Open 528: The Room of DOOM! GAME OVER

[notscience]

DP I don't think fuzzynut's going to show so I'ma just play as me

Just a heads up

Redelphic probably has the worst reads list I've seen in a while

Come on redelphic, lets 1v1

Me and you

right now scumfuck

[notscience]

it's pretty obvious

His reasons for scumreading are forced as fuck

And the light chainsaw is always nice

[notscience]

I must be blind because I don't see notscience on the player list or replacement list. Can someone tell me what the hell is going on?

Doesn't this look like scum panicking "oh shit someone came in and pegged me who the fuck is this guy"

Oh, that makes more sense.

What doesn't make any sense is why you would even try and defend that shit play Blue Bonnet. A 2 letter first post and then a random vote on the town as fuck hiraki, it's hysterical that you have the gull to call me scum.

And this, he trieds to equate content to scumhunting ability while ultimately ignoring my points. "Oh you have two posts lol u suck nub"

VOTE: Red

[notscience]

EBWOP-

Also, his reaction was extremely over the roof towards a naked vote that

the person it was on

had not even responded yet.

[notscience]

Lmfao you aren't even TRYING to engage in a 1v1. I'm perfectly ready to, but that doesn't mean I won't push your lynch hard as fuck. And now, you're misrepping saying I'm not.

And now you're coming up with bullshit reasons.

You're definately scum, I'm debating Hiraki still.

[notscience]

"How could anyone consider this person to be scum"

Is not a townie thought.

[notscience]

Doesn't this look like scum panicking "oh shit someone came in and pegged me who the fuck is this guy"

Yeah it does, except it's the other way around.

Really? Quote it, scumfuck

I know Mutley and this is how he plays. I don't know VA and I don't understand why you would replace in only to completely ignore game discussion.

I love how you are all totally misreading my reads, I should have never posted them; they are how I take notes and I shouldn't have expected you to understand them.

I love how you scumslipped and now are whining about it

[notscience]

Brian, your vote would be much better served on Redelphic.

[notscience]

He's doing EVERYTHING in the scum-caught book.

"I'm not doing it, you are!"

"Um who is this guy"

"Ugh my life sox coz people found out im scumz"

[notscience]

You're lying, that was totally the reason you vote jumped.[/s

What do you think Red's alignment says of Hirakis?

[notscience]

The initial chainsaw bugged me, but his response to the accusation of a chainsaw says that.

I'm still wary.

[notscience]

DP I don't think fuzzynut's going to show so I'ma just play as me

Just a heads up

Redelphic probably has the worst reads list I've seen in a while

Come on redelphic, lets 1v1

Me and you

right now scumfuck

[notscience]

It's a terrible reads list.

The nulls had less posts than one of his biggest scumreads.

His townreads were very buddy-like.

And his scumreads were shit.

I'm trying to engage him in a 1v1 and he has yet to vote me or push Yami.

[notscience]

Nah Hiraki just came out of a game with me where I refused to hammer the last scum because I had them as strong town

I call bullshit because I found scum that he acknowledges, however.

[notscience]

His playstyle is really abrasive, which was weird to me given how so many people townread him in this game versus back in our game where he wasn't.

[notscience]

It's bugging me based on the amount of townreading here.

[notscience]

"Getting" townreads doesn't really mean anything.

Scum basically find people they can easily make a case for being town/know they can't push a ML on.

[notscience]

Some scum have a meta of putting their scumbuddies in certain places of reads (the first that comes to mind is RachMarie always puts hers in her townreads). So, all reads are worth looking over.

[notscience]

Their townreads are important regardless.

Everything someone does can be analyzed.

[notscience]

Ohshit I didn't realize it was multiball

[notscience]

Dunno.

[notscience]

I hope you realize I only skimmed the thread up until I nakedvoted/caught redscum

[notscience]

Nah I read your comment because i thought it was towards me

[notscience]

If I've "pushed words into his mouth all the way to the market" why are you townreading me?

[notscience]

BEcause I don't get why people were townreading him

But meh

[notscience]

Oh, it doesn't

It pinged my gut because his behaviour got him a lot of scumreads in our past games together

And I like to proddodge

[notscience]

But proddodging apparently catches scum

I need to do it more often

[notscience]

But proddodging apparently catches scum

I need to do it more often

Or you could, um, generate content?

I'm sorry, prod-dodging is annoying and should be done less. You have a better chance of catching scum participating, as far as I'm concerned.

Here's a member of the other scumteam.

It's clear you haven't read what I've been doing and yet you're passing me off as "not producing content."

2/4, where's the other 2.

[notscience]

But proddodging apparently catches scum

I need to do it more often

Or you could, um, generate content?

I'm sorry, prod-dodging is annoying and should be done less. You have a better chance of catching scum participating, as far as I'm concerned.

Here's a member of the other scumteam.

It's clear you haven't read what I've been doing and yet you're passing me off as "not producing content."

2/4, where's the other 2.

Are you seriously telling me that you only posting to prod-dodge somehow makes me scum? Until fairly recently, you have contributed very little to this thread in its formative stages and now are acting as though that is a legitimate strategy! We are already drowning in inactivity and then you say, "Well, prod-dodging worked this time, why don't I keep doing it?" That is a terrible idea. We need to be encouraging activity, not proposing it as a strategy. Not a Town strategy, at least...

Personally, I think you have too big of an ego, and are giving yourself too much credit. If Red is scum, your lack of content until recently didn't tell us that, his reaction to Brian and you and reads did. And if you are proposing that you were intentionally only prod-dodging early on to get scum to slip up, I just don't buy that.

And here's the thing

That's not why I'm scumreading you, I'm scumreading you for the scolding condescension. It's clear you don't comprehend a joke. If you haven't been able to tell, I'm posting actively now, yet feel the need to say that. It looks like scum trying to find any tidbit to call out without saying "they are scum." Hell, you just said it's "not a town strategy" without saying if it is a scum strategy or not, essentially leaving it open-ended to come back to.

Personally, I really don't care what you think of me. Here's a secret- "um idk maybe they r scumz" does not get scum lynched. His reaction to my randomshit (which I actually use in other games to get reactions if you metacheck me) is entirely up for grabs.

So, yeah.

Notice how he's not even TRYING to engage in a 1v1, moreso whines about it.

Nice try though, you're next up for lynching.

[notscience]

lol, newbies trying to call me bad town

Hey guys, who wants to notice some correlation

I say that skelda is next scum to die

and now I'm apparently voteworthy NOW over redelphic

makes sense amirite

[notscience]

Alright, so with Red, I liked his243. It seemed a bit like a genuinely frustrated town to me. At the moment think with him and notscience, one is scum and one a bad town. And, admittedly, the way notscience jumped the gun on Red being scum might be a scum taking advantage of a player who is inexperienced and gives an easy lynch. Or maybe they are both scum different factions, that's a definite possibility. But, notscience exaggerating how scummy Red, along with the fact that no on currently has their vote on notscience, makes me think that VOTE: notscience might be a good idea for now. If he flips town, though, we are totally lynching Red. And I'm not opposed to a Red lynch either, but at the moment, between Hiraki's ideas on notscience and notscience's pushing so hard, I think notscience at least deserves a vote.

Ebwop because I forgot shiz

1) Hiraki said I was doing this in a townie way and Skeld is trying to pass it off like he said it was scummy
2) This looks like lining up lynches (which means that both are on seperate scumteams)
3) He's finding an excuse to votepark while still saying "nah dat lead wagon is p cool mang"

Hiraki am I still putting words into others mouths, because that seems obv as fuck

[notscience]

Alright, so with Red, I liked his243. It seemed a bit like a genuinely frustrated town to me. At the moment think with him and notscience, one is scum and one a bad town. And, admittedly, the way notscience jumped the gun on Red being scum might be a scum taking advantage of a player who is inexperienced and gives an easy lynch. Or maybe they are both scum different factions, that's a definite possibility. But, notscience exaggerating how scummy Red, along with the fact that no on currently has their vote on notscience, makes me think that VOTE: notscience might be a good idea for now. If he flips town, though, we are totally lynching Red. And I'm not opposed to a Red lynch either, but at the moment, between Hiraki's ideas on notscience and notscience's pushing so hard, I think notscience at least deserves a vote.

Ebwop because I forgot shiz

1) Hiraki said I was doing this in a townie way and Skeld is trying to pass it off like he said it was scummy
2) This looks like lining up lynches (which means that both are on seperate scumteams)
3) He's finding an excuse to votepark while still saying "nah dat lead wagon is p cool mang"

Hiraki am I still putting words into others mouths, because that seems obv as fuck

[notscience]

notscience, suspecting someone because they don't get a joke is bad, town or scum.

You didn't get it, not him.

Hiraki may have meant it in a town way, but to me it seems pretty damn scummy.

Why?

I don't even know what voteparking or lining up a lynch is. I could make educated guesses, but I'd rather you explain what exactly I'm doing.

Voteparking- You're going to leave your vote on me for after we lynch red so you can return it and say "well it doesnt clean you". And the "IF HES TOWN BIT WE LYNCH NS" and vice versa is the lining up lynches bit.

And notscience, I'm not voting you because you are threatening me. I'm voting you because Red was getting all of the heat and you were somehow being ignored. Plus you were trying to take all the credit for the Red potential lynch, maybe you are both scum!

Then bring the heat. Don't waste my time with a boring vote because "omg uneven sides"

[notscience]

Alright then! First, you have a completely random, unexplained vote on Hiraki, (you've sine explained it unsatisfactorily) and then Red comes along and says some fishy things, and then you scream, "We caught one, and all because of my lurking early on!" Well, shucks. Stop the "OMG I is scumz" posts, stop misrepresenting, and stop being so presumptuous.

1) Didn't I go into the joking behind this? I'm paraphrasing what you're saying (which you conveniently don't call a misrep until this post) and idrc how presumptuous I am. I've been TOWNREAD for selfvoting numerous times in my past.

And you DID force your ideas of Red's scummishness onto him. Whether Hiraki thinks you are scum or not, his case holds water. Just read 256. Forcing words down people's throats is scummy, and you should know better.

And? He's scum. I present it as his scum-mindset. Forcing words down peoples throat is something EVERYONE does. "You should know better" nice condescension.

I don't care whether Red is scum or not in my case against you. He likely is, but I think you are from a different faction and you aren't getting off free while Red pays for the confrontation. You had a role in that, and don't forget it!

See: Lining up lynches and voteparking. Your "case" against me isn't even a case, so I advise you just sit there quietly until I have the time to 1v1 you after we lynch scumred.

[notscience]

Are (/were) you scumreading Hiraki because others are (/were) not?

Yep.

[notscience]

Skelda, I've been caught as scum for not being a scumspect.

Him not being on peoples scumdars when he was before as town bugs me.

[notscience]

Skelda, I've been caught as scum for not being a scumspect.

Um what?

Newbie 1392, DP calls me out for "not being scumread" when usually I am scumread hardcore. I was scum.

Him not being on peoples scumdars when he was before as town bugs me.

So, what you are saying is, having another player read as town bothers you? That isn't scummy at all.

And here you try to misconstrue my words. I said that peoples REACTIONS to him are different in THIS GAME than the game WHERE HE WAS TOWN. If reactions to a person are different in two seperate games, one where he was town and one where he was unknown, it can be assumed there is something different or people have played with them before. I doubt any of you have played with Hiraki before. Therefore, something is probably different (eg, role pm).

[notscience]

I'm more interested in Red right now stubbs.

[notscience]

GOD DAMNIT HIRAKI LETS FIGHT

IM GOING TO MISCONSTRUE EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING YOU SAY NOW

But regardless, he all of a sudden shifted off because he knew he got fucked up.

3/4 Scum.

[notscience]

Karn and Stubbs

We have 3/4 of the scum

Dunno about brian

but 3/4

[notscience]

...

You could go back a page and find them lol

I've been blatantly obvious about my scumreads.

That looks like feigned scumhunting.

[notscience]

That looks like feigned scumhunting.

You can't be serious.

Au contraire.

GOD DAMNIT HIRAKI LETS FIGHT

IM GOING TO MISCONSTRUE EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING YOU SAY NOW

But regardless, he all of a sudden shifted off because he knew he got fucked up.

3/4 Scum.

I' m really disliking how certain you are with your reads. You are like: we have found 3/4s of the scum, when in reality the chances of you being correct on everything are so slim. You can't be that sure, it isn't possible.

I now I actually suspicious of MetalSonic after that Hiraki case. Hiraki's posts were so clearly manipulated by him, and, while town certainly misrep as well, I'm undecided on him.

I think the votes on VA confuse me. I voted for her earlier, before I realized she was Saki. But Saki seems known for that sort of thing, so I don't think an experienced player voting her at this point makes much sense.

This means I pegged both her and her scumbuddy. "YOu can't be that certain who the scum are!"

Like really lol

[notscience]

>worse

How could I be a paschendale alt when we were in a game together

I've given good reasons for all 3 being scum, how does that make me dumb town.

[notscience]

Mnem is Red's scumbuddy and MS is Skelda's.

That was easy.

[notscience]

Really nice read progression there, scum.

Wow, all 4 on day one.

[notscience]

And see, here comes the discredits and AtE.

Typical caught-scum move.

[notscience]

Also that entire post sounded forced as fuck

[notscience]

I'd rather lynch scum then PL, tyvm

[notscience]

Everyone pile on redscum.

Now.

[notscience]

Yo, im here yami.

Red is scum. Vote him.

[notscience]

Silly MD, he can't be scum because you, skelda, MS, and Red are all scum!

[notscience]

Silly MD, he can't be scum because you, skelda, MS, and Red are all scum!

[notscience]

just as much as you all do.

This is a scumclaim folks.

[notscience]

Alright, so at first I thought that, while Red's read list was by no means impressive, it was certainly better than doing what VA and Mut are doing. But, it is clear that his reaction is at the very least extremely poor town play, but more likely scum. Now, I'm not going to jump the gun and tell him that he need not post, but for right now, I feel a vote from me not on Redelphic would be a bit of a waste, so, with that in mind...

VOTE: Redelphic If you are town, I will be mildly surprised, but I'd start acting like it because right now your lynch is looming, even if we do have ages to decide.

And as for notscience and Brian Skies, I think you are both town, although if Red flips town (unlikely), I might wind up feeling differently. Actually, I'm probably going to feel differently at some point since I'm always second-guessing myself in these games, but as for right now based on this argument you both seem to have the best interest of the town in mind.

And Hiraki, given that you 180'd your read on me over the course of one post, it seems calculated and not necessarily scummy. At least, it isn't you contradicting yourself.

P-Edit: notscience, I'd like to know that as well.

PP-Edit: How does people (plural) townreading him make him scum? Even the scum only have one partner?

Alright, so with Red, I liked his243. It seemed a bit like a genuinely frustrated town to me. At the moment think with him and notscience, one is scum and one a bad town. And, admittedly, the way notscience jumped the gun on Red being scum might be a scum taking advantage of a player who is inexperienced and gives an easy lynch. Or maybe they are both scum different factions, that's a definite possibility. But, notscience exaggerating how scummy Red, along with the fact that no on currently has their vote on notscience, makes me think that VOTE: notscience might be a good idea for now. If he flips town, though, we are totally lynching Red. And I'm not opposed to a Red lynch either, but at the moment, between Hiraki's ideas on notscience and notscience's pushing so hard, I think notscience at least deserves a vote.

And then her current post

lololol

[notscience]

Not really, seeing as I'm townreading you.

But okay.

You've just given scum a reason to leave me alive tonight <3

[notscience]

Intent to hammer the scumfuck

[notscience]

Hiraki- Hiraki has this game in the palm of his hand. But really, the people who try to get Hiraki lynched are probably scum. He seems to know what he's doing, anyway. And no one seems to see him as a genuine suspect.

So much buddying so little time

Where's your fakeclaim?

[notscience]

um

So

I'll be in school then

[notscience]

So scumfucks, you decided to leave me alive

BAD IDEA

VOTE: Redelphic

[notscience]

lol'd at red trying to start wifom about kills.

[notscience]

It was 9 am ESTish

I calculated based on the countdown to a time when I'd be in school.

Regardless, I'm obvtown as fuck and Redelphic is obvscum.

[notscience]

Yami ISO me or Hiraki for a case.

[notscience]

He's been in my scumreads since D1 lol

[notscience]

Red/MD are the last two scumz so vote one of them plox

[notscience]

Actually, I don't like Red as a partner for Skelda or Dessew right now.

UNVOTE: Red

Yami is town. Hiraki is town. Red is town.
Kubbs is probably town.
notscience is getting lots of townreads o.O


At this point, I'm fine with flipping {VA, Luigi} if they can't prove to me they're town.

Elaborate.

I could go for VA.

[notscience]

Hiraki I'm on the same page as you atm, you can start crying now

Now people need to get their asses in here.

[notscience]

Brian, Red is scum lol

[notscience]

Cool, we get more incessant fluff and scumposting!

Yay!

[notscience]

For those who aren't caught up- Redelphic is scum.

Vote him.

[notscience]

Without a fucking doubt.

town apathy is going to lose us the fucking game.

[notscience]

^ 8 players.

Not a fan of wifom either.

I was going to suggest masons claim but that would just give us three confirmed with a 1 in 5 chance of hitting scum. I think we should hold off on the masons claiming unless it's to avoid one of them being lynched.

Smart move by scum no killing. If they had killed town...masons could have claimed and we could have gone to lylo with 1 mason remaining in a final 3. Now we're potentially looking at 1 mason remaining in a final 4.

So scum haven't lost yet.

I don't think mafia bus their lone partner on D1. That leaves notscience and Titus off the Skelda lynch. They would be my top two picks atm with the wifom leaning me to Titus.

VOTE: Titus

Also...if mafia did bus D1...Brian would be my guess.

Lmfao, what the fuck is this shit.

Spoiler alert- I helped push BOTH scums wagons. Nice try.

Hiraki, I'd go for VA with you. What do you think of Titus's entry into today?

VOTE: VA

[notscience]

>has a leading wagon
>does a prod dodge

Unvote, Vote: Red

VA dies tomorrow though. No exceptions.

[notscience]

Push a ml on me fitz.

I dare you.

[notscience]

NS hiraki townbloc OP

Sheep us to victory

[notscience]

I don't like Titus's reaction to the NK.

[notscience]

Ok. Now obviously you are making me want to vote you. I won't in case this is town flailing. Why am I scum?

Because your role pm reads scum

[notscience]

How about you selfvote after your failed NK gambit?

[notscience]

Because your "gambit" sounded forced as fuck, and you're in my top 3 scumpicks while doing something I've seen scum do (buddy someone post-hammer or close to)

[notscience]

1) Yup. I figure you weren't caught up enough and didn't want to risk killing someone who was obvtown.

2) VA because Hiraki says so

You because your slot has been way too under the radar and your reaction coming into today was forced as fuck

And MD because he's trying to up-play the derp card

[notscience]

notscience dies tomorrow, if there is a tomorrow. I can confirm that he is not a mason.

Great fucking play

Tell the scum who not to kill in our townbloc why don't you

[notscience]

Maybe I know that and I'm trying to wifom scum more

Pedit- dw I got this guise

VOTE: VA

[notscience]

Maybe I'm really the Doctor

[notscience]

Hiraki do I have to vote you

[notscience]

Push a ml on me fitz.

I dare you.

And why would I try to push a wagon on you?

Because you

dare

me? ...stupid

Yep.

How about you selfvote after your failed NK gambit?

There's one scum left....if you seriously think Titus is scum...then wrf are you voting VA?

Hiraki said to.

That was a fakehammer? You don't say

[notscience]

QTs plox

NS so gud

[notscience]

No it wasn't, MS died

[notscience]

I was pretty terrible in this game and apologize to my scum partners, but I didn't feel like trying to salvage it after seeing the kind of play VA and Notscience were getting away with. It just wasn't fun (I do not mean this towards you DP) and offered no incentive to try. I will not be playing with them in the near future if I can help it.

I really thought Brian was scum tbh.

You're welcome town for having Dessew served up to you on a plate. :/

I didn't get away with jack shit this game, this was me being tame