Open 329: Mayo Clinic D3: Town WINS!

glowball · Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:15 pm

Well there is one way. If one of the vigs shot VitaminR and the scum adequately guessed and shot VitaminR then Piggy could be town HOWEVER that possibility is very slim and because she the only lead we need to lynch her. Now, yes BB you should out who you shot because whoever protected that person is confirmed town and should be put in place adequately. We need a new plan and the plan maker is dead. PLUS SIDE: we know she had town intentions so we can use her set up and modify it. Someone do that, my brain hurts from life.

glowball · Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:16 pm

In post 1014, GreyICE wrote:No possible way - scum obviously shot VitaminR.

Obvious who the lynch is for today, so lets put together tonight's plan once we have the confirmed doctor.

ALSO, wouldn't it be more reasonable to assume scum shot whispersilk?

You honestly think her vig shot her because that doesn't confirm anything and is a waste of a kill.

glowball · Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:28 pm

1. Glowball
2. Quilford
3. GreyICE
4. PiggyGal15
5. izakthegoomba
6. BBmolla
7. Thomith
8. Maruchan
9. Quaroath

Um where are you getting 7 from? We have 9 players alive

9 Alive

2 Vigs
BBMolla
Quaroath

2 Confirmed Doctors(alignment unknown)
GreyICE
whoever Quaroath shot

5 Unconfirmed((lists 6, waiting on vig results))
At least 2 of these are scum, possibly 3 but since we cannot confirm alignment the only safe number to say is 2
Glowball
Quilford
Izak
Piggy
Thomith
Maruchan

Obviously, one of these people was Quaroath's targets protector but we need to lynch from the 5 that are left over. OBVIOUSLY Piggy needs death today and so tomorrow that pool will be 4. I want whoever is confirmed doctor by Quaroath to protect him, and I'll stick to protecting BBMolla because I really don't trust any of you.

glowball · Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:37 pm

WHY DID YOU SHOOT WHISPER?!

That wasn't the plan. You were supposed to shoot from the other pool, wtf dude?!

glowball · Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:37 pm

OH HAHAHAHA nevermind
You shot Vitamin OBVIOUSLY I am stupid.

glowball · Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:38 pm

Well amend it to a lynch pool of 6 with Piggy being the targeted lynch for the day. Sorry Quaroath.

glowball · Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:53 pm

In post 1027, glowball wrote:1. Glowball
2. Quilford
3. GreyICE
4. PiggyGal15
5. izakthegoomba
6. BBmolla
7. Thomith
8. Maruchan
9. Quaroath

Um where are you getting 7 from? We have 9 players alive

9 Alive

2 Vigs
BBMolla
Quaroath

1 Confirmed Doctor(alignment unknown)
GreyICE

6 Unconfirmed
At least 2 of these are scum, possibly 3 but since we cannot confirm alignment the only safe number to say is 2
Glowball
Quilford
Izak
Piggy
Thomith
Maruchan

Obviously, one of these people was Quaroath's targets protector but we need to lynch from the 5 that are left over. OBVIOUSLY Piggy needs death today and so tomorrow that pool will be 4. I want whoever is confirmed doctor by Quaroath to protect him, and I'll stick to protecting BBMolla because I really don't trust any of you.

^Fixed

I say we go forward with the same plan that Whisper had after we lynch Piggy

BB protected by ME- Glowball
Quaroath protected by GreyICE (if he is the Mafia Doctor and he chooses to take this opportunity to kill, he gets death tomorrow PERIOD)

BB Shoots From:
Quilford
Izak

Quaroath Shoots From:
Maruchan
Thomith

Quilford protects Izak
Izak protects Maruchan
Maruchan protects Thomith
Thomith protects Quilford

RESULTS

Quilford dies- Thomith is scumz
Izak dies- Quilford is scumz
Maruchan dies-Izak is scumz
Thomith dies- Maruchan is scumz

LIke I said the good thing about this is that no matter who we lose in the night we're almost guaranteed to win. There are 9 Alive, pretty sure Piggy is scum so we'll be facing scum during the night 6 v 2 even if we manage to kill 3 more town aligned. Then tomorrow it'll be 3 vs 2 with 2 confirmed vigs who managed to find scum by default when they killed townies. This game is done.

glowball · Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:51 am

OMG are you serious? You think I am mafia doctor? Whatthefuckever. There is absolutely no reason Quilford should be protecting you. WHY?! SERIOUSLY?! He isn't confirmed anything. At least BB survived night 1 under my protection.

glowball · Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:59 am

In post 1061, Thomith wrote:wait why did quil take glows place for no reason?

FOS: Quil
why did you change this part of the plan when it was perfectly fine before?

EXACTLY!

I've proven myself-- No, I am not confirmed but I kept the vig alive and if they shot at each other then they will know. Quil has NO reason to be taking my spot he isn't proven in any way.

glowball · Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:36 am

In post 1063, Quaroath wrote:Fuck. I thought grey was the other doc on a vig, not glowball. Nevermind. I'm fine with glow protecting, but the vigs need to be in each others target pool, which was the basic issue I had with glows plan.

HEY that was a misstep I thought it was OBVIOUS.

glowball · Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:37 am

does it matter Maruchan?

glowball · Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:44 am

is it weird that I want to lynch Izak and keep Piggy around because she's already admitted to being scum and just leave her out of the train.

glowball · Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:53 am

HEY NO we do not have to vig her. What I mean is keeping her around as a sure fire scum lynch later. Like we use this lynch to lynch someone who is scummy and get them out of the game. Piggy is in a separate pool and does nothing and we can lynch her whenever. It's like we've already found scum, and we are saving it for a knock out punch. It was just a funny idea I thought it'd be kind of cool I mean we KNOW she is scum we should lynch someone else who we have suspicions of.

glowball · Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:59 am

hahahahah no

you'd change the protects

Maruchan protects Thomith
Thomith protects Quilford
Quilford protects Maruchan

that's if we lynch Izak, same no matter who we decide to lynch..

Seriously people think about it

UNVOTE:

We have a unique opportunity we know we have scum and it's just like switching tomorrow and today. Today we lynch someone who is scummy having Piggy as a clutch scum lynch for another day.

glowball · Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:00 am

In post 1080, Quaroath wrote:Piggy dies today. Alway always lynch known scum. We have a finite number of lynches. Leta not risk wasting one please. Rhinitis plan post is the plan. Period.

It's not a risk, and don't be an ass. but I guess I see your point. This whole thing could go quicker though.
VOTE: PiggyGal

glowball · Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:47 am

Yeah yeah let's play safe and slow and lynch Piggy. I am bored with all of this. Someone repost the plan and let's hammer this out.

glowball · Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:08 am

Izak is scum. Obviously Maruchan died because of a vig attack. Izak was protecting him.

VOTE: Izak

glowball · Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:09 am

it is winnable but mostly by outnumbering town. you would have to effectively seem town enough to draw the kills else where. Maruchan was a tragic loss though that was just luck in matching you two together

glowball · Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:27 am

Well Hoopla, especially now being the Open List Mod I am sure will look at this. She breaks a lot of set ups and really all you have to do is make it known to her and she could probably fix it.

glowball · Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:42 am

hey now. the game is still ongoing until the mod declares otherwise izak.

glowball · Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:51 pm

MOD DID YOU SERIOUSLY JUST CALL ME UGLY??? How rude!

glowball · Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:56 pm

Who are these people who wanted me in the flavor?!

glowball · Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:16 pm

Shax
09-08-2011
02:00 PM ET (US)
OH THANK THE FUCKING LORD FOR GLOWBALL

^Things people should always say.

glowball · Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:07 pm

I don't know that it is COMPLETELY broken.
We kind of got best case scenarios, like Neil outright claiming SK and NO scum counter claims. I mean we have to credit play style to some of what happened. That being said it is very slanted. I guess someone who thinks it is unfair should summarize.

glowball · Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:19 pm

I understand that. I was just saying that from my POV there is a strategy that town can follow but if scum make a point not to make the same mistakes then it cannot increase their chances. Like town has no control over Serial Killer claims, that is up to the player and mafia could choose to counter claim a vig, none of that happened. But I guess the summarized plan was:

Mass Claim
If there were counter claims vigs would shoot in a pool of themselves
there were no counters in this situation
So we had selected doctors protect the vigs
We had a doctor protection train or circle whatever you want to call it so that everyone except the doctors protecting the vigs were covered limiting who scum could kill without outing themselves.
Vigs shot from two separate pools of players this way if the vigs kill was successful then we would know that whoever was protecting that player is scum.
This way there was a possibility of 3 kills at night, but also confirmed scum in the morning.

glowball · Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:23 pm

also, it would suck to be SK because can he even win? I don't think so it's just a waste for him.

glowball · Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:44 pm

Yeah SKs cannot win in this set up. If you claim they kill you before end game. Best Serial Killer strategy is simply playing like a townie and endgaming with mafia. However, they way this set up was broken that was impossible since there were no Vanillas just Doctors. That is the part I think that makes it unwinnable is that it's too easy to weed out those without active abilities like SK and mafia goons since everyone else is a doctor. Put in some vanillas and it would be different but there's already a set up like that?

glowball · Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:09 pm

^ agree