Open 233: Ninja Mafia Boogaloo - Over!
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AGar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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VOTE: Sotty7VOTE:
For being the easiest name to type on my phone.
For the record, I will have limited posting for between 1 and 3 days. I'm in the hospital for some testing on my brainzzz. I was under the impression that a) I would have internet and b) I would not be allowed to have and use my phone. Both were lies. So I can post (woo blackberry!) but I'm limited (boo old blackberry curve!).Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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VOTE: Sotty7Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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AGar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Where is Troll o.O
I would've posted yesterday, but I forgot to add this to my bookmarks. D'oh!
In other news, I'm the wagon leader. COOL!Someone pesky wrote: 1. Pepsi or Coke? Coke.
2. Favorite Setup? Haven't encountered a favorite yet.
3. How would you describe your meta? The slope of the line x=1
4. Win/loss record? Wiki says 9-7-0-1
5. Maximum number of games you'll play in at one time? I'm in 9 right now.
And our marijuana can't be lit. BOO!
VOTE: gammagooey
For replacing. Obviously a ninja. So sneaky that PZ didn't see the original player pick up the role PM.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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He replaced out of 965. That's where.silverbullet999 wrote:Fineee I'll answer... I was looking and couldn't find the game... though I could have sworn I played with beefster before... Maybe I'm losing my mind as beef didn't show any love to me in his posts.
1. Pepsi or Coke? Pepsi
2. Favorite Setup? Large games maybe?
3. How would you describe your meta? Unpredictable
4. Win/loss record? Below is accurate... I think
5. Maximum number of games you'll play in at one time? maybe 5 at the most... depending on the activity level of each game.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Oh and this:
@PaltryExcuse - No, but I'll play his game anyways.
Oh, and since we're in a setup with the actual creator...
SC, entertain my brain - what do you think about the balance of the setup? I've heard grumblings that we may be in a mafia-heavy setup.
Keeping my eye on you, SB.
In the meantime...
UNVOTE:
VOTE: ShatteredViewpoint
I don't like the tone, or the background, of 45.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Off topic, Papa Zito, the flavor is kinda ironic because I just started watching Lost the other day whilst in the hospital.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Edited and then QFTFT.StrangerCoug wrote:Well,latehappy birthday, Chronopie!
Shattered Viewpoint is making me more and more comfortable with being on this wagon.
And yes, I can handle Advanced Scumhunting 101. I just happen to think that you're a pretentious, self-egregious ass who can't. Setting a trap with an unvote... that's just retarded.
You seem to be flailing at this point, like "OMG GAIZZZZZZ I DIDN'T ACTUALLY FORGETZZZ MY VOTE!!!!1!1!1!!11!ELEVENTYONE!!! IT WAZ A TRAPZ0RZ!!!!!ONE!!!1!1!1!111!!!!!ELEVENTYONE!!!!!"
So in case you guys haven't heard...
SB, I didn't replace Beefster, Thor did. I was in that game from the start, nailing scum's asses to the wall (of course, after I policy lynched an idiot).
Everyone who is just focusing on meta right now deserves a pimp slap upside the head. Especially because half of you are meta-ing people wrong, or at least appearing to.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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I knew two things:Zorblag wrote:@AGar, I was otherwise occupied but it's nice to know you care I guess? Did you know that StrangerCoug suggested the setup when you asked his feeling about balance? I sort of think that if you did you'd know the answer to that question based on what he said in the Open Game suggestion thread.
1) SC had designed the setup. He said he had in the thread, and I had asked a question in the queue which led to his getting paged.
2) Some people (including yourself) had mentioned in the thread that the setup looked as if it favored mafia.
That's all I knew. I was fishing for certain responses in his answer. I did not get them.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Oh god, games are blurring. I just searched through a thread desperately for 45 minutes while looking for a post I made to Troll... X.XSki mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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The irony is killing me...ConfidAnon wrote:
So true.Gammagooey wrote:Hey guys, Assuming that I can count correctly, SV is at L-2. No OMG I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS THE HAMMER OH NOES please. Especially since some people haven't even made a serious/non-RQS post yet.
This is true as well.smashbro wrote:However, going over the votes, it seems like Zajnet has been voting opportunisticly. The first vote is to continue a wagon on AGar. He is the fourth vote on this, saying to wagon the lurker. He then votes Shattered Viewpoint, joining the now popular wagon.
And given SV's new explanation and the speed of the wagon . . .Unvote, Vote: Zajnet
(Yes, I know this is my second bandwagony vote.)
An opportunist voting for another opportunist.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Ugh I keep thinking SC = Serial Clergyman, not StrangerCoug...
Anyways, I don't like SV's reactions thus far, but I'm with PE. Not meriting of a lynch.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: ConfidAnon
I really don't like that vote for an opportunist by an opportunist. If Player X commits action A and is found scummy, Player Y committing action A as well should be found scummy as well.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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@MOD: Votecount would be lovely. Thanks, Zeets.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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I was looking for (for lack of a better term) bedside manner. I got logic and numbers, for the most part. I figured he might just slip into explaining a little too much why town is going to be alright and why the setup is balanced for X and Y reasons. I wasn't expecting too much, but I had just come out of the hospital and I was looking to gain anything to get my footing in the game.Zorblag wrote:@AGar, would you care to share what you were fishing for from StrangerCoug? I take it that his not giving it wasn't that much of a scum tell for you (if any) given that you're vote has stayed put.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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I'm amazed at how many people haven't heard of the scum skimming tell... It was one of the first things I was introduced to, just decided it isn't worthwhile. I've finally decided to delve into it and really look at it since more people are focusing on it as the game progresses.
The theory is thus: scum tend to skim because they don't need to read everything because they're just out to pick at things that they can in turn poke and prod at to force more mistakes and slips out of people. They don't need to know every bit of information, just enough to cause problems and divert attention.
I feel the meta has shifted away from the tell, thus rendering it useless, as I feel more and more scum play a meticulous, planned out game, and the site's town meta is shifting towards pore over every claim or soft-claim, so scum need to read more in order to stay alert and make sure nothing is going to slip by and ruin their plans.
A lot of players in this game are generally more experienced players, and thus more likely to use advanced game tactics and strategies beyond the simple bussing and such, so I think that SV's intended application of the tell is an ill-advised move to try and garner reads off of players who are unlikely to succumb to such a strategy and I think SV is coming from a town angle at this point in time.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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I did no such thing. People have been talking about the tell for about 4 pages now. I had ignored it, feeling it was better reserved for MD. But people keep trying to nail SV for it, and honestly, most people haven't heard of it. I pointed out what I knew about it, why I felt it was null and why I felt that SV was coming from a town angle. He may have a completely different perspective, and he obviously does if he feels it's a legitimate tell. So he still has his own answer to the question.curiouskarmadog wrote:Agar, thanks for answering the question for SV.
@ConfidAnon - That's all you have to say? How about you start putting some effort into the game?Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Because you haven't posted a single thought of your own in this game yet, just opportunistically hopped on bandwagons (one of which, you hopped on because a player was himself being opportunistic) and posted "I agree with X."ConfidAnon wrote:
I'm not that great at this game, I'm trying to get better. Walls of text and deep intellectual arguments - not my forte. What I noticed in the thread was summed up in Sotty7's post. So I agreed with it. How am I not putting "effort" into this game when my thoughts have been summed up by someone else's post?AGar wrote:@ConfidAnon - That's all you have to say? How about you start putting some effort into the game?Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Hmm.. LALurkers isn't my style.
Enigma is definitely leaning scummy. But I much prefer ConfidAnon's hypocrisy.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Oh I'm sorry, you used a "reaction" (crud) and an "explanation and speed of the wagon" (also crud) to justify votes. So much better..ConfidAnon wrote:
. . . you didn't read my post, did you?AGar wrote:Because you haven't posted a single thought of your own in this game yet, just opportunistically hopped on bandwagons (one of which, you hopped on because a player was himself being opportunistic) and posted "I agree with X."
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Define "without contributing."Zorblag wrote:@AGar, how long is it reasonable to let people go in a game without contributing?
I think Lynch-All-Lurkers is horrifically laughable, as it's null. I think players that are actively lurking and posting fluff are a good lynch as long as something less prevalent isn't occurring in terms of scumminess. I still would rather stick to voting players who have made greater tells (fencesitting, latching without any other additional thought, contradictions), than someone who is just lurking along, actively or not. Often times I can find some of them hand-in-hand with someone who's posting fluff, though.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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@PE - I see where you're coming from with Enigma, but I'd like to see more of what he does to figure if he's scummy yet. ConfidAnon's given me plenty already.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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@Troll - Ok, I'm seeing what you're saying here. I'm keeping an eye on Tumescense, although I do believe that that post was simply to avoid a mod-kill.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Playing the newbie card gets no sympathy points from me, as it seems that's what you're getting at.ConfidAnon wrote:
Not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about where I said "I'm not that great at this game, I'm trying to get better. Walls of text and deep intellectual arguments - not my forte. What I noticed in the thread was summed up in Sotty7's post. So I agreed with it. "AGar wrote:Oh I'm sorry, you used a "reaction" (crud) and an "explanation and speed of the wagon" (also crud) to justify votes. So much better..
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I understand why you'd call me scummy, but there's no need to be a douche about it.
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I don't get it.PaltryExcuse wrote:Oh. And AGar, Confid's recent reaction to Enigma has gotten me thinking you may be right. I still feel Enigma is more likely scum though.
If I don't say anything, I'm not contributing.
If I do say something, I'm suspicious.
What is there that I can do without getting voted? (Honest question.)
I'm not answering that, honest question or not.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Links to games where this is true?curiouskarmadog wrote:I have a good gut read on people....spidey sense is saying there is scum there.
I don't trust "gut reads" unless someone has proof that they tend to have a good gut for reading people.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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@CKD - I see your gut, it's ok. I can go with that.
I disagree that Day 1 is completely a gut vote, but that's playstyle differences I guess. I tend to stray from my gut on D1, I'd rather push at players for what I find to be common tells that I've seen (think I've outlined this in the thread already), and then I rely on gut later on in the game.
Sotty, your 218 strikes me as ironic. In your 209, you quote a post from Troll and ask who his biggest suspect of the active players is. In the same post you quoted, no more than two lines down, Troll outlines a list of people he'd be happy with lynching (generally means suspecting that person), one of whom has maintained a decent activity level throughout the game.
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So, you've had some 56 hours to read 10? pages since you last posted, and that's all you've got...Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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First part of 237 is piquing my interest.... Hmmm.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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@Enigma - I'm honestly not following the connection made by SC. By my wholly awful math (I'm a music major, after all), there are 16 possible combinations. Now some could overlap, I'm sure (but I don't want to do the math, my brain will shut down), but there's really no way to know what the setup is until all the PRs die or the end of the game, no?
Sotty's right - setup speculation isn't helping us right now, just distracting us.
There should be more CA wagonners, obv.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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I need to re-read a past game of mine, but I may be ready to also endorse a Troll wagon if no steam gets behind a CA wagon. Also willing to highlight points of the CA wagon, if anyone needs (although his ISO should take all of 5 minutes).Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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ConfidAnon wagon is so much better, SV. You know it, too.Shattered Viewpoint wrote:Not much has changed. Still voting Enigma. Still waiting for everyone else to do the same.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Opportunistic? What?Beefster wrote:sb999's post looks pretty opportunistic to me. And it adds up with tumescence's post... more or less.
HoS: silverbullet999
I'm sorry, but opportunistic usually indicates hopping on a leading wagon and forwarding something that's already got a bit of steam. The ConfidAnon wagon currently consists of me, PaltryExcuse and now Silverbullet. He left a wagon tied for the lead to hop on it, and now the Zajnet wagon is leading, with ConfidAnon, Enigma and Shattered Viewpoint all jockeying behind with 3 votes apiece.
Also, I find it interesting that you feel ConfidAnon is posting content... Can you outline this? I can look at his iso and find opportunistic voting on two wagons, no real content, a lot of "I agree with X" and attempting to play the newbie card when called out on that. Where is this content-producing that I'm missing?Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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I'm not big on the LALurker policy. Not really my thing. My best suggestion is that if it really becomes a problem, we take advantage of the BaM ruleset and if she doesn't post, we don't ask for a prod and let her get modkilled. Why waste a lynch?Beefster wrote:Eh. Opportunistic isn't really the right word. I probably should have just gone with his post seeming odd to me, as well as seeing a possible connection with tumescence. I tend to get too caught up in providing good reasons.
But seriously, why hasn't anyone talked about tumescence?Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Ok, I see that then.Beefster wrote:@AGar: it's not the lurking that makes tumescence scummy. It's the town read that he pulled out of nowhere. It seems like something a noob would do, which is odd considering he's been around since 2008...
PE, I think you're overreacting to Zaj just a bit. He moved his vote to push a wagon forward, which is somewhat scummy, yes, but we do need the votes to move forward, and he'd be getting the same reaction, if not more negatively, if he self-voted.
SC is either misreading or misrepresenting here. And the iso shows me I'm suspicious of SC. Very cleverly masking most of his posts, but most of them have either been theory discussion or provoking players for scumtells that aren't really scumtells. Dodging questions isn't really as scummy as you made it out to be. It can be scummy in context, but in this case, the questions were all but useless and answering them or not really isn't indicative of alignment. Useless RQS questions and the responses are about as useful of a dice random vote and the follow up. Beefster received FoSes twice, once for "modkill fishing" (no sense of humor, obviously) and once for "fallacious behavior" because Beefster didn't believe that a scumtell was a scumtell and had never seen it and he said thus.
His mentioning of there being a ninja and a roleblocker really struck me as odd, because I didn't see the connection between the posts he was quoting and the result, and he has yet to elaborate on this. He is making suspicions based on a certain part of the setup existing, and openly admits to thus.
I'm confident in my vote on ConfidAnon, and plan on sticking it there, but SC is getting major looks right now.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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@SC - Ok, understood. And the misinterpreting/misrepresenting thing was about Zaj asking why he's scummy for his random vote on me, then you mentioning his vote on SV. The claiming thing makes sense now. I was really fucking confused, to be honest.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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I can't say I'm completely displeased with Zajnet. I just hope that people don't completely forget Confid.
Sotty - you've seen the behavior before you say. I'm assuming you mean with Confid as Town. Have you seen Confid play as scum before? Is his behavior different, the same? Radically changing?Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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The fuck?Enigma wrote:I would prefer a 48 hour deadline for the scum quicktopic discussion falling on weekdays over weekends also.
I'm not sure what to make of this other than head-scratching and not feeling confident about it...Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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I'm also very much in favor of an Enigma lynch right now.
That whole post reeks of scum to me. "He announced V/LA, so obviously it's ok to hammer."Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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EBWOTP: And by right now, I mean for tomorrow.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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ConfidAnon wrote:What the crap? Why would they kill someone who everyone said they would vote for for hammering?HOW HAS EVERYONE MISSED THIS!?!?!? WTF!!?!?!?!? FU!%(#@%()@#%*()@#
Seriously. Get votes on ConfidAnon. Right. Now.
If there is one scum group who is vulnerable to make a tell like thus, it is new players.
I endorsed the wagon for reasons outlined yesterday.
Today he comes in, makes this post, and then hops on ANOTHER opportunistic bandwagon with no information (same play as D1).
DON'T BUY THE DAMN NEWB CARD.
VOTE: ConfidAnonSki mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Oh and 359 is gold.
Someone accuses a wagon of having scum on it, and he turns around and calls that person scum.
Fail scum is fail.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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It's a stem-off of the "Well that sucks" tell. Alone, it's useless. But with CA's behavior and the post, it seems to be just one more scumtell.curiouskarmadog wrote:Agar, what is scummy about Confid's post? I was wondering the same thing.
Huh?curiouskarmadog wrote:also, please quit stealing votes wit your use of big lettering from the Chrono wagon...(you have been noted)
Did you read post 351? No, didn't think so.ConfidAnon wrote:
I know, but he ignored my vote on you in his defense.KageLord wrote:@Confid, I think AGar was referring to your vote on Chrono, not your vote on me.
I don't like to get ahead of myself. I've got other suspicions, but I like to play with my hand very close to my chest if I can. I can right now. I'm not tunneling, trust me.ConfidAnon wrote: AGar, who are my scumpartners? You are very dead-set on me being scum, try looking outside the tunnel for answers and post some more reads.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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So.. have you read the thread? The part where he asks what to do to not look scummy and the frustration? THE THINGS THAT NEWBS DO?Beefster wrote:I guess he does have a point about AGar- I wouldn't consider a 2009er to be a newb at this point and AGar may have been using that as an excuse.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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You're proving to be an idiot.Beefster wrote:^ Newb =/= Scum
Newb != Scum
Newb + Newb Scumtell = Potential Scum
Read the thread before you make asinine posts. FFS, I said that it is a telllikely to be used by new players. -_-Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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@CA: You're failing at following a conversation, so don't tell me how to follow one. I'll outline it for you.
I said "This scumtell is only conditional to players who are newbs"
He said "People with 09 joindates aren't newbs."
I said "He is behaving similar to a newb - asking how to appear townie, asking what to do"
He said "Newb != scum"
I said "I know. I never said Newb = scum. I said Newb + Newb scumtell = potential scum"
So there you have the ENTIRE line of thought. Read it and quit trying to misrep my statements, both of you.
I've not ignored your defense, I'm simply not going to reply to it because your defense is an OMGUS driven counter-argument. No sense in trying to debunk it.
I've not ignored your vote on KageLord, I gave my response it's own post.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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369 is your defense, I presume. In which you accuse me of tunneling, molding a tell and argument to fit my needs, ignoring things and try and call me out on having no other suspicions. Sure, you don't say "I'm suspicious of you!" or "Vote: AGar" but you imply it with every word.
And I have commented about the reasoning - it's shitty, laughable and scummy. Read 361. And then read it again. And again and again until you get it through your thick skull that I was addressing your vote you dolt.
FoS is just another way of saying "Wah, I want to bandwagon him but don't want to take a stand and make the first vote."
Die scum, die.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Hmm.
Hypocrisy from CA is great.
"Why aren't you reading my defense? Why aren't you addressing my reason for voting!"
I do. It's nothing he can poke a hole in. He stops talking about it. Completely.
In other news, if CA flips scum, Beefster is likely scum too.
There's even a scumbuddy for you CA. Go back to your guys' QT and freak out like little girls right now, I think PZ will be ok with the daytalking in this scenario.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Because I'm right?ConfidAnon wrote:Ignoring AGar for right now because it's not going to go anywhere.
You asked why I was ignoring your defense. I said it was OMGUS loaded. You claimed it wasn't. I pointed out the reasons it was.
You asked why I ignored your reason for voting. I pointed out that I hadn't, and re-iterated how I felt about it.
Why are you now choosing to ignore me?Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Because we have a 2-for-1 in front of us.curiouskarmadog wrote:mass iso?
why not just read the thread?
also, im pissed the chrono wagon died down, lets just reward lurking.
no one wants to comment on the fact that Chrono has posted 13 times since his "I dont have internet" post here......
ok, lets not call it lurking anymore, when can we call it lying?
I agree it's not exactly cool that Chrono is saying he's got V/LA and posting elsewhere, but I haven't been lurking the rest of the forum, so I've not seen it.
I don't think his lurking is telling though, it's pretty much found that lurking is null of alignment.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Oh and CA - it's not a back-and-forth unless you keep trying to make it one. You failed to address two answers to questions you asked when the response came back wasn't one you wanted to see. It seems very scummy to me.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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UNVOTE:curiouskarmadog wrote:ok, STOP THE WAGON NOW.
jesus christ....guess you guys want to let scum dictate your lynches.
CLAIMING BITCHES
I AM A COP
last night I got a hit on Chrono, he IS SCUM
thats right, so all you asses who blatantly ignored my case AND tried to start another wagon, have been noted...today has provided a ton of information me thinks.
and again I am right..anyone who pushes a lynch bases on "over reaction" is scum...
VOTE: Chronopie
Don't agree at all with his thought process, but you know what, fuck it. What's done is done.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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I get you're frustrated that the lynch on who you know to be scum is frustrating, but I would've personally held my lips tight and worked on gathering potentially more information with more investigations.
It's mostly a playstyle difference, nothing scummy.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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ckd - Not sure. But odds aren't stacked in your favor. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that much out.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Indeed.
beefster - that's L-(-1)Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Pretty sure the lynch happened, guys.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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VOTE: Silverbullet999
Bells are ringing. And not in the christmas carol kind of way.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Hrmmm...
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Beefster
Chrono's iso showed a bit of distancing from SV, and a weak "hey, I'm going to FoS Beefster while I vote no one," and not much else.
Beefster + Confid + SV?Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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SV and drmy could be swapped in positions.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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At this point, I'm willing to get behind a drmy, Confid or Beefster lynch. My strongest reads are on Confid and Beefster, but drmy is acting really suspect right now.
Claiming self-VI is not going to earn you townie brownies, drmy. Start playing the game and getting involved and you might.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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SC - mine have already been stated, but Beefster and Confid. The reasons I have outlined previously, and re-hashing them yet again is going to really frustrate me. Time is money friends.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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I just lol'd hard at the last part of Gammagooey's most recent post.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Really? You must've read the wrong games. Like, you didn't read the ones where I nail scum's ass to the wall and hound them until they're hanging from the highest branch of the tallest tree.Beefster wrote:AGar- he seemed like he was all about pushing a wagon on CA. There can only be ONE cop, and the cop is dead. This can't really be justified as a town behavior. He's not playing as calmly and logically as I've seen him as town.
Don't worry, you'll see soon.
Confid is next.
Be afraid, go back to your QT and quiver in fear.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Equi, we're having tacos, not barbeque.
Beefster should claim, he is going to be a pancake soon. (Chopped steak?)Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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I don't like drmy throwing out "IIoA" specifically. Main reason being, I've never seen him act in a way that appears to be coherent scumhunting. Need more reading about the taco man, but for now:
VOTE: drmyshottyizsikSki mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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