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[CherryDrPepper]

Or i could still be a VT and this is a teatrice to draw a NK away from a PR!

here's to hoping

[CherryDrPepper]

How does one person town reading someone who you think is scum make that person scummy? You aren't omniscient Titus

[CherryDrPepper]

The only thing that can save me at this point is there being a doctor and saki roleblocking their roleblocker.

Titus just went OMGUS like Saki lol...

[CherryDrPepper]

I love how the thread went full on WTF after my WIFOM, well there's risks with everything, and instead of drawing a NK away from me im just drawing attention towards me...

P-Edit: no, that mean i'd get prodded!

[CherryDrPepper]

We are just too active!

[CherryDrPepper]

It seems like Saki is buddying with JMO here.

I could say the same thing about you and Varsoon.

[CherryDrPepper]

Saki I thought I already did but I will later tonight, when I get home from class

[CherryDrPepper]

So Flench, who of the 2 do you think should die today?

[CherryDrPepper]

Yes but you fail to consider people who wanted to lynch Varsoon when he claimed Roleblocker. We only want him lynched now for the retraction

[CherryDrPepper]

Thats pretty much what made Sakura convince me to vote him

[CherryDrPepper]

Titus progress through the day
Buddies with Varsoon trying to lynch Saki > Buddies with Varsoon trying to lynch Saki after his claim > While we speculate setup i drop a breadcrumb of my role > Titus starts distancing with Varsoon > Titus buddies with Varsoon again and attacks JMO > I mention that I breadcrumbed something about my role, then realize that i just did something stupid and decide to avoid commenting on it > Titus starts suspecting me (See he's already aiming to unmask another PR) > I start to throw WIFOM to scum so that scum doesnt know wheter to NK/RB me or not > Titus starts to attack me.

Hey folks, Titus had already unmasked Saki, so obv he was going after me, Noticing how he unmasked Saki I was paranoid ever since he FoS'd me and figured he'd be scum, so I tried throwing WIFOM to escape the NK, and suddenly he now wants me lynched.

[CherryDrPepper]

It's kinda weird seeing myself posting via P-Edit...

[CherryDrPepper]

So you're gonna force me to claim like you did with Saki? Why are you rolefishing so much?

[CherryDrPepper]

Not a misrep, prove me that you haven't been going after the PRs.

Saki threatens to claim at L-1 > You jump on him to make him claim
Varsoon CC's and you keep ging after Saki, then you go after Varsoon.
Varsoon retracts and you go after JMO.
I mention i'm a PR and you go after me.

[CherryDrPepper]

Then why are you painting a PR as scum hmmm?

Answer: Rolefishing.

[CherryDrPepper]

Wow almost 2000 posts on D1...

[CherryDrPepper]

Titus, if he wanted to claim he'd have done it before you voted him, because I did tell him he could claim without being at L-1, you wanted to FORCE him to play.

[CherryDrPepper]

*claim

[CherryDrPepper]

Both of them posts were within like 10 minutes of each other.

[CherryDrPepper]

What made you change your mind so quickly?

Inb4 Pasche is gonna be mad at the ammount of new posts.

[CherryDrPepper]

@TV: I'd rather you call this head Sakura or Hana instead of Cherry (even tho Sakura is Cherry Blossom), Anyway, i breadcrumbed my PR for later use, but when Titus started FoSing me, and considering i thought he was scum, it made me think she had picked up on my breadcrumb and wanted to drive me to L-1 to make me claim just like she did with Saki, realizing my mistake i tried to WIFOM scum into thinking it was a tactic to draw a NK towards me or to draw NK away from me, and in the middle of that, my other head said I was a PR, there's no use in hiding that fact now tho. And Titus is obviously going towards unmasking me still...

DP already apologized for it because he didnt understand my plan, but it's also my first time as hydra and i'd probably should have let him know what my plan was, don't think too badly of him, we both made mistakes in this, even if it's known that we are a PR, it's still useful for town, it's also a reminder that it's 2 heads in a town slot.

At least however, I know that Titus is going against every single PR that appears, that makes me want him dead, but I still think Varsoon's pretty scummy I'm debating whether of the 2 to vote, i'm certain that if 1 flips scum, there's very high chance the other will too.

P-Edit: Well let me know which questions you want answered. I probably missed them with all this crazyness.

[CherryDrPepper]

2 things to correct from you:
1) Varsoon is at L-2 not at L-1 so technically you can't hammer atm.
2) Saki's a he.

Bulbazak, what do you think of Flench's case on Titus and me accusing him of rolefishing?

[CherryDrPepper]

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[CherryDrPepper]

It's not checkmate until a team wins, and i'm pretty sure that when/if i flip town will see you from what you are, or have you already forgotten that my other head did a PRslip?

[CherryDrPepper]

Cherry, you dodging my questions? You've got two heads, at least one of you should be able to answer questions directed at them.

Couple things.... The DrPepper head should just pack it up and go home, rampant fail. Have you played mafia before DrPepper? Cherry, you seem smart but you've got to lose the growth. If you two can't pull together as a team, you're a bit of a liability/danger... Like claiming a PR on D1 for no reason? Good god. What's wrong with people? Why?

Oh wait... Scumballs do that a lot here don't they. Varsoon setup his breadcrumb for a PR claim early on. You did the same thing! So cute. Varsoons play was so rock solid and good for the town that you two decided it'd be smart to give it a shot yourselves? What's next? A back down to VT claim, apology to the town? "Sorry guys, the slow head DrPepper thought he could false claim a PR to identify scum role fishers. We didn't find any scum, but we did learn that Pasche is town." Nice work kids.

W. T. F.

Get your head in the game Cherry. Get DrPeppers head out of it.

@Titus - What's wrong with you today? Somebody steal your login/p-word? Titus today is not the same Titus that we had before...

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Yes because you have been soooooooioo fucking useful right? /sarcasm
I misunderstood the plan, yes im stupid. Telling me I dont know how to play mafia? Fuck off. You wanted tolynch a claimed PR on day 1 like thats really fucking smart

On that note Varsoon, there is such a thing called pre game where scum can plan and failed bussing which is what happened.

I am seriously losing my fucking patience with you people

[CherryDrPepper]

There's a hydra QT just so u know.

Saki, technically i could say that at this point, but there's also dumb townies in here.

[CherryDrPepper]

It's obvious that Varsoon and Titus are now gonna run me up to L-1 to force me to claim, maybe i should claim right now and save everyone 30 more pages of them driving a wagon against me.

[CherryDrPepper]

Wow Varsoon. Any person on this site who drew scum at least once in their whole careers know that scum can chat in the QT before the fucking game starts. Are you using wvery little thing I say just because you want me dead that bad?

Fuck this maybe we should Sakura

[CherryDrPepper]

You know, unless the all mighty ever knowing Tunnel Vision tells me idk how to play mafia again.

[CherryDrPepper]

That's the smartest thing i've seen you say so far Saki, thanks, i shouldn't let scum have their way.

[CherryDrPepper]

The only reason I did that because I thought Sakura was hinting our role and accidentally said our alignment. So i thought I'd clear things up for us. Now I was at fault for not consulting her on this, as is she for not telling me, but you telling us we're scummy for it is utter bull shit

I've had about 4 games as scum, the QT is always open before the game starts. Which is why last to confirm is an RVS vote, because of pre game talk

[CherryDrPepper]

Play the Saki card coming from the guy who literally cc'd him. Hypocrite

[CherryDrPepper]

"You have two mafia buddies"

If we were scum, you say we have 2 buddies. How certain are you there are 3 scum?

[CherryDrPepper]

mfw you scumslipped...

[CherryDrPepper]

Thats the point. How certain are you there are 3 mafia? Two mafia buddies on one scum read indicate you are sure there is 3 mafia and not 2 mafia with 1 serial killer.

You said you arent certain, but you say youre certain we are mafia and we have 2 buddies. So you are sure there are 3 mafia. Slipmuch scum?

[CherryDrPepper]

Titus: There's no certainty on the ammout of mafia aligned players in this setup, you just claimed you know there's 3.

[CherryDrPepper]

Stop excusing the really obvious scum slip

[CherryDrPepper]

Its weird how both of us didnt talk about it in our qt yet both noticed the slip

[CherryDrPepper]

I say that I think it's better off to lynch Varsoon first, since he CC'd RB even in joke, there's a high chance he's the actual roleblocker.

[CherryDrPepper]

scum roleblocker*

[CherryDrPepper]

You're so dense.
Read the setup and re-read what Titus wrote and you'd realize how much you're squirming right now.

That coming from the person who didn't read it? what makes you think i didnt?

[CherryDrPepper]

Read the set up? Coming from Varsoon. Wow.

[CherryDrPepper]

You know what's funny, the one that scumslipped was titus and the one defending the slip is Varsoon

I think we just hit jackpot here guys!

How do you know it's TTT?

why can't it be TTTTT or others?

[CherryDrPepper]

let's see IC = M, roleblocker = B, so MBTTTTT that's like... 2 mafia?

[CherryDrPepper]

and that's even assuming saki didnt lie about roleblocker, but i dont think he did.

[CherryDrPepper]

Yes but theres an equal chance for just 3 scum roles. You know something, Titus.

And this feels like your scum game

[CherryDrPepper]

Yes but the certainty of there being 3 mafia is the main point Varsoon.

Stop defending and start bussing bro

[CherryDrPepper]

why can't it be 5T? oh right, i claimed a PR, there's MBXTTTT so that's why...

So either you believe my PR, or you scumslipped.

[CherryDrPepper]

Youre completely forgetting 2 maf 1 serial killer.

[CherryDrPepper]

Saki, bith Varsoon and Titus are scum, i dont care which order

[CherryDrPepper]

Saki, nice catch' i'd say Bulls Eye!

I do care which order, i rather the RB gets lynched that way the other wont interfere with us.

[CherryDrPepper]

Flench you have to admit theres something fishy about it. This time even Saki agrees with us.

[CherryDrPepper]

I can confirm it tonight unless i'm roleblocked, that ok with you?!

[CherryDrPepper]

Yeah imma drop it, your scum slip is too obvious and i trust the others will do the right choice.

[CherryDrPepper]

Yay for me misclicking on a BBC button

[CherryDrPepper]

Drop it, i already claimed i'm a town PR, is town seriously this dumb to run up another PR to L-1 to make them claim? SERIOUSLY?!

[CherryDrPepper]

Btw, i am

certain

there's a roleblocker on the mafia team, make of that what you will.

P-Edit: I'm not desperate to claim, lol, i'm just loling at how dumb this whole situation is, if Varsoon and Titus arent scum together then they are the must dumb town i've seen outing all the PRs on D1.

[CherryDrPepper]

You outed yourself.....

That was my other head who didn't understand my plan, and so far all you know is im a town PR, scum doesn't know if im a dangerous PR to them or not yet.

[CherryDrPepper]

Varsoon, you are not thinking logically, you need to analyse motivation.

I still haven't heard anyone tell me why it is scum motivated to draw attention to myself away from Varsoon and jmo, which was unintentional to begin with.

[CherryDrPepper]

Why would i make an outburst regarding whether i'm a pr or not when i'm not even near close to danger of being lynched?

[CherryDrPepper]

In retrospect, I really shouldn't have started throwing WIFOM, I got paranoid with how Titus made Saki claim and was FoSing me, and this in turn ended up in my other head claiming we were a PR, I just hope Town doesn't lose because of my stupidity...

I still think Titus knowing the ammount of mafia is a scumslip tho...

[CherryDrPepper]

Idc what you think Titus, if scum could lie their scumslips out then we'd never lynch scum.

[CherryDrPepper]

Finally this thread is moving somewhere.

[CherryDrPepper]

Titus, and who should I look at if Varsoon flips scum.

[CherryDrPepper]

I was already thinking of looking at xiao, but for other reasons, I still dont know why a town would act the way Varsoon did, so I don't see anything weird with the wagon on him, if anything i'd look at any people that jumped out of his wagon at critical momments because they probably were mafia who already knew he would flip town, and jumped out for town cred.

[CherryDrPepper]

Actually if he flips town i'd think you're town.

[CherryDrPepper]

If Varsoon is town, the people advocating a lynch one than the other strategy between Saki and Varsoon need to be looked at, because then it's likely they're both town.

Can you clarify this to me? did you mean that we should look at people outside of the ones advocating for a Saki or Varsoon lynch?

[CherryDrPepper]

I'm not liking this, Titus doesn't care whether he's looked at like scum if Varsoon flips scum, that's like he's setting up to say "I told you so" tomorrow, when he was advocating a Varsoon lynch until the first intent to hammer.

[CherryDrPepper]

I disagree. Titus pressures hard, I agree. But blaming him for the claims I don't agree with.

Who's we??

Titus is also the person who conveniently jumped off Varsoon's wagon after he's been wanting him dead and then he's been broadcasting that he's town.

If this doesn't smell "He will flip town you'll see" I don't know what does.

I'd rather lynch Titus than Varsoon at this point, but it seems like we won't get a lynch on Titus today.

[CherryDrPepper]

How the heck did i enter p-edit with my own post o_o

[CherryDrPepper]

It was somewhere after me trying to WIFOM scum on whether i was a PR or not, my other head came and claimed PR :<

[CherryDrPepper]

So what does that have to do with Titus?

He went after me when my head claimed that we were a PR.
He went after Saki when Saki said he'd claim if voted further.
I'm pretty sure i've already mentioned all this somewhere.

[CherryDrPepper]

Ah yeah here you go Stubbs

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[CherryDrPepper]

Was that a hammer?

[CherryDrPepper]

Ah no nvm it wasnt

[CherryDrPepper]

I think jmo is at L-2 or something.

P-Edit: Yeah, but jmo was at L-4 before that.

[CherryDrPepper]

Check the VC at the top of page 84.

[CherryDrPepper]

Since pasche was voting Varsoon that means both are at L-2 atm...

[CherryDrPepper]

Claim "PR", what's the use of this?

That's the worst claim I've ever seen and Titus is right to question it.

Saki was pressured by a lot of people. Why is this all on Titus? I think I was one of the only ones who had Saki as town.
Anyway, I'm not voting Titus today.

The fact that we are, and that my other head said it, my tactic was to confuse scum because i had a feeling they picked on my breadcrumb so i started throwing WIFOM of whether i was a PR or not.

[CherryDrPepper]

But my head screwed that up, he already apologized for it tho, and i also should have informed him in the hydra QT.

[CherryDrPepper]

He lives on the other side of the world, so more than likely, when it's night for me.

[CherryDrPepper]

I thought you wanted to look into me

[CherryDrPepper]

Ejem, excuse me but Varsoon is scummier than JMO, JMO's tunneling causes reactions and people to take stances, and it's not anywhere near like Saki's or Wisdom's tunneling (which i hate) I'm guessing he has stick to that because he got a scummy reaction from Varsoon somewhere along the line.

Additionally, he HAS looked at other players, he's just a bit less cooperative in terms of providing reasoning, which to some extent I agree, the fact that Varsoon has garnered this many votes is no mere coincidence.

If it was a policy lynch, he'd either be already dead, or not many people would be on that wagon.

[CherryDrPepper]

And I guess as i was writing that i forgot to mention why I agree, I believe sometimes telling why you're pursuing someone will cause them to either stop doing it, or to flat out reject and call you out for it (it has happened quite too many times to me ;_;), hence i can understand to some extent jmo's sentiment in his pursuit.

Titus still makes me feel uneasy.

[CherryDrPepper]

This game feels lonelier now.

[CherryDrPepper]

I'm getting at that we've gone in a 600 or so post circle; back to the two L-2 wagons, with me, you, and Bulbazak off the main wagons.

With the difference that i'm in danger tonight tho.... so basically all that happened was that i got exposed.

[CherryDrPepper]

Oh wait, that's what titus wanted all along.

[CherryDrPepper]

I'll drop it when you (you as in Varsoon and Titus) admit you're just going after me to make me claim the actual role. I am very aware i screwed myself up back then but there's still no reason to be wanting to make me claim D1.

[CherryDrPepper]

2. JMO hasn't done any scum hunting this game/has solely tunneled me.

That's funny that actually looks like Saki's playstyle (and Wisdom's... *hate face*) , but obviously only JMO is scum.

[CherryDrPepper]

The big difference is when he's town, he gets mad at town and tries to whip them into shape with several good, concise points and he only really complains when he's at L-1 or lynched.

The funny thing is that this is what he did, he started yelling and insulting.

[CherryDrPepper]

I did say i'd prefer a titus lynch over Varsoon's if we can agree on lynching her, because i'd rather not let the end without a lynch.

[CherryDrPepper]

So basically too scummy to be scum?

[CherryDrPepper]

Who knows, maybe the fact that i'm so focused on saying i'm a PR is to draw a NK away from the other PRs (lol more WIFOM). The thing i dont like is that Titus has been manipulating town from the get go.

P-Edit: Oriole here's my answer.
UNVOTE:
Im starting to get doubts on Varsoon and i still think JMO is town can we all agree on getting Titus today? (The unvote is to prevent ninja hammers)

[CherryDrPepper]

wanting to lynch between Saki, Titus, and I

What if Titus is scum trying to buddy you? you must look at motivation from all angles. As I mentioned earlier, Titus has managed to manipulate town and making us attack each other, haven't you seen that?

[CherryDrPepper]

Truth be said, it is impossible to know whether i'm a PR or not at this point in the game, but scum might be paranoid of me and roleblock me anyways, or attempt to roleblock saki to ensure their kill goes through.

oriole: I'm quite sold on your Stubbs case, but you still haven't commented on why he's better than Titus... Titus has been pretty

subtle

after all.

[CherryDrPepper]

Yeah oriole, that Stubbs wagon looks promising.
VOTE: Stubbs

[CherryDrPepper]

Stubbs been coasting the game, I also want to find out more about him.

@Varsoon: Please dont try to interfere with my plan, thanks

@Xiao: Meet saki's playstyle... Deathtunnel!

[CherryDrPepper]

Remove all the spam and we're not even close.

[CherryDrPepper]

inb4 Stubbs OMGUS on Oriole.

[CherryDrPepper]

Fuck this shit. I come back to read and I'm on 84 of 92. 8 damn pages? Guess they are full of shit. Il read later.

They are full of a Stubbs wagon.

[CherryDrPepper]

@Flench: You haven't done enough of it, and the hunting you've done so far reflects majority sensibilities. Trust me, you're not nearly as high on my scum-list as Cherry/JMO.

So my huge post accusing Titus was done with the majority?

Yet you're voting jmo.

[CherryDrPepper]

Ah screw it, im getting tired of waiting

Daykill: Titus

[CherryDrPepper]

Yeah, i was reaction testing, now i have a feeling Xiao is town.

[CherryDrPepper]

Ah, I can't keep track of all the possible roles in this set up.

I wanted to get more reactions from it, but Titus spoiled the fun too soon. Your reaction was townish tho, so i'm glad you're town.

[CherryDrPepper]

Ah, I can't keep track of all the possible roles in this set up.

I wanted to get more reactions from it, but Titus spoiled the fun too soon. Your reaction was townish tho, so i'm glad you're town.

You used something impossible as a method of gauging reactions? O.o

Well excuse me! im still new at these kind of reaction tests, at least be glad i got a good reaction out of it. There's possible vigs and 1-shot vigs in this setup, i was hoping people would remember them wrong and thought the 1shot was a 1shot dayvig and react accordingly.

[CherryDrPepper]

Glad to be such a piece of entertainment for you, but the fluff posting ended like 50 pages ago.

[CherryDrPepper]

Well i knew my crazy playstyle combined with DP would be fun, too bad it's not gonna end well for us and for town

[CherryDrPepper]

Go ahead and lynch me if you want, im starting to lose interest in this game anyways because town's being so dumb that no one's gonna believe my claim anyways, and my claim will make me dead tonight, so yeah im dead either way.

[CherryDrPepper]

Oh well since im technically dead already i'll claim and you'll see why i was so paranoid
I'm Town vigilante.
That's why i knew for certain there's 1 scum roleblocker MVVXXXXX
So i knew i'd be the target for a roleblock if scum knew my PR. And im most probably gonna be roleblocked and shot tonight.

Decide whether to believe or not, that's your choice.

[CherryDrPepper]

Cherry, what the fuck?

Because i am stupid, I didn't breadcrumb, I PRslipped, when i realized it i started getting paranoid, that one post with setup speculation i only speculated at possibilities including a vig, it was too obvious i knew about the existance of a vig but TOTALLY ignored the other possible roles, i got paranoid and scared, and i started throwing WIFOM around... and that made me look scummy... It's def. over for me, scum's just gonna roleblock me so i cant even take a potshot at trying to hit one before i die.

And in case i get lynched before I even get to post again, here are my current reads:

Scum: Titus, Stubbs.
Null: JMO, bulb.
Town: Varsoon, Flench, oriole, Xiao.

Hope i didn't forget anyone, but i really need to go to sleep now.

If i'm dead when i wake up, it was nice playing with you guys and good luck town.

[CherryDrPepper]

Well at least i feel more relieved now that I did that.

Sorry the paranoia was too big and i broke down after Pasche's vote.

And as expected people aren't going to believe me, yeah keep it like that Town, just lynch me today then, i'm getting tired of you pointing fingers apparently every single person in here is scummy, isn't that funny?

Saki and me point fingers to Titus.
Varsoon and Titus point fingers to me and JMO
oriole and me points fingers to Stubbs
I think TV and Bulv point fingers to Varsoon (i forgot)
sooo amongst this all... where's Dys?

I think scum has managed to globally confuse town, regardless of who it is.

P-Edit: @Titus: That is the plan. But now i'm most certainly gonna be roleblocked unless you're scum, if you're town then scum wont care and let you die.
Our initial plan was that if Varsoon flipped scum, shoot you and if he flipped Town shoot Xiao, but now i think Xiao is town for his reaction towards my fake daykill, and I think you're scum regardless of Varsoon's alignment.

P-Edit x2: @Varsoon: I knew you wont believe me then why dont you vote me and lynch me so you can figure out and end this fricken spiral im getting tired of anyways?

P-Edit 3: FUCK THIS SHIT!
VOTE: Cherry
JUST LYNCH ME ALREADY IM FREAKING TIRED OF ALL OF YOU!

[CherryDrPepper]

Cherry you do know that Titus suggesting a quickwagon was to draw you out and quickhammer.

Yeah so? once I flip they will all go to Titus and Varsoon anyway.

@Titus: Yeah i know you already planned to roleblock me.

[CherryDrPepper]

@Saki: Their plan is to lynch town today and disprove me during the night so they can lynch me tomorrow, so I'm dying today so they can all see them from what they really are tomorrow and we give town less mislynches, it's a sacrifice for the town.

[CherryDrPepper]

@Saki: Just trust me and vote me.

[CherryDrPepper]

This is not a nightless game. The mafia cannot have a plan to like this because there's no way to forsee a PR claiming day 1.

What does that have to do with anything?, scum knows there's a scum roleblocker, i know there's a scum roleblocker, it's easy to devise such a plan, and you're staying off my wagon because that was your plan all along, so you can lynch town (jmo) and me tomorrow.

Your plan is so fricken clear as water at this point. Otherwise why did you jump off my wagon eh? If im a fricken SK then your job is to lynch me... or perhaps you already know im gonna be RB'd anyway.

Saki: if im not lynched today roleblock Titus, i have a feeling he's the scum roleblocker.

[CherryDrPepper]

Why is it any worse than letting scum roleblock me tonight so they can lynch me tomorrow?

[CherryDrPepper]

Ok fine
UNVOTE:
Here we go
VOTE: Varsoon

[CherryDrPepper]

How is that a hammer i think he's at L-1 again.

[CherryDrPepper]

Oh F- i think i did

[CherryDrPepper]

So are you town or scum.

[CherryDrPepper]

Wait didnt saki change his vote somewhere?

So i'm not scum and im insane?

[CherryDrPepper]

Well regardless of what you flip, im certainly vig'ing Titus tonight, he's the one that's been stringing all this up.

[CherryDrPepper]

Tho i've seen scum insisting they are town even during twilight to confuse town.

Oh well, im certainly going to be blocked tonight

Saki: Hope you hit scum right with your roleblock... one of the 4 people mentioned by Bulb may be the roleblocker (i'm still not convinced on titus being SK isntead of maf)

[CherryDrPepper]

Great.
I got lynched by 4 people who aren't even a fucking part of this game.

Better than being lynched because people dont believe your PR claim... oh wait that's what you did anyway.

[CherryDrPepper]

And i'm the Vig, and your lynch is proof that you didn't do the correct thing, and if i'm lynched tomorrow it will also be because of all this play that drove me paranoid and then town will lose...

[CherryDrPepper]

I had already half-resigned, it was bublazak's post that gave me hope.

Anyway as i said regardless of what you flip im shooting Titus tonight.

[CherryDrPepper]

Why the freak do you think he's town!

[CherryDrPepper]

Then if it's not Titus who would you suggest i shoot (inb4 jmo)

[CherryDrPepper]

If you flip town then yes I would listen.

[CherryDrPepper]

Someone that has had to defend himself from attacks from town can discern better who's most likely the scum than someone that's been confirmed from the start and just needs to watch from the coastlines anyways.

[CherryDrPepper]

Just give us your reads already, that way it will be better for me and the other PRs if existant to make a decission.

[CherryDrPepper]

Only scum doesnt want to give readlists after dead because that would hint to their partners... ok

[CherryDrPepper]

I already said, if you flip town i'll def. care, otherwise, i'll also care because it'll be hints to finding your partners, so that's why you don't wanna drop a reads list?

[CherryDrPepper]

Thanks

[CherryDrPepper]

My parting words is that my other head wants to shoot Titus, but I may pick someone from your pool of "I want this guy dead" if you flip town.

[CherryDrPepper]

Before the thread is locked let me get my 2 cents in

1. Sakura I know you self vote a lot but consult me on it
2. I misclaimed cause I thought thats what Sakura was trying to do
3. Varsoon, youre VT? Well fucking act like one. That derpshit move you did was the reason we are in this shit. If youre town, I can argue your shit was even more anti town than us
4. Titus, what? If were vog, we'll most likely kill you. If we apmaf/sk we have to kill you? Lolwhat? Anyway you call us out for that slip we BOTH saw and yet you call other people for non slips? If e do live and are not blocked you are so dead tomorrow.
5. 102 pages on day 1. I wouldnt be surprised if DB just hpily ever afters this

[CherryDrPepper]

Maybe no one would listen cause you, oh idk, thought it was smart to counter claim a potential town PR cause YOLO RIGHT?!?

[CherryDrPepper]

I think it's kinda obvious to differentiate DP from me at this point.

[CherryDrPepper]

Needs to die? Funny the same shit could be said about you

No a VT is supposed to HELP TOWN

[CherryDrPepper]

Yes it counts, no matter what.
I honestly thought Saki was voting Titus.
Varsoon's "Fuck this town", something i can agree with you on...

P-Edit: Glad you know you're responsible for this entire lynch on you.

[CherryDrPepper]

Also I love how you confirmed Saki, yet you didnt care about confirming me, yet you tried to get me lynched instead.

[CherryDrPepper]

All your multi-level crap is dumb
Get on my level!

[CherryDrPepper]

you don't know how to fucking count.

Exactly!

No i'm serious i thought that was L-1, it's the first time i accidentally quick hammer someone.

[CherryDrPepper]

Now i know how Rach feels whenever she doesn't follow the votes...

[CherryDrPepper]

inb4 Varsoon starts getting WotC'd

[CherryDrPepper]

Varsoon: Stop! Get on my level, then we'll talk

[CherryDrPepper]

You're not even mining for twilight info, you shitlords!

You're not helping with all dem gifs, it's time to put the serious face and play the game, it's because of your constant spam that people lost interest in this game

(and yes i'd totally WotC you)

[CherryDrPepper]

You know what's funny, you died just as I predicted you would (you were my original vig target if you didn't get lynched)

[CherryDrPepper]

If Varsoon is Town: Titus, Stubbs, Bulb.
If Varsoon is Scum: Titus, Xiao, Dis

[CherryDrPepper]

If Titus doesn't die tonight we lynch cherry.

Thanks you just gave scum a free pass to mislynching me tomorrow by roleblocking me, so they just need to shoot someone else tonight and get me lynched tomorrow... win-win for scum!

[CherryDrPepper]

Xiao Long stop being a self righteous kiss ass. Sakura miscounted. Geez

[CherryDrPepper]

Man if you're this mad because i miscounted, then my feels for Rach who miscounts way more often.

Maybe i should stop mocking her for that

[CherryDrPepper]

@Oriole:

mfw this gif reminds me of Bulbazak's avatar.

[CherryDrPepper]

Apparently not because people are blind.

Like you for wanting a town pr dead.

[CherryDrPepper]

Even If I were to believe you about jmo, my other head firmly believes he's town, so can't shoot him anyways.

I do think he's town tho.

[CherryDrPepper]

Titus i would believe that you were town if you didn't persecute all claimed PRs during D1.

[CherryDrPepper]

Titus i would believe that you were town if you didn't persecute all claimed PRs during D1.

Hey, fuck you, I did this too and I am VT.

Why do you think i've been voting you during half the day.

[CherryDrPepper]

Oh wow he flipped town?

I should have shot Xiao instead as my other head suggested...

[CherryDrPepper]

Saki, who did you roleblock last night? there's high chance they are scum because you blocked their shot, unless scum shot the exact same target as me, which would be odd since i made it clear i was shooting Titus.

[CherryDrPepper]

And yes i shot Titus, midway through the night my other head mentioned he also thinks xiao is scum, but i never suspected titus to flip town after what happened D1.

P-Edit: So you blocked jmo, ok i'll sheep that

VOTE: jmo

Do not quicklynch tho, we don't wanna end the day early without everyone discussing.

[CherryDrPepper]

CherryDrPepper, can you please be specific about your role? I'd like to start narrowing down the field of possibilities here and figure out exactly what setup we've been given.

Rank

Town Vigilante, which means I need at least VV to exist, I made a PR slip back then because I completely ignored the possibility of other PRs like Docs and Cops.

Night 1 I shot Titus yes, that's about it.

[CherryDrPepper]

@Bulbazak: there's a mistake in your theory, there's only 7 rolls, not 8, so if Doc doesn't exist: MVVBCTT (No SK), and if Doc exists: MVVBCDT (SK Exists), Which would STILL mean that someone either didnt shoot or got roleblocked.

[CherryDrPepper]

Yeah, but then that would confirm that there is a doctor and that we got another PR.
In either case too early to analyze everything for the time being as not everyone has posted their thoughts so imma
UNVOTE:
And decide as more people pitch in their thoughts.

[CherryDrPepper]

Xiao, exactly how fucking bullheaded are you?

We said we were vigging Titus, we said we said she was scummy and im pretty sure lots of people agredd with ue. Now how the FUCK is she obv town again?

Btw, regarding the SK, if one existed, theres the investigation immune ones or the 1-shot bulletproofs.
Still so many explanations for the lack of a kill. I still think jmo is town.

VOTE: Xiao Long

[CherryDrPepper]

Doesnt explain why Titus was obv town.

Also this is a pretty ballsy move for an SK to claim vig, cause, well idk, maybe scum would try to fucking kill us? Maybe its cause, we aren't the SK, and we are the legit vig?

All the accusations of the SK thoery makes me think that you *could* be the SK with investigation immunity (cause you were the first person to bring this all up yesterday)
Or you are the mafia Godfather. And youre trying to get the vig lynched so you dont have to nightkill us.

I just dont think you are town. A lot of the shit yesterday was so fucking anti town it hurts. Your interactions with Varsoon, and how you tried to not get him lynched? And what did he flip?

Also people, do younreally think jmo and Varsoon are partners together? Of Varsoon wanted to kill an inactive, why bus? Logic guys, use it.

[CherryDrPepper]

Because everytime he got to L-1 his mafia-ally Titus would stop us, seriously if i didnt derp hammer without noticing I wonder whether he would've been lynched or not.

Also, sorry DP but i don't wanna vote yet until we get more info from everyone.

By the way welcome to the game Sal
UNVOTE:

[CherryDrPepper]

That's why i called him mafia-ally not scumbuddy

[CherryDrPepper]

I call mafia-ally town people that are in cahoots with scum to the point of being considered their scumbuddies.

[CherryDrPepper]

Because Varsoon was a mislynch? Holy shit I dodnt see that! /sarcasm

You didnt answer me, how were jmo and Varsoon bussing? If Varsoon really wanted to vote inactive there were other people he could have voted. Not jmo.

[CherryDrPepper]

Its a ballsy claim because scum also want the vig dead or the SK dead.

Titus was obv town? Because she defended the obv scum Varsoon? Makes sense. Really it does /sarcasm

[CherryDrPepper]

Im sayong what was the motivation for bussing when Varsoon could have easily picked on another inactive player.

Titus was rolefishing, Titus wanted us quicklynched and how was Varsoon NOT obvious scum?

yes we fucked up a crumb, the reason was because of rolefishing and because the votes we were getting and the accusations were pretty stupid.

[CherryDrPepper]

Well Saki, but I DID sheep you right after you mentioned your target, I forgot there could be a doc like Bulb mentioned so that's why I unvoted. We don't have much else to go on other than that, and I still would rather people interact more so I know who to shoot tonight depending on jmo's flip.

[CherryDrPepper]

Gee, I seeiously wonder what kind of motivation a Serial Killer has over claiming vig. The issue here is that if we were an SK, a third party, we'd auto lose when we die. And both town AND scum would want our asses. So why the hell are we SK? And how many fucking times do we have to explain the reason why we claimed. I messed up Sakura's plan and Sakura got pissed at all of you for scum reading us for shit reasons.

Whats really pissing me off is the fact that you are STILL trying to justify yesterday as a Varsoon mislynch. Its a lot of crap. You deserve rope.

[CherryDrPepper]

And you guys are seriously discounting the fact that we could have other town PRs.

And what was the scum motivation for Varsoon and jmo to start bussing like that? On Day 1? With other mislynch targets?

Gee, this is a whole lot of shit.

[CherryDrPepper]

Jmo, your vote was pretty [REDACTED BEFORE I GET BANNED]. Help hunt scum will you,

[CherryDrPepper]

Please DP, I know you're mad, but there's no need to talk like that, we can talk this calmly, if you want you can just yell at stuff in the Hydra QT instead of here.

[CherryDrPepper]

The fact that yesterday you were softly defending Varsoon without directly saying he was town or even flat out saying you didnt think he was town while simultaneously chainsawing him was terrible.

And you called Titus obv town for trying to preventing a mislynch?

[CherryDrPepper]

Fun Fact: Even Titus herself said that she should be looked at if Varsoon flipped scum.

So Xiao Long: Let's suppose we sheep you on jmo and lynch him, if he flips town, who should we look at?

[CherryDrPepper]

Hey, because apparently i got no feelings and can't feel paranoid when my other head screwed something up and everyone was starting to vote me.

[CherryDrPepper]

It was DP.

The thing is, I was already paranoid because Titus was persecuting me like she did with Saki, everyone was suspecting me and Pasche was voting me, and I was about to head to sleep and was scared to find out I was lynched as soon as I woke up, so I claimed prematurely.

[CherryDrPepper]

I agree about jmo, I still think he might be scum with what he did D1, but the busing is putting me off, and saki's RB is strengthening it, my other head still thinks he's town too, so i'm kind of "idk what to do" situation.

[CherryDrPepper]

Speaking of Dys, my other head just told me something interesting:
"If not Xiao, I think Dys is a good lynch. Varsoon was targetting lurkers, and just said Dys looked town."
I don't remember this happening, does anyone remember?

[CherryDrPepper]

I agree with your case on Dys
VOTE: Dyslexicon
What do you think about the point my other head mentioned TV? Or is your case something you thought when I brought it up?

[CherryDrPepper]

Riddle me this, have you seen a game where scum hardbussed on Day1? And got all the attention to themselves? When other targets are there? How many of these games end in scum wins?

Why would Varsoon call jmo out for lurking first then build a case, but simultaneously read Dys as town even while she is lurking?

What does investigation immunity mean? Does it mean cop investigations will fail or that they will always reveal as town? Because I really do t want to leave Xiao clear. Yesterday he did NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, but sheep, buddy and chainsaw Varsoon. And dismissed our point about him not concretely saying whether or not he thinks Varsoon is town or not. He is Pilating, washing his hands off the situation whule simultaneously agreeing with everything Varsoon says.

[CherryDrPepper]

You dont think trying to get us to vote jmo is sheeping Varsoon? That wasnt discrediting you, that was pointing out that you didnt do anything but agree to Varsoon everytime and yet NOT think he was town, supposedly.

I thought you were pretty fucking confident we were the SK and not the vig?

We have null reads, the problem is you null read someone who you SHEEPED, BUDDIED, AND CHAINSAWED and yet didnt think they were town even if you acted like a parrot and said everything he said and agreed ti everything he said.

What you are doing right now is a bad attempt at discrediting us, we pointed out perfectly good points about you and Vrsoon and you dismiss it as us discrediting you.

I cant vote coz Sakura wont let me yet, but I'll have to convince her.

[CherryDrPepper]

I'm not doubt your roleblock Saki, I'm doubting the scum actions, I agree that we should probably lynch jmo today, but assume this is a scum trap, rushing the lynch, if he flips town, what's next? what info did we gain?

[CherryDrPepper]

You know, for someone so insistent on calling us all retarded, you're forgetting that yesterday you kept eating all the shit Varsoon gave to you and yet refused to call him town.

We acknowledge that a roleblocked jmo isnt the only reason for a no kill. So yeah I support massclaim.

[CherryDrPepper]

Assuming we got no more Town PRs, what Saki said is very valid, we should lynch JMO, and before nighttime both me and Saki need to agree on different targets for that night to maximize the chances of hitting scum. If it's TT as we assume there's no serial killer (makes sense if jmo was scum roleblocked and only 1 NK).

So if JMO flips scum, there's only 1 scum left, even if Saki guesses correctly on his roleblock he cannot do anything about it, so most probably there wont be a NK that night due to A) scum going no kill for WIFOM or B) scum actually getting roleblocked. And no kill would be pretty dangerous for them, while I keep trying to hit them and we as town keep trying to lynch them, as long as both me and Saki stay alive scum cannot win anyways, heck they also need to hit Pasche fwiw. Announcing the target is dangerous for scum because if they shoot, they get 1 conf town, and if they dont shoot we already thought it would be a possibility.

Of course this scenario is only possible if jmo was scum with his Night kill roleblocked, but i think it's a safe thing to assume for the time being.

[CherryDrPepper]

So when Barsoon flipped scum, we all thought they opcould be bussing with jmo. But if jmo flips scum, it automatically clears Xiao Long? Makes sense, right? /sarcasm

A

[CherryDrPepper]

You're forgetting something, if there's a doctor then there's a serial killer, unless there's a 1-shot Doc/Vig/Roleblocker around.

[CherryDrPepper]

Xiao loves throwing words around like "stupid" or retarded without realizing that it helps no one and his whole "Defend Varsoon without calling him town and treating him as if he was a mislynch" was the dumbest thing I've ever seen in this game. Hypocrisy.

[CherryDrPepper]

Hi guys let's erase my past and start from there.

Ready go.

VOTE: jmo

[CherryDrPepper]

Inb4 Saki actually didn't roleblock, because he's a scum goon instead of TRB, and a doctor actually exists *gasp* PLOT TWIST.

Just kidding btw.

[CherryDrPepper]

Not sure how much twilight time we will have, I'd really like to agree with some night targets with Saki so that you guys know what we've done in the case of us getting killed tonight.
UNVOTE:
To avoid JMO self-hammering, but I still wanna reach that agreement with Saki.

[CherryDrPepper]

I'll re-vote JMO as soon as we agree on that btw.

[CherryDrPepper]

Ok i'll take one of Dys, Flench and Xiao, how does that sound.

[CherryDrPepper]

Ok
VOTE: jmo
Someone can hammer whenever, i'm ready for my shot tonight, also it's highly likely i'm dead tonight so I surely hope Saki hits right again...

[CherryDrPepper]

Actually i was thinking that we should just use our actions due to gut, otherwise if scum is split, they will just shoot with whoever isn't on Saki's list. It is still possible that i shoot the scum that shoots me while saki roleblocks him so picking same target isn't that bad of an idea.

[CherryDrPepper]

DBK, you did a great job modding. You kept up with this 124 page game, which probably wont hold the record anymore now that it ended. But this probably was a bitch to mod.

Town, sorry for the Day 1 misstep with the miscrumb and the reveal.

And sorry Xiao for being a dick to you all game. Great call on jmo scum, I was just probably pissed at you calling us SK.

And Sakura, great job Hope we could do this again some time

[CherryDrPepper]

Special thanks to all; the replacements who took time away from their social lives to read 100 pages.