Yes; I hope you think so, too. Anything I say that seems mean isn't personal, though.Nachomamma8 wrote:Are you a nice person, Antihero?
Yes, except for if they look like they're on frightening amounts of steroids.Haylen wrote:Antihero: Do you like...ducks?
Equinox wrote:Because you claimed your vote wasn't random, yet your reasons seem to belie that claim.
It's the first page, what do you expect?Equinox wrote:Further, you're attributing scum tells to something that is quite null. (Even if itisIncognito we're talking about here.)
Fair enough.Equinox wrote:...that, and there's nobody else for me to grill, and I'm bored at the moment.
Equinox wrote:Your reason then appears to be that there's some sort of disconnect between Incognito's "obvscum" reason and how he formatted his vote. I can see someone attacking this in aAntihero wrote:^Not a random vote, by the way.randomvote, but you've stated that your vote wasn't random, leading me to believe this is a serious vote for a not-very-serious reason.The reason is serious. Not strong, but serious. This is due to the fact we're still on page 1...
Sure, there's nothing else to attack on page 1, but attacking for the sake of doing so... ehh.That's how I roll. Now, Incognito wagon would be great.
Now do you see why I wanted a wagon, Incognito? The L-2 situation helped us catch the real scum, Haylen.Antihero wrote:YepIncognito wrote:I already have two votes on me. For clarity, you're saying that you want yet another vote on me to have me at L-1 right now?Post 29, Antihero wrote:That's how I roll. Now, Incognito wagon would be great.
Haylen wrote:Let me guess, Antihero.I'm scum because I self-voted?Please don't condescend.Maybe because I fakeclaimed?NoOr maybe it's because I votehopped onto CSL after finding something genuinely scummy about him?Try againLet's go take a look at that post.
*yawn*
Foolish lesser mortals!
So right off the bat, you pooh-pooh what I said about incog's random vote for no good reason (and even if you thought it was "ridiculous bullcrap," why didn't you say so before?).Haylen wrote:I aint commented cause it's a load of ridiculous bullcrap
Vote CSL
Why the hell would you want someone to claim this early in the game? Especially whilst only at L-2 AND still in the RVS. I call role fishing.
"In all honesty" is a phrase that's good for letting you know that what you're about to read is a complete lie.Haylen wrote:In all honesty, I want to be voted.
Haylen responded well, so UNVOTE: HaylenHaylen wrote:I was busy. I'm currently trying to get ready to move house and do other stuff. I can't comment on everything I see. Anyway, I've done that before, people got pissed.Anti-hero wrote:So right off the bat, you pooh-pooh what I said about incog's random vote for no good reason (and even if you thought it was "ridiculous bullcrap," why didn't you say so before?).OK, understandable; but still, you can see how I'm a little disappointed when someone calls my stuff ridiculous bullcrap, right?
You're saying I'm scum because I explained why I'm voting for someone fully and accurately. Before you criticising me for not mentioning something, now it's the opposite. And in the same post. Hmm...Antihero wrote:The first and last sentences would suggest suspicion of CSL, but that's broken up by the awkward second sentence, which is an overexplanation of the vote.Yes, overexplaining and underexplaining are two things thatcancoexist.
I HONESTLY suggest that you HONESTLY meta me. Your saying that my writing style is what is making me seem scummy to you, metaing me will prove that it's a null-tell.Antihero wrote:Haylen isn't really suspicious of CSL: she's faking it.
While I'm sure you're an excellent writer, I don't have the attention span to sit and read through your previous games. Sorry.As a fantasy writer, my writing style is a little bit more dramatic than most peoples'. (my spelling and grammar has a lot to be desired though
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Try saying "I want to be voted." out loud, it sounds really bland. But when you add phrases such as "In all honestly" a whole new world of language is opened up for you.
I still stand by my assertion that anything preceded by that phrase is usually a lie.
Oh yeah, and just in case nacho didn't see it before:Incognito wrote:I thought Antihero was kinda townish for pushing discussion early on but he gets MAJOR scum points if CSL flips scum for completely ignoring everything CSL was doing.I wouldn't just lynch him automatically Tomorrow if he's still around but look into him closely.Meh, I figured CSL would come under a lot of scrutiny anyway; just thought it would be more fruitful to explore other avenues while pressure was building on CSL.Fair enough.
Incognito wrote:Hm, I had forgotten about the RB or Goon angle too. Even if CSL flips Goon, I still think Haylen is town. This is coming from someone who knows Haylen's meta extremely well.If CSL flips Roleblocker then Haylen is definitely definitely definitely town and gandalf probably is too.I still have the lingering feeling of bussing.
I second the request for Nachomamma to explain his Equinox vote.I third it, and fourth it.
Something about the diction of this sentence (I think it's the phrase "why the hell") makes this "suspicion" look forced to me.Haylen wrote:Vote CSL
Why the hell would you want someone to claim this early in the game? Especially whilst only at L-2 AND still in the RVS. I call role fishing.
Hmmm...Incognito wrote:I once jokingly said that the way to tell the difference between Haylen town and Haylen scum was NOT to look at her but to look at the other people in the game. If she is being attacked by everyone and their mother, she's probably town. If she's coasting, she's probably scum. I can't use that here though because the game is still fresh.
When that fails, I just usually try and read her words to see if I think what she's saying feels genuine. In this case judging by the time stamps of her post and everything, I really feel like her vote was genuine. Especially if she typed everything she wrote in that post in that 2 minute time span that I made my vote on CSL.
Nachomamma8 wrote:I'm torn by grief. And call it paranoia, but Equinox... she's not the same anymore. I mean, she seemed to suspect Antihero really badly, you know? But she attacked him because he was being too aggressive, because he was making conspiracy theories up... Then, she JUMPS off him. Like she's afraid of him catching her scum scent, you know? Why else would she decide to back down so quickly? And even when she backed down it seemed fake... She'd... attack him for stretching reasons, then excuse her attack by saying that she was bored. It seems fake, and I can't explain why. And I don't want to believe Equinox did it because... I don't know, things have been chaotic lately, I guess I can't really seperate my feelings like this is a time like this... But I think I... Ugh. I can't say it. I can't explain it.
I didn't get the impression she suspected me. Am I wrong, Equinox?
I like Antihero's heart, I really do. I'm scared, though. He's aggressive, and intimidating...Could he be overcompensating for guilt he doesn't feel?? But like you said, I'm a xenophobe. This is probably paranoia. Deep down inside... I honestly trust him. I really do. My head says no, my heart says yes. God knows what sense I'm supposed to make of that, right? For now, I follow the heart, as reckless as that may be.(lol)
Gandalf's been hiding from me. He's the only one left... I think he killed her. He's lying to us, I can feel it. He must be the one, he has to be.
But these are my thoughts. If I die this night, camn... I'm sorry. But I have to go on, I just have to. I have to fight for you, for Ojanen. I have to find the killers. And I will take your revenge for you. Even if I'm but a cold corpse on the ground... I will go on. For you. For Oj. And maybe, just maybe, someone who feels the same way I do will take my cause on if I die.
gandalf5166 wrote:Whats the purpose of this vote? I didn't vote because I wasn't yet ready to end the dayAntihero wrote:VOTE: gandalf5166gandalf5166 wrote:OMGUSFFOSM VOTE: Incog
But CSL, why the claim talk? We don't joke about that shit. SRS FACE IS SRS!!!!!!!!!!!, because the fact is, we may have lynched one scum, but we have very little infofine. And Equinox, I can confirm that PRs are not a part of Nacho's meta.and putting your vote on Incog logically follows because...Since nacho didn't actually follow through on this restriction, I think this is a red herring.
gandalf5166 wrote:Okay, after reading Nacho's post again, I am almost certain he's scum. Post-lynch, he lists THREE people he thinks are scum, unless I'm totally misunderstanding his post. Which is possible, considering the weird-ass format. When we only have two lynches, and one scum. And then he discards two on gut. Wtf? If he didn't think they were scum, why'd he post a case on themhe did no such thing? And then doesn't make a case on me, but says I'm scum, likewise on gut. Now, I use gut a lot. Bt why make a case against someone you think is town?where was the case on me?Seems like a good way to promote a lynch while simultaneously distancing yourself from it. Now, if Nacho comes in and magically explains himself, then youAgain, where does he do this?might be the scum. Gut.Who, me?:/ But then, it could also be unconscious OMGUS, so I'm glad I don't have to act on it until later >.>What's unconscious about it?VOTE: NachoOh, and on the PR: It just baffles me. It's not scummy, it's just ridiculous.
PEDIT: The Incog vote was random. It says that it's OMGUS IN THE GODDAMN VOTE.I don't know what the rest of the letters mean. Also, considering there was some discussion going, it was a bit late for a random vote.
Haylen wrote:it's actually pronounced wine-din, but I dunno how to spell it so I used winding instead ^_^ Oh, don't take it personally, loads of people annoy me in games.
gandalf, please try again in your failcase against nacho.Haylen wrote:Ok, this is what's annoying me. It's the orange colour your using in the quotesAntihero wrote:Haylen wrote:it's actually pronounced wine-din, but I dunno how to spell it so I used winding instead ^_^ Oh, don't take it personally, loads of people annoy me in games.
... how am I supposed to not take that personally?
I don't think Haylen is scum; it just doesn't make sense (yeah, I know NK meta kind of sucks, but scum tend to not want to kill people defending them).Is green OK?
I was gonna ask why the nightkill doesn't make any sense then I read the sentence againAlso, I wouldn't kill Incog night one if I was scum anyway, I love playing with him <3 (trying to get him lynched Day One is fine though ^_^ )
