OPEN 281 C9++ day 4

[drmyshottyizsik]

Vote Tanstalas

For being sucmz

[drmyshottyizsik]

No ahhhhh is just being dumb. And that vote on me simply for me being me is totally..... ok fine my past c9++ action have been sub par that vote is fair.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Andy!!!!!

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I will not answer those questions, they contribute nothing to this game at all. Any way Magnetic looks really scummy right now, but I don't want to put him at L-1 yet

unvote
vote TheMasterHand

You try to derail the game... hmmmmmm scummy.

[drmyshottyizsik]

@

TheHand

The only problem with your idea with the claim is that is it worth loosing a vig day 1? Because if the Vig does claim, then wouldn't the doctor protect them?

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I'm not saying that they didn't turn out with helpful answers, but the point of them didn't seem like it was to find scum, but rather to do nothing really helpful.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I've played 61 Games, that's the only question I'll answer.

and he replaced out of 30 of them. k thnx bye

[drmyshottyizsik]

mE TOO, HE IS WILLING TO NOT ONLY OUT, BUT KILL A PRO TOWN VIG DAY 1

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What do you guys think of asking for the one who shot aaah400 to claim?

Yes it would out a townie and PR, but they'd be NEAR-confirmed town and I can't see scum pinning themselves down this early in the game to one role.

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TMH you want him to claim, you know that he will be NK'd so he will die.

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Ask Mothrax, even in the newbie game I'm in I don't want to answer the basic dumb questions. I find then dumb and pointless.
I have not replaced out of 30. I have finished 61 games and replaced out of I think 4 or 5.
You are dodging Hand, please respond to my last post.

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Powerrox his questions are about pointless things that don't have to do with this game, my question is about a post accusing him of something, something that is very useful in this game.

unvote
vote PR

That was a really scummy mis rep, and a terrible excuse for a vote.

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TMH you want him to claim, you know that he will be NK'd so he will die.

This was never responded too.

[drmyshottyizsik]

it's neither. I've read and I've under stood. I feel that it is scummy for TMH to want to out the vig.

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*sigh*

unvote vote THM

my vote on PR was more one of anger. TMH is the real scum here. There is no pro town reason to out a PR. Also I was just ninja'd. So again TMH you make a very scummy mistake. You threaten Park? Why? You are doing 2 dumb things. One telling him his vote is wrong with out telling him why, and two saying he should unvote because agreeing with me will make him unpopular? Really? Andy you better tell your other head to stop playing badly. I now really like my vote.

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Awesome you did it again!!!!! You gave no reason why what I said was wrong or any sort of rebutle at all, instead you simply dodged with a ghetto witness.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Chillax, I'm here.

Finally the candle raper annoys me.

parknourie, you have one post to describe in which why you think we are scum. Saying "I have a STRONG GUT VIBE" will not cut it. You will also list one other scum suspect.

Shotty, answer the following (with proper spelling please):
I haven't outed a PR, have I?

No, but you have stated that you would like to.

Name all the players and roles of the players I have outed by asking policy-related questions.

None, but you've made your self look uber scummy.

I was bringing it up for discussion, to help stimulate conversation. What is scummy about that?

One, that conversation should never have even been thought of, and two the idea with in its self is scummy. Also the only thing that could come over that conversation is either an outed PR or nothing so there are no pro-town reasons for bringing it up.

When did we "threaten" park? Candlestick was commenting that you're not exactly a popular fellow (references available upon request).

You warned him with a threatening tone.

His vote is wrong because:
1) its not random
2) based solely on gut
3) we are town

Yes, agreeing with you is generally a bad idea. Whenever we are in a game together, one of us is scum.
And we're town. Doesn't leave that many options open, does it?

I

now

really like my vote.

Boldface is mine.
So. You didn't like your vote on me before? Why is that? Not having a valid excuse than wanting to lynch someone who has professed a geniune interest in making sure you don't live to see D2?

I liked my vote to start with, but after reading that post I REALLY liked it.

TOWNIER THAN THOU:
Escho
tanstalas
TMH
Chronopie

SCUMMIER THAN THOU:
Shotty - for horrid arguments, blatant misreps, and at the LEAST, a wonderful policy lynch
parmnourie - for massive gut-voting with no explanations
Magnetic - attempting to appear as pro-town as possible (not sure if I worded this right...)

Everyone else should post more. *nods*

- The One and Only Baker

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I was wondering about that too, TMH how do you know there is a 1 shot vig?

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WIFOM!

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Tans I was thinking the same thing. This is simply a way for park to out a town PR or two, and confirm him self as town.

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I'm saying Park is NOT town I think he may be mafia. Sorry if that was confusing, I meant that he, by saying that, was trying to make him self confirmed town.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I'm saying Park is NOT town I think he may be mafia. Sorry if that was confusing, I meant that he, by saying that, was trying to make him self confirmed town.

THE HYPOCRISY...
Seriously. You were pretty much in love with him/her yesterday and then now going "oh yeah he's scum".
This is why a massclaim is bad, and why shotty should never attempt to lead a town.

- The Butcher

I was never in love with him/her yesterday. He/She was actually more liking what I was saying. There is no hypocrisy here at all. Also that is not at all why a Mass Claim is bad. A mass claim is bad because it only helps scum. I'm not trying to lead town I am simply being the town that am and actually trying hard in this game.

[drmyshottyizsik]

TMH right now and that has already been explained.
Look at posts 78-83.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Personally I'm leaning toward a vote on Park too.

[drmyshottyizsik]

No cookie I don't need a queue, but I want to be more sure about my vote. I want my info.
Why are you voting me?

[drmyshottyizsik]

unvote
vote Park

SK is the most likely role for him yes... I also hate how he says he KNOWS so much... it just doesn't sit right.

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Wow... shut up SK!

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Park only an SK would have as much info as you...

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NOOOOOOOOOO!! Look at the set upThe SK knows how many townies there are and what kind of mafia there is. Because each level of SK his one more immunity. Then using deductive reasoning they can estimate how many docs/vigs/cops there are based on N0 actions.

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read the set up please. Depending on the number of VTs there is either no sk or an sk with certian abilities. Also to adress the point to why I said Sk. It reminds me of the time I fake claimed in NFL mafia. An Sk can claim vig a lot easier than mafia can. The roles are a lot more similar.

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Also cookie answer my question at the top of this page.

P-Edit

They have more than one passive ability and a kill. Depending on the number of townies, the sk could have any where from 2-5 passive abilities I think.

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Cookie I was asking escho to read the set up and I still want to know why you are voting me, because your 1) Is false and your 2) Is a shitty reason. Sooooo by your logic I should be voting you because you are being hypocritical and your vote on me follows your number 1 reason for me being scum.

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I'm about to go out on a date <3!!
Anyway ya Magnetic seems to have slipped under the radar...

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I saw his first vote on TMH and reason goes along the lines of his questions derailing the game and saying that its scummy...ok so it wastes like 2-3 min of everyones time out of the 3weeks. WOW! isnt that a huge delay for the town.

My problem with it was not the delay, but rather the derailing of the game. I saw, and still see, no town benefit to asking those questions.

Also, on the same post he says that he thinks magnetic is scum but doesn't want to put him on L-1 YET implying it's too early. But what do we see here 3 days after? Park on L-1 with Dr's vote placed on him...hmmm pretty fishy.

Yes it was way to early. Are you a fan of quick lynches in an RVS? I'm not. Plus Magnetic has seemed to have disappeared, yes we all could wait for him to get back and question him then, but we may have 4 anti town roles in the game, so I moved on to the next scummiest person. Also this vote is one that is not in the RVS and has more reason than a scummy answer to a anti-town question.

And what's more is that the whole reason why dr voted TMH was because he thought TMH was trying to kill the one shot vig - and guess who claimed one shot vig, ofc it was park...and now you're voting him? That's a massive hypocrisy.

No wanting to lynch someone for outing the 1 shot vig, and voting someone, who under no pressure claims one-shot vig out of the blue, after a long discussion of who could the vig be if there even is one is completely different. Park had no reason to claim, and it is a scummy way for him to make him self look like confirmed town.

I personally don't like how he tells park to "shut up," just makes him look like a guy dying to lynch a person as soon as possible.

Well that sounds like a personal problem. I'm not dying to lynch him, I'm just pissed at him. Because either he is an SK who made a bad move, or he is a one shot vig who is being very anti-town by not only "shooting night 0", but also by claiming when his claim was anti-town and un-needed.

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It's not that magnetic doesn't want to play, he just wants to troll. I find him incredibly scummy for his past few posts

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i'm sick

[drmyshottyizsik]

Mod

Can Magnetic be mod killed for playing against his win condition... also can the day go on?

im not gonna answer this until later

[drmyshottyizsik]

unvote
vote Magnetic

...
WHY EVERYTIME I PLAY C9++ DOES SOMEONE PLAY AGAINST THERE WIN CONDITION!?!?!?!?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Because I was on drugs and raging....
Also no asking for a mod kill here isn't scummy at all. He claimed scum, we shouldn't have to waste a day for him to die.

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Escho why?

[drmyshottyizsik]

*reads* Escho WHY!?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Tans claiming scum is playing against your win con no matter what!

[drmyshottyizsik]

wow... no! a pl day two with a trigger happy vig/an Sk plus mafia?!
That leaves us with either 3 Town 2 Mafia after tonight
OR even worse 2 Mafia, 1 Sk, and 2 Town...

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Also we know we do have at least a vig so in the off chance we have a vig and an SK we could end up with 2 Mafia 1 Sk and 1 Town after today.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I don't know what I'm at do you guys want a claim?

[drmyshottyizsik]

I'm a Vig.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I shot AAAH400 night 0

[drmyshottyizsik]

How do you know we don't have more than one doctor? Or a back up doctor? OR! a certian number of roll blockers.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Omfg...I'm so confused...I guess it's still possible to have two vigs...

What was ur night action dmsis?

Also

Unvote

I shot Aaah400 N0 and didn't shoot N1

[drmyshottyizsik]

I'm a full vig. TMH is obv scum since he isn't considering the fact that we may have more that one doctor >.>
Also I didn't shoot night 1 Because I didn't know who was scum. I got lucky N0 and I didn't want to push my luck and mis shoot N1

[drmyshottyizsik]

unvote
vote TMH

P-Edit
@Tans I already answered that. I didn't want to push my luck. After already hitting scum N0 I didn't feel comfortable shooting N1. I didn't have any strong enough reads. I almost shot TMH, but I felt I could get more info out of him today and maybe use him to find his last scum buddy.

P-Edit(again)
OK!

[drmyshottyizsik]

Edit: I meant to type "I could get more info out of him today and maybe use him to find connections with hist last scum buddy(meaning Magnetic)." I wanted to see your reaction to his death and what nots.

[drmyshottyizsik]

1) TMH, Hoppster, and Power
2) NOT AGAIN!!! NEVER AGAIN!

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Wait couldn't we have a spy and no SK?

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^^I think we are.

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TMH why are you against a mass claim? Is it because it will catch you as scum?

[drmyshottyizsik]

TMH a mass claim is the right move right now. It tells us vigs who not to shoot.

[drmyshottyizsik]

TMH go look at ythan's sig!

[drmyshottyizsik]

He can't self-hammer anyhow, 2 people unvoted

QFT
Also it's not Ythan's sig anymore but look at this.
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p2773948
I made a promise.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ok, everyone who isn't voting for shotty ATM really should do it in their next post, or I'll be very suspicious about you (In case shotty somehow isn't scum)

So if I'm not scum and they DON'T vote for me you will think less of them......... OK!
Also you just moved up my scum list.

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@TMH you are still scummiest IMO then it's PR then hoppster, hoppster not because of his V/LA but because he is very... idk kind of unreadable right now. I have a good town read on everyone else.

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exactly. I think we need a mass claim, but we can't do that untill they get back.

[drmyshottyizsik]

TMH is scum... end of story.

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So since it is totally possible that I am a Vig, and I am, you want to lynch me and then have two-three more people killed tonight and have a towny playing king maker? NICE!

P-Edit:
THEY WON'T I AM A VIG!

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so we end up with two dead vigs and a dead towny?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!? WTF!
If you guys don't lynch TMH right now because of that you are crazy.

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So what if PR is an SK? he kills me mafia gets a kill. you lynch him, mafia get another kill and it's lylo? We are not in lylo now and your plan, at best puts us in lylo day 4 sooo... you are scum.

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But it's not a one for one trade! At the best PR is an SK and since he would be bullet proof I would die and he would live also mafia will kill tonight, then you lynch PR and mafia gets a kill again the next night.
That's a 3:1 loss. Three townies and 1 SK AT BEST! At worst me and PR kill each other because we are both vigs and mafia gets a kill and you have NO new information and then it's a 3:0 loss! Your plan is anti town Andy! VERY ANTI-TOWN!

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tans what do you think of TMH?

[drmyshottyizsik]

I said it like that because tmh said that we should shoot each other and if we were both vigs oh well. Implyinh that he was ok with it.

[drmyshottyizsik]

VOTE: Master Hand

Scummy self-condratiction is scummy self-contradiction

QFT
Finally some one sees where I'm coming from.

[drmyshottyizsik]

vote tmh

I thought I had already done this.

[drmyshottyizsik]

fine.

vote no lynch

[drmyshottyizsik]

It's the modt pro town thing you can do pr

[drmyshottyizsik]

They DIDNT kill each other, obviously.

Vote: drmyshottyizsik

CHRONO.
We told them to shoot each other.
NEITHER did.
THEREFORE, we either have a Vig with wax in his hears. Regardless, they just claimed scum, and deserve what is coming to them.

-The Baker

I shot pr end of story

vote pr

[drmyshottyizsik]

Shotty:
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SHOOT HIM

LAST NIGHT

.
Why didn't you?
And if you felt like shooting your scum suspects, why am I not dead?

More votes on Shotty please.

Ummm.. I DID SHOOT HIM LAST NIGHT!

[drmyshottyizsik]

bah!

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Andrew I told you this on aim! I was going to die no matter what I claimed. I wanted to helping mafia, cookie was obv scum. I guess a doc claim would have been better, but I still more than likely would have died.

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Also I could prove vig by killing... but andy ruined things.

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I had already lost Andrew. I wanted mafia to win over town.

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YA. You were pretty obv scum though :/ not because of you just simply because of the situation.

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I killed aaaah because I hate cheaters...