Open 342 - Chosen Mafia - SCUM WIN

[neil1113]

Claim: Vanilla Townie

Confirmed townie in my book, why would you lie about your claim in your first post? He's obv. town.

That means VOTE: whisper... Why would you try to eliminate a townie? Hunh? I'm onto you!

[neil1113]

Actually... UNVOTE:

VOTE: Glowball

YOU! You've got me lynched in two consecutive games, one in which I was scum, and one in which I was the SK! Now you just have to get me lynched as town, and you've completed the cycle. So I'll get you lynched first so you can stay away from me! Take that!

[neil1113]

Why am I always called out for being scum when I play with you people? Never in any other games do I get called out...

Glow, did you really call me out for posting quickly? Are there any games in my Meta in which I haven't posted within the first page?

... and didn't you do that?

[neil1113]

Um... I wasn't in the first 3 and it's OBVIOUSLY a silly theory. I would never lynch someone for that alone- calm down. Plus, I want to lynch BBmolla.

I can't believe you're pushing for my lynch! What type of friend are you?!?!? I'm not going to be lynch! I'll claim right now if I have too....





(I'm sorry, I'm in love. Love makes me do crazy things.)

[neil1113]

Claim right now.

I'm Neil, I'm a man, and I'm from Florida but currently I live in Missouri! Okay there! Gosh, you forced it out of me. Why are you so mean to me Muffin? :'(

[neil1113]

I still don't get what town slip you people are on about, but I won't argue with any of you.

Who is still to post?

Well funnybike came in, voted, and only has one post. Pink is tired, and only has one post. AntB has two posts.

COME ON ANT! POST SOME MORE! BE ACTIVE IN THIS GAME! YOU'RE ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS.....

[neil1113]

Anyone who is town and voting glow needs to unvote.

I was about to unvote when I realized she's at L-2, but something about this post just makes me unnerved...

[neil1113]

Why does anyone really think Glow is town? I'm curious now.

Also, why funkybike? I saw the votes, but not a single case / reason for it. BBmolla, you're either scum scared of Glow, or you're her partner. It's very apparent how you're buddying up to her. If "we're not lynching Glow today" then I vote we lynch you.

CJ is getting replaced out of another game, I'm pretty sure he'll be getting replaced out of this one as well.

[neil1113]

Why does anyone really think Glow is town? I'm curious now.

Also, why funkybike? I saw the votes, but not a single case / reason for it. BBmolla, you're either scum scared of Glow, or you're her partner. It's very apparent how you're buddying up to her. If "we're not lynching Glow today" then I vote we lynch you.

CJ is getting replaced out of another game, I'm pretty sure he'll be getting replaced out of this one as well.

Why do you think I am scum? And why are you defending Funkybike? That's basically two sides of the same coin minus the fact that funky has actually done something scummy and you are defending him sorta.

I didn't defend anyone? If you mean "Why are you asking what the case is on funkybike?" then it's because.. well, believe it or not I actually want to know the case on funkybike! *gasp* You mean, I wasn't double-minding my sentences and instead said what I meant? YES!

Come on Glow, instead of answering the QUESTION I asked (you know? What you called a "defense") you instead just told me he did something scummy. Thanks for answering my question. This is how our conversation just went, for giggling purposes:

"Hey guys, why are we wagoning on Funky?" - Me
"Neil, don't defend him (sorta)! We are wagoning because he did something scummy!" - Glow

Do you see how silly your response was now?

[neil1113]

It wasn't a response. I am not wagoning funnybike so your question didn't apply to me. I simply asked you a question.

Okay. You didn't ask me a fair question, you asked me a leading question. I have no desire to ask nor answer questions on "your ground." You want to have a conversation? Let's play on even ground, and present facts and evidence to support your posts, THEN ask the question that leads to the FACTS. Don't twist statements and make a sentence something it's not. This is why I think you're suspect. Because you don't seem town-minded in your post(s). I'm much more confident in your lynch then I am a lurker who's not posted except one vote post. And should you flip scum, BBmolla would be the next lynch in my opinion.

[neil1113]

Neil who do you think is scum.

Have I not made this clear?

Glow, instead of responding to my post, you brush it off. Noted. I see a Glow lynch in the near future, let's get some others in here to weigh in on the situation though.

Pink, Muffin, Quaroath (had to recheck how to spell your name, ugh) - where are you?
Funky, Whisper - what's your takes?

[neil1113]

CJ is crossed out, do we have someone replacing him already?

[neil1113]

Active lurking? Lol. Funkybike is a horrible lynch wagon. I've already pointed out the two best targets for the day. I will not go along with that. Funky looks like horribly sucky town to me, not scum. And I think anyone on his wagon is incredibly stupid, naive, and ignorant as to how to play Mafia. My vote stays on Glow.

[neil1113]

So scum are either in Duck and Pink or Glow and BB?

Yeah, I'm not buying Pink is scum. I already hammered him because he played this SAME WAY in another game I was in, and he flipped town. I doubt he'd be this useless as scum (no offense Pink!). Glow, you know what I'm not amused with? OMGUS. So to take a page from your own book:

WHY IS FUNKY BIKE ALIVE?

ONE MORE VOTE AND I AM HAMMERING I AM SO OVER THIS!

WHY IS GLOW ALIVE? BB, if you're not her partner, you buddying up with her is leading us into a potential mislynch. You have a head on your shoulders, use it! Stop following her around like a lost puppy looking for it's mother. Seriously. If you are her partner, have at it. Buddy as much as you please. (Like you have been.)

[neil1113]

No scum are either Neil, Duck, Pink, or BB

COMMON DENOMINATOR????

BB!
UNVOTE:

things are a little fuzzy for me right now so.... I'll vote in the morning.

Neil - Voted for you.
Duck - Called you out.
Pink - Voted for you.
BB - Called you out at the beginning of the game, and since has kissed the ground where you walk.

Common denominator? They've challenged you. Learn to play the game of Mafia Glow, and then come and talk to me about scum hunting. Of course things are fuzzy...

You're doing it wrong!

[neil1113]

So scum are either in Duck and Pink or Glow and BB?

Yeah, I'm not buying Pink is scum. I already hammered him because he played this SAME WAY in another game I was in, and he flipped town. I doubt he'd be this useless as scum (no offense Pink!). Glow, you know what I'm not amused with? OMGUS. So to take a page from your own book:

WHY IS FUNKY BIKE ALIVE?

ONE MORE VOTE AND I AM HAMMERING I AM SO OVER THIS!

WHY IS GLOW ALIVE? BB, if you're not her partner, you buddying up with her is leading us into a potential mislynch. You have a head on your shoulders, use it! Stop following her around like a lost puppy looking for it's mother. Seriously. If you are her partner, have at it. Buddy as much as you please. (Like you have been.)

Link me one game where a scum pair buddied each other. I'll provide 10 more where they attempted to distance.

Buddying implies one scum, one town, not two scum.

I'm not scum though, and I don't think glowball is either atm.

Nope, it's just because you suck as scum. That's all. You'll learn.

[neil1113]

So scum are either in Duck and Pink or Glow and BB?

Yeah, I'm not buying Pink is scum. I already hammered him because he played this SAME WAY in another game I was in, and he flipped town. I doubt he'd be this useless as scum (no offense Pink!). Glow, you know what I'm not amused with? OMGUS. So to take a page from your own book:

WHY IS FUNKY BIKE ALIVE?

ONE MORE VOTE AND I AM HAMMERING I AM SO OVER THIS!

WHY IS GLOW ALIVE? BB, if you're not her partner, you buddying up with her is leading us into a potential mislynch. You have a head on your shoulders, use it! Stop following her around like a lost puppy looking for it's mother. Seriously. If you are her partner, have at it. Buddy as much as you please. (Like you have been.)

Link me one game where a scum pair buddied each other. I'll provide 10 more where they attempted to distance.

Buddying implies one scum, one town, not two scum.

I'm not scum though, and I don't think glowball is either atm.

Nope, it's just because you suck as scum. That's all. You'll learn.

Hit enter to soon. Add this to that. "You'll learn. Also, you're whole explanation is WIFOM and thought out. I wouldn't be surprised if you planned to buddy each other, just so you can point out how 'it never happens so you can't possibly be scum right?!?' Bull. Don't WIFOM me."

[neil1113]

Pink: You're not leading the town. Stop it.

We better not be lynching Pink. He may be an idiot, but that's his MO as town. Like I said, I don't think he'd be an idiot as scum. Again, no offense meant.

We're not lynching Duck, because Duck is TRYING to scum hunt. At least she attempts? Give her a chance before jumping on the wagon to her death. In the mean time, we have much better scum to focus on being (either both, or one of) Glow and BBmolla. And while Quaroath has a great point against BB:

BB: Clearly keeping his nose up glows butt, and is riding the “glow is town 100%” a little too hard. I see a deep, deep irony in the “buddying implies one scum, one town, not two scum” when he’s hard core ass kissing glowball. You know. Like scum do. When they buddy.

I would just feel much more comfortable right now lynching Glow. She's anti-town at best, and completely scum motivated in most of her postings. The only people she wants to lynch, she can't even actually make a case for. (Prove me wrong Glow.) It's WIFOM at best. She either is scum pushing for mislynches (easy ones at that) or she's just horrible at Mafia. And I think anyone who's played a game with her wouldn't admit to the latter. So IMO, Glow would be the best choice of the day and you better believe I'm going to push that hard.

[neil1113]

He's asking me for cases yet there isn't one strong enough on me.

So you dodge giving a case, and instead explain it away as "well, there's not a case on me!" Maybe you really are horrible at Mafia. Instead of talking about the case on YOU, stop being self-centered and start helping the town if you're town. Make cases on the people you want to lynch. DO SOMETHING that indicates you know even the SLIGHTEST CLUE as to how to play Mafia. PLEASE! SOMETHING! Otherwise, shut the fuck up and get off this board.

Not to mention he's tunneling and being a hypocrite. Jumping to duck's defense like wtf? Townies only know their own alignment and yet you are so confident that Duck isn't scum after what like the 4 posts he's made???

What part of "We're not lynching Duck, because Duck is TRYING to scum hunt." said I'm confident in her being town? Don't misrep my posts, then you'll really make me mad. I didn't jump to anyone's defense. You know who wants to eliminate people that scum hunt? Scum. Oh the irony. I dare you to tell me you're scum hunting, and how you're catching scum this game. PLEASE DO IT, you WIFOM filled, uneducated, weak at cases, impolite, rude, and angering bitch.

We're not lynching Duck, because Duck is TRYING to scum hunt.Give me a fucking break. Oh wait, you can't because I'm chosen aren't I? Goddamnit.[/quote]

Don't make me laugh. If you're chosen I'll single handedly quit this game. Nobody is cruel enough to choose you as Chosen. If they did, we're fucked anyways even with you IN the game because you can't even PLAY Mafia. Oh what? When I get personal and I start cussing, you get mad? Taste your own medicine, I'm tired of being nice.

[neil1113]

You mis-rep me with the sole intention on making me look scummy, you make me mad. Don't mis-rep me, and you won't make me mad. If it was an accident, that'd be one thing. But I know you're scum, I'm confident in that, therefore your post was soley motivated from a scum's perspective. Town want the truth, scum want people to look scummy. You're purpose in mis-repping me wasn't to find out what I really thought, instead you soley went straight to "he's scum!" Instead of even asking me. You're not town-motivated, you're scum, and you should be lynched. Now.

[neil1113]

@neil I'm a guy btw

... sorry.

[neil1113]

You can't even begin to understand the woman that you have just decided to fuck with.

I know exactly what type of woman you are, and trust me I wouldn't "fuck with" you with a ten foot pole. You're weak attempt at intimidation goes un-noticed and laughed at. Try again.

Now onto your almost laughable case (but a case! I'd clap for you, if I cared!):

You are pushing a lynch on someone you voted in RVS--- MAJOR SCUM MOVE

Did you pull this out of your ass? It's not a "major" anything. It's null at best. But considering it's a "major" scum tell, explain to me how scum would do it MUCH MORE then town, and then PROVE IT. If you can't, shut your damn mouth. (Pull that from The Rock. He's got good advice you should listen to, you know!)

You started the game buddying, then started white knighting funkybike and now duckhunter which is not at all town motivated since townies only know their own alignment and gain nothing from defending/derailing another persons lynch when funky had been very obviously scummy and duckhunter hasn't been playing so long that it is reasonable for that person to be such a strong town read worthy of a defense.

So in everything you just said, the only thing you actually said was "your defense of duckhunter is not town motivated." Well, defending someone you think is town seems pretty town motivated to me. What would scum have to gain by defending a townie? Or two for that matter? And again, I didn't defend them from a good case, I protected them from a pathetic, washed up, not even attempted case mislynch. Do I know they are town? No. But this I do know. You have no case against them, you haven't attempted to make a case against them, and you don't seem to be willing to try. If anything is scum motivated here, it's you.

You want me to provide cases, yet you don't provide your own against me.

You didn't really ISO me did you? I've made a case against you, and I've stated different things adding onto that several times. Way to misrep this. And for the record, you STILL HAVENT MADE A FUCKING CASE AGAINST ANYONE YOU CALLED SCUM! Don't call me hypocritical, you double-minded ass.

You don't answer questions but expect your questions answered. hypocritical.

What questions have I not answered? Instead of POINTING OUT the questions, you simply state I didn't answer them. You don't want me to defend myself, you just want to paint me as scum to get a wagon on me. Where's the town-motivation in that? I can see the scum-motivation almost drizzling out of your lying, hypocritical, and pathetic mouth.

You jump to anger and name calling which someone who knows my meta, like yourself, could use to make me shut down completely.

Seriously? This isn't a point, and it's definitely not worthy of a response.

Neil you scared scared scum. I love you, but I fully expect an apology once you get your shit together.

You've yet to quote a single thing about how I was "scared" anything. I'm definitely not scared of you. Last time I checked, fear causes people to back away, not call the other person out. If anything, I've stepped up to you. And what's your response?

"Lol, you're so scum"
"Nah, wait Neil is obv. town."
"Neil? Name calling? You're scum!"

Get the fuck out of here with that.

btw...scum or not you need to be lynched. I am not putting up with your shit and you will be ignored if you can't behave civilly. We lose nothing from lynching you, because I HIGHLY doubt you are chosen since you haven't been wagoned up at all today. So nothing to lose if you are town, and everything to gain with you as scum. WIN-WIN.

So policy lynch? Lynch someone just because you don't like them? Lynch them because they give you the same attitude that you've given to countless others? Kiss my ass home girl, you're not getting nothing from me. Especially not an apology. And you can't push a lynch "because you want it." No you're trying to get me lynched just to get me lynched. You're so much scum it hurts. Town doesn't want town lynched if they can help it, period.

Also... on a note of game theory in addition to why I am voting Neil- The rules say that Scum endgaming with the Chosen townies is a town win and since mafia cannot night kill the townies I think it's fair if we try to lynch scum OR townies that most likely AREN'T chosen. Now I know it's randomly chosen, but the scum know who the chosen are and for them to win they have to get them lynched so you can kind of tell by the wagons that everyone who has been wagoned up is probably chosen or scum. That's just my opinion.

This is such a weak case of WIFOM, but there is one thing that should be noticed. "the scum know who the chosen are" How do you know this? Unless you're scum and you YOURSELF was notified, there's no way to tell rather scum know or don't know who the chosen are. The only thing we know is that they had to choose who COULDN'T be chosen. This on top of everything else I've said, is an obv. scum slip.

Glow lynch, GO!

[neil1113]

UNVOTE:

Goddamnit Neil you are just terribad.

That's two townslips btw

The Mafia are told who was Chosen, but the Chosen are not.

Knowing the set up isn't a scum slip. It's called READING FOR KNOWLEDGE. If you don't know how the game works, then why play?

I could go through everyone of the points and point out to you how exactly you are making yourself out to be an ass but it's no use. You are town, bad town, but town none the less. I'm just going to ignore you from now on since apparently you went from a sweet kind friend to some obnoxious jerk. kthnxbai

Realistically, I feel like you guys should just lynch me. This game is SUCKING BALLS. Neil's got his head up his ass and I don't want to deal with it.

Your appeal to emotion was horrible there. Okay, so I missed ONE POINT out of everything I said does not by any means discredit the WHOLE THING. I like how you don't even warrant a response. You try to appeal to everyones emotion "okay fine, I just want to be lynched now" for what purpose? You're fail attempt at trying to convince people you are town is horrid and such a scum-motivated post. You know you're caught, and you know I'm not loosing my jaw around you so therefore you just give up. Just like you always do. I tried to push you to actually play the game, but instead you coward like a bitch in the corner crying tears to make everyone think you're just a little tiny girl who needs to be loved, how could anyone lynch her? Bull. I fell for that before, but I'm not again.

Glow needs to be lynched, ASAP.

[neil1113]

Lol @ politics in Mafia. Nah I'm cool Whisper. I just don't play her games, that's all.

[neil1113]

seriously guys, my player slot has been compromised. if I'm not lynched and I am NOT chosen, then scum will always have me as an easy mislynch and if it came to end game my faults may lose this for us. so you should probably lynch me now.

I'm so inclined to believe you, then I see your bullcrap that you post such as:

"Neil is town"

Then a post later:

"either I'm lynched, or Neil is."

So either you're lynched (as town I believe is what you're trying to convince us you are?) or a townie is lynched? That's the only way you want it? And then you want to act all innocent and kind like you have town's best interest in mind, knowing very well you're trying to manipulate everyone with AtE to pick me over you, so that you'd get the mislynch off by having your little hissy fit? I can't even fathom a way that you'd be town, or how your actions have in any way benefited town.

[neil1113]

WOW NEIL. Just stop.

More AtE and then for something new, add in AtF.

Seriously Glow? And you're telling me to stop? I've begged you to act townie if you're town, but instead you continue... whatever you call this that you're doing. If you're town, you shouldn't be playing this game anymore. If you're scum, you're doing a great attempt at playing the scared little girl part. Either way, you've wasted the town's time, and the discussion time by your continuous appeals that further the evidence to you being scum. You know what though? I almost completely forgot about BB this whole time you've been throwing your hissy fit. Great job trying to distract the town from your partner (rather it's BB or not).

Let's get a Glow lynch. She knows she's been caught, so she's even FOR the lynch herself! Don't listen to her pretend PMS deals she's been crying about, let's push past this and start to actually play this game.

[neil1113]

WOW NEIL. Just stop.

More AtE and then for something new, add in AtF.

Seriously Glow? And you're telling me to stop? I've begged you to act townie if you're town, but instead you continue... whatever you call this that you're doing. If you're town, you shouldn't be playing this game anymore. If you're scum, you're doing a great attempt at playing the scared little girl part. Either way, you've wasted the town's time, and the discussion time by your continuous appeals that further the evidence to you being scum. You know what though? I almost completely forgot about BB this whole time you've been throwing your hissy fit. Great job trying to distract the town from your partner (rather it's BB or not).

Let's get a Glow lynch. She knows she's been caught, so she's even FOR the lynch herself! Don't listen to her pretend PMS deals she's been crying about, let's push past this and start to actually play this game.

[neil1113]

So based on 239, you're more confident Muffin that Pink is scum then BB or Funky? And so you are willing to say Glow is just anti-town-motivated town who is okay letting the town lose, then to say that she's scum?

By the way something I've noticed: Is it ironic that BB only seems to show up when his name is mentioned? If I had to choose between the three you picked Muffin, I'd be MUCH more motivated to lynch BB then the other two.

[neil1113]

I'm seeing very little motivation to even continue this day. Funky and Pink being the leading wagons make me think we're seriously stupid. Look at Pink's meta. Seriously?

Funky as scum? He may have been lurking actively, and he may have unwarranted suspicions, but to paint him as scum is not only a stretch but smells a little like opportunist scum to me. Who's someone who has painted them both as scum pretty actively to get the light off of her? Glow. Who seems to have gotten quiet once the light was off of her? Glow.

Seriously guys?

[neil1113]

Super cereal.

nomnomnomnomnomnomom

You deserve to celebrate and seem relived. You and your partner are escaping the lynch for Day 1. Which makes me laugh, considering one of the people that I'd consider to be your partner more then any other, happened to celebrate right before you. Either I'm blind, or this town is extremely idiotic. Come on guys, do you not see what's obviously in front of you?

[neil1113]

EBWOP: relieved*

[neil1113]

*gasp*

Whisper. You are better than sheeping Neil. He's terribad

You're case against me doesn't count, because you're "terribad."

And you're scum, because you're voting me.

Oh, no just kidding you're not scum.

Oh wait, yes you are!

Glow lynch should be the ONLY lynch right now, considering it's the ONLY wagon with an actual case on it, as well as it being the only wagon on.. well... you know.... Scum.

[neil1113]

Okay so here's the deal:

We lynch me

1.Then I flip town

2.Then everyone plays the game and lynches funkybike

3.Then everyone remembers how Neil derailed the funkybike lynch.

Then we win.

Cool?K... let's do this.

1. Or scum. Good AtF though.
2. And we get a mislynch.
3. And another mislynch.

You never would follow through with Step 1 though. If possible, you'd self hammer A.S.A.P. to stop the town from getting any help. Funky and Pink look both like town mislynches, stupid town none-the-less, but still mislynches. Does nobody else seriously realize this? Are we really that stupid?

[neil1113]

Okay so here's the deal:

We lynch me

1.Then I flip town

2.Then everyone plays the game and lynches funkybike

3.Then everyone remembers how Neil derailed the funkybike lynch.

Then we win.

Cool?K... let's do this.

1. Or scum. Good AtF though.
2. And we get a mislynch.
3. And another mislynch.

You never would follow through with Step 1 though. If possible, you'd self hammer A.S.A.P. to stop the town from getting any help. Funky and Pink look both like town mislynches, stupid town none-the-less, but still mislynches. Does nobody else seriously realize this? Are we really that stupid?

[neil1113]

hey buddy I could have already self hammered this game and I didn't.

Why do you lie about something so easily proven? Do you think no one will check? You have never been at L-1 this game without your vote on yourself already. You couldn't have self hammered at any point in this game. Good try though liar.

[neil1113]

Quar, this game sucks because we all know each other and there is too much larking around.

My gut it telling me to lynch glow, but I'm getting mixed reads from her.

Why is your vote stuck on BB?

What part of her posts seem town? To any degree? I'm not getting mixed reads, I'm getting clear ones... Is it because she was crying and you don't want to hurt the poor little girl? Don't let her suck you in with that.

[neil1113]

No. We lynch bike. When he flips scum we lynch neil

Get the fuck out of here.

[neil1113]

Whisper, you're starting to make me really nervous.

[neil1113]

Uh, hello? Hey guys, just a head's up, we're playing Mafia...

[neil1113]

SURE IS A TALKATIVE BUNCH

VOTE: Quaroath

Gonna trust Muffin. May switch to Neil though. Need to reread d1.

This is your post? You point out the lack of posts in a "laughing" manner, and then vote what looks like the easiest mislynch? Hypocrite, how are you not scum?

I was going to consider Quaroath until you posted, now I'm convinced you're scum and you need to be lynch. And your partner, Glow shall be lynched too. But first, the crying little girl needs to be eliminated. Then you'll be next. Way to try and use night kill WIFOM to set up the mislynch though. Seriously, it was a great attempt but I'm not falling for that.

OH WOW. MASS PROD MUCH.

I definitely need to reread. It's looking more like Quaroath/Neil to me.

/confirm scum post. Ironic you two are the first to post, and you push the same mislynch as your partner. Is this seriously not obvious? Am I misreading here? What's the point of even continuing this game? It's over.

Since Muffin last was targeting Quaroth that makes him the number one suspect to try and kill him

Vote
Quaroth

Don't fall for the push of the mislynch. This is Night Kill WIFOM, one that Glow and BBMolla would of very easily set up in their little nighttime talking area. Then use it as "well obvious Muffin was against Quaroath, so let's lynch him!" This is almost "too obvious" that you HAVE to take a second look. And when you do, it becomes painfully clear that the two failures that are the scum (BBMolla and Glow) have been teaming up this whole game, showing the minimal questioning to distance themselves yet using WIFOM all the while whenever called out on it. They single handedly pushed mislynches, and have now set up another one. Unvote, quickly before they jump on the wagon.

VOTE: Glowball

[neil1113]

I've been informed I've been doing this setup wrong apparently, so to correct myself: In the event of 2 players being tied in votes when deadline hits, the player who reached the tied number of votes first is lynched.

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Vote Count

Quaroath [2/4] ->

BBMolla - duckhunter4242

glowball [1/4] ->

neil1113

NOT VOTING [5/7]->

pinkfloyd - glowball - whispersilk - Quaroth

Something I've also noticed is Glow set herself up for the quick hammer. Remember that anyone before putting Quaroath at L-1. She made her intention clear on lynching Quaroath, yet didn't vote. Why? It seems like she's specifically being deceitful to make others think that it's fine to go ahead and place a vote on Quaroath because it wouldn't be the hammer, then before any more discussion could happen (BAM) quick hammer. And her response the next day will simply be "what? Don't be silly, I already made my intention on lynching him before the L-1 vote went down." And then she throws her cute, yet horrendous acting and crying to get away from suspicion. Don't be fooled guys. The only reason scum will win this game is because we're inactive. Get in here and post.

[neil1113]

I've been informed I've been doing this setup wrong apparently, so to correct myself: In the event of 2 players being tied in votes when deadline hits, the player who reached the tied number of votes first is lynched.

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Vote Count

Quaroath [2/4] ->

BBMolla - duckhunter4242

glowball [1/4] ->

neil1113

NOT VOTING [5/7]->

pinkfloyd - glowball - whispersilk - Quaroth

Something I've also noticed is Glow set herself up for the quick hammer. Remember that anyone before putting Quaroath at L-1. She made her intention clear on lynching Quaroath, yet didn't vote. Why? It seems like she's specifically being deceitful to make others think that it's fine to go ahead and place a vote on Quaroath because it wouldn't be the hammer, then before any more discussion could happen (BAM) quick hammer. And her response the next day will simply be "what? Don't be silly, I already made my intention on lynching him before the L-1 vote went down." And then she throws her cute, yet horrendous acting and crying to get away from suspicion. Don't be fooled guys. The only reason scum will win this game is because we're inactive. Get in here and post.

[neil1113]

I re--read as it stated in my first post you quoted.

So considering most will think you're bussing to save your own butt from getting lynched (which is horrible scum play IMO) please explain, if you're voting one half of the scum team, who's the other half? You obviously found something in BBMolla, so I'm curious as to what your possible case could be against his partner?

[neil1113]

Replace out if you're not going to play the game. Please?

[neil1113]

Why is this game even going? The scum have been figured out, but the town is so inactive there's no point in even continuing the game without replacing more than half the players. Can we just end the game here mod?

[neil1113]

wow, did kondi seriously just replace in and hammer? I bet I'm chosen. THANKS GUYS and NEIL that asshole. I'm town, deal with that. Hell even if I'm not chosen we are doomed inactivity is going to kill this game. I hate you guys so much right now, well not really at least I don't have to deal with this crap anymore.

/end cry-rant.

Now that we have one scum down, let's focus on the 2nd before the day ends. BBMolla is high up on my list, though that hammer was suspect. Anyone notice something I haven't?

[neil1113]

Also people hold Neil to this. Don't let him back out after my flip. He pushed this lynch and he should be made to answer for it.

You're seriously a jerk to keep persisting you're town, even after your lynch. You played so anti-town this game, it's pathetic. Stop talking, you're dead.

And yes people, hold me to her flip. I don't know what that means, because it takes more then one person to lynch someone.

Hear that Glow? More then one, which means the fact that you're being lynched means you're scum, pathetic scum, but scum. At least in enough people's eyes to warrant your lynch. Hold me to it if you want, I'll be just as deserving of the town win as the next guy/girl for your lynch.

[neil1113]

Also hold Kondi to that hammer and don't buy the WIFOM that Neil will try to spin after my flip. He pushed this and got what he wanted, a townie lynched. Everyone on my wagon should be looked at because I was HERE participating, or at least trying to, and was obviously not scum.

And Neil you're a jerk and I wish never to play with you again because you were so out of line for no reason.

Also people hold Neil to this. Don't let him back out after my flip. He pushed this lynch and he should be made to answer for it.

Stop talking, you're dead.

So let's lynch half the town at the start of Day 2. Sweet plan Glow!

[neil1113]

why are you trying to shut me up? I'm obviously town now which means my insights are just extra help from a soon to be confirmed source...also, you don't need to worry about my "plan" if I'm scum,right? OH RIGHT I AM TOWN SO YOU ARE IN FACT WORRIED. Come on people, don't get rolled.

3. Once the lynch total is met, the game enters twilight and no more voting is allowed.

4. You are allowed a single "bah" post.
You may not reveal any game related information.

It's the rules jackass. Now shut up, nobody wants to hear you speak anyways. You're not obviously town, if you were you wouldn't have been lynched. Now do you even hear the stench coming from your mouth? Or is it your foot in it that stinks? Either way, you're not town just because you said it after twilight. You're an ass. A crying, bitching, PMSing, overly sensitive ass that needs to shut her fucking mouth and get the fuck out of this game. Either learn to fucking play Mafia, or stop trying and then crying when you get lynched because your pathetic ass is horrible at it. Now, shut the fuck up and go on bitching to people who care.

[neil1113]

BAH! posts are AFTER the flip... this is twilight talking is allowed, voting isn't. Thanks though Neil, you're a real charmer

Glow, funny how you want to contribute to the game now that you're dead, hypocrite. I don't want any information from you, all you'll be doing is muddying up the waters. I know how scum work. Now anyone with actual significance to this game want to talk?

[neil1113]

vijay2vasandani replaces duckhunter4242.

Deadline is in (expired on 2011-11-19 20:00:00). (19 Nov, midnight GMT)

Nobody heard from duckhunter much towards the end of the day, and nothing at all from his descendant, vijay2vasandani as the Mafia had already marked him for killing. Another note was found, this one simply read "oops, you missed, good job we didn't!"

vijay2vasandani, a VANILLA TOWNIE, was mercilessly shot by the Mafia

NOT VOTING -> BBmolla - pinkfloyd - Neil1113 - whisperinlk - Klondi2424
5 players is 3 to lynch.
Deadline is 11th of December at midnight.

That's messed up.

I don't like the flip, nor the night kill action. It shows little to nothing, and Glow playing ridiculously anti-town didn't help either. If only she knew how to play this game... But guys you do realize that we have to be active here right? We're at LyLo. Notice who's left in this game, BBmolla, Pink, and me (the easiest mislynches) and Whisper and Klondi... So by PoE:

Whisper has done nothing but lurk this whole game, actively lurk, ask ridiculous questions about this games setup, and contribute less then George Bush Jr. at a political debate.

Meanwhile we have Night Kill Analysis, which shows the only person that Vijay/Duck was a threat to was Kondi.

I'm pretty confident this is the scum team, so I'm down for either one's lynch but I'd like to hear from the town on which one they'd rather see lynch. Remember guys don't place a vote down, there's two scum left. All it takes is 3 to lynch. You misvote, the scums can come on and hammer and end this game. However once we have the first vote, it confirms that one of the two are scum if there is no quick hammer.

[neil1113]

VOTE: neil

In the next 24 hours, if I'm not hammered, this proves you're scum with your careless WIFOM vote. I'd post, but nobody else is posting and I'd like to hear from the others first. Anyone here? Bueller?

[neil1113]

But I do like how no one's been posting in this game, and as soon as I vote you find time to comment.

Wow, you obviously didn't read my post did you? I pointed out, pretty clearly it was Ly-Lo before your post voting me, and then you try and pretend you didn't know? Please. You're so scum. And what do you mean as soon as you vote I find time to comment? What else am I supposed to be commenting on smart one? There's no content here to be talking about. You and your scum buddy I wouldn't be surprised if you guys win due to lack of activity. We're being ridiculous, and letting you guys get a free pass. I'd vote you, but I'd rather wait till the rest chime in.

GUYS?!?

[neil1113]

Scum team, I'm calling it now. Kondi and Whisper. BBmolla, lynch me and the game's over. Do you not see the entirely fake set up that Kondi has done? I was wrong about Glow, I admit that and I apologize but BBmolla you're falling right into Whisper's trap. Notice how she's "actively lurked" with little to no contribution this entire game (ISO her), and she seemed like she was going to be active up until the point of her "town slip" which Glow so bluntly pointed out. Does that not scream "scum sitting back and lurking" to you or am I the only one?

I don't understand much of the case on me. All I hear is the obvious, which is I tunneled on Glow and Glow is not scum. But it takes more then one person to form a lynch, so you can't just count me guilty just yet. I'm pretty sure both scum we're on Glow's wagon (for the obvious reasons), so I wouldn't focus too much off the wagon. Their whole focus is to lynch Chosen and that's exactly what happened. Kondi's hammer was pretty much scumtastic, to be honest now that I look at it. Scum replacing in with a chance to hammer a chosen and bring them 1/2 closer to a win? Why wouldn't they do that? Which means with Kondi as 1 scum, the last one is between myself, you BBmolla, and Whisper. Think about this logically for a second.

WIFOM ALERT (For everyone to read):

Myself: Why would I so extremely tunnel someone I knew was a chosen, knowing it'd make me look guilty as crap when the flip comes and pretty much (almost) guarantee my lynch with the heck of suspicion it would cast and help me cost my team the game? I'm not that bad at scum, do you think it's a gambit I would take?

BBmolla: Why would you as scum sheep so hard a chosen member knowing that you want them lynched? It doesn't make much sense, knowing that eventually you'll have to turn on them in order to lynch them but the sudden turn if not played carefully (and it's hard to play that carefully) will in turn cast suspicion onto yourself? Possibly enough to get yourself lynched? Why would you take that gambit?

Whisper: Meanwhile, Whisper has lurked actively, asked a few questions about the game logistics and after his "Town Slip" has ridden by with little to no pressure. Jumps on the bandwagon to lynch a chosen member, with little to nothing said.

Logically, think about it.

[neil1113]

Obviously, neil is my first pick. I'm having trouble deciding who is the second one, but I'm leaning towards whisper.

And notice the obvious scum tactic here:

Vote chosen
Suspect partner.

EBWOP: Seriously Whisper? Please don't fall for that extremely obvious set up BBmolla.

Whisper: How did I "give myself away" by trying to convince the other town members that you're scum aligned? That was the worst WIFOM vote I've seen, and it's a horrible time to be placing it considering we're in Ly-Lo. It's that type of carelessness that convinces me I won't be quick hammered, because you're scum. You and your partner have now tried to quick lynch me, I'm pretty sure it's obvious I'm chosen. And when I don't die tonight, and we lynch you, we'll go after Kondi or you next (whoever isn't lynched today.) Just don't try the whole "Oops we're in Ly-Lo" excuse like your partner did.

[neil1113]

Oh and Whisper, how is your post town motivated at all? WIFOM vote, no defense to clear yourself, calling others to quick lynch... You're interest is in staying alive it seems, not for the betterment of the town. Am I the only one seriously seeing how scum motivated Whisper is?

EBWOP: Then lynch Kondi today BBmolla. Kondi and Whisper are scum, I don't care which one flips first. After one goes, the next will. I doubt Pink is scum, I can't find enough evidence to support that and Pink is a horrible player in general (playing style)... Pink would be a great mislynch earlier on when we're not worried about Ly-Lo, but in Ly-Lo there's literally no evidence at all to support his lynch.

[neil1113]

I came to the conclusion that you seemed too obvious, check previous page it crossed my mind. You need to account for Pink though. In regards to lurking, we're all(excluding you for the most part actually) guilty of that. I'm pretty sure it's Kondi. Not 100% sure of partner.

P-edit: Whisper who is his scumpartner?

You should unvote, I think it's Pink/Kondi.

I think one of them is neil. He's trying too hard to lynch me.

Trying too hard to lynch scum is a bad idea? I don't think so.

[neil1113]

No Kondi?

Of course not, that's her partner silly.

Whisper, what's your case against me? Besides "You're voting for me!"

BBmolla, I'm going to ISO Pink right now. Though I doubt I'll come up with anything useful.

[neil1113]

Town:
BBmolla - you're town because I can't make sense of why scum would sheep a chosen.

Null / Reluctant Town:
Pink - I ISO'd him again and Meta him BBmolla. I just can't see him as scum, though it's nerve-racking near the end of his ISO. The whole time he had such a solid town read (how?) on me throughout the game... then when it looks like I could be an easy mislynch to start this day, he runs with it nearly dumping his whole reads for the sake of the lynch.. Again though, his META worry's me.

Scum:
Whisper: Gut doesn't work to lynch someone. You're gut is offended that I found out who the scum team is, and you're brain knows I'm chosen. That's why you and your partner want me lynched. Though I admire the distancing you're committing with Kondi. Also, when did Gut ever become substance enough to place a vote on someone starting a lynch in Ly-Lo? Nothing about your play seems town to me, from the beginning of this game to now.

Kondi: Read his posts. Need I say more?

[neil1113]

Whisper: If I'm not scum, who would be your 2 pursuits? Right now I hope you realize you're tunneling on me (if you're town: because your gut is offended I voted you, hence WIFOM. If you're scum: because you know I'm town and probably chosen) and because of that you have no others who could possibly be scum. Make cases, if it's on me, cool, if not, cool. But make cases and actually play to your win condition, unless I'm right and you're scum. Then continue playing the way you are. But right now even you have to admit you're not exactly being "beneficial" to the town, regardless of your alignment.

BBmolla, instead of letting others influence your decision I challenge you to eliminate your "safe" reads or your "town reads" and look at this game objectively, like you just replaced in. Considering your town read is my strong scum read, it seems as though your biased could be leading us to a loss. If you really think Pink is scum, you make a case for him. However, to make 2 of the possible 4 people left in the game town reads, is not exactly good playing style and you need to be very careful with how you go from here if you want any chance of us winning this game.

Pink, you there?

Klondi, besides your obvious WIFOM and how much you seem to fail, why do you suspect Whisper? Can you make a case on her, or is it just because she's your partner and if one of you got lynched today you're clearing the path with distance so that the other isn't looked at? /beginsarcasm I don't obviously think you'd answer this, however since you're scum, I'm very interested in seeing your attempt at a case on Whisper. In fact if you make it good enough, I'll lynch her first, THEN you get to be lynched tomorrow! Fair deal? /endsarcasm

[neil1113]

1. Look at how he's telling you to consider all of the possibilities when he's tunneling on whisper and I at the same time.

Are you joking? Tunneling on.. half the people in the game? After I've already made my analysis on everyone, and after I've already said I ISO'd the other half? What exactly does tunneling mean to you?

2. Also look at his overreaction to what little I've posted about suspecting whisper.

Hardly an overreaction? If you were town, you just set the game up for failure without even so much of a thought. And why? Because I voted you. Then you pulled it back and said oops. Did you not read my posts? I made it very clear it was Ly-Lo, and yet you still placed the vote down. There's no town motivation to that, unless you're completely convinced that I'm scum. Which, by the way, OMGUS does not equal completely convinced.

How is Kondi still alive? I'm torn. Which one should die first? Him or W

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[neil1113]

good game, just waitin' for scum to quick hammer. great.

:/

[neil1113]

Surprised I'm not dead yet... hurry up guys. Geesh even the scum are inactive.