So is this a form of "too scummy to be scum" argument? Cause those are silly.AlmasterGM wrote:I'm just having trouble believing Hoopla could be SO BAD at being mafia.
I know it's a silly argument, but she seems so smart (with all those statistics and analysis of the Normal queue and stuff). If she's scum, her play here is beyond slippage ... it's downright TERRRRIBLE.
LOL, even when Hoopla is terrible it's not Hoopla's fault. It's everyone else.Hoopla wrote:I had to play slightly below par to compensate for the poor town play leaving me nowhere to hide as a mason, but I debate I looked scummy at all, when there was little to no effort put into trying to determine my alignment at all. I don't think I am a difficult person to read, but I'm dazzled so many players got it so wrong this game, and I'm even more dazzled that some are still debating whether I am scum or not now.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Yeah but you were so scummy that we're having a difficult time just accepting that you're not scum lol
AlmasterGM wrote:I'm just having trouble believing Hoopla could be SO BAD at being mafia.
I know it's a silly argument, but she seems so smart (with all those statistics and analysis of the Normal queue and stuff). If she's scum, her play here is beyond slippage ... it's downright TERRRRIBLE.
AGM wrote:I agree but I feel like what's going on here is just too polarizing.LMP wrote:So is this a form of "too scummy to be scum" argument? Cause those are silly.
Vote: Hoopla
If Hoopla is scum she is practically THROWING herself at us.
AGM wrote:Hoopla, claim your partner please.
Hoopla wrote:I will, but why do you believe me less than Fate?
AGM wrote:Because you are the one under pressure now. It doesn't make sense for Fate to "claim" scum at this juncture just to lynch you.
AGM wrote:If you are town, we end up ahead (1:1 trade).
AGM wrote:We are not going to TEE HEE this claim business.
Either Fate or Hoopla is getting lynched today.
If the one flips town, the other is scum and is lynched immediately.
End of story.
Right now I am waiting on Andrew and/or Fate to verify Hoopla's claim.
AGM reads scum to me during this course of events. I especially loved the "we lynch Fate or Hoopla, and if one flips tow the other is scum and is lynched immediately". Also, what's with the "it's ok to out your partner, it'll be a 1:1 trade". That's a LIE. It becomes a 2:1 trade once the mason has to out there partner. I think AGM scum is a likely possibility. But, I'd like to draw everyone's attention to this awesome post:AGM wrote:YESSSSSS.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
FATE. Why did you pull a gambit claim and steal all my glory? Your lynch was supposed to be MINE. MINE. MINE.
Anyway, Hoopla - remember that other game where you did all that VCA and said it strongly pointed to me being town? And then I was scum and won the game because of it?
My bolding/italicizing.Battousai wrote:unvote, Vote: FateI have a town read on you, but you can not live to end game. Too much WIFOM. Though, if you are townat least you gave us some interesting reactions to help with outting the remaining masons.
I can't speak for flinter's play.Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:I mean look at the entirety of flinter/LMP’s play and it’s just characterized by safe, soft plays. Flinter, she buddies Hoopla pretty hard D1 not just opposing the dumb Hoopla “policy” lynch but going so far as to vote for Nacho. She refused to be part of the Andrius wagon and then tumbles quite neatly onto the mislynch of parknourie.
As for "avoiding the one scum wagon we did have", if my memory serves me that wagon formed after flinter flaked, thus of course we weren't on it. As for soft play, I disagree completely with your characterization of my play since I joined the game.By that point she gets replaced out by LMP who moves Hoopla to L-2 in his first post with absolutely no reasons and his refutation of AGM’s argument is nothing more than a statement against his; no evidence or logic; he’s just repeating something he’s heard before uncritically. And then he’s equally content to sheep behind Hoopla once it becomes clear she is a mason and lynch Fate uncritically of whether he's town or not.
It’s soft play just limping onto town wagons with no reasons and avoiding the one scum wagon we did have; it’s pathetic and scummy as hell.
VOTE: LynchMePls
That's fine with me. In fact, I'm so sure Battousai/AGM are the last scum, I'll volunteer to go to the noose first after AGM flips scum.Albert B. Rampage wrote:But at the same time...
This is nifty coming from a scum's perspective.AlmasterGM wrote:See this is why Fate is dangerous, Hoopla.
Do you really trust leaving him alive until tomorrow?
Hoopla wanted to lynch Battousai or LMP before Fate. If there's a connection to be found, the common denominator of this equation would be AGM who successfully defended his partner Battousai or LMP. I think that we should perhaps lynch AGM today for the possibilities it affords us.
Active lurk MY FUCKING ASS! That is complete SHIT. Everyone who is town, read my game and tell me honestly if it is active lurking. That charge is BASELESS. I've only been in the game 1 game day, and that game day was really short in RL time. I was active that whole time. That is the OPPOSITE of active lurking! You trying to twist my one comment where I relent to sheeping Hoopla in the face of her being UNQUESTIONABLY PROVEN TOWN is hilarious. If I'm lynched, you guys gotta get AGM and Battousai.AlmasterGM wrote:O rly? And where were you during this entire exchange? Voicing your opposition? No, you were busy:LMP wrote:AGM reads scum to me during this course of events. I especially loved the "we lynch Fate or Hoopla, and if one flips tow the other is scum and is lynched immediately". Also, what's with the "it's ok to out your partner, it'll be a 1:1 trade". That's a LIE. It becomes a 2:1 trade once the mason has to out there partner. I think AGM scum is a likely possibility. But, I'd like to draw everyone's attention to this awesome post:Cooooooooool.LMP wrote:Sheeping Hoopla.
DDD's analysis is right. Your predecessor did nothing and you have done nothing but active-lurk either. And you're doing the same thing today, herping back and forth from bato-whatever to me the second there is a shred of support for either side.
Vote: LMP
Likely scumbag #2: Nobody Special
I love how you try to imply that I only went from Battousai to you because of others. I made a massive post showing your scummy actions.AGM wrote:DDD's analysis is right. Your predecessor did nothing and you have done nothing but active-lurk either. And you're doing the same thing today, herping back and forth from bato-whatever to me the second there is a shred of support for either side.
LOL. Nice scum-defense.AlmasterGM wrote:I went back and read your posts. If my masons-claiming plan was so fucking bad, then why didn't you say so THEN? Hmm?
andrew wrote:agm and batt are the scumz.
LMP wrote:If I'm lynched, you guys gotta get AGM and Battousai.
ABR wrote:Hoopla wanted to lynch Battousai or LMP before Fate. If there's a connection to be found, the common denominator of this equation would be AGM who successfully defended his partner Battousai or LMP. I think that we should perhaps lynch AGM today for the possibilities it affords us.
I LOL'd. ITT Battousai goes into panic mode and tries to get a grip on just how f*cked he and AGM are.Battousai wrote:If AGM is lynched and flips scum, who is the final scumbuddy?
MASSIVE LOL! What about this connection:Battousai wrote:If AGM flips scum, the best connection that leads to a scum partner is no one.
You kinda want to forget that one, huh?Albert B. Rampage wrote:Hoopla wanted to lynch Battousai or LMP before Fate. If there's a connection to be found, the common denominator of this equation would be AGM who successfully defended his partner Battousai or LMP. I think that we should perhaps lynch AGM today for the possibilities it affords us.