Open 648: Ari's Donner Party Mafia! Game Over! :O

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: cytheflyguy

[Dunnstral]

Holy moly cy is scum guys

[Dunnstral]

I'll actually start talking for this one ^

[Dunnstral]

I too enjoy purple

[Dunnstral]

Orange is cool too

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Realeo

[Dunnstral]

I have been in a situation where I town tunnel a guy that I really "hate".

VOTE: Realeo

It's not you. I'm not talking about you.

Oh don't worry, I didn't vote you for that

Also I wasn't associating that to me either...

[Dunnstral]

[v[Franky[/v]

[Dunnstral]

Everyone voting Cy should flip to franky

[Dunnstral]

[v[Franky[/v]

VOTE: Franky

Why?

Because I said so

[Dunnstral]

Because I said so

Is that all you have to share on your vote?

VOTE: Cy
3 pages in one night fk u
But this guy seems like a legit place to place a vote
Liking Realeo as town

Indeed
VOTE: cytheflyguy

lol

[Dunnstral]

[v[Franky[/v]

VOTE: Franky

Why?

Because I said so

What do you have to share Franky?

Franky: Why are you following gameplay?

I'll answer these after getting a look into why Dunnstral seems so sure I'm scum.

You can vote me in the meantime, I don't mind.

Not really, I'm not the one who displayed certainty. I don't actually even need to justify myself, but Dunnstral does. If you lot don't see that, you should review your way of looking at the game.

@far: Let me put it this way. The only possible way you will get any answers to any questions about this topic out of me is if you get them out of Dunnstral first.

Franky turned my randomish vote into something big and acts as if I had some big reason for my vote

I didn't, but now I feel good about it

[Dunnstral]

I think Franky's overblown reaction was scummy

[Dunnstral]

Because it was an overblown reaction?

[Dunnstral]

Yeah, you said that already.
I fail to see how that's outside his expected range or why it's overblown. Can you fill those two gaps in logic up for me?

Because I naked voted him basically

And he acted like I was "so sure" of my vote and overreacted and such

And so I'm keeping my vote on him

[Dunnstral]

shinobi I have no clue what you want from me I've explained it in a way that should be understandable and answers the question

[Dunnstral]

Are we just gunnar let Io skirt here

I have one vote on alpaca who is doing the same.
I'm good with that.

Pretty sure Alpaca does that as town regardless

[Dunnstral]

Are we just gunnar let Io skirt here

I have one vote on alpaca who is doing the same.
I'm good with that.

Pretty sure Alpaca does that as town regardless

links?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=66795
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=66713

[Dunnstral]

LOL

[Dunnstral]

You should be townreading gameplay

[Dunnstral]

Waiting for Jaereed to reveal that his reads list was upside down

[Dunnstral]

I should be #1 TOWN.

Catching up now. Inb4 scumread by Dunnstral.

What is this ganging up that's going on right now...

[Dunnstral]

Hey, guys! Haven't read anything yet because I just got back from out of town but I'm excited to play! Will catch up tomorrow.

I intentionally said nothing about this scummy post because I figured you were out of town anyway

[Dunnstral]

Dietrician please check Bins tonight.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Jaereed

[Dunnstral]

Dietrician please check Bins tonight.

I changed my mind, check Jae if he doesn't get lynched

[Dunnstral]

the day we learn Dunnstral's scumgame will be a good day

What is this supposed to mean

[Dunnstral]

the day we learn Dunnstral's scumgame will be a good day

What is this supposed to mean

because i meta everyone and how the heck do i meta someone with no scumgame?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=66795

I was scum here, it JUST ended

[Dunnstral]

OH DAYUM

nice perfect game

I'm about to sweep this one too



As town, sweeping mafia and serial killers and not the vig

[Dunnstral]

the day we learn Dunnstral's scumgame will be a good day

What is this supposed to mean

because i meta everyone and how the heck do i meta someone with no scumgame?

You've got no excuse now btw

From now on I am townstral

Unless you think be being mafia traitor makes it mean less

[Dunnstral]

OK. Want to explain you read on me, Jaereed?

[Dunnstral]

2-shot bulletproof odd-night commuter mafia

[Dunnstral]

I see no need to at this point in time.

It's pretty straightforward for anyone that wants to actually read the thread.

This isn't Jaereed as town

If he were town he'd be explaining everything and talking to me and trying to figure things out

[Dunnstral]

By the way Bins is town

[Dunnstral]

Read above - all I see is comments on him "overreacting" and I thought how he acted was relatively normal. I'm just not seeing the same overreaction you two are and I keep trying to figure out what it is you're seeing and why it matters. So far, I've figured out neither of these things.

Here's what I said:

[v[Franky[/v]

Everyone voting Cy should flip to franky

[v[Franky[/v]

VOTE: Franky

Why?

Because I said so

Because I said so

Is that all you have to share on your vote?

VOTE: Cy
3 pages in one night fk u
But this guy seems like a legit place to place a vote
Liking Realeo as town

Indeed
VOTE: cytheflyguy

lol

And here is his reaction:

Because I said so

Is that all you have to share on your vote?

You can ask me what I have to share if you're curious.

And I don't actually have enough faith in my vote to ask anyone to follow me.

What do you have to share Franky?

Franky: Why are you following gameplay?

I'll answer these after getting a look into why Dunnstral seems so sure I'm scum.

You can vote me in the meantime, I don't mind.

Not really, I'm not the one who displayed certainty. I don't actually even need to justify myself, but Dunnstral does. If you lot don't see that, you should review your way of looking at the game.

@far: Let me put it this way. The only possible way you will get any answers to any questions about this topic out of me is if you get them out of Dunnstral first.

And I'm saying it's an overreaction.

Since then he's done... nothing

VOTE: Franky

[Dunnstral]

Hello my name is Bins

[Dunnstral]

Why is JaeReed talking like Ranger

[Dunnstral]

Honestly after you posted those evidence quotes it just makes me more suspicious of you.

Which I was asked for like 4 times.

[Dunnstral]

How is it starting to look like a huge stretch now, as opposed to two and a half days ago when I made the case?

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstrall town? Maybe. Dunnstral SK? Maybe. Dunnstral mafia? I don't reckon.

Then don't vote me genius

[Dunnstral]

Realeo makes no sense to me

He basically said I'm probably not mafia to him but mysteriously there's a chance that I'm serial killer or town so I should be pushed anyway (Even though me not being mafia to him should probably make him push

elsewhere

)

I don't even know why he "suspects" ? me in the first place or why he gave a 24-hour vote notice

[Dunnstral]

"his arguments are bad"

Nobody even said that

Jaereed won't give a reason and realeo pretty much went on about how I'm probably not mafia, but I could totally be the sk but didn't have a real reason

[Dunnstral]

like i know im supposed to be good at this game but i think its about time i ask what NAI stands for because i can't fill it in with Not Anything Interesting each time i read it.

Not/non alignment indicative

[Dunnstral]

btw bins is scummy

[Dunnstral]

actually nvm let's get franky

[Dunnstral]

Do you believe his vote on me was anything more than OMGUS?

Do you think me "OMGUS" voting makes me more likely to be mafia?

It doesn't and you're just trying to throw shade, this isn't a town perspective

VOTE: Jaereed

Franky should be prodded and replaced

[Dunnstral]

Bins if you don't talk about me/Jaereed on me/franky ur getting tunneled

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Franky

So you agree on this lynch then?

[Dunnstral]

dammit too many townreads


let's go ranger since everyone is doing it

{Farside, CY}
{Realeo}

{gameplay}
{Alpaca, JaeReed}
{Dunnstral, Shinobi}

{Franky, Io, Majiffy}
4324325.

Why am I near the bottom?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Io

Probably mafia for real here, not like those bad townies

[Dunnstral]

(2) I looked at his meta, and honestly, the face that in his first game, he had full reads list does slightly bother me, and the fact he posts paragrahphs in his second also makes me feel uncertain about how high up he is with town...But now that I have read them, I do think more was needed to make those reads, and I just took Farsides word about it ^^;;

What game did I post paragraphs in?

[Dunnstral]

But I think this is the right time for Dunnstral to explain the shift from Cy->Franky.

Because Franky looked scummy and opportunistic and so I voted him

[Dunnstral]

So pretty much everyone I'm trying to solve but you voted me for it anyway

[Dunnstral]

I'm Disturbed by Bins as well, I do not think a vig will be shooting her however

[Dunnstral]

Like. I get it. I haven't done anything town. But what's not to like?

What's your read on IO?

[Dunnstral]

Is that votable

[Dunnstral]

Inb4 Jaereed comes in with "meta" on that fallout shelter game

[Dunnstral]

The main issue though? You haven't done a single pro town thing this whole game and have been making weak pushes for terrible reasons.

{Io, cytheflyguy, Franky}
{gameplay, Farside}
{Alpaca}
{Majiffy}
{Dunnstral}

1.

You had me as scum from PAGE ONE

[Dunnstral]

You haven't done a single pro town thing this whole game and have been making weak pushes for terrible reasons.

What happens if one of Io/Franky flips scum?

[Dunnstral]

Jae ur tunneled I think

You're trying to compare 3 day phase games with get a room to this on-site one

You should check out the Stack the deck game I linked earlier, at least the early game and see what I do

I flipped to Franky because he was scummy. He's now gone

5 days

without posting and you're acting like I never did anything with that

[Dunnstral]

Actually, this

might

be Jaereed's scum game

I'll let you guys know... at a later date when I sort that out better

VOTE: Bins

[Dunnstral]

You should check out the Stack the deck game I linked earlier, at least the early game and see what I do

I was the mafia traitor in this game

You haven't seen it yet but there was actually

very

little communication between me and my mafia partner in boombox mafia (they bussed me without saying anything )

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE: Bins

That was dumb actually I forgot about something


VOTE: Franky

[Dunnstral]

I'm ok voting either lane or io right now

[Dunnstral]

Here, have your quick meta case.

Spoiler:

This is Dunnstral's ISO (needs to be read from page 4 to page 1, bottom to top - alternatively you can find the whole game from there and read it from the start with context) from a game that just finished. Dunnstral flipped group scum with Aronis. This is why I believe Dunnstral here is group scum rather than serial killer. Whether that is with cy remains to be seen.

I'd also like Bins to take a look at that game.

Dunnstral trying to play clueless here on why I have such a strong scumread on him follows him flipping scum there. We had pretty much just finished lynching him. I'm not letting him get away with pulling the same dictation of what a town!Jae does and does not do when he knows that would be used against him.

He pulled the same attempts to appear innocent in the "I cannot be the one you're scumreading because I'm so town" manner that he is trying to pull here. He has never done this as town when I've played with him.

There is absolutely 0 chance of me wanting anything but a Dunnstral lynch today. I have played with both town and scum dunnstral and this is clearly the latter.

Io made solid analysis on a potential partnership with cy that I was thinking on. There's still a possibility of cy just being really enthusiastic newbtown, though. There is no possibility of dunnstral being any kind of town.

Many other things about his ISO and how it points to scum have been stated in thread. I can meta case on my phone but what I can't do is a full case on why I am scumreading him this game regardless of meta as I don't have access to a computer until Sunday night.

You started tunneling me from the beginning of the game sure of your meta

You're going to be disappointed

[Dunnstral]

Ok so I'm fine with voting lane.

[Dunnstral]

Lane0168 Replaces Franky, Effective Immediately!

Thank you for your swift response, Lane!

Don't really have time to catch up, anyone know why this happened?

Probably because he didn't post for 5 days?

[Dunnstral]

At this point I am ok with killing Lane AND Io and writing off jae as tunneled town

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: cytheflyguy

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: cytheflyguy

I would ask why the vote, but I guess it's along the lines of "sheeping" the vote bc god forbid I wasn't the first or second vote or gave a "valid reason" xDD

Unlike the other two, I'm voting for pressure sake (Idc if it didn't work for me last time, it has merit this time :T)

posts 462 sucks

[Dunnstral]

I just now realized lane claimed roleblocker

[Dunnstral]

Will second that that was a really bad time to claim and you weren't in immediate danger of being lynched

[Dunnstral]

YOU DIRTY TUNNELER

[Dunnstral]

DUNNELER

[Dunnstral]

In general a LOT of shifting reads but idk if that is a scumtell for him

It's the opposite actually

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: majiffy

wewlads is this guy scummy or what

[Dunnstral]

Bins please explain the reasoning behind that vote

[Dunnstral]

I don't know how much stock I put into that xD thing but it sounds legit so I should probably be voting there huh

interested to hear what cy has to say about it

[Dunnstral]

Bins why did you ignore my 614?

I geniunely want to know if you're town or reaction testing or what

[Dunnstral]

Shinobi was super analytical early on (the kind that's annoying tbh) and it feels as if he's fallen off in that hardcore recently

[Dunnstral]

I tunneled jaereed as scum in that other game so he could be trying to get revenge or something here but he could also be tunneled town and I'm leaning town

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: cytheflyguy

[Dunnstral]

All of early game? Just read his posts it's not a secret

[Dunnstral]

start from the very first pages

[Dunnstral]

Show me 2 posts of him analyzing anything. It should be easy to find something that isn't majiffy or alpaca being lackluster. Some real super analyzing. There isn't any

You're arguing over whether he was actually thinking about his stuff in depth or trying to appear busy

I wasn't saying either of that however

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Cy
3 pages in one night fk u
But this guy seems like a legit place to place a vote
Liking Realeo as town

Can you elaborate on any of these things?

Dunnstral, Farcry town

Would still like to lynch Io but will move to Frankly if the wagon doesn't kick up.

This seems a bit more apathetic than what I'm used to from you. Not a fan.

Idk Cy seems really awkward, fake and whatnot.

Can you elaborate on this a bit more? This answer doesn't particularly sate me.

Orange is cool too

I hear it's the new black

I hope you're proud of yourself.

Inwardly smiling.

Dunnstral, Farcry town

Would still like to lynch Io but will move to Frankly if the wagon doesn't kick up.

This seems a bit more apathetic than what I'm used to from you. Not a fan.

What you're used to from me?

Aggression.
Oomph.
Passion.

Here, you just seem kind of floaty and whatever about things. It bothers me.

[v[Franky[/v]

VOTE: Franky

Why?

Because I said so

What do you have to share Franky?

Franky: Why are you following gameplay?

I'll answer these after getting a look into why Dunnstral seems so sure I'm scum.

You can vote me in the meantime, I don't mind.

Not really, I'm not the one who displayed certainty. I don't actually even need to justify myself, but Dunnstral does. If you lot don't see that, you should review your way of looking at the game.

@far: Let me put it this way. The only possible way you will get any answers to any questions about this topic out of me is if you get them out of Dunnstral first.

Franky turned my randomish vote into something big and acts as if I had some big reason for my vote

I didn't, but now I feel good about it

Do you think that it's scummy to go after someone using nonexistent reasoning? I don't really follow this logic.

I think Franky's overblown reaction was scummy

Because?

Yeah, you said that already.
I fail to see how that's outside his expected range or why it's overblown. Can you fill those two gaps in logic up for me?

Yeah, you said that already.
I fail to see how that's outside his expected range or why it's overblown. Can you fill those two gaps in logic up for me?

Because I naked voted him basically

And he acted like I was "so sure" of my vote and overreacted and such

And so I'm keeping my vote on him

This doesn't really answer my question.

Yeah, you said that already.
I fail to see how that's outside his expected range or why it's overblown. Can you fill those two gaps in logic up for me?

I will try to fill in this because I am also bothered by the same thing.

Have you ever heard the phrase, "The innocent relax, The guilty shouts." I mean, it's classic scene where your mom accuses your dad cheating, then your dad shouts back at your mom saying, "You bitch! How dare you accuse me of cheating! We have been marrying for 25 years! Do you never believe in me?"

And it turns out the father is cheating.

When I poke cy, cy just relax. When Dunn poke Franky, Franky becomes dad.

Still seems like a stretch to me tbh - I just don't place much value in the "he's overreacting so he's scum" line of thought.
I'll pass, thanks.

[Dunnstral]

what just happened.........

nvm


Bins you stink you don't honestly think I'm mafia from "jaereed's case"

VOTE: Bins

[Dunnstral]

Please explain why you think I wouldn't have made those last two votes as town

[Dunnstral]

...?

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

[Dunnstral]

The meta stuff on Io made me not want to vote her anymore

[Dunnstral]

Cy's replace out wasn't cause of this game he's replacing out in all games

Thought he got mad or something it was weird timing

[Dunnstral]

not 667

[Dunnstral]

you claimed roleblocker

[Dunnstral]

[Dunnstral]

Right now the most likely sk in the game from my point of view is bins.

[Dunnstral]

Of course, you'd say that if you were a vig!

[Dunnstral]

*sk

whatever you are

[Dunnstral]

not a slip don't lynch me

[Dunnstral]

But I am pretty happy with my Bins vote.

I think Bins is town so I'm not happy with it

I don't want to lynch JaeTunnel either

[Dunnstral]

Cy's slot
Majiffy


Maybe alpaca I don't know if he's really done anything

[Dunnstral]

Probably not Alpaca actually

VOTE: Majiffy

[Dunnstral]

I really don't see bins town.
Dunn you want to explain the town read other than just using quotes?

not really

I feel as if this is bins as town based on what I've seen in a previous game (Peruvian nightclub mafia)

[Dunnstral]

Bins is that the girl from Phoenix Wright

it is isn't it




Game-wise Majiffy just now unvoting Lane is weird

[Dunnstral]

And really his scum hunting consists mostly of searching for the SK

Back this up with quotes please

[Dunnstral]

Maybe look harder because that is simply untrue

There is a total of one post (out of 106) you've quoted where I "sk hunt"

Please explain why you said that my scum hunting mainly consists of searching for the sk. I'll quote posts where I've been questioning others to overcome your gross misrepresentation:

Holy moly cy is scum guys

I'll actually start talking for this one ^

I have been in a situation where I town tunnel a guy that I really "hate".

VOTE: Realeo

It's not you. I'm not talking about you.

Oh don't worry, I didn't vote you for that

Also I wasn't associating that to me either...

[v[Franky[/v]

VOTE: Franky

Why?

Because I said so

What do you have to share Franky?

Franky: Why are you following gameplay?

I'll answer these after getting a look into why Dunnstral seems so sure I'm scum.

You can vote me in the meantime, I don't mind.

Not really, I'm not the one who displayed certainty. I don't actually even need to justify myself, but Dunnstral does. If you lot don't see that, you should review your way of looking at the game.

@far: Let me put it this way. The only possible way you will get any answers to any questions about this topic out of me is if you get them out of Dunnstral first.

Franky turned my randomish vote into something big and acts as if I had some big reason for my vote

I didn't, but now I feel good about it

I think Franky's overblown reaction was scummy

Because it was an overblown reaction?

Yeah, you said that already.
I fail to see how that's outside his expected range or why it's overblown. Can you fill those two gaps in logic up for me?

Because I naked voted him basically

And he acted like I was "so sure" of my vote and overreacted and such

And so I'm keeping my vote on him

Are we just gunnar let Io skirt here

I have one vote on alpaca who is doing the same.
I'm good with that.

Pretty sure Alpaca does that as town regardless

Hey, guys! Haven't read anything yet because I just got back from out of town but I'm excited to play! Will catch up tomorrow.

I intentionally said nothing about this scummy post because I figured you were out of town anyway

I see no need to at this point in time.

It's pretty straightforward for anyone that wants to actually read the thread.

This isn't Jaereed as town

If he were town he'd be explaining everything and talking to me and trying to figure things out

Read above - all I see is comments on him "overreacting" and I thought how he acted was relatively normal. I'm just not seeing the same overreaction you two are and I keep trying to figure out what it is you're seeing and why it matters. So far, I've figured out neither of these things.

Here's what I said:

[v[Franky[/v]

Everyone voting Cy should flip to franky

[v[Franky[/v]

VOTE: Franky

Why?

Because I said so

Because I said so

Is that all you have to share on your vote?

VOTE: Cy
3 pages in one night fk u
But this guy seems like a legit place to place a vote
Liking Realeo as town

Indeed
VOTE: cytheflyguy

lol

And here is his reaction:

Because I said so

Is that all you have to share on your vote?

You can ask me what I have to share if you're curious.

And I don't actually have enough faith in my vote to ask anyone to follow me.

What do you have to share Franky?

Franky: Why are you following gameplay?

I'll answer these after getting a look into why Dunnstral seems so sure I'm scum.

You can vote me in the meantime, I don't mind.

Not really, I'm not the one who displayed certainty. I don't actually even need to justify myself, but Dunnstral does. If you lot don't see that, you should review your way of looking at the game.

@far: Let me put it this way. The only possible way you will get any answers to any questions about this topic out of me is if you get them out of Dunnstral first.

And I'm saying it's an overreaction.

Since then he's done... nothing

VOTE: Franky

Realeo makes no sense to me

He basically said I'm probably not mafia to him but mysteriously there's a chance that I'm serial killer or town so I should be pushed anyway (Even though me not being mafia to him should probably make him push

elsewhere

)

I don't even know why he "suspects" ? me in the first place or why he gave a 24-hour vote notice

Do you believe his vote on me was anything more than OMGUS?

Do you think me "OMGUS" voting makes me more likely to be mafia?

It doesn't and you're just trying to throw shade, this isn't a town perspective

VOTE: Jaereed

Franky should be prodded and replaced

Bins if you don't talk about me/Jaereed on me/franky ur getting tunneled

VOTE: Franky

So you agree on this lynch then?

dammit too many townreads


let's go ranger since everyone is doing it

{Farside, CY}
{Realeo}

{gameplay}
{Alpaca, JaeReed}
{Dunnstral, Shinobi}

{Franky, Io, Majiffy}
4324325.

Why am I near the bottom?

VOTE: Io

Probably mafia for real here, not like those bad townies

But I think this is the right time for Dunnstral to explain the shift from Cy->Franky.

Because Franky looked scummy and opportunistic and so I voted him

I'm Disturbed by Bins as well, I do not think a vig will be shooting her however

Like. I get it. I haven't done anything town. But what's not to like?

What's your read on IO?

Jae ur tunneled I think

You're trying to compare 3 day phase games with get a room to this on-site one

You should check out the Stack the deck game I linked earlier, at least the early game and see what I do

I flipped to Franky because he was scummy. He's now gone

5 days

without posting and you're acting like I never did anything with that

Actually, this

might

be Jaereed's scum game

I'll let you guys know... at a later date when I sort that out better

VOTE: Bins

UNVOTE: Bins

That was dumb actually I forgot about something


VOTE: Franky

At this point I am ok with killing Lane AND Io and writing off jae as tunneled town

VOTE: cytheflyguy

I would ask why the vote, but I guess it's along the lines of "sheeping" the vote bc god forbid I wasn't the first or second vote or gave a "valid reason" xDD

Unlike the other two, I'm voting for pressure sake (Idc if it didn't work for me last time, it has merit this time :T)

posts 462 sucks

Bins please explain the reasoning behind that vote

I don't know how much stock I put into that xD thing but it sounds legit so I should probably be voting there huh

interested to hear what cy has to say about it

Bins why did you ignore my 614?

I geniunely want to know if you're town or reaction testing or what

Shinobi was super analytical early on (the kind that's annoying tbh) and it feels as if he's fallen off in that hardcore recently

Show me 2 posts of him analyzing anything. It should be easy to find something that isn't majiffy or alpaca being lackluster. Some real super analyzing. There isn't any

You're arguing over whether he was actually thinking about his stuff in depth or trying to appear busy

I wasn't saying either of that however

VOTE: Cy
3 pages in one night fk u
But this guy seems like a legit place to place a vote
Liking Realeo as town

Can you elaborate on any of these things?

Dunnstral, Farcry town

Would still like to lynch Io but will move to Frankly if the wagon doesn't kick up.

This seems a bit more apathetic than what I'm used to from you. Not a fan.

Idk Cy seems really awkward, fake and whatnot.

Can you elaborate on this a bit more? This answer doesn't particularly sate me.

Orange is cool too

I hear it's the new black

I hope you're proud of yourself.

Inwardly smiling.

Dunnstral, Farcry town

Would still like to lynch Io but will move to Frankly if the wagon doesn't kick up.

This seems a bit more apathetic than what I'm used to from you. Not a fan.

What you're used to from me?

Aggression.
Oomph.
Passion.

Here, you just seem kind of floaty and whatever about things. It bothers me.

[v[Franky[/v]

VOTE: Franky

Why?

Because I said so

What do you have to share Franky?

Franky: Why are you following gameplay?

I'll answer these after getting a look into why Dunnstral seems so sure I'm scum.

You can vote me in the meantime, I don't mind.

Not really, I'm not the one who displayed certainty. I don't actually even need to justify myself, but Dunnstral does. If you lot don't see that, you should review your way of looking at the game.

@far: Let me put it this way. The only possible way you will get any answers to any questions about this topic out of me is if you get them out of Dunnstral first.

Franky turned my randomish vote into something big and acts as if I had some big reason for my vote

I didn't, but now I feel good about it

Do you think that it's scummy to go after someone using nonexistent reasoning? I don't really follow this logic.

I think Franky's overblown reaction was scummy

Because?

Yeah, you said that already.
I fail to see how that's outside his expected range or why it's overblown. Can you fill those two gaps in logic up for me?

Yeah, you said that already.
I fail to see how that's outside his expected range or why it's overblown. Can you fill those two gaps in logic up for me?

Because I naked voted him basically

And he acted like I was "so sure" of my vote and overreacted and such

And so I'm keeping my vote on him

This doesn't really answer my question.

Yeah, you said that already.
I fail to see how that's outside his expected range or why it's overblown. Can you fill those two gaps in logic up for me?

I will try to fill in this because I am also bothered by the same thing.

Have you ever heard the phrase, "The innocent relax, The guilty shouts." I mean, it's classic scene where your mom accuses your dad cheating, then your dad shouts back at your mom saying, "You bitch! How dare you accuse me of cheating! We have been marrying for 25 years! Do you never believe in me?"

And it turns out the father is cheating.

When I poke cy, cy just relax. When Dunn poke Franky, Franky becomes dad.

Still seems like a stretch to me tbh - I just don't place much value in the "he's overreacting so he's scum" line of thought.
I'll pass, thanks.

what just happened.........

nvm


Bins you stink you don't honestly think I'm mafia from "jaereed's case"

VOTE: Bins

Please explain why you think I wouldn't have made those last two votes as town

The meta stuff on Io made me not want to vote her anymore

Right now the most likely sk in the game from my point of view is bins.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Io

[Dunnstral]

AlpacaAlpaca has been vote parked since post 11?

Uhhh ok

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Majiffy
His profile gif scares me

Hasn't really talked about Majiffy since this post

Are you still voting him because his profile gif scares you?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Alpaca

[Dunnstral]

I'm not voting for you right now though

[Dunnstral]

Why Shinobi?

[Dunnstral]

"Doesn't seem to be playing for town"

Solid reasoning


You pretty much have no reasoning to assume he'd be sk over mafia either




OK

[Dunnstral]

I said OK to you elaborating in 3-4 hours

[Dunnstral]

Dunn seems a bit skitzo.

Initially didn't want Alpaca because he's kind of always like this

I reread his iso and think he's actually scummy and his vote park on majiffy is bad

Does that help?

[Dunnstral]

I could also go for a Shinobi lynch over Alpaca, as I believe he's a strong contender for Dunn's partner.

Deciding what other people to vote based on "who my partner might be" while I'm still alive is a horrible idea and actually makes me wonder if this is indeed a town tunnel or if this is payback for boombox mafia

[Dunnstral]

I could also go for a Shinobi lynch over Alpaca, as I believe he's a strong contender for Dunn's partner.

Deciding what other people to vote based on "who my partner might be" while I'm still alive is a horrible idea and actually makes me wonder if this is indeed a town tunnel or if this is payback for boombox mafia

Recently all my strong early reads have been right. I'm not wrong here. I know this. You are scum. The fact that I can't get you lynched is irrelevant to that fact, so I'm just gunning for your partners instead.

Whispers in the woods I nailed the scumteam early and flipped off them because people didn't agree with me.
My first newbie I thought kage was scummy but town didn't agree with me and so I flipped off him.
I thought you were scum in boombox and allowed myself to second guess that read and you were left alive way longer than you should have been.

If I have a strong scumread I am

not

letting go of it anymore. You haven't done anything to make me think "oh crap he's actually town" either.

But you are wrong here and you've been tunneled on me from the beginning because ??? reasons and won't let it go

[Dunnstral]

Jaereed how surprised would you be if you saw me flip town?

[Dunnstral]

Cool.
I'm good with voting Alpaca if I have to tbh - I still don't think highly of him and I'm kinda cool with seeing him go. The only reason I haven't switched is because I think that Majiffy is the more likely serial killer between the two of them.

...why serial killer

[Dunnstral]

Jaereed how surprised would you be if you saw me flip town?

You won't. I promise you if you did I'd feel awful. But you won't.

[Dunnstral]

Lane you're being dumb right now

[Dunnstral]

lane has a point actually

...No he does not

[Dunnstral]

Io is abandoning my wagon to vote for someone who has less support for a lynch than me

[Dunnstral]

What is dumb about what I said? Why can't you see it as a possibility?

You're omgusing as a claimed pr when you and your predecessor were actually scummy and you claimed prematurely

[Dunnstral]

Io is abandoning my wagon to vote for someone who has less support for a lynch than me

Does that mean lo is your partner then? Or what.

So you're willing to vote io?

Lane you're being dumb right now

OK? Can you explain why she doesn't have a read on me? And won't give one?

That's not what I was talking about?

[Dunnstral]

JaeTunnel

[Dunnstral]

You can still explain why gm doesn't have a read on me or what you think about that dunn

You claimed roleblocker so you're not mafia is his read on you

[Dunnstral]

if i vote good morning will people sheep me because im a voice of reason in these dark times

I will

[Dunnstral]

Actually you should sheep me and good morning won't be lynched today

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Good Morning

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: AlpacaAlpaca

[Dunnstral]

Why does shinobi have 5 votes?

[Dunnstral]

This is a nondiscussion and I'm shocked that we're still talking about it.

[Dunnstral]

You've played multiple games with me but vote me because my reads are changing fast?

Pretty sure Alpaca is survivalistic scum here and he's willing to vote every counter wagon to him

[Dunnstral]

I am very much against lynching shinobi today

[Dunnstral]

3-4 votes on shinobi are because he's "my partner" or for you you'd vote him to save yourself.

[Dunnstral]

Also this "counter wagon" is actally a vanity wagon since I am a lone voter

Don't play dumb

[Dunnstral]

Plus if alpaca was indeed scum why not vote Shinobi?

...?

Because shinobi is not alpaca?

[Dunnstral]

Everyones trying to lynch shinobi for "being a mafia partner to all these other unflipped guys"

[Dunnstral]

There are 4 people who have expressed an interest in lynching me. Stop dumbtelling.

A shinobi lynch over alpaca would be absolutely horrible

[Dunnstral]

Everyones trying to lynch shinobi for "being a mafia partner to all these other unflipped guys"

This also has nothing to do with my case on him

two people out of 6.

[Dunnstral]

How does that help us get a lynch in the next 11 hours

[Dunnstral]

Uhhh yeah it's plurality right

I'll switch to Alpaca if we can't get Good Morning up there

I need you to see how scummy alpaca is.

[Dunnstral]

lol @ being L-1.

You people are a bunch of clowns.

Head clown lane wants blood

[Dunnstral]

I am stronly against alpaca living to tomorrow.

Shinobi is town

[Dunnstral]

Zzz

[Dunnstral]

Jaereed you've really got nothimg to say? "Oh I tunneled a scum counterwagon because I think a third person is scum"

[Dunnstral]

Nah

Take a moment to admire my scumhunting - I've rooted out a member of the mafia.

[Dunnstral]

Why would I be bussing as scum right now

[Dunnstral]

Jaereed.

[Dunnstral]

Farside and Jaereed plummet in my reads. Please vig one of them or Alpaca

[Dunnstral]

Wow, everybody who was scummy was just scum

[Dunnstral]

Wow, everybody who was scummy was just scum and roleblocker

[Dunnstral]

Why the fuck didn't the SK kill RB. Goddamn

Because that's on the mafia. Why would the sk kill roleblocker when he can't be roleblocked, when he can catch vig/mafia

[Dunnstral]

sk isn't on the same team as the mafia

roleblocker highly likely to not roleblock same person twice