Phone posting so I grabbed lo's post to show that originally frank was scummy but then calls later after others said as much, she calls the case reachy and the later calls both cy/dunn scum for early comments.
Lo hasn't said much in regards to the current state either.

*note to self review shinobi on Saturday*

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Wow I missed lane even being here.
That's not normal for him to be so under the radar.

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The only thing I can see pointing towards Franky being scummy in his random vote saying he suspected Cy but not having expressed that suspicion beforehand. And even then that's only slightly significant beacuase he's a hypocrite for criticizing Dunn for not explaining the vote on him.

I suspect Cy a bit more than him because of the fact Cy was the last one on the early Maji wagon and really the 3rd of 4th vote is where I find most scum like to jump on because it's not really noticeable as people tend to focus more on who started the wagon, who pushed it, and who hammered it not really whose in the middle. (Normally this is only in the case of a mislynch but as their is 2 scum parties it can apply to a scum lynch too but still not as likely.)

Not really much else to say about other people so far, so now slight town and town reads.
Far's OK for trying to at least doing more than most people in terms of progressing the game past RVS. I only say OK because that's pretty easy to force, but still better looking than most of you.
Realeo is probably the only person I see right now as actually having genuine town motive behind their posts as the post that contribute don't look forced at all and frankly post 38 draws too much attention to be good for a Serial Killer and isn't all that likely to come from a Mafia. At a bare minimum definitely not a Serial Killer and likely Town.

TLDR: least favorable to favorable reads {Cy-Franky-Everyone else-Far-Realeo}

Sorry I was busy all of yesterday, found out my bathroom sink was leaking and there is a pretty large mold problem now so I was gutting the entire sink area.

And I'll have you know I actually have 5 posts Maji.

I don't like Cy's reaction testing, mainly because that is sometime townies only rarely did when I played on another sight. Reaction tests are really just an easy way to look like you're giving content and often just a cop out for a bad move, but honestly I don't get that feeling from him but it's not something that would make me super town read him for doing.

@Dunn, I still don't see how that wall makes Franky look like he is overreacting. That doesn't really seam much of a good accusation by looking at that. He's even right in post 68 that the burden of proof does lie in the accuser not the defendant. Not to mention like with Cy it was just a reaction test and I don't really see those as having town motivation in them very often.

Far is also now my top town read since they've only been contributing more content since I last posted and they are generally doing townie things like giving opinions, scum reads, and other comments on whatever they feel like.

New reads are:
{far}
{Reallo; Maji; Game}
{Bin; Franky; Jae; Shinobi; Alpacha}
{Cy}
{Dunn}

Lastly I will VOTE: Dunn
You're accusation of Franky is really starting to look like a huge stretch now. Honestly after you posted those evidence quotes it just makes me more suspicious of you.

You don't have to pageget every time you post a vote count you know. :\

After reading the events of the last page I have a reshuffled list a little. Game +1 and Cy -1.
Game's now being read as town simply because I feel like his interaction with Cy had been authentic (And only using this because I can't spell the synonym starting with a g...).
Also I moves Cy down to scum because of the stupid ending to his last post mainly, seriously that's such s horrible accusation it's just down right scummy, and only a little on the actual interaction he had with Game.

Another thing I will say. I am now pretty confident Cy and Dunn are the Mafia team.
And it's mainly for how Dunn's early gameplay in the RVS played out.

VOTE: cytheflyguy

OK second post in the game. Really nothing really of note here just RVS. And their next post looks like just a light hearted joke.

Holy moly cy is scum guys

I say it's light hearted because it honestly didnt' take long for them to move on in the RVS, and #56 looks like they even had a change of heart and now want people to stop voting for Cy.

Everyone voting Cy should flip to franky

Now I've already said why I think they are scum for the Franky interaction, but what I didn't notice was their opening and trying to shift people off of Cy in the RVS and onto Franky.

The second quote would have given Dunn 2 ways to go if they are partners. 1 way would be an easy bus if Cy really just fell apart somehow, and 2 it would be a good way to distance from him early on to avoid a connection between them. But really #56 undoes all of that as now Dunn's just strait up defending Cy despite the one putting pressure on him in the first place.
I'm aware this may seam just crazy as it's from 3 posts, but honestly with both of them being my top 2 scum reads and this interaction with them it doesn't look far fetched.

Phone posting so I grabbed lo's post to show that originally frank was scummy but then calls later after others said as much, she calls the case reachy and the later calls both cy/dunn scum for early comments.
Lo hasn't said much in regards to the current state either.

*note to self review shinobi on Saturday*

I might be misreading this but didn't originally she basically start off by saying that the case on Franky was iffy

I bonded where it clearly shows franky scummy

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Wow I missed lane even being here.
That's not normal for him to be so under the radar.

You know it. I've been working on the railroad all the live long day. Reading when I can. Don't worry, my true colors will show when I can

How about explaining your shinobi scum read.

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I'm driving down the tracks inspecting as we speak.

I will tell you my final point will be his overly aggressive attempt to discredit me before I've given any reasons or really said anything at all. He's scared. Very scared

Man I'm sad you are scum.

Vote: lane

I reread and lo switches reads on dunn and it only happens after others expressed that view.
Before long had no issues with dunn.

That's a flat out lie.
I had Dunn put down as scum in my second set of reads and not my first set of reads sure, but if you actually read my first set of reads I was disagreeing with Dunn about Frnkay being scum.
So no I've never switched my dread on Dunn ever this game.

Disagreeing with someone = scummy to you?

No but you're saying I had no issues with Dunn which I clearly had issues with and then you use that to make an argument that I'm scum for deciding one post later that his vote was actually a pretty scummy move.
You're wording that like I was town reading Dunn before I scum read him which I wasn't. And then if by had no issues with Dunn you meant that I was null reading him that's a horrible argument as that would basically just mean if I decided later that almost anyone was scum your argument that I'm scum fro doing that would be valid in your eyes when clearly going from a null to a scum read is not a scum indicative in of itself.

You were not scum reading him, I even bonded where he wasn't even listed as scum, nor town.
You quickly put him to scum for something others already called scummy is what I find highly scummy.

If that's not clear, I can't help you.

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Bonded = bolded

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At this point I am ok with killing Lane AND Io and writing off jae as tunneled town

Lane, lo
Sk either bins or majiffy.

That's my finally thoughts thus far.

Mayyyybbbe shinobi

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Far explain how 462 is town
Like at all

It's not.

But the unvote after, I'm seriously leaning vi townie.

I see lane claimed

unvote

I need to think about a few things and reread a couple of players before I vote.

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Also gameplay what bugs me about lo is she hasn't said much of anything and the fact that as soon as I call her out she comessage into the office lynch to defend herself but say nothing about her scum reads.

What's your thoughts on shinobi?

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Also gameplay what bugs me about lo is she hasn't said much of anything and the fact that as soon as I call her out she comes into the game only to defend herself but say nothing about her scum reads.

What's your thoughts on shinobi?

Fucking auto correct.

Fixed above.

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Far the thing ur saying bout lo fits Cy perfectly as well.

Cy is enthusiastic newbtown.
Io is obvtown.

Can we vote scum?
Like, say, Dunnstral? Fair chance Shinobi is the townread I'm wrong on considering his eagerness to attempt to discredit me and lane. Though tbh this is mostly me hunting by Dunn associates to find my incorrect townread, so if on the off chance Dunn is SK that can be disregarded. I do think Dunn is group scum, though.

Farside was in the running as a partner, but page 1 I have reread a few times to reaffirm that cy is newbtown rather than newbscum, and she's still town in the manner she voted him. It reminded me very much of the way I'd expect pista to react in that situation. The rest of the content seemed to run the same line of thought as myself until recently. So I think she's more likely to be my correct townread out of her and Shinobi.

I see a different prospective.
Cy seems like he is more involved then lo.
Lo has made few points and then all but disappears only to come in when it suits her needs.
Cy is a lot less reserved between the 2.

I really don't see Dunn as scum. All I see is the same point over and over again on why he is scum.
I also read the case points from Jaeread and that is pretty weak reasons.
Not touching that.

I could just go or majiffy but I have this inner person telling me to let it go for right now. (I hate that inner gut some days but it doesn't fail me typically).

I liked the points my Realeo about Shinobi.
Frankly he has been pretty meh in regards to his reads and I hate when people follow and suck up to me.

Also @ lane, seriously check lo out and tell me your thoughts there, along with alpaca.

Vote: lo

Going back here till someone can explain a town read on the spot.

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What confuses me about Cy is he keep using emoticons like xD and that really throws me away.

gameplay argument is completely valid and to be honest more seems like scum flailing instead of town with questionable fos (shinobi in my case) but the xD though.

At one point, I feel like this is town trying to express himself. On the other hand, this maybe actually classified fillering.

This maybe seem stupid, but this is fucking seriously flustered.

I see Gameplay as tunnelled on Cy and frankly I'm not following it.
I think no matter what cy says game will continue to rant how scummy he is.
I'm pretty much in the tune it out stage.
Call me stubborn but I just see one thing after another that Game is showing as a scum read on cy and I think if cy breathed wrong Game would call it scummy.

Just my 2 cents.

[farside22]

U clearly havent read CY.
Far cmon cy isnt involved in this at all.
THATS ONE OF MY FKIN ARGUMENTS THAT I USED
Dont make me do a.post by post quoting of cy pls

Pedit: tell me one thing cy has done that even remotely says town
Do it now

I'll do cy, if you give me points why Lo is town.

That goes to Jaeread too.

I'm glazing a bit, sorry ADD kicked in, but the sum I got from it reads more as Shinobi scum.
I'm going to do my view on Cy to make game happy........Did summer Waltz end? If so I'm using that for cy read.

[farside22]

Okay this is going to be long, but it goes to where I see town moments from cytheflyguy.

Eash I'm just really excitable about this game xD

I was the same during the sign up topic for this xD

I just ended a newbie game and played one before that and both times they did this lmao

This was after the questions and the spamming, which I noted earlier.
This is not newb scum behavior, this is the I'm ready to kick ass and take names and be a total nuisance town.
Seen it,
been there,
dealt with it.

And btw it's "you're"

Oooooh! I've always wanted to be a part of the police!!!

Hi. I'm going to do nothing until tomorrow.
Bye.

Honestly can't tell if scumtell or just lazy.

Orange is cool too

I hear it's the new black

LMAOOOOOOO

I'm quoting these all together because he is very relaxed, having fun and again nothing you see from a newb scum player.

My first impression scum is {cytheflyguy,Franky}

Accuracy level : ????

Why franky?

I'm just picking two names who I feel their opening feel awkward.

You don't ask why cy? Do you also scumread cy?

If you read back you can tell she doesn't appreciate my posting xD

I mean she did vote for me and never said that she stopped scum reading me xD

I think she just unvoted because that's not a valid reason to lynch.

I still feel that for now she scum reads me but I could be wrong *shrug*

Here you see that he is analysis players in his mind and noticing things that he see's and vocalizes them.

And to clarify, I have a null read on him, and pressure would make my read on him more stable xD

And to clarify, I have a null read on him, and pressure would make my read on him more stable xD

So you have a null read on him right now and pressuring him would solidify this read? or would pressuring him turn it into a town/scum read?
I don't know what you have to accomplish by saying that you need pressure on him for it to work but than not trying to pressure him or get others to in any way. It doesn't seem like you planned it too far into the future

Your misunderstanding the original intent doe. I did it because the conversation was going in circles and no one else was contributing to anything, so I decided to step in. In order for there to be something productive from this conversation, I picked someone who I wanted to push and wanted to see how they reacted. It's less of a long term thing, and more of a "trying to get an initial read" type thing.

Also I'm not saying this is the only was for this to be productive? Again, it's all a circle xD

If you're saying what I think you're saying when you say, " but than not trying to pressure him or get others to in any way. It doesn't seem like you planned it too far into the future" which is you saying I could have pressured anyone one else (I could be wrong lmao), but I didn't want to? I just picked him. xD

Does that make more sense?

There are many times where he talks about his views and feelings and interacts with others in the game.
This is typically more town then scum, especially when it comes over and over and over and over.
Yeah, you get the point.

I would join that but those cy posts are just too awful to pass by.

Sooooo explaining your reason for voteing would ruin the point of the vote? just to be clear

*

The conversation was going on in circles, and I felt adding pressure to someone in the conversation would move the conversation forward. One vote, openly stating that it's to add pressure doesn't do much, but one vote without it does garnish responses, from what I learned.

The only way my plan can work now would be for other people to join to it to get him to start talking more townlike lmao.

And to clarify, I have a null read on him, and pressure would make my read on him more stable xD

So you have a null read on him right now and pressuring him would solidify this read? or would pressuring him turn it into a town/scum read?
I don't know what you have to accomplish by saying that you need pressure on him for it to work but than not trying to pressure him or get others to in any way. It doesn't seem like you planned it too far into the future

Your misunderstanding the original intent doe. I did it because the conversation was going in circles and no one else was contributing to anything, so I decided to step in. In order for there to be something productive from this conversation, I picked someone who I wanted to push and wanted to see how they reacted. It's less of a long term thing, and more of a "trying to get an initial read" type thing.

Also I'm not saying this is the only was for this to be productive? Again, it's all a circle xD

If you're saying what I think you're saying when you say, " but than not trying to pressure him or get others to in any way. It doesn't seem like you planned it too far into the future" which is you saying I could have pressured anyone one else (I could be wrong lmao), but I didn't want to? I just picked him. xD

Does that make more sense?

Also wtf.is the bolded xD

LMAO, this is my first time doing this, but I wanted to see your reaction to my vote and see how you would react. As you'd see it, you'd know what my vote was for and would have a better reaction of how to respond with a town response. If more people voted, you'd be closer to being lynched, and would act more panicked and it would be easier to reach a read on you.

That was the plan, anyway. Now I still have null on you and it's all for naught :T

Trying something new.
Town point.

READS!

Oh my, this is a game with an SK! I almost forgot to put that in my reads!

Town:

AlpacaAlpaca-Super strong town read. Posts like 151 and 287 show really good, pro town questioning.
Dunnstral-Independent thinker. Makes logical pushes but does not tunnel.
Farside-See above but less tunneling.pushing xDD
Io-Borderline null, but makes solid paragraphs that I respect.
Majiffy-Another borderline town. I don't understand the scum read some people have on him?
Realeo-I have vibes. Idk good or bad. For now I'm going with good.
Shinobi-I like his posting and I'd like to know scum reads on him too?


Scum:

gameplay-6 268 Really really...bad
Frankie-Seems very isolated from town, but looks to confident to be SK

SK:

JaeReed-13 posts and 7 of them are unexplained reads. Looks like trying to be town without providing content.

Null:

Bins-Really want to see more from. Tbh borderline scum.

A list that leaves very little wiggle room to get out of.

Holy shit, Lane has 5 vote??? xDD

I thought he just had 2

UNVOTE:

unvotes quickly on lane.
Plus, as I have said maybe a million times scum is not dumb and voting a PR is the equivalent of doing a Homer.

[farside22]

On a side, note please do not refer to Summer Waltz the game is still in progress.

Thanks.

[farside22]

I don't disappear I just only really check Mafia scum 2 or 3 times a day. Plus when I do get on there's almost nothing actually going on to even talk about hence why I usually just do reads or something.
Also it is a capital I not a lowercase l in my name.

Now I wait for someone to explain the town read from this one, considering to include this to as to why it is town.

Sigh.

[farside22]

Lane!!!

Hi lane how are.
Can you do me just one thing and tell me your thoughtsite on Io

[farside22]

Sigh.

I feel like people have me on ignore or Io has some magical spell where it's okay to do crap and only 2 post overall that give analysis that contradicts each other.

Vote: shinobi

Also would vote for alcapca.

Won't touch lane, game, cytheflyguy, Dunn or Realeo.

[farside22]

Farside, I see your points, but he first read list was page 3. Her reads on Dunn and franky are different on page 10. I'm not seeing the issue

After others said the same thing.
Plus, have you seen her post anything other then defense when she comes in.

[farside22]

It's the number of fluff posts, number of asking for elaboration posts etc

That doesn't tell me anything.

I kinda skimmed when answering but I felt like I should elaborate - there are a bunch of my posts that you wrote off and I don't really know how to address you because I don't know what you're talking about.

The point is this. There is nothing substantial in your posts. It's busy work, fluff, asking questions that don't go anywhere, trying to look relevant but not, saying you'll do something but don't.

All your posts should be accounted for and that's a summary of what they all stood for. Nothing

But
that isn't true.

Because you say it isn't true doesn't make it untrue. The proof is your iso. I'm not going to quote your entire iso to prove it. You can quote just a couple posts of you doing something other than what I've laid out

I agreed with you, thus my vote.

I'm just placing mental bets that Io will continue to skate by.
If I must I'm going to meta the girl to see if I'm nuts.

[farside22]

I checked into IO's town and scum game and reached the conclusion my read sucks.
*
Puts IO into town category
Grumbles in embarrassment*

[farside22]

Is it really that obvious?

Yes.

[farside22]

And bins dives from null to scummy.

Bins you want to tell me some thoughts about what's going on in the game.

[farside22]

I'm beginning to think that both Bins and farside are scum.

I've had this nagging feeling that Bins has kind of been talking about nothing, IE her posts about me/majiffy unvoting and voting which seemed somewhat superficial. Her vote on Dunn (which came for what I'm assuming is a nonexistent reason) doesn't help matters at all and her whole thought process seems relatively disjointed.

Farside's read flip on Io seemed to come at a really unnatural time. She had started pushing Io so long ago and only very recently started looking into her meta way,

way

after the fact once nobody jumped on the wagon on her. (Not to mention the switch came after she found a new wagon and the meta case she came up with is nowhere to be found. What changed? It's a mystery.)

I still think Majiffy is a reliable third so I'm keeping my vote there. Otherwise, that's where I currently stand.

I only looked because no one agreed with me so I decided to see for myself if I was right and show proof if I was
But then again I'm voting for you so being reachy is okay for scum to do.

[farside22]

I'm beginning to think that both Bins and farside are scum.

I've had this nagging feeling that Bins has kind of been talking about nothing, IE her posts about me/majiffy unvoting and voting which seemed somewhat superficial. Her vote on Dunn (which came for what I'm assuming is a nonexistent reason) doesn't help matters at all and her whole thought process seems relatively disjointed.

Farside's read flip on Io seemed to come at a really unnatural time. She had started pushing Io so long ago and only very recently started looking into her meta way,

way

after the fact once nobody jumped on the wagon on her. (Not to mention the switch came after she found a new wagon and the meta case she came up with is nowhere to be found. What changed? It's a mystery.)

I still think Majiffy is a reliable third so I'm keeping my vote there. Otherwise, that's where I currently stand.

I kinda agree with your argument on Bins. Farside? Could it be possible that she's playing with feeling? I mean, if Farside is playing with feeling, then bias is going to be a factor and the biggest bias is going to be recent events.

Example:
->Io was completely out of radar until I mentioned about him @ 318. When I talked about Io, he starts talking about Io.
->When Lane throws about Shinobi, he starts voting you, maybe swayed by Lane's argument.

If this feels weird, think about supporter of Donald Trump. Most Donalud Trump voter are emotional voter. "OMG, there's a radical islam attack at Nice" *silently moves from Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump*

I didn't remember you mentioning IO.
As for shinobi I not only are with Lany I noted that shinobi has been following a lot and pushed fuck all.
Even the fluff quotes dunn posted reinforced that the questions he ask has done nothing for him.

Siiigh. I try to be less flaily and annoying. I get scumread. Typical.

I don't know what you guys want from me. I've been sharing my reads.



Also, Farside you never actually answered my question. I am interested in this IO meta.

No offense but it's not hard to do the meta yourself and since I'm phone posting I'm not going to do the link grabbing.
All you have to do is go to IO profile.
She didn't have a lot of games, go through them.
The only difference is noted is she is more active, but she was also active as scum.

[farside22]

@Bins Not sure if this is the meta farside used but this is at least my prior spectating experiences regarding Io.

Io town in a multiball open (Fire and Ice) here. Worth noting she replaced out here.

Io scum in a newbie (ended up in the townbloc) here. She deliberately used the newb card to her advantage here if I remember this correctly, so I'm not sure how useful this will be to determine her scumgame off of.

Yup.
Scum her talked more setup speculation and aquward.
Town making cases early with strong analysis.

[farside22]

As for shinobi I not only are with Lany I noted that shinobi has been following a lot and pushed fuck all.
Even the fluff quotes dunn posted reinforced that the questions he ask has done nothing for him.

So ignoring the fact that this is still wrong: is there any particular reason you're not voting majiffy or why my bins read is wrong?

Why is bins and majiffy scum?

Don't give me the I expect better speech, so me proof on this.
As for bins, I would agree on that, but I'll just show you alcapaca once again and ask, why not him?

[farside22]

By the by for fun, I show the push and points from shinobi in regards to bins.

Farside, before I go around moving my vote from people I don't trust to other people I don't trust, talk to me about bins.
What do you think of her?

I'm beginning to think that both Bins and farside are scum.

I've had this nagging feeling that Bins has kind of been talking about nothing, IE her posts about me/majiffy unvoting and voting which seemed somewhat superficial. Her vote on Dunn (which came for what I'm assuming is a nonexistent reason) doesn't help matters at all and her whole thought process seems relatively disjointed.

Farside's read flip on Io seemed to come at a really unnatural time. She had started pushing Io so long ago and only very recently started looking into her meta way,

way

after the fact once nobody jumped on the wagon on her. (Not to mention the switch came after she found a new wagon and the meta case she came up with is nowhere to be found. What changed? It's a mystery.)

I still think Majiffy is a reliable third so I'm keeping my vote there. Otherwise, that's where I currently stand.

*slow clap*

Using only one post out of many I made to present a case on me, I call really, really crappy and reachy.

[farside22]

By the by for fun, I show the push and points from shinobi in regards to bins.

Farside, before I go around moving my vote from people I don't trust to other people I don't trust, talk to me about bins.
What do you think of her?

I'm beginning to think that both Bins and farside are scum.

I've had this nagging feeling that Bins has kind of been talking about nothing, IE her posts about me/majiffy unvoting and voting which seemed somewhat superficial. Her vote on Dunn (which came for what I'm assuming is a nonexistent reason) doesn't help matters at all and her whole thought process seems relatively disjointed.

Farside's read flip on Io seemed to come at a really unnatural time. She had started pushing Io so long ago and only very recently started looking into her meta way,

way

after the fact once nobody jumped on the wagon on her. (Not to mention the switch came after she found a new wagon and the meta case she came up with is nowhere to be found. What changed? It's a mystery.)

I still think Majiffy is a reliable third so I'm keeping my vote there. Otherwise, that's where I currently stand.

*slow clap*

Using only one post out of many I made to present a case on me, I call really, really crappy and reachy.

Oh no! I only talked about Bins twice so the push doesn't count and means I'm doing nothing!


You've done nothing to counter the points I've made. Your push on me here is equally bad considering your bit on pushing me for only talking about Bins twice - it's inherently meaningless and reads like you're grasping at straws.

That is literally doing nothing for a player like you.
Don't throw shit at me.

I have a theory in regard to majiffy. I'm not sharing, someone can smack me after the game to share it but I'm not going to touch into it currently.

Lol Shinobi pushing someone else because they're doing nothing that isn't alpaca or majiffy? Dude, you need to get more creative when you're making up cases.

Can you elaborate on Farside and bins?

If I think someone is scum, hard read scum, and people don't believe me, I'm going to keep pushing my case. If I keep seeing something as scum, I'm going to keep telling people its scum. If after several attempts to convince someone is scum, I'm going to start to don't my read if literally no one is seeing what I'm seeing. I might keep pushing it further at this point if something else looks scummy, but eventually you have to maybe consider you're wrong and reevaluate your view.

That's how it would go for town. And you're using it as a scum tell haha! Wow

Meh I know scum can do it too. I don't really disagree but I clearly said I want to look to see if I'm losing it with my read on IO.
Shinobi knows I can be stubborn to a point and I love to throw things in players faces when I'm right.

As for shinobi I not only are with Lany I noted that shinobi has been following a lot and pushed fuck all.
Even the fluff quotes dunn posted reinforced that the questions he ask has done nothing for him.

So ignoring the fact that this is still wrong: is there any particular reason you're not voting majiffy or why my bins read is wrong?

Why is bins and majiffy scum?

Don't give me the I expect better speech, so me proof on this.
As for bins, I would agree on that, but I'll just show you alcapaca once again and ask, why not him?

I've explained both of them already. Majiffy really doesn't need proof because, well, we both know what I'm talking about without needing to dig up quotes.

As for Bins, posts #262 up to 264 are what I'm talking about. Her opinions just make me go "what? Why does this even matter?" and I just can't follow them - it feels like she's just kind of latching onto minutiae and it doesn't look normal.

I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea of an alpaca wagon - he keeps shifting spots on my readslist because my opinions on other players end up being far more extreme, while alpaca just kind of "exists." If I'm wrong on somebody, he'd be my next target/suspect.

This reminds me I need to update my read list a bit.

[farside22]

Town
Lane
Realeo
Gameplay506
cythefluyguy
IO

Leaning town:
JaeReed

Null

Majiffy
bin

Going back and forth on:
Dunnstral (that latest vote made me go, WHATTTTTTT???)

scum
Shinobi
Alpaca

[farside22]

Lol Shinobi pushing someone else because they're doing nothing that isn't alpaca or majiffy? Dude, you need to get more creative when you're making up cases.

Can you elaborate on Farside and bins?

If I think someone is scum, hard read scum, and people don't believe me, I'm going to keep pushing my case. If I keep seeing something as scum, I'm going to keep telling people its scum. If after several attempts to convince someone is scum, I'm going to start to don't my read if literally no one is seeing what I'm seeing. I might keep pushing it further at this point if something else looks scummy, but eventually you have to maybe consider you're wrong and reevaluate your view.

That's how it would go for town. And you're using it as a scum tell haha! Wow

I just elaborated on both.
What is your problem?

I elaborated why it was weak reasoning.
Yet your sticking with it.

[farside22]

Oh and FTFR I made other comments about Shinobi along the way but sure lets have him magically ignore them.

[farside22]

Lol Shinobi pushing someone else because they're doing nothing that isn't alpaca or majiffy? Dude, you need to get more creative when you're making up cases.

Can you elaborate on Farside and bins?

If I think someone is scum, hard read scum, and people don't believe me, I'm going to keep pushing my case. If I keep seeing something as scum, I'm going to keep telling people its scum. If after several attempts to convince someone is scum, I'm going to start to don't my read if literally no one is seeing what I'm seeing. I might keep pushing it further at this point if something else looks scummy, but eventually you have to maybe consider you're wrong and reevaluate your view.

That's how it would go for town. And you're using it as a scum tell haha! Wow

I just elaborated on both.
What is your problem?

I elaborated why it was weak reasoning.
Yet your sticking with it.

You won't talk about majiffy and I don't recall seeing anything from you about my recent words on bins.
What exactly are you responding to here?

*Magic*

Spoiler:

Sigh.

I feel like people have me on ignore or Io has some magical spell where it's okay to do crap and only 2 post overall that give analysis that contradicts each other.

Vote: shinobi

Also would vote for alcapca.

Won't touch lane, game, cytheflyguy, Dunn or Realeo.

I'm beginning to think that both Bins and farside are scum.

I've had this nagging feeling that Bins has kind of been talking about nothing, IE her posts about me/majiffy unvoting and voting which seemed somewhat superficial. Her vote on Dunn (which came for what I'm assuming is a nonexistent reason) doesn't help matters at all and her whole thought process seems relatively disjointed.

Farside's read flip on Io seemed to come at a really unnatural time. She had started pushing Io so long ago and only very recently started looking into her meta way,

way

after the fact once nobody jumped on the wagon on her. (Not to mention the switch came after she found a new wagon and the meta case she came up with is nowhere to be found. What changed? It's a mystery.)

I still think Majiffy is a reliable third so I'm keeping my vote there. Otherwise, that's where I currently stand.

I only looked because no one agreed with me so I decided to see for myself if I was right and show proof if I was
But then again I'm voting for you so being reachy is okay for scum to do.

I'm beginning to think that both Bins and farside are scum.

I've had this nagging feeling that Bins has kind of been talking about nothing, IE her posts about me/majiffy unvoting and voting which seemed somewhat superficial. Her vote on Dunn (which came for what I'm assuming is a nonexistent reason) doesn't help matters at all and her whole thought process seems relatively disjointed.

Farside's read flip on Io seemed to come at a really unnatural time. She had started pushing Io so long ago and only very recently started looking into her meta way,

way

after the fact once nobody jumped on the wagon on her. (Not to mention the switch came after she found a new wagon and the meta case she came up with is nowhere to be found. What changed? It's a mystery.)

I still think Majiffy is a reliable third so I'm keeping my vote there. Otherwise, that's where I currently stand.

I kinda agree with your argument on Bins. Farside? Could it be possible that she's playing with feeling? I mean, if Farside is playing with feeling, then bias is going to be a factor and the biggest bias is going to be recent events.

Example:
->Io was completely out of radar until I mentioned about him @ 318. When I talked about Io, he starts talking about Io.
->When Lane throws about Shinobi, he starts voting you, maybe swayed by Lane's argument.

If this feels weird, think about supporter of Donald Trump. Most Donalud Trump voter are emotional voter. "OMG, there's a radical islam attack at Nice" *silently moves from Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump*

I didn't remember you mentioning IO.
As for shinobi I not only are with Lany I noted that shinobi has been following a lot and pushed fuck all.
Even the fluff quotes dunn posted reinforced that the questions he ask has done nothing for him.

Siiigh. I try to be less flaily and annoying. I get scumread. Typical.

I don't know what you guys want from me. I've been sharing my reads.



Also, Farside you never actually answered my question. I am interested in this IO meta.

No offense but it's not hard to do the meta yourself and since I'm phone posting I'm not going to do the link grabbing.
All you have to do is go to IO profile.
She didn't have a lot of games, go through them.
The only difference is noted is she is more active, but she was also active as scum.

[farside22]

I hope I counted correctly this time...

Yuss! I did it!

VC 1.9

Majiffy

(3): AlpacaAlpaca 11, Shinobi 538, Dunnstral 612

Dunnstral

(3): Jaereed 186, Io 227, Bins 613

Shinobi

(2): Lane0168 461, Farside22 596

CyTheFlyGuy

(1): Gameplay506 52

Lane0168

(1): Majiffy 240

Not Voting

(2): Realeo 386, CyTheFlyGuy 466

With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to hammer.

The day will end on July 30th, 2016 at 10PM EST

(expired on 2016-07-30 22:00:00) (10PM EST July 30/16)

The top 2 wagons are Majiffy and Dunn by the by and until I get a better case you can kiss my ass at my theory thought process.

Second I said something about Bins.
Many things about Bins.

So shinobi can you explain to me why you keep lying over and over?

[farside22]

I looked over Bins and I can't believe Shinobi you even remotely believe the story you are selling about Bins/Far scum team.
There is a huge red flag that shows that is clearly not possible.

[farside22]

There's nothing to respond to in the first quote.
I don't see how what you said in the second quote applies to anything.
On top of the third quote being untrue, most of the quotes lane pulled up aren't even fluff. Two or three of them were me declaring a short V/LA and responding to someone about it later on, which is a complete joke to latch onto.

I"m sorry I can't hear you over your shitty case.

Here let me do, what you haven't done which show something with Meat on it.

Dunnstral, Farcry town

Would still like to lynch Io but will move to Frankly if the wagon doesn't kick up.

This seems a bit more apathetic than what I'm used to from you. Not a fan.

Alpaca reads as blending into the crowd for me.

Yeah, I can see this. I didn't even notice him at first but his only posts are pretty underwhelming.

VOTE: alpaca
This is where I'm most comfortable placing my vote.

Orange is cool too

I hear it's the new black

I hope you're proud of yourself.

Inwardly smiling.

Dunnstral, Farcry town

Would still like to lynch Io but will move to Frankly if the wagon doesn't kick up.

This seems a bit more apathetic than what I'm used to from you. Not a fan.

What you're used to from me?

Aggression.
Oomph.
Passion.

Here, you just seem kind of floaty and whatever about things. It bothers me.

Idk Cy seems really awkward, fake and whatnot.

Can you elaborate on this a bit more? This answer doesn't particularly sate me.

No
You're annoying. bb

Sorry for asking you to play the game, I guess?

I elaborated on my scumread idk if u cant read I cant help u bro

No, I get that you think he's awkward. I just don't understand why you think it, nor do I understand why it matters.

Elaborate on a scum read on page 5 lol

Posts like this are not endearing, for any reason.
VOTE: majiffy

shinobi I have no clue what you want from me I've explained it in a way that should be understandable and answers the question

Read above - all I see is comments on him "overreacting" and I thought how he acted was relatively normal. I'm just not seeing the same overreaction you two are and I keep trying to figure out what it is you're seeing and why it matters. So far, I've figured out neither of these things.

Now before shinobi comes here again asking 30 questions let me explain it shino.
I don't know how to read those posts really but I lean more at the "scum trying to come up with whatever reason he can to vote me" especially given that shinobi and far vs me happened just the previous page. Positioning or whatever you call it.
It could also be newbtown but honestly those arguments are too dumb even for a newb.

This is a step in the right direction, imo.

Farside, before I go around moving my vote from people I don't trust to other people I don't trust, talk to me about bins.
What do you think of her?

I have realeo as a town read.
I need to get a list together.

*puts on your do list*

I'm not opposed to this read either.

VOTE: lane
I'm okay with this.

I am not only talking about lane, I am talking about your vote @ Alpaca during D2.

I suppose.
I'm still suspicious of Alpaca either way - he's still a low-impact player that seems happy not moving the game in any direction.

Again - do you think it's outside my wheelhouse for me to go after either of these players?

VOTE: majiffy
I'm still really comfortable with my 'jiffy vote. His only few showings have been incredibly lackluster (RE: him showing up to talk about a replacement that he was voting and somehow wasn't aware of and only talking about a votecount after several pages on content) and I know he's capable of so much more than he has done thus far.

I'm beginning to think that both Bins and farside are scum.

I've had this nagging feeling that Bins has kind of been talking about nothing, IE her posts about me/majiffy unvoting and voting which seemed somewhat superficial. Her vote on Dunn (which came for what I'm assuming is a nonexistent reason) doesn't help matters at all and her whole thought process seems relatively disjointed.

Farside's read flip on Io seemed to come at a really unnatural time. She had started pushing Io so long ago and only very recently started looking into her meta way,

way

after the fact once nobody jumped on the wagon on her. (Not to mention the switch came after she found a new wagon and the meta case she came up with is nowhere to be found. What changed? It's a mystery.)

I still think Majiffy is a reliable third so I'm keeping my vote there. Otherwise, that's where I currently stand.

Goes after Majiffy and eventually votes for him.
Switches to Lane with the wagon starts going.
Following me and suddenly when I vote him he puts me as scum.
And here we are, even though he is voting majiffy he hasn't voted bins at all.

The big fat question is why can Alpaca all but disappear and be ignored but others can't.

[farside22]

I looked over Bins and I can't believe Shinobi you even remotely believe the story you are selling about Bins/Far scum team.
There is a huge red flag that shows that is clearly not possible.

Oh joy - do enlighten me.

Nope.

[farside22]

I took a deep breath
Calmed down.
Reviewed a few things in my head.
Took a few more deep breath's.

Lane: I suggest rereading Bins, tell me your thoughts for a moment because my inner being kicked in and I wonder if I'm giving majiffy too much credit doing nothing this game.

vote: Bins

[farside22]

Wanted the meta in your own words cause it was seemingly good enough to flip a read.

I already explained it with the link JaeReed gave.

[farside22]

@game, why do you think Shinobi is town? I don't need proof of quotes. But why do you think that? (I might need proof or quotes if your answer is something I haven't seen)

I noted a few things in my emotional state, but I ignored them because I couldn't understand shinobi's sudden change of view or why he was ignoring alpaca.

Just to get to it briefly, he is pushing his thoughts more then you realize with those questions. He is following up and digging into things he noted and some of the questions are intended for reaction purposes.
That was what I got inbetween my wtf moment do to shinobi's reaction to my vote.

[farside22]

Ye cy is scum but nobody is going to vote him so meh.
He

is

going to get lynched and you are going to see he is scum but ok.

Vote:Bins

Idk who to.vote at this point. I see shinobi as town, Far vs shinobi seems town. Idk bout Maji was thinking of.voting him but I really don't feel.its right mainly because he has posted so little. Was thinking of voting Alpaca as well but iso'ing him made me think newbtown. So I will just go with Bins. Dunn is still town too.

@Cy

I asked you something don't ignore.me.for the 3rd time.

Now that I can bring this up.
After what happened in Summer Waltz I'm not going to cave into a tunneller ever again when I disagree.
Sorry but I saw what happens with that and cytheflyguy in Summer Waltz was much more obvious scum really quickly.

[farside22]

@game, why do you think Shinobi is town? I don't need proof of quotes. But why do you think that? (I might need proof or quotes if your answer is something I haven't seen)

I noted a few things in my emotional state, but I ignored them because I couldn't understand shinobi's sudden change of view or why he was ignoring alpaca.

Just to get to it briefly, he is pushing his thoughts more then you realize with those questions. He is following up and digging into things he noted and some of the questions are intended for reaction purposes.
That was what I got inbetween my wtf moment do to shinobi's reaction to my vote.

OK. As Dunnstral was confused about what analysis is, show me his follow up. That meant anything to the game. Show me anything.

If you don't mind I'm going to wait a bit on Shinobi first before I respond.

[farside22]

I'm here, if that's what you want.

You want to explain about the 180 degree read based on very little reasoning there first?

[farside22]

I'm here, if that's what you want.

You want to explain about the 180 degree read based on very little reasoning there first?

Because you jumped on me for reasons that I thought were bad and when I looked back to see what happened beforehand I saw something that didn't really make sense to me.

I assumed that you'd just understand me based on previous experience so you voting made me go "whoa wth?"

I'm not sure how I feel about your change in read here but I'm significantly less stressed about discussing it with you now.

*hug*

Alright lane.

This will be my last wall for the day though.

Spoiler:

VOTE: Cy
3 pages in one night fk u
But this guy seems like a legit place to place a vote
Liking Realeo as town

Can you elaborate on any of these things?

Idk Cy seems really awkward, fake and whatnot.

Can you elaborate on this a bit more? This answer doesn't particularly sate me.

Idk Cy seems really awkward, fake and whatnot.

Can you elaborate on this a bit more? This answer doesn't particularly sate me.

No
You're annoying. bb

Sorry for asking you to play the game, I guess?

Idk Cy seems really awkward, fake and whatnot.

Can you elaborate on this a bit more? This answer doesn't particularly sate me.

No
You're annoying. bb

Sorry for asking you to play the game, I guess?

I am playing the game, searching for scum and you're sitting there asking me dumb questions.
I find my answer satisfying enough and you aren't going to get another one so sorry.

But you aren't saying anything. Throwing a hissy fit and spitting in my face because you can't elaborate on a scumread is not a good look and isn't going to impress or convince anyone.

This first batch in shinobi's trying to get something from Gameplay.
You really can't peruse much beyond that.

Spoiler:

Dunnstral, Farcry town

Would still like to lynch Io but will move to Frankly if the wagon doesn't kick up.

This seems a bit more apathetic than what I'm used to from you. Not a fan.

Orange is cool too

I hear it's the new black

I hope you're proud of yourself.

Inwardly smiling.

Dunnstral, Farcry town

Would still like to lynch Io but will move to Frankly if the wagon doesn't kick up.

This seems a bit more apathetic than what I'm used to from you. Not a fan.

What you're used to from me?

Aggression.
Oomph.
Passion.

Here, you just seem kind of floaty and whatever about things. It bothers me.

I elaborated on my scumread idk if u cant read I cant help u bro

No, I get that you think he's awkward. I just don't understand why you think it, nor do I understand why it matters.

Elaborate on a scum read on page 5 lol

Posts like this are not endearing, for any reason.
VOTE: majiffy

shinobi I have no clue what you want from me I've explained it in a way that should be understandable and answers the question

Read above - all I see is comments on him "overreacting" and I thought how he acted was relatively normal. I'm just not seeing the same overreaction you two are and I keep trying to figure out what it is you're seeing and why it matters. So far, I've figured out neither of these things.

Now before shinobi comes here again asking 30 questions let me explain it shino.
I don't know how to read those posts really but I lean more at the "scum trying to come up with whatever reason he can to vote me" especially given that shinobi and far vs me happened just the previous page. Positioning or whatever you call it.
It could also be newbtown but honestly those arguments are too dumb even for a newb.

This is a step in the right direction, imo.

Oh wait hold on I know how this works

Shinobi please elaborate on your read for me thanks

I feel like you've been relatively lackluster thus far - your Io push feels half-hearted and I'm not happy with you taking a potshot at me based on the fact that I'm asking people to explain things.

This is all about how he interacts with majiffy and trying to get something from him, while he gets nothing back.

Spoiler:

Realeo, talk to me about Majiffy and tell me what you think of him.
Same, with Franky, if you would.

As for shinobi I not only are with Lany I noted that shinobi has been following a lot and pushed fuck all.
Even the fluff quotes dunn posted reinforced that the questions he ask has done nothing for him.

So ignoring the fact that this is still wrong: is there any particular reason you're not voting majiffy or why my bins read is wrong?

Why is bins and majiffy scum?

Don't give me the I expect better speech, so me proof on this.
As for bins, I would agree on that, but I'll just show you alcapaca once again and ask, why not him?

I've explained both of them already. Majiffy really doesn't need proof because, well, we both know what I'm talking about without needing to dig up quotes.

As for Bins, posts #262 up to 264 are what I'm talking about. Her opinions just make me go "what? Why does this even matter?" and I just can't follow them - it feels like she's just kind of latching onto minutiae and it doesn't look normal.

I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea of an alpaca wagon - he keeps shifting spots on my readslist because my opinions on other players end up being far more extreme, while alpaca just kind of "exists." If I'm wrong on somebody, he'd be my next target/suspect.

This last bit is him trying to figure out others and where they stand with someone he is scum reading.
The last is his points on bins which was pretty well thought out. He's right about how bins hasn't really done anything as far as the game goes and I found myself going around bins trying to find something that wasn't kissing someone else's butt.

[farside22]

Oh I promised a theory on majiffy.

Spoiler:

This may sound a bit weird, but regardless of alignment I would expect majiffy to do well.
I thought maybe he might be a PR and was riding low so he could use his abilities.

I'd rather vote for bins.

[farside22]

So 2 pages ago you both scum read each other, and now you mutually townread each other?

That first line of questioning goes nowhere. Asking people to elaborate isn't doing anything. It's easy and looks good. Anyone can do it.

The interaction with majiffy... So that happens, he concludes majiffy is lackluster and half hearted. That's some good scum-hunting right there. I said besides that

30 pages and that's his best case? Are you fucking with me right now Farside?

You obviously don't care. There is a lot there and you are just in your own little tunnel.

You want to bitch, then have fun doing it.

I'll tune you out for the rest of the game.

[farside22]

Actually cy might be just pretty awful town. Just read your sad eyesore desperate childish case on me and it gave me that feeling. I'd still suggest you get vigged 'cus you're useless af at the LEAST( and scummy af) but I might slightly calm my tunnel for now.

I wouldn't be adverse to this.
I'd rather see alpaca or majiffy be vigged.

[farside22]

Actually cy might be just pretty awful town. Just read your sad eyesore desperate childish case on me and it gave me that feeling. I'd still suggest you get vigged 'cus you're useless af at the LEAST( and scummy af) but I might slightly calm my tunnel for now.

I wouldn't be adverse to this.
I'd rather see alpaca or majiffy be vigged.

Why would you be ok with this? Do you really think I'm as bad as your other scum reads?

You're being annoying and anti town.
Your death would help the game state.

[farside22]

I don't see anything you said that was bad.
Cytheflyguy certainly was taunting.
I'm not sure why the mod warning happened.
I've seen far worse things in a Mafia game.

[farside22]

Ah, thanks!

[farside22]

She's got three completed games

I think meta off of three games shouldn't be enough to change a read thats why I was like wtf far

Dude I take meta from newbs off of one game.
Unless you want to explain why you so readily believe IO is scum and why you disagree with me about her games played thus far.

[farside22]

I don't readily believe she's scum I'm very hesitant _._ that's why I was interested in your meta.

Why haven't you checked what I said about IO.
Add to that you've already stated you find it hard to believe I saw anything with 2 games out 3.
Soooooo......

[farside22]

Also, seriously a vig on alpaca, please.

[farside22]

And....????

[farside22]

And aren't you going to scumread me for it?

Io's meta has made me feel the exact same. Two games does not one change a read. Especially when her posting mimics her scum game more, in my opinion.


{Lane}
{Shinobi}
{Farside}
{Alpaca, Dunnstral, flyguyCY slot}
{gameplay, REALDEALEO, Jaebae}
{Io, Majiffy}

no this feels wrong i really like this puzzle

{Lane}
{Shinobi}
{Farside, Alpaca, Dunnstral}
{gameplay}
{flyguyCY slot}
{REALDEALEO, Jaebae}
{Io, Majiffy}

VOTE: Majiffy

Poof he went.

Explain how her games Minic each other.

[farside22]

Like I used an example where she started with making cases and long analysis and as scum all she really did was talk about how to play the game and play the newb card.
So I'm curious to see where bins see's IO play as the same with examples

[farside22]

I'm saying her posting in her scumgame is a lot similar to her posting in this. It doesn't really make me scumread her more in this game because IT'S TWO GAMES.

Where do you see that?

[farside22]

Farside goes from voting to defending Shinobi. Shinobi goes from scumreading to not anymore. That's shady as shit

If I recalled correctly, this is 2nd occurence.

Lane is just a bit mad at me.
I could point out no one agrees with his case and made point why shinobi is town, but I'm the bad guy because I thought he was right and in retrospect realized I didn't see him scummy.

[farside22]

I really don't see bins town.
Dunn you want to explain the town read other than just using quotes?

[farside22]

{Shinobi, Cy, Gameplay}, {Bins, Io}
My lynch pools. First is preferred.

Why?

[farside22]

Can I propose lynch on {Cy,Alpaca,Majiffy}

This is a POE so if you want to know why I came to this result, it will easier for you to ask why I eliminate certain person.

I am on the tipping point whether Majiffy/Dunn.

I'm thinking for sure alpaca is scum.
I have a reason for this.
I'm unwhelmed by both bins and majiffy.
There are a few post that pin me with dunn, but mostly I lean town.
I need a RL day to think.

[farside22]

Hi! I'll be reading shortly!

HI!!!!!!

[farside22]

VOTE: Majiffy
His profile gif scares me

Hasn't really talked about Majiffy since this post

Are you still voting him because his profile gif scares you?

VOTE: Alpaca

That is the only thing lacking from you dunn.

[farside22]

There is no lane conflict. A bunch of idiots and scum voted lane. End of conflict.

So you think that the Lane wagon was scum directed?

My long awaited probably will be viewd as shit read list Hurrah!
Io- Her reads flow logically and even though I disagree with some of them. Was on Dunn and stayed on Dunn since basically the beginning
Bins- Her first few posts I liked as town especially 261 I wasn't feeling 299 but I liked 472 because that was essentially my reaction
CY - I have thought that Cy was town from the beginning and I still think it I see him as excited town (much to Games probable dismay)
Dunn - beginning was pretty skecthy but it was RVS so I will almost let it go. In general a LOT of shifting reads but idk if that is a scumtell for him, I have a weak scum read here
Far - stacks on stacks on posts here I am pretty sure she is town but on the other hand I don't know if I would be able to pick out her scum game. Still town though
Franky/Lane - Franky didn't do much and didn't answer my really thought out question so that kind of made me sad, so far I think that Lane on Shinobi has been good but on the other hand i thought his claim was trash pretty null for now
Game - Started off with some NAI posts than goes into tunnel mode on Cy and I have to agree with Far here that he is now extremely confbiased and I see Cy as town so I don't know what to think here, basically null
Jiffy - I liked his sarcasm but not anything super recent and thats about it, so pretty null for now
Real - I have liked Real so far, good questions, if his thing on Cy is correct I would be amazed but he is still a town read for me
Shinobi - idk what to feel about Shinobi, his whole thing with Lane was interesting but idk what to make of it for now he is null

Yeah, you said that already.
I fail to see how that's outside his expected range or why it's overblown. Can you fill those two gaps in logic up for me?

I will try to fill in this because I am also bothered by the same thing.

Have you ever heard the phrase, "The innocent relax, The guilty shouts." I mean, it's classic scene where your mom accuses your dad cheating, then your dad shouts back at your mom saying, "You bitch! How dare you accuse me of cheating! We have been marrying for 25 years! Do you never believe in me?"

And it turns out the father is cheating.

When I poke cy, cy just relax. When Dunn poke Franky, Franky becomes dad.

lmfao this post

but idk if my bf accused me of cheating i'd be pretty peeved and i ain't no cheater



i didn't like franky's reaction either. mostly because he seemed

overly

defensive. but some defensiveness is good and natural. being lynched as town sucks. being relaxed is actually a scumtell for me. scum are more relaxed because they don't want to seem defensive.



anyways nbd just some theory

I looked through the links and I think alpaca from what I saw of his town and scum games will be the one I wait to see on this game.

Realeo: Why Shinobi?

Shinobi is in questioning mode. I want a conclusion. I think a vote will accelerate the process. Two will help, too.

OU

is the SvT about to happen


do i feeeeeel it

--


shinobi is being lurky / needing to catch-upy but i think his vocalness (hefty vocalness) about it is good if that makes sense

--

OU MAJIFFY VOTE LIKEY

--

k
like i know im supposed to be good at this game but i think its about time i ask what NAI stands for because i can't fill it in with Not Anything Interesting each time i read it.

--

ehhhh majiffy unvoting Io... ehhhh is that a townmove.... are they scum together... ? how do i feeeel...

He's like my strongest townread >_>

he could be scum being SUPER awkward but I'm just going to say he's town being SUPER awkward

Roleblocker. Thanks for the chance to speak. Clearly don't have time to get my shit together before getting lynched

Wait, why the fuck did you claim?

You do realise Franky was mostly being voted to pressure the replacement/get a slot to vote.

If you were town you should of just caught up and gave reads and I may have been so much happier with your slot.

Siiigh. I try to be less flaily and annoying. I get scumread. Typical.

I don't know what you guys want from me. I've been sharing my reads.



Also, Farside you never actually answered my question. I am interested in this IO meta.

I actually agree with Jae's case on Dunn so I'm sheeping it.


CY is looking a lot weirder. Not worse. Weirder. Has he even noticed the claim?

Is it just me that sees these posts as coming from town

First his list of reads.
No scum reads at all.

What got me about the Bins points is how random it came from the game.
Wking with just a bunch of quotes and little else say.

[farside22]

I couldn't be more obvious if I tried but whatever I don't see anything else I disagree with in regards to gm.
Emotionally I felt let down by her but it's just a catch up post.

[farside22]

idgaf at this point I am willing to lynch myself just for a lynch to occur
I hate it when I have to wait till the end of the deadline for a lynch especially with those loco 14 day deadlines so pls lets just all vote the ones we scum read and end this day

I like the wagon.
Talk to Mr. Cranky online

[farside22]

Can I propose lynch on {Cy,Alpaca,Majiffy}

This is a POE so if you want to know why I came to this result, it will easier for you to ask why I eliminate certain person.

I am on the tipping point whether Majiffy/Dunn.

I'm thinking for sure alpaca is scum.
I have a reason for this.
I'm unwhelmed by both bins and majiffy.
There are a few post that pin me with dunn, but mostly I lean town.
I need a RL day to think.

Still curious the reason for me being for sure scum and now seems like a good time to Brin it up

I actually already stated why.
Do you really think a bunch of quotes are going to sway players?

fuuk this doesn't seem right
Alpaca seems town :@@@@@@@
UNVOTE: Alpaca

I'm not seeing it.
He saw points were dunn was scummy but never voted.
He says Jiffy has no substance but Bins falls into the same category but no as awful.

[farside22]

I think Jiffy is they lazy wagon that scum would jump on.
Dunn seems a bit skitzo.

Alpaca I would like a thought process of reads from you about each player in the game.

[farside22]

Dunn seems a bit skitzo.

Initially didn't want Alpaca because he's kind of always like this

I reread his iso and think he's actually scummy and his vote park on majiffy is bad

Does that help?

Your voting has been all over the place.

Cool.
I'm good with voting Alpaca if I have to tbh - I still don't think highly of him and I'm kinda cool with seeing him go. The only reason I haven't switched is because I think that Majiffy is the more likely serial killer between the two of them.

Why sk over mafia?

[farside22]

Jaereed how surprised would you be if you saw me flip town?

You won't. I promise you if you did I'd feel awful. But you won't.

Hey there is a vig out there and a sk.
You never know whom will be shot and I think some answers may be more revealing day 2 aftwr.

[farside22]

Jaereed how surprised would you be if you saw me flip town?

You won't. I promise you if you did I'd feel awful. But you won't.

Hey there is a vig out there and a sk.
You never know whom will be shot and I think some answers may be more revealing day 2 aftwr.

I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at here. I don't think we get the flips of anyone killed by maf, sk, or vig due to the whole cannibal deal. Way I see it we have to lynch them? I suppose if the vig got maf or sk they would claim it? Or maybe they'd wait til 1 was left if they were on a roll. Dunno how that would be handled. Worst case scenario is the vig gets done in by maf and we don't get to know their flips?

Ah I had forgotten about the non-alignment flip.

Well the bright note is the vig will learn and they are town, so we could learn something from that.

[farside22]

I'm highly considering voting shinobi for sk hunting.
Lane: do you think alpaca is town, if so why?

[farside22]

I'll put it this way. I'd lean town on him. He seems pretty transparent and isn't crumbling under what I would consider a high amount of pressure. His questions seem relevant for the most part.

However, I'm no expert, so while I won't vote for him, I'm not going to try to stop others from voting him

Yeah but I typically see town a bit more pissy when a wagon gets on them.

I don't recall a relevant question he asked.

[farside22]

Gm: when a player say either X or y could a an sk, I have to ask why doesn't he think they are scum together?

With that my spindy sense is on high alert.

Vote: shinobi

[farside22]

Cool.
I'm good with voting Alpaca if I have to tbh - I still don't think highly of him and I'm kinda cool with seeing him go. The only reason I haven't switched is because I think that Majiffy is the more likely serial killer between the two of them.

Why does he only think they could be a sk???
Why can't one be scum and one be a sk?
Someone needs to explain to me why that comment from shinobi is town.

[farside22]

Cool.
I'm good with voting Alpaca if I have to tbh - I still don't think highly of him and I'm kinda cool with seeing him go. The only reason I haven't switched is because I think that Majiffy is the more likely serial killer between the two of them.

Why does he only think they could be a sk???
Why can't one be scum and one be a sk?
Someone needs to explain to me why that comment from shinobi is town.

I'm just waiting for a response to this and Bins makes some random point that doesn't awnser this.

[farside22]

Cool.
I'm good with voting Alpaca if I have to tbh - I still don't think highly of him and I'm kinda cool with seeing him go. The only reason I haven't switched is because I think that Majiffy is the more likely serial killer between the two of them.

Why does he only think they could be a sk???
Why can't one be scum and one be a sk?
Someone needs to explain to me why that comment from shinobi is town.

Why is it that, for some reason, you're assuming that I think one is town despite me saying I think he's pretty scummy/null literally all game?
What the hell is wrong with you?

Why do you think Jiffy could only possibly be the sk?
Don't fucking dance around the question.

[farside22]

UNVOTE:
I wish you didn't have to wait all the way until two days before deadline to do towny stuff.
Now I'm in this horribly awkward position and I have to find someone else to lynch.

He has no other scum reads.
He only comes online strongly when he'said being voted for.
What happened with Bins or alpaca?

That said Bins moved back into a town place in my heart.
As silly as this sounds I agree with dunn about Gm coming across as scummy especially the back and forth with lane.

Final day 1 reads are thus.

Town:

Game
Lane
JaeReed
Io
Bins
Realeo

Scum

Shinobi
Alpaca

SK
GM or Jiffy

[farside22]

what I'm town reading you how am I jumping on you

Because your an easy target to lash at.

[farside22]

Farside just took a nosedive into scum territory for me again. Too much nitpicky garbage from her and it feels like she's only going for wagons because they're happening rather than because she believes in them. She even had an instance of having an issue with 'Jiffy only to ignore it and continue pursuing a wagon on me, because

???

That whole line of thinking seems disjointed and biased.
The GM wagon seems mediocre - lane's points don't seem strong (his whole bit about the PR claim not amounting to a read seems pretty flimsy) and I'm not going to vote there.
Alpaca and Jiffy are my other two choices.

I've talked about Alpaca several times and nothing has changed.
I'm still kind of unwilling to let go of my read on Jiffy considering he only showed up when his ass was on the line and is now nowhere to be found now that nobody is bothering him.

I considered responding till I realized the amount of Hypocritical shit your complaining about is not worth a lick of crap.

[farside22]

You just said you're kind of ok with the Shinobi case then questioned the wagon are you kidding me

Why does shinobi have 5 votes?

Because he is scum.
Have you read the "case" he made.
I use the word case very loosely here.

[farside22]

Because he is scum.
Have you read the "case" he made.
I use the word case very loosely here.

Are you talking about my case because you have been really vague every time you mention cases lately

I'm talking about Shinobi.
I find your posting especially about Gm wonderfully blunt and refreshing.

I think lane is aggregated by Gm due to the lack flip that occurs when a player is killed.
Her glib response is odd.

[farside22]

Aggravated not aggregated
Sigh

[farside22]

I am very much against lynching shinobi today

Why?

The only time he is present is when pushed and then he comes up with weak reads for weak reasons.

Plus if alpaca was indeed scum why not vote Shinobi?

[farside22]

I AM THE PAGETOP GOD!!!

BOW TO ME!

VC 1.16

Shinobi

(5): Majiffy 833, Io 900, Farside22 961, JaeReed 985, Lane0168 987

AlpacaAlpaca

(4): GoodMorning 876, Realeo 921, Dunnstral 1027, Shinobi 1043

GoodMorning

(2): Bins 1010, Gameplay506 1022

Majiffy

(1): AlpacaAlpaca 893

Not Voting

(0): Not a soul! =D

With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to hammer.

AlpacaAlpaca is on V/LA
The day will end on July 30th, 2016 at 10PM EST

(expired on 2016-07-30 22:00:00) (10PM EST July 30/16)

Also alpaca is voting off any viable wagon with less then a day to go makes me go,

[farside22]

Everyones trying to lynch shinobi for "being a mafia partner to all these other unflipped guys"

Not me.
I'm voting shin for sk hunting, making no case at all and actively lurking.
Only coming out when voted for.

[farside22]

Far what are your current thoughts on Dunn?

I think he'should town.

There are 4 people who have expressed an interest in lynching me. Stop dumbtelling.

A shinobi lynch over alpaca would be absolutely horrible

I could go with either one.

[farside22]

You think he should be town?

My auto correct is really annoying with this phone.
The 's I type creates another word and I don't notice it.
I'm just typing and post what I know im typing.

[farside22]

He'said=he's
He'should=he's

I honestly hate your phone for doing that far

Me too.

[farside22]

Then do it
Lets lynch scum

Why isn't shinobi scum?

[farside22]

I am stronly against alpaca living to tomorrow.

Shinobi is town

Still see shinobi making no case and just lobbing comments.

I'm good with my vote, thanks.

[farside22]

VOTE: alpaca

Farside just took a nosedive into scum territory for me again. Too much nitpicky garbage from her and it feels like she's only going for wagons because they're happening rather than because she believes in them. She even had an instance of having an issue with 'Jiffy only to ignore it and continue pursuing a wagon on me, because

???

That whole line of thinking seems disjointed and biased.
The GM wagon seems mediocre - lane's points don't seem strong (his whole bit about the PR claim not amounting to a read seems pretty flimsy) and I'm not going to vote there.
Alpaca and Jiffy are my other two choices.

I've talked about Alpaca several times and nothing has changed.
I'm still kind of unwilling to let go of my read on Jiffy considering he only showed up when his ass was on the line and is now nowhere to be found now that nobody is bothering him.

Oh the thing I called Hypocritical.
Yup I totally saw that and only saw it once.
Plus it's not a case it's more like omgus while flailing.

[farside22]

The number of time shinobi mentions alpaca is....



4
Same thing over and over and over
Get the point, how about quotes then.

VOTE: alpaca
This is where I'm most comfortable placing my vote.

Cool.
I'm good with voting Alpaca if I have to tbh - I still don't think highly of him and I'm kinda cool with seeing him go. The only reason I haven't switched is because I think that Majiffy is the more likely serial killer between the two of them.

Alpaca is my only other pick for a lynch at this time - he's still a relatively forgettable player and I can't really recall what he's accomplished this game. I even looked through his filter and he just sort of...Exists. I think I talked about it already but I feel like it bears repeating anyway.
I'll see how I feel about Majiffy in the morning. Atm I feel better but I still kind of expect him to do something after coming up with a gigantic case, either pushing it or reconsidering it w/e. Instead he just kind of vanishes.

Farside just took a nosedive into scum territory for me again. Too much nitpicky garbage from her and it feels like she's only going for wagons because they're happening rather than because she believes in them. She even had an instance of having an issue with 'Jiffy only to ignore it and continue pursuing a wagon on me, because

???

That whole line of thinking seems disjointed and biased.
The GM wagon seems mediocre - lane's points don't seem strong (his whole bit about the PR claim not amounting to a read seems pretty flimsy) and I'm not going to vote there.
Alpaca and Jiffy are my other two choices.

I've talked about Alpaca several times and nothing has changed.
I'm still kind of unwilling to let go of my read on Jiffy considering he only showed up when his ass was on the line and is now nowhere to be found now that nobody is bothering him.

[farside22]

VOTE: alpaca

Farside just took a nosedive into scum territory for me again. Too much nitpicky garbage from her and it feels like she's only going for wagons because they're happening rather than because she believes in them. She even had an instance of having an issue with 'Jiffy only to ignore it and continue pursuing a wagon on me, because

???

That whole line of thinking seems disjointed and biased.
The GM wagon seems mediocre - lane's points don't seem strong (his whole bit about the PR claim not amounting to a read seems pretty flimsy) and I'm not going to vote there.
Alpaca and Jiffy are my other two choices.

I've talked about Alpaca several times and nothing has changed.
I'm still kind of unwilling to let go of my read on Jiffy considering he only showed up when his ass was on the line and is now nowhere to be found now that nobody is bothering him.

Oh the thing I called Hypocritical.
Yup I totally saw that and only saw it once.
Plus it's not a case it's more like omgus while flailing.

Just throwing a bunch of buzzwords together is literally nothing - my analysis is good and you're simply throwing words out in an attempt to not look like you're caught. Your bit on quotes isn't even good - you had a very similar issue with alpaca in yet you've said nothing about it nor taken into account our distrust of each other when discussing your reads. It's just a bunch of unnecessary busywork scum comes up with to not look like trash when they get told off.

Zzzzzzzzzzzz

[farside22]

Guys I don't want to frighten you but everyone voting Shinobi is a buzzwording scum.

Except the uncc'ed PR, we don't know why they're voting obvtown Shinobi.

Wait that was sarcasm.

Man I'm feeling dense.

I think Shinobi is hoping to sway one player away from him.
God knows showing proof that he hasn't done one once of a case on anyone should be enough.

[farside22]

SPARTAAAAA!

I mean Pagetop.
This is Pagetop.

VC 1.18

Shinobi

(6): Majiffy 833, Io 900, Farside22 961, JaeReed 985, Lane0168 987, AlpacaAlpaca 1117 ---

L-1

AlpacaAlpaca

(5): GoodMorning 876, Realeo 921, Dunnstral 1027, Shinobi 1043, Bins 1136

GoodMorning

(1): Gameplay506 1022

Not Voting

(0): Not a soul! =D

With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to hammer.

AlpacaAlpaca is on V/LA
The day will end on July 30th, 2016 at 10PM EST

(expired on 2016-07-30 22:00:00) (10PM EST July 30/16)

I FUCKING WROTE OUT MY READS AND CASES.
HOW DO YOU NOT SEE THEM?

That is not a case.

I'm not unvoting.

[farside22]

lol @ being L-1.

You people are a bunch of clowns.

Resigned scum

This is not the response of a town PR at L-1 less than 24 hours out from deadline.

A 10000000 times this.

[farside22]

Lane who did you rb?

I have Gm as sk
Alpaca/Jiffy scum team currently.

[farside22]

Lane if it's no one I mentioned just say no comment.

[farside22]

Well there is scum making sure no info is to be had this game day.

[farside22]

Yah!!!!
Go everyone