Open 323: Murder at Happy Sunshine Hospital (Scum win!)

Amrun · Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:54 pm

Open 323: Murder at Happy Sunshine Hospital

- 1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Doctor, 3 Doctors, 7 Vanilla Townies

The race for Chief of Medicine is on at Happy Sunshine Hospital. All the top doctors are gunning for the job and everyone is on edge. Recently, there has been a string of deaths at Happy Sunshine. The patients are nervous and the staff is frantic. The patients don't want to be next and the doctors don't want to be blamed for the deaths. Can the culprits be found before the hospital's reputation is compromised?

Still Kicking (4/13)

1.

Quaroath

*** -

Mafia Doctor

, alive at endgame and won
4.

silavor

* -

Patient

, alive at endgame and lost
8.

Nobody Special**

zMuffinMan*

-

Mafia Goon

, alive at endgame and won
12.

teamsleep

-

Patient

, alive at endgame and lost

bold

indicates confirmation.
* - Asterisks indicate number of prods received.

In the Morgue (8/13)

9.

Quilford

glowball

-

Patient

, Lynched Day 1
7.

HellloooNewman

** -

Patient

, Overdosed Night 1
6.

Sundy

* -

Town Doctor

, Shot Night 1
11.

Singersigner

*

NStride***

-

Town Doctor

, Lynched Day 2
13.

SleepyKrew

farside22

-

Town Doctor

, Shot Night 2
5.

pinkfloyd

-

Mafia Roleblocker

, Lynched Day 3
10.

tclawren

** -

Patient

, Shot Night 3
2.

Hikari Link

Hiraki*

-

Patient

, Shot Night 4
3.

DarthYoshi

-

Patient

, Lynched Day 5

Important Events

Day 1 Begins
SleepyKrew replaces farside22
Nobody Special replaces zMuffinMan
Quilford replaces glowball
Singersigner replaces NStride
Quilford lynched Day 1
Hikari Link replaces Hiraki Night 1
HellloooNewman and Sundy dead Night 1
Singersigner lynched Day 2
SleepyKrew dead Night 2
pinkfloyd lynched Day 3
tclawren dead Night 3
No Lynch Day 4
Hikari Link dead Night 4
DarthYoshi lynched Day 5

Amrun · Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:58 pm

Rules

(References: Equinox, ReaperCharlie, LlamaFluff, Vi, dramonic)

General

Be familiar with the sitewide rules and guidelines.
Personal attacks will not be tolerated. Use of homophobic, racist, sexist, or any other derogatory slurs falls under this rule. Keep it civil.
Play to your win condition.
Unless otherwise specified in your role PM or by me, you may not communicate outside of this thread while the game is running.
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If you have the ability to edit your posts, don't use it in my game.
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dark purple
- and boldface
maroon
-colored text are reserved for the moderator. All other formatting is fair game with the provision that you do not impersonate me or post in hidden text, as covered in another rule.

Activity

Prods will be issued to players if they have not posted within a 48-hour period. Players who have been prodded have 24 hours to respond
in the game thread
before a replacement is sought.
Players who have been prodded 3 times are subject to replacement without further notice. After three prods, replacements will happen upon my discretion. Prod timers re-set with each new game Day.
Posting content is an absolute must. If a player posts nothing but prod dodges for an entire game Day, he or she will be subject to replacement upon my discretion.
If you anticipate being away for at least 48 hours, please PM me AND post a V/LA notice in the thread with the expected date of your return.

Pre-Game

During Pre-Game you will receive your role PM. Confirm by PM, as instructed.
Confirmed players will be bolded on the player list. When 10/13 players have confirmed, Day 1 will begin.
The mafia may discuss in their QT during pre-game until I instruct them not to.

Day

Days will have a fixed deadline of 14 real-time days. Deadline extensions will be granted only in extreme circumstances.
Players may vote to No Lynch; a no lynch will occur if a majority of players vote for no lynch or if no majority is achieved by deadline.
Lynch is achieved by simple majority.
Once majority is reached, no further votes or unvotes will count.
Votes should be on a separate line and flushed left, and MUST be bolded (e.g.,
Vote: Amrun
). The same applies to vote revocations (e.g.,
Unvote
). Unvotes are preferred but not necessary when switching votes (e.g.,
Unvote, Vote: Amrun
). Use of the vote tags (e.g., VOTE: Amrun) is optional. Abbreviations are okay as long as it's clear for whom the vote is made.
If I think it's a vote, it is a vote.
All players, including the lynched player, are allowed to discuss in twilight phase until I post the death scene.
Dead players may make one "Bah!" post that contains no game-related content, but it must also contain a picture of a sheep and/or the word "OTTERCOCKS"

Night

Nights will last at least 48 hours and no more than 72 hours.
Players who have a night action to submit must send it in before the announced deadline. I accept provisional actions up until the announced deadline, at which time I will use the last action submitted.

Moderator Actions

Flavor is for entertainment purposes only and has no significance in the game.
If there is an error in the vote count or something similar, bold your concern in the thread. Please PM me for all other issues.
Violations of these rules will result in consequences. Pretending to violate these rules will also result in consequences. What those consequences are depend on the severity of the action and on the game state.
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Amrun · Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:17 pm

Setup

This medically themed game was originally designed by Olinea. The setup is as follows:

MAFIA
1

Mafia Goon

1

Mafia Roleblocker

1

Mafia Doctor

TOWN
3

Doctors

7

Vanilla Townies

Special Mechanics:
~If 2 or more Doctors (including the Mafia Doctor) target the same person, that person dies.

1 person will receive the following PM:

Welcome to Happy Sunshine Hospital, X. You are
Dr. Kevorkian
, aka the
Mafia Doctor
, along with Y and Z. You are gunning for a job as the Chief of Surgery at Happy Sunshine, and in order to achieve your goals, you’ve decided to sabotage other doctors’ patients to make yourself look better. You’ve promised X and Y that if they help you out, you’ll bring them along with you straight to the top. Each night, you may assign yourself to one player’s case (in other words, you may protect one player each night). If you are the only doctor assigned to that player’s case, your treatment will be effective and the patient will not die that night. If two or more doctors are assigned to the same patient, that patient will die due to conflicting treatments.

-
Factional communication:
You may talk with your mafia partners at [quicktopic link goes here] during night phases and before the start of day one.

-
Factional kill:
Every night, one living member of the mafia may PM me with the name of someone who you want to kill, as well as who you want to be the killer (if no killer is specified, I will assume that the person sending the PM is the killer). That person will die unless in some way protected.

Win condition:
You win when all members of the town are dead and at least one member of the mafia is alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

1 person will receive the following PM:

Welcome to Happy Sunshine Hospital, X. You are a
Disgruntled Nurse
, aka a
Mafia Roleblocker
, along with Y and Z. You have worked at Happy Sunshine for 15 years, but the doctors still act as if you don’t know your gallbladder from your spleen – most doctors, anyway. Dr. Kevorkian once said “thank you” to you, so when he asked for your help in return for a raise and more time off, you agreed. If a doctor is causing problems for Dr. Kevorkian, you can have him or her summoned to elsewhere in the hospital, effectively roleblocking him or her for the night.

-
Factional communication:
You may talk with your mafia partners at [quicktopic link goes here] during night phases and before the start of day one.

-
Factional kill:
Every night, one living member of the mafia may PM me with the name of someone who you want to kill, as well as who you want to be the killer (if no killer is specified, I will assume that the person sending the PM is the killer). That person will die unless in some way protected.

Win condition:
You win when all members of the town are dead and at least one member of the mafia is alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

1 person will receive the following PM:

Welcome to Happy Sunshine Hospital, X. You are an
Ambitious Intern
, aka a
Mafia Goon
, along with Y and Z. You have agreed to help Dr. Kevorkian to rise to power in exchange for some extra OR time, but you’re only an intern, and therefore low in the pecking order. You have no special abilities except for factional abilities.

-
Factional communication:
You may talk with your mafia partners at [quicktopic link goes here] during night phases and before the start of day one.

-
Factional kill:
Every night, one living member of the mafia may PM me with the name of someone who you want to kill, as well as who you want to be the killer (if no killer is specified, I will assume that the person sending the PM is the killer). That person will die unless in some way protected.

Win condition:
You win when all members of the town are dead and at least one member of the mafia is alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

3 people will receive the following PM:

Welcome to Happy Sunshine Hospital, X. You are a
Doctor
. You are in the race for Chief of Surgery at Happy Sunshine, so you are eager to improve your record. Each night, you may assign yourself to one player’s case (in other words, you may protect one player each night). If you are the only doctor assigned to that player’s case, your treatment will be effective and the patient will not die that night. If two or more doctors are assigned to the same patient, that patient will die due to conflicting treatments. You’ve heard that someone is sabotaging patients; during the day, you must try and figure out who is causing the recent deaths because you really want that promotion.

Win condition:
You win when all mafia members are dead and at least one town member is alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

7 people will receive the following PM:

Welcome to Happy Sunshine Hospital, X. You are a
Patient
, aka a
Vanilla Townie
. You have been admitted for treatment at Happy Sunshine and are therefore at the mercy of the doctors. You have no special abilities, but you’ve heard that someone is sabotaging patients; during the day, you must try and figure out who is causing the recent deaths because you really don’t want to be next.

Win condition:
You win when all mafia members are dead and at least one town member is alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

Amrun · Post Post #3 (isolation #3) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:38 pm

SO.

You're all getting new roles because I'm an idiot. I am very sorry for this.

When I sent out the game link, many of you confirmed by replying to that PM and all of those replies ended up going to Quaroath as well as me.

Luckily, this is an Open Game, so all that is needed to fix it is simply to re-shuffle roles. Hold tight.

Amrun · Post Post #4 (isolation #4) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:18 pm

New roles sent out. Please re-confirm. Let me know if you did not get TWO role pms.

Amrun · Post Post #5 (isolation #5) » Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:37 am

VC1.1

Medical Care Fact:

America is responsible for the vast majority of medical innovations.

(0) Quaroath
(0) Hiraki
(0) DarthYoshi
(0) silavor
(0) pinkfloyd
(0) Sundy
(0) HellloooNewman
(0) zMuffinMan
(0) glowball
(0) tclawren
(0) NStride
(0) teamsleep
(0) farside22

Not Voting: Everyone

Deadline: Wednesday, August 3, 5:30pm EST

Amrun · Post Post #43 (isolation #6) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:39 am

VC1.2

Medical Fact:

Children grow fastest in the spring time..

(0) Quaroath
(0) Hiraki
(0) DarthYoshi
(1) silavor - NStride
(0) pinkfloyd
(1) Sundy - farside22
(0) HellloooNewman
(1) zMuffinMan - silavor
(0) glowball
(2) tclawren - glowball, pinkfloyd
(0) NStride
(4) teamsleep - DarthYoshi, tclawren, Sundy, HellloooNewman
(0) farside22

Not Voting: Quaroath, Hiraki, zMuffinMan, teamsleep

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: Wednesday, August 3, 5:30pm EST

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #56 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:44 am

VC1.3

Medical Fact:

Right-handed people live, on average, nine years longer than left-handed people do.

(0) Quaroath
(0) Hiraki
(0) DarthYoshi
(1) silavor - NStride
(0) pinkfloyd
(0) Sundy
(3) HellloooNewman - farside22, teamsleep, glowball
(1) zMuffinMan - silavor
(0) glowball
(1) tclawren - pinkfloyd
(0) NStride
(4) teamsleep - DarthYoshi, tclawren, Sundy, HellloooNewman
(0) farside22

Not Voting: Quaroath, Hiraki, zMuffinMan

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: Wednesday, August 3, 5:30pm EST

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #69 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:48 pm

Prodding Hiraki.

Amrun · Post Post #73 (isolation #9) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:00 am

The "subscribe" button emails you with each post. The "bookmark" button does not.

Amrun · Post Post #81 (isolation #10) » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:40 am

VC1.4

Medical Fact:

Everyone has a unique tongueprint.

(0) Quaroath
(0) Hiraki
(0) DarthYoshi
(1) silavor - NStride
(0) pinkfloyd
(0) Sundy
(3) HellloooNewman - teamsleep, glowball, zMuffinMan
(0) zMuffinMan
(2) glowball - DarthYoshi, silavor
(2) tclawren - pinkfloyd, farside22
(0) NStride
(3) teamsleep - tclawren, Sundy, HellloooNewman
(0) farside22

Not Voting: Quaroath, Hiraki

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: Wednesday, August 3, 5:30pm EST

Spoiler: Vote History

Vote histories are purely for player convenience.

Amrun · Post Post #110 (isolation #11) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:23 am

VC1.5

Medical Fact:

Healthy human hair emits sound.

(0) Quaroath
(1) Hiraki - HellloooNewman
(0) DarthYoshi
(1) silavor - NStride
(0) pinkfloyd
(0) Sundy
(4) HellloooNewman - teamsleep, glowball, zMuffinMan, Hiraki
(0) zMuffinMan
(3) glowball - DarthYoshi, silavor, tclawrren
(2) tclawren - pinkfloyd, farside22
(0) NStride
(1) teamsleep - Sundy
(0) farside22

Not Voting: Quaroath

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: Wednesday, August 3, 5:30pm EST

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #111 (isolation #12) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:34 am

Silavor and Sundy have been prodded.

Amrun · Post Post #126 (isolation #13) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:30 pm

VC1.6

Medical Fact:

The human heart continues to beat even if it is taken out of the body or cut in to pieces.

(0) Quaroath
(2) Hiraki - HellloooNewman, pinkfloyd
(0) DarthYoshi
(2) silavor - NStride, Quaroath
(0) pinkfloyd
(0) Sundy
(4) HellloooNewman - teamsleep, glowball, zMuffinMan, Hiraki
(0) zMuffinMan
(3) glowball - DarthYoshi, silavor, tclawrren
(1) tclawren - farside22
(0) NStride
(1) teamsleep - Sundy
(0) farside22

Not Voting: Quaroath

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: Wednesday, August 3, 5:30pm EST

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #130 (isolation #14) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:51 pm

Uuuuh. I was wondering why both of my modded games had the same deadlines. Fixing in OP, but leaving previous vc as they are.

Amrun · Post Post #135 (isolation #15) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:22 pm

ZMuffinMan and HellloooNewman have been prodded.

Amrun · Post Post #161 (isolation #16) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:04 am

VC1.7

Medical Fact:

The average female has the capability of having 35 children in her lifetime.

(0) Quaroath
(3) Hiraki - HellloooNewman, pinkfloyd, farside22
(0) DarthYoshi
(5) silavor - NStride, Quaroath, teamsleep, Sundy, DarthYoshi
(0) pinkfloyd
(1) Sundy - tclawren
(3) HellloooNewman - glowball, zMuffinMan, Hiraki
(0) zMuffinMan
(1) glowball - silavor
(0) tclawren
(0) NStride
(0) teamslee
(0) farside22

Not Voting:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: August 10, 5:30pm EST

Spoiler: Vote History

Searching for a replacement for farside22.

Prodding Quaroath.

Amrun · Post Post #163 (isolation #17) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:18 am

Hiraki wrote:
Mod: Is it correct that I have 4 votes, rather than 3?

No. Corrected.

Amrun · Post Post #164 (isolation #18) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:11 pm

Well, we were off to a good start, but...

Zmuffinman has not picked up his prod. I have begun to search for a repplacement for him, but I will fill farside's slot first. Iff zmuffinman posts before a replacement is found for him, he may keep his slot.

I am also prodding NStride. The prod on Q is still out as well.

If you know anyone willing to replace, do your best on them.

Do your best to stay active. It's been a good game up to this point.

Amrun · Post Post #168 (isolation #19) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:14 pm

Aaaand sleepykrew replaces farside.

Amrun · Post Post #169 (isolation #20) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:18 pm

Nobody Special steps in for zMuffinMan, filling our ranks once more. Welcome them both and lament the limbs I sold to get them here.

Amrun · Post Post #176 (isolation #21) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:02 pm

VC1.8

Medical Fact:

Our blood is on a 60,000-mile journey.

(0) Quaroath
(3) Hiraki - HellloooNewman, pinkfloyd, SleepyKrew
(0) DarthYoshi
(4) silavor - NStride, Quaroath, teamsleep, Sundy
(0) pinkfloyd
(1) Sundy - tclawren
(3) HellloooNewman - glowball, Nobody Special, Hiraki
(0) Nobody Special
(1) glowball - silavor
(0) tclawren
(1) NStride - DarthYoshi
(0) teamslee
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: August 10, 5:30pm EST

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #218 (isolation #22) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:52 pm

Prodded HN and tclaw.

Amrun · Post Post #229 (isolation #23) » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:04 am

VC1.9

Medical Fact:

The average red blood cell lives for 120 days.

(0) Quaroath
(2) Hiraki - HellloooNewman, pinkfloyd
(0) DarthYoshi
(4) silavor - NStride, Quaroath, teamsleep, Sundy
(0) pinkfloyd
(1) Sundy - tclawren
(3) HellloooNewman - glowball, Nobody Special, Hiraki
(0) Nobody Special
(1) glowball - silavor
(0) tclawren
(1) NStride - DarthYoshi
(1) teamsleep - SleepyKrew
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: August 10, 5:30pm EST

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #250 (isolation #24) » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:22 pm

NStride has been prodded.

Amrun · Post Post #252 (isolation #25) » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:35 pm

VC1.10

Medical Fact:

We have copper, zinc, cobalt, calcium, manganese, phosphates, nickel and silicon in our bodies.

(0) Quaroath
(2) Hiraki - HellloooNewman, pinkfloyd
(0) DarthYoshi
(4) silavor - NStride, Quaroath, teamsleep, Sundy
(1) pinkfloyd - DarthYoshi
(1) Sundy - tclawren
(3) HellloooNewman - glowball, Nobody Special, Hiraki
(0) Nobody Special
(1) glowball - silavor
(0) tclawren
(0) NStride
(1) teamsleep - SleepyKrew
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

V/LA: DarthYoshi

Deadline: August 10, 5:30pm EST

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #308 (isolation #26) » Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:12 pm

VC1.11

Medical Fact:

A red blood cell can circumnavigate your body in under 20 seconds.

(0) Quaroath
(1) Hiraki - HellloooNewman
(0) DarthYoshi
(5) silavor - NStride, Quaroath, teamsleep, Sundy, glowball
(1) pinkfloyd - DarthYoshi
(0) Sundy
(1) HellloooNewman - Hiraki
(0) Nobody Special
(3) glowball - silavor, pinkfloyd, tclawren
(0) tclawren
(0) NStride
(1) teamsleep - SleepyKrew
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting: Nobody Special

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

V/LA: DarthYoshi, glowball

Deadline: August 10, 5:30pm EST

Spoiler: Vote History

Quaroath is being prodded.

Amrun · Post Post #314 (isolation #27) » Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:37 pm

SleepyKrew wrote:How is it guaranteed that you're scum if he's town?
Also, that is not playing to your wincon unless you're hoping that willing to be killed makes you auto-town.

New fact up now.

Amrun · Post Post #362 (isolation #28) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:20 pm

VC1.12

Medical Fact:

People with high IQs have more copper and zinc in their hair.

(0) Quaroath
(1) Hiraki - HellloooNewman
(0) DarthYoshi
(5) silavor - NStride, Quaroath, Sundy, glowball, Nobody Special
(0) pinkfloyd
(1) Sundy - teamsleep
(1) HellloooNewman - Hiraki
(0) Nobody Special
(5) glowball - silavor, pinkfloyd, tclawren, SleepyKrew, DarthYoshi
(0) tclawren
(0) NStride
(1) teamsleep - SleepyKrew
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

V/LA: glowball

Deadline: August 10, 5:30pm EST - OR until at least 24 hours after I find a replacement

Spoiler: Vote History

Looking for a replacement for glowball. Prodding NStride. *sigh*

Amrun · Post Post #372 (isolation #29) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:30 am

Quilford replaces glowball effective immediately.

New deadline: Friday, August 12th, 10:30 pm.

NStride might need replacement. His message was confusing.

Amrun · Post Post #375 (isolation #30) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:15 pm

Singersigner replaces NStride.

Amrun · Post Post #391 (isolation #31) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:00 pm

VC1.13

Medical Fact:

Dandruff is inherited from your mother's side. Thanks, Mom!

(0) Quaroath
(1) Hiraki - HellloooNewman
(0) DarthYoshi
(5) silavor - NStride, Quaroath, Sundy, Quilford, Nobody Special
(0) pinkfloyd
(1) Sundy - teamsleep
(0) HellloooNewman
(0) Nobody Special
(6) Quilford - silavor, pinkfloyd, tclawren, SleepyKrew, DarthYoshi, Hiraki
(0) tclawren
(0) Singersigner
(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

V/LA:

Deadline: Friday, August 12, 10:30pm EST

Spoiler: Vote History

Sorry for SK's double listing in the previous VC. I hate doing them from my phone, but I have no choice.

Singer, your role pm was sent a long time ago but I will send it again.

Amrun · Post Post #394 (isolation #32) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:06 pm

I was in the process of editing it. Give me a couple of minutes to finalize them after I post them, guys.

With my phone, it's btter to post now and then check for fear of losing it all.

Amrun · Post Post #396 (isolation #33) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:12 pm

Good job keeping me on track. It's helpful.

Modding two games with no computer is pretty annoying but no one plans for dead computers!

Thank the Lord for blackberries.

Amrun · Post Post #416 (isolation #34) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:50 am

VC1.14

Medical Fact:

Considering all the tissues and cells in your body, 25 million new cells are being produced each second. That's a little less than the population of Canada - every second!

(0) Quaroath
(1) Hiraki - HellloooNewman
(0) DarthYoshi
(5) silavor - NStride, Quaroath, Sundy, Quilford, Nobody Special
(0) pinkfloyd
(1) Sundy - teamsleep
(0) HellloooNewman
(0) Nobody Special

(7) Quilford - silavor, pinkfloyd, tclawren, SleepyKrew, DarthYoshi, Hiraki, HellloooNewman

(0) tclawren
(0) Singersigner
(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

V/LA:

Spoiler: Vote History

Flip incoming.

Amrun · Post Post #419 (isolation #35) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:24 am

Please stop posting.

Amrun · Post Post #420 (isolation #36) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:13 pm

For patients, Happy Sunshine was always known as a quiet, peaceful hospital where sick people could go to get well and get a little rest.

For employees, Happy Sunshine's name was an oxymoron. The hospital was a rat race, full of doctors and nurses giving the word "cut throat" a new meaning.

The old Chief of Medicine was about to step down; the tension was palpable among the staff eligible for promotion. Doctors vying for the position dressed, and worked, to impress.

But despite this, the death rate at Happy Sunshine was climbing at an alarming rate. What was going on? They had a reputation to uphold!

Quilford, though a relatively healthy patient in for a routine appendectomy, was starting to disturb other patients and staff alike. He was very superstitious, and he had somehow overhead a couple of nurses gossiping about the upswing in mortalities.

He was spouting off about conspiracy theories involving doctors and higher ups, shouting so much that it had even caused another nearby patient to check out early.

Though they would normally keep Quilford a bit longer, the nursing staff quietly decided to discharge Quilford a bit early. When he refused to go, saying he needed to keep an eye on his roommate overnight, they called security and pretended nothing had happened as Quilford was dragged out forcefully.

Quilford -

Patient

- was evicted from the premises.

Night 1 commences.

Deadline is Friday, August 12 at 10:30pm EST OR at least 24 hours after I have found a replacement for Hiraki, who has requested replacement. I will keep you posted. Please stop doing this to me. It's getting ridiculous.

Amrun · Post Post #421 (isolation #37) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:38 pm

Hikari Link replaces Hiraki.

Official deadline for Night 1 is Friday, August 12, 11pm EST.

Amrun · Post Post #422 (isolation #38) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:15 pm

After hearing that a patient had been kicked out for spreading lies about a conspiracy theory, everyone, patient and staff alike, was on tenterhooks to see if Quilford had been right after all.

The day dawned over Happy Sunshine, as cheerful and bright as ever. The chirping birds were incongruous with the tidings the dawn brought with it: confirmation of the worst possible scenario.

A patient had died overnight; he seemed to have overdosed on some medication, but his night chart was missing.

Worse even than that, one of Happy Sunshine's premier doctors was dead too, and in a more gruesome fashion. They were found in the same room, though the doctor had no discernible reason to be there.

Whispers spread like wildfire across the hospital. It seems Quilford's theories deserved a little more credence than they had been given.

HellloooNewman -

Patient

has overdosed.

Sundy -

Town Doctor

has been shot.

Day 2 commences.

Amrun · Post Post #431 (isolation #39) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:56 am

VC2.1

Medical Fact:

The average person breathes in 10 pounds of dust over his or her lifetime.

(0) Quaroath
(2) Hikari Link - Darth Yoshi, tclawren
(0) DarthYoshi
(1) silavor - teamsleep
(2) pinkfloyd - SleepyKrew, silavor
(0) Nobody Special
(0) tclawren
(0) Singersigner
(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting: Quaroath, Hikari Link, pinkfloyd, Nobody Special, singersigner

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

V/LA:

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #455 (isolation #40) » Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:04 am

Hikari Link wrote:
@Mod:
I'm pretty sure there aren't 13 alive, so I'm thinking it doesn't take 7 to lynch.

Good point, well made. It's 6 to lynch.

Amrun · Post Post #460 (isolation #41) » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:00 am

VC2.2

Medical Fact:

The original purpose of eyebrows is thought to be keeping sweat out of the eyes.

(0) Quaroath
(1) Hikari Link - tclawren
(0) DarthYoshi
(4) silavor - teamsleep, Nobody Special, Darth Yoshi, Hikari Link
(2) pinkfloyd - SleepyKrew, silavor
(0) Nobody Special
(0) tclawren
(0) Singersigner
(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting: Quaroath, pinkfloyd, singersigner

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

V/LA:

Spoiler: Vote History

Edit: Fixed DY's vote.

... And NS'

Amrun · Post Post #464 (isolation #42) » Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:04 am

Shsjsjsiakjallshaka

Sorry.

Amrun · Post Post #488 (isolation #43) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:34 am

VC2.3

Medical Fact:

On average, humans produce 10 litres of saliva per day.

(0) Quaroath
(4) Hikari Link - tclawren, Darth Yoshi, SleepyKrew, pinkfloyd
(0) DarthYoshi
(3) silavor - teamsleep, Nobody Special, Hikari Link
(1) pinkfloyd - silavor
(0) Nobody Special
(0) tclawren
(0) Singersigner
(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting: Quaroath, singersigner

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

V/LA:

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #527 (isolation #44) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:15 pm

VC2.4

Medical Fact:

In one square inch of our hand we have nine feet of blood vessels, 600 pain sensors, 9000 nerve endings, 36 heat sensors and 75 pressure sensors.

(1) Quaroath - SleepyKrew
(3) Hikari Link - Darth Yoshi, pinkfloyd, silavor
(0) DarthYoshi
(3) silavor - teamsleep, Nobody Special, Hikari Link
(0) pinkfloyd
(0) Nobody Special
(0) tclawren
(0) Singersigner
(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting: Quaroath, singersigner

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

V/LA:

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #539 (isolation #45) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:48 pm

Received a phone call in the middle of doing this, so these come a little late, but:

Nobody Special and singersigner were prodded at the time of the VC.

New fact being edited in as we speak.

Amrun · Post Post #580 (isolation #46) » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:14 am

VC2.5

Medical Fact:

Our eyes can distinguish up to one million colour surfaces and take in more information than the largest telescope known to man.

(0) Quaroath -
(3) Hikari Link - Darth Yoshi, pinkfloyd, silavor
(0) DarthYoshi
(4) silavor - teamsleep, Nobody Special, Hikari Link, Quaroath
(2) pinkfloyd - tclawren, SleepyKrew
(0) Nobody Special
(0) tclawren
(0) Singersigner
(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting: singersigner

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

V/LA:

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #632 (isolation #47) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:08 am

VC2.6

Medical Fact:

A sneeze generates a wind of 166 km/hr (100 mi/hr), and a cough moves out at 100 km/hr (60 mi/hr).

(0) Quaroath -
(4) Hikari Link - Darth Yoshi, pinkfloyd, silavor, Nobody Special
(0) DarthYoshi
(3) silavor - teamsleep, Hikari Link, Quaroath
(1) pinkfloyd - tclawren
(1) Nobody Special - SleepyKrew
(0) tclawren
(0) Singersigner
(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting: singersigner

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

V/LA: Darth Yoshi

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #651 (isolation #48) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:48 am

VC2.7

Medical Fact:

. Beards are the fastest growing hairs on the human body. If the average man never trimmed his beard, it would grow to nearly 30 feet long in his lifetime.

(0) Quaroath -
(2) Hikari Link - pinkfloyd, Nobody Special
(0) DarthYoshi
(3) silavor - teamsleep, Hikari Link, Quaroath
(2) pinkfloyd - tclawren, silavor
(1) Nobody Special - SleepyKrew
(0) tclawren
(1) Singersigner - Darth Yoshi
(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting: singersigner

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday, August 26th, 11pm EST

V/LA: Darth Yoshi, teamsleep

Spoiler: Vote History

Deadline added.

Amrun · Post Post #653 (isolation #49) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:51 am

Shuddap you.

Amrun · Post Post #658 (isolation #50) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:11 am

I prodded Quaoroath, but gave him 48 hours to respond, it being the middle of the weekend.

Amrun · Post Post #683 (isolation #51) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:29 am

VC2.8

Medical Fact:

If you were to finish eight cans of tuna in one sitting, you would ingest the same amount of mercury that you would get by eating a rectal thermometer or a non-stick frying pan.

(0) Quaroath -
(2) Hikari Link - pinkfloyd, Nobody Special
(0) DarthYoshi
(1) silavor - Quaroath
(3) pinkfloyd - tclawren, silavor, Hikari Link
(1) Nobody Special - SleepyKrew
(0) tclawren
(1) Singersigner - Darth Yoshi
(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting: singersigner, teamsleep

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday, August 26th, 11pm EST

V/LA: Darth Yoshi

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #686 (isolation #52) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:35 am

Nobody Special and tclawren have been prodded.

P-editt: ... Hungry people?

Amrun · Post Post #690 (isolation #53) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:57 am

SleepyKrew wrote:Quaroath hasn't posted in 3 1/2 days. Will failhulk crush the hamstar?

He has already been prodded andt 24 more hours to post.

Amrun · Post Post #703 (isolation #54) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:49 pm

VC2.9

Medical Fact:

We are 70% water.

(0) Quaroath -
(2) Hikari Link - pinkfloyd, Nobody Special
(0) DarthYoshi
(1) silavor - Quaroath
(4) pinkfloyd - tclawren, silavor, Hikari Link, teamsleep
(1) Nobody Special - SleepyKrew
(0) tclawren
(1) Singersigner - Darth Yoshi
(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting: singersigner

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday, August 26th, 11pm EST

V/LA: Darth Yoshi

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #726 (isolation #55) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:25 pm

VC2.10

Medical Fact:

it is physically impossible to lick your elbow.

(0) Quaroath -
(1) Hikari Link - pinkfloyd
(0) DarthYoshi
(0) silavor -
(3) pinkfloyd - silavor, Hikari Link, teamsleep
(1) Nobody Special - SleepyKrew
(0) tclawren
(4) Singersigner - Darth Yoshi, Quaroath, tclawren, Nobody Special
(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting: singersigner

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday, August 26th, 11pm EST

V/LA: Darth Yoshi

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #728 (isolation #56) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:34 pm

Nobody Special wrote:
Amrun wrote:
VC2.10

Medical Fact:
it is physically impossible to lick your elbow.

Unless your arm has been removed.

I have a friend who is a freak of nature and can do it with an attached arm.

I honestly think there is something wrong with his torso because he can do some freaky shit with it.

He should have been a contortionist instead of a preacher.

Amrun · Post Post #772 (isolation #57) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:29 pm

VC2.11

Medical Fact:

Unwrapped toothpicks and candies at cash registers in restaurants often contain fecal matter from people who failed to wash their hands after using the restroom and then took a toothpick or candy themselves.

(0) Quaroath -
(1) Hikari Link - pinkfloyd
(0) DarthYoshi
(0) silavor -
(3) pinkfloyd - Hikari Link, teamsleep, SleepyKrew
(1) Nobody Special - singersigner
(0) tclawren
(5) Singersigner - Darth Yoshi, Quaroath, tclawren, Nobody Special, silavor
(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting:

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday, August 26th, 11pm EST

V/LA:

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #774 (isolation #58) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:40 pm

SleepyKrew wrote:Thank you for that fact Amrun.

You're welcome. I hope you think of it the next time you go to a restaurant.

Amrun · Post Post #776 (isolation #59) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:44 pm

VC2.12

Medical Fact:

If you yelled for 8 years, 7 months and 6 days, you would have produced enough sound energy to heat one cup of coffee.

(0) Quaroath -
(1) Hikari Link - pinkfloyd
(0) DarthYoshi
(0) silavor -
(3) pinkfloyd - Hikari Link, teamsleep, SleepyKrew
(1) Nobody Special - singersigner
(0) tclawren
(5) Singersigner - Darth Yoshi, Quaroath, tclawren, Nobody Special, silavor
(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting:

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday, August 26th, 11pm EST

V/LA:

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #804 (isolation #60) » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:31 am

VC2.13

Medical Fact:

the average woman's threshold of pain is about 9 times higher than the average man's.

(0) Quaroath -
(0) Hikari Link -
(0) DarthYoshi
(0) silavor -
(3) pinkfloyd - Hikari Link, teamsleep, SleepyKrew
(1) Nobody Special - singersigner
(0) tclawren

(6) Singersigner - Darth Yoshi, Quaroath, tclawren, Nobody Special, silavor, pinkfloyd

(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting:

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday, August 26th, 11pm EST

V/LA:

Spoiler: Vote History

A lynch has been reached. Flip upcoming.

Amrun · Post Post #805 (isolation #61) » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:12 am

With a doctor dead as well as a patient, the attention turned to the other staff. What patient would kill a doctor, when they were all relying on those doctors to get better?

But what motivation does staff have to kill doctors, others argued?

And then, from the back of the room, a nurse was the first to say it.

"The race for Chief of Medicine," she whispered. "Maybe it was got a little too heated..."

The idea took hold and the doctors came under fire.

Eventually, one stood out from the rest. She was talented, but the others questioned her motives.

Happy Sunshine decided to fire her just in case the accusations had any merit.

Singersigner left with her head held high, knowing her accusers were wrong.

Singersigner - Town Doctor

has been lynched.

Night 2 commences.

Get your actions to me asap.

Deadline is Friday, August 26, 10pm EST.

Amrun · Post Post #806 (isolation #62) » Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:23 pm

The next morning began on a somber note. Happy Sunshine had lost one of its finest doctors yesterday, and why? For a conspiracy theory?

It all felt so silly in the morning. Everyone regretted what had been done to singersigner.

But as a team entered the operating room to prepare for the first surgery of the day, they were in for a nasty shock.

SleepyKrew was supposed to have performed the surgery, but instead, he lay on the surgical table, a bullet between his eyes.

He had been left there as a message; that much was clear. But what message?

No one knew.

SleepyKrew - Town Doctor

has been shot.

Day 3 commences.

Deadline is September 9, 11 pm EST.

Amrun · Post Post #809 (isolation #63) » Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:16 pm

Zero access for me tomorrow - no vote counts, no flips. Sorry!

Amrun · Post Post #816 (isolation #64) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:44 pm

VC3.1

Medical Fact:

In the womb, the baby's body is covered by a thin layer of hair but as soon as the baby is born it disappears.

(0) Quaroath -
(0) Hikari Link -
(0) DarthYoshi
(0) silavor -

(6) pinkfloyd - Darth Yoshi, Quaroath, Hikari Link, Nobody Special, silavor, teamsleep

(1) Nobody Special - singersigner
(0) tclawren
(0) teamsleep

Not Voting: tclawren, pinkfloyd

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. (Note: Silavor was the actual hammer.)

V/LA:

Spoiler: Vote History

A lynch has been reached. Flip upcoming.

Amrun · Post Post #817 (isolation #65) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:02 pm

Not too long after the day began, there was another major event.

A nurse was caught trying to slip some deadly medication into a doctor's cup of coffee, which he had asked the nurse to fetch.

pinkfloyd glared at everyone as he passed after being fired on the spot, but said nothing.

Pink Floyd - Mafia Roleblocker

has been lynched.

Night 3 commences.

Deadline is Monday, August 29, 11pm EST.

Amrun · Post Post #818 (isolation #66) » Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:50 pm

After the naughty nurse had been discharged, spirits rose at Happy Sunshine. Maybe that was all there was to it, just a disgruntled nurse!

The discovery of a new patient's body tore that theory to pieces, though. There was no way a bullet to the head could be passed off as natural causes, after all.

tclawren -

Patient

has been shot.

Day 4 commences.

Deadline is Tuesday, September 13th, 1am.

Amrun · Post Post #826 (isolation #67) » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:38 pm

VC4.1

Medical Fact:

There is more bacteria in your mouth than the human population of the United States and Canada combined. In fact, bacteria makes up 10% of an average human's dry weight.

(1) Quaroath - Hikari Link
(0) Hikari Link -
(0) DarthYoshi
(0) silavor -
(0) Nobody Special -
(0) teamsleep

(2) No Lynch - Darth Yoshi, Quaroath

Not Voting: silavor, Nobody Special, teamsleep

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch or no lynch.

V/LA:

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #832 (isolation #68) » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:05 pm

VC4.2

Medical Fact:

Babies start dreaming even before they're born.

(0) Quaroath -
(0) Hikari Link -
(0) DarthYoshi
(0) silavor -
(0) Nobody Special -
(0) teamsleep

(2) No Lynch - Darth Yoshi, Quaroath, Nobody Special, Hikari Link

Not Voting: teamsleep, silavor

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch or no lynch.

V/LA:

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #833 (isolation #69) » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:09 pm

Happy Sunshine was extra vigilant during the 4th day after Quilford's dismissal. If anyone was up to no good, they were too smart to try it just then.

No one has been lynched.

Night 4 commences.

Deadline is Thursday, September 1st, 11:30pm EST.

Amrun · Post Post #834 (isolation #70) » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:33 pm

Happy Sunshine woke to the new dawn with hope; perhaps no suspicious activity yesterday meant this nightmare was coming to a close.

They were quite disappointed to find the body of yet another patient, this time left in the waiting room, sat on a chair as if he were waiting for news of a loved one. It was gruesome.

Hikari Link -

Patient

has been shot.

Day 5 commences.

Deadline is Thursday, September 16th, 1:30am EST.

Amrun · Post Post #853 (isolation #71) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:54 pm

VC5.1

Medical Fact:

When you blush, your stomach lining also reddens.

(1) Quaroath - silavor
(1) DarthYoshi - teamsleep
(0) silavor -
(0) Nobody Special -
(0) teamsleep

Not Voting: Quaroath, DarthYoshi, Nobody Special

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch or no lynch.

V/LA:

Spoiler: Vote History

Amrun · Post Post #875 (isolation #72) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:40 am

VC5.2

Medical Fact:

18,000 people die each year in the U.S. because they cannot financially access health care.

(2) Quaroath - silavor, DarthYoshi

(3) DarthYoshi - teamsleep, Quaroath, Nobody Special

(0) silavor -
(0) Nobody Special -
(0) teamsleep

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch or no lynch.

Spoiler: Vote History

A lynch has been reached! Flip upcoming!

Amrun · Post Post #876 (isolation #73) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:50 am

Scared to become the next victim, like Sundy, singersigner, and SleepyKrew, most of Happy Sunshine's hospital staff decided to seek jobs elsewhere.

Except one. Quaraoth Kevorkian and his dedicated intern, Nobody Special, took the opportunity they had worked so hard to create. Dr. Kevorkian became the new Chief of Surgeon. Nobody Special's career was now on the fast track, and they re-hired pinkfloyd the nurse as the new Head Nurse.

The group had succeeded in its goal; they had taken over the hospital. They evicted one last cantankerous patient who was bemoaning the immorality of their methods, just as a show of power.

Darth Yoshi -

Patient

has been lynched.

The scumteam of

Quaroath, Nobody Special, and pinkfloyd

win!

Amrun · Post Post #877 (isolation #74) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:59 am

1. Quaroath - Mafia Doctor
2. Hiraki - Vanilla Townie
3. DarthYoshi - Vanilla Townie
4. silavor - Vanilla Townie
5. pinkfloyd - Mafia Roleblocker
6. Sundy - Town Doctor
7. HellloooNewman - Vanilla Townie
8. zMuffinMan - Mafia Goon
9. glowball - Vanilla Townie
10. tclawren - Vanilla Townie
11. NStride - Town Doctor
12. teamsleep - Vanilla Townie
13. farside22 - Town Doctor

Amrun · Post Post #878 (isolation #75) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:00 am

Night 1 Actions:

Town:

Sundy - Protect pinkfloyd

SleepyKrew - Protect HelllooNewman

Singer - No Action

Scum:

NS - Kill Sundy

PF - Block tclawren

Q - Protects HellloooNewman

Results:

Sundy (Town Doctor) dead
HellloooNewman (Patient) dead

Night 2 Actions:

Town:

-SleepyKrew protects pinkfloyd

Scum:

-NS kills SleepyKrew
-Q protects tclawren
-PF blocks tclawren

Night 3 Actions:

Quaroath kills tclawren

Night 4 Actions:

Nobody Special kills Hikari Link

Amrun · Post Post #879 (isolation #76) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:01 am

Thanks everyone for playing!

Hats off to SleepyKrew, who totally pegged the entire scumteam.

Congrats to the scumteam.

Amrun · Post Post #880 (isolation #77) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:03 am

Dead QT:

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/KNsVqUuvmmh

Scum QT:

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/hjBVGDHHUJY

Amrun · Post Post #887 (isolation #78) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:59 pm

Thanks. Thanks especially to all the replacements!

Sorry for my issues with phone access etc. It was annoying for me, at least.

Amrun · Post Post #902 (isolation #79) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:33 am

I was interested to see how this set-up would play out, knowing I was the first to run it.

I do think it could stand some tweaking, possibly the removal of the roleblocker.

Any ideas for a catchy name for it?

Amrun · Post Post #905 (isolation #80) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:23 am

One thing: I do think the roleblocker provides an interesting foil to the "use docs as vigs" strategy. In this game, the scum tried to employ it. They blocked tclawren because they believed if tclawren was a doctor, he was most likely to doc-vig pinkfloyd. This could have successfully stopped a doc vig on scum.

Amrun · Post Post #908 (isolation #81) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:12 pm

No, the mechanic does not currently work that way.

Do others think taking out the rb and making 3 doctors on a player save him (4 kill him) is a good idea?