Open 514: Monks and Masons in Serona - GAME OVER

[Sakura Hana]

Hmm, then I guess i did something wrong during that 1v1 with Saki, I wouldn't think you'd be like this about me being scum, It seems that i'm getting worse at playing mafia instead of better, maybe i should stop doing crazy reaction tests D1...

[Sakura Hana]

[quote="In post 2542, notscience"][/quote]
The thing is that I'm town, and idk for the life of me why Mara would STILL think I'm scum even after death, so obviously I did something wrong, and idk what it was...

[Sakura Hana]

lol screwed up quote.

[Sakura Hana]

Mara: I'm trying new methods to find scum, which lately always get me mislynched and is starting to frustrate me to no end, I hope at least in the post-game you can tell me what I did wrong to make you think i'm scum that badly.

[Sakura Hana]

Hmm I guess i'll have to wait until the post-game to talk with Mara about my play then.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh boy, i can already see that this isn't going to be a good game for town

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura Hana Scum

sigh... i really can't believe you're thinking this

[Sakura Hana]

i've never seen mara lynched so no idea.

[Sakura Hana]

Wisdom gets to me more because he already did it once and made me self-hammer

[Sakura Hana]

Besides, the pressure from Saki or you combined isn't even as close as the pressure from Wisdom.

But well guess you already set me up for dying D2, so w/e...

[Sakura Hana]

Bert: Did you have a 1v1 with GM about whether she's scum or not?

Otherwise I might sheep Nacho on GM.

[Sakura Hana]

Wait was it Nacho or mollie who said GM was scum

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Mala
Didn't Wisdom say I was scum too?

[Sakura Hana]

Mala is wolf if she's scum, i think Rach claimed Mason with her?

[Sakura Hana]

Oh wait, it was the opposite, she's Monk with Rach i think so if she's scum she's mafia.

[Sakura Hana]

Regroup with who?

[Sakura Hana]

Sheeping Nacho/Mollie here


VOTE: Sakura

I'll sheep Nacho/Mollie too

VOTE: goodmorning

[Sakura Hana]

they should've killed both Saki and Wisdom, that way we wouldn't have spam.

[Sakura Hana]

Interesting scenario, let's work with that, why?

[Sakura Hana]

I thought we sorted out his tunnel on me already? Also the fact i'm still keeping him in blacklist is because A) He flipped town and B) I read a game of his where his death tunneling caused the loss of town.

[Sakura Hana]

his death tunneling caused the loss of town.

so no need for scum to kill him.

Exactly.

[Sakura Hana]

I hope you aren't forgetting this is multiball, right?

[Sakura Hana]

Whether it was clear he was town or scum, either side has a reason to shoot him because he can be either, What i find it funny is that they didn't shoot the exact same person (I was expecting both of them to shoot Nacho at the same time tbh)

[Sakura Hana]

Whether it was clear he was town or scum, either side has a reason to shoot him because he can be either, What i find it funny is that they didn't shoot the exact same person (I was expecting both of them to shoot Nacho at the same time tbh)

"either side has a reason to shoot him because he can be either"
That goes for anyone.

Why would Wisdom be a priority target? Over Nachomollie/Masons/AND Monks?

'cause yer scum, Sakura.

Nope, If i were scum i'd shoot Nacho to frame GM, not shoot Wisdom to... frame myself? I don't see how Wisdom dying over the night makes me scum tbh...
Nacho's still the strongest player, as I said since he was town i'd expect both sides to be shooting him, the fact that Wisdom died too means someone wants to frame me, who else is alive that thought I was scum?

[Sakura Hana]

Saki wanted a reason for Wisdom's death, I gave him one.

[Sakura Hana]

Moar votes for GM please!

[Sakura Hana]

So GM got hammered?

[Sakura Hana]

1 wolf, 2 mafia, 3 town remaining. Not liking these odds.

[Sakura Hana]

There would only be a mafiaslip if I was one tho, so it doesn't stand.

[Sakura Hana]

Except if we lynch mafia, we have a high chance mafia and wolf will kill each other tonight.

[Sakura Hana]

Saki's def. not wolf, if Saki was wolf he'd have shot me already because he thinks I'm mafia.

[Sakura Hana]

After I was trying to explain it I realized that I was thinking in reverse, so nevermind.

[Sakura Hana]

Why the heck does this setup have 0% town win ratio? (According to the wiki) that's unfair ;_;

[Sakura Hana]

Well I got a town read on TIP and Saki, which means 1 out of the other 4 is town... hmm

[Sakura Hana]

I also doubt digi is town, specially considering how 1 out of cirno, Rach, mala and digi is town.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: diginova
Time to start getting involved!

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: diginova
Time to start getting involved!

Didn't you just call me mafia during Day 2?.. Now you are 'okay' with sheeping my word?

As i said there's only 1 town among you 4 imo, and you could still be opposing teams.

[Sakura Hana]

I agreed that diginova hadn't done much, until I voted him that is

[Sakura Hana]

i agreed, he was scum, not which scum group was he in. I think?

[Sakura Hana]

Problem 1: You put yourself in your reads list.
Problem 2: You didnt explain your reads.
Problem 3: I don't see how you're reading both TIP and me as scumteam.
Problem 4: notscience is already dead.
Problem 5: Rach isn't there.

Do I need to go on?

[Sakura Hana]

why did you look for problems only after i asked for them

When was my last post before that one?

[Sakura Hana]

I'm rarely active on weekends, if anything.

[Sakura Hana]

Fun Fact: I haven't seen you guys do any scum hunting aside from D1, fun fact I didn't see Mala scumhunt EVEN on D1.

[Sakura Hana]

What are your reasons for suspecting me then?

[Sakura Hana]

A+ Reasons
VOTE: Mala

[Sakura Hana]

No, you just proved that i'm right in the fact that you haven't done any scumhunting, you're doing the same thing Mara did, which is paint me scum, and you're sheeping her on that.

[Sakura Hana]

Then can I see this meta you're talking about?

[Sakura Hana]

Aditionally you said that GM distanced herself from Digi's slot, which is part of her scum meta, wouldn't that mean I'm her partner? which means I would be a wolf? Oh but wait! that wouldn't make sense with how she's been acusing me!

[Sakura Hana]

wouldn't that mean I'm her partner, considering she's been busing me?

EBWODP:

[Sakura Hana]

gm bussed me harder than she bussd you

Regardless, point is, GM didnt bus/distance with diginova/Marquis as much as she did with others like me or you.

[Sakura Hana]

If we lynch town today is it game over for town?

[Sakura Hana]

So I guess self-hammering is out of the question.

[Sakura Hana]

wth TIP? If you think i'm scum why do you care if i self-hammer?

[Sakura Hana]

I know

you're scum

What.

1. I'm not scum.

2. Even if I was, you'd basically be declaring both of us being on the same team.

[Sakura Hana]

*shrug*
If town is going to believe these BS reasons that people have for lynching me, I've already done all I could and this town cannot be saved anyway
VOTE: Sakura Hana

*me leaves thread*

[Sakura Hana]

If i knew how to save myself, i'd have already done so, as I mentioned the reasons for people voting me are BS, and if town ends up believing them then I can't really fight them because they are BS, and town will lose.

[Sakura Hana]

And help me lynch this scum and then I'll sort you out through next day if you still live.

I did that, all I got was digi voting me for more BS reasons, I've lost my will to fight already.

[Sakura Hana]

Well guess at least i should just take my vote back
VOTE: Digi
Anyway, lynch me or not, your choice, I've lost my will to fight after all this BS that started with GM's so called "slip"

[Sakura Hana]

It's because she is scum trying to save herself.

So? that doesnt make me town, this is multiball after all. There's nothing i can do, i can't scumhunt because scum hunts the other team, I can't lynch scum because sucm also wants to lynch the other team. It's frigging pointless...

[Sakura Hana]

We handed it to you on a silver platter with the constant self-votes

So you think that makes me part of town?

[Sakura Hana]

I've given up because I got no idea of how to fight back when people use BS reasoning and any possible town motivation there may be is immediately dismissed by "But scum on the other team have also reason to do that", I don't have the level of experience than you do, and this is all I can do for myself, if they want to lynch me then go ahead...

This is my first and probably last multiball game I join, too frustrating for someone like me.

Also I wont be here for most of the night, I may be here before I sleep, if not then I'll be here tomorrow.

[Sakura Hana]

"Sakura's insistence on the article early-game reeks of trying to get towncred" - See Town cred.
"Her immediate "Replace me because Wisdom came in" seems to be entirely an AtE, and the posts afterwards back it up." - His style was annoying me, and I didn't wanna deal with him, only stayed because the other players wanted me here.
"why didn't she do the same when Saki was tunneling her earlier?" - Saki's tunneling is silly, and i didnt feel the same kind of pressure that I did from Wisdom's tunneling.
"Her self-meta in 1237 is also towncred fishing" - More town cred?
"why rely on meta instead of how you're acting currently unless you have something to hide?" - Is my only option against conf bias without even a full meta scan.
My read on Wisdom kept jumping around I give you that, but I don't see how that's scummy since i couldnt get a clear reasoning behind Wisdom's motivation, nevertheless his interactions were very frustrating.
"Sakura's D1 scumreads were unerringly all town." - GM was scum, and Mala hasn't flipped yet... nor have you.

Town cred, Town cred, Town cred, I guess Honey Bee was right that everyone uses it to discredit any town possibility off anyone.

[Sakura Hana]

No changes since the last vote coun

+t

Fixed, thanks! and off to sleep - f

[Sakura Hana]

The thing i'm not liking about multiball is that it gives anyone enough reason to be confbias against someone.

[Sakura Hana]

Yeah, the conf bias in this game is strong...

Never again... joining multiball.

[Sakura Hana]

Oops. Sorry! >.<

I'll get to this after I wake up. (About to go to bed right now)

*tumbleweed*
That's quite a long sleep.

[Sakura Hana]

well guess I was wrong about TIP

[Sakura Hana]

You are never accurate about me :<

[Sakura Hana]

btw ffery you forgot to change the title to (GAME OVER)

[Sakura Hana]

Cabd, you stalker <3

[Sakura Hana]

I know that's why i called you stalker

[Sakura Hana]

And the 0% town winrate is preserved... the end