Open 203: C/9 Mafia Wins!

[JacobSavage]

Original Roll String: 1d11

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Vote Max

[JacobSavage]

@Wdjat

This is an awful post. Come play mafia with us, please.

Sorry I am so quiet.

Vote Lowell

More of a personal one against, people that use logic. It makes it hard to follow with people dragging it off the beaten track

[JacobSavage]

Cancel Last post,
I am more inclined, once someone has outlined clear reasons for a lynch, it is often an advantage to use this information, against others, depending on what he turns out to be.

Unvote

[JacobSavage]

True, or a dead one

[JacobSavage]

Jacob gets hilarious town points for the page 4 random vote. WIFOM all you want, but I seriously dont' see scum being that hilarious.

Unfortuatly, that makes me slightly biased towards Lowell, however am slightly suspious of him

Uhm, did you earnestly just put Lowell at L-1, dana? I mean it's OK if you think he's scum but that's a bit drastic. Deadline's only on Saturday - no need to rush things.

Why, you don't have to wait for the deadline before you can lynch?

Jacob Savage-Wins most forgettable player up to this point award.

That that is true

[JacobSavage]

@All:

I am likely to be a

lot more active

in the coming days.

@Wdjat

Which player looks scummiest to you? Why?

I am very suspisous of Dana, attempting to use a piece of information form a cop to perhaps clear a scum-buddy. I could be an innocent mistake from a town, but something tells me that it isn't. I don't know what the something is, so not a lot of help.

Fos Danakillsu

What do you think about this post?

Could be a townie trying to stop himself being lynched, or making a case against Kyle. And he does make a point, in that Kyle is making a lot of case's for and against, and sometimes lynching someone with strong opinions, make a lot of sense for the town as his thoughts if he is Mafia or if he is town can help us, by using his opinions and who joins the wagon, to help the scum-hunt

What about this post?

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:38 am Post subject: 176
Wdjat wrote:
I'll get back to this in a bit.
Okay, it's been a bit.

Wdjat's Top 5 People I Would Like to See Die

5)Lowell: Reacts horribly under pressure. Hasn't done a whole lot. He'd rank higher, but I understand he has a history of lurking.

4) tatetothetot: I don't like the way he buddied up to Max or the way he avoided directly talking about The 1iffi. The latter read like he was a lot more interested in defending himself than in talking about other players.

3) kyle99: Going after an easy target in Lowell. Not keen on his Max vote either. Hasn't done anything of note other than that.

2) The 1iffi: I really don't like the way he's responded to my requests for elaboration. I'm sure this read is colored by personal bias, but I don't like the way he's stating opinions on folks and outright refusing to back them up. Also his back and forth with Gayle over no lynching was really scummy on his part.

1) danakillsu: Bad under pressure both from me and from kunkstar7. This post. OMGUS followed by vigorous defense that it wasn't rather than proving why it was valid. No scumhunting besides a weak case on me and HoSing Gheb for calling him out on that OMGUS.

It is commendable that list your own suspicions and who you want to die. I gives us some very valuable information about yourself and your alliance depending on how your suspects flip. In terms of the best approach for advancing the game, a Dana lynch would be the most preferable, with her being your highest suspect, depending on her flipping and coupled with my own suspicions of her, would make the information from the lynch very valuable to us.

What do you think about Lowell's claim?

Although I think he is acting very scum like, it is not worth lynching a cop on day 1, and especially since the set-up of the game doesn't allow counter-claiming, we can only accept his word and

if we discover that he is not all that he seems, the we lynch.

[JacobSavage]

Agreed

Vote:Kyle99

Vote Count-Sho
Kyle99-Max, danakillsu, Gheb, Kunkstar7, JacobSavage
Lowell-kyle99, danakillsu
danakillsu-Lowell, wdjat
Wdjat-Tatetothetot
Max-the1fifi
Hewitt-Gayle

[JacobSavage]

Totally agree The1fifi, the first step to finding scum, is holding the mod to ransom

[JacobSavage]

@Wdjat

Sorry keep on forgetting that I haven't done that.
1. I can't find a specific quote, it was merely and observation, which may be wrong.
2. I think that what Max was doing was picking a few things up and then repeating them to show what Kyle was doing. It does make sense to lynch him though.
3.The suspions themselves seem alright, although lowell, although suspious should not remain on their, don't want to lynch a cop claim.
And I would not have tate on their either.

Is that good enough

[JacobSavage]

I hate Twilight, and New Moon for that matter.
So what's the weather like?

[JacobSavage]

Depends on who he flips, If it's scum, then we lynch Max.

Fifi,

it's too late,

you already hammered him

I may of totally misread it, but I think that sounds like resentment

[JacobSavage]

Yay!, end of long night!

[JacobSavage]

Right, I would go for Cops claiming with guility.
No claim if no guilty.

Is that alright with everyone else?

[JacobSavage]

All Cops, or just those with guilty results?

[JacobSavage]

Fine, if I am cop, I investigated Gayle last night

[JacobSavage]

It wasn't suspicion, It was a policy lunch on lurkers

[JacobSavage]

It wasn't suspicion, It was a policy lunch on lurkers

[JacobSavage]

I lynched him because he was lurking

[JacobSavage]

No, but he was replaced after the hammer

[JacobSavage]

actually I didn't

[JacobSavage]

Who cares? It's not like anybody except like 3 people are actually playing -_-

True actually, how many votes do we need to lynch? Damn we need 5.

Right, lets see how long it takes to get a lynch

Vote:Thefiff1

[JacobSavage]

@Gayle

Its not a lurker lynch more of a "can we get a lynch on anybody" lynch

because its between him and lowell, as no one else has votes on them not from us three

[JacobSavage]

Might as well, hammer, It should allow us to see whos what, no maf kill means maf are lurkers

[JacobSavage]

Right, in the interests of discussion
I claim Day Vig and Mason

It might be best for all cops to announce their guilites

[JacobSavage]

[quote="Kunk"]nvote;Vote: JacobSavage. Clearly lurkerscum. Also wants to out cops. And jokes about roles that aren't in the game needlessly.[/b]

A bit hypocritical one might state. And anyone not role fishing, just getting cops to announce their guiltys, allowing the game to move on. We have nothing to go on! Nobody is posting.

[JacobSavage]

EBWOP: *facepalm*

Unvote;Vote: JacobSavage. Clearly lurkerscum. Also wants to out cops. And jokes about roles that aren't in the game needlessly.

Plus I joke about roles not in the game, because they are not in the game

[JacobSavage]

Right Good, now we lynch Kunk.
If he is inno, your inno.
If scum, your scum
simples

[JacobSavage]

Mod: Requesting Mass Prod?

[JacobSavage]

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[JacobSavage]

True. For technicalities sake: confirmed on cop's death. So basically, if Lowell is NK'ed and flips cop, then I'm confirmed. Although if I'm NK'ed that doesn't confirm Lowell.

In any case, JacobSavage calling for a lynch on me when it benefits the town much more to leave both me and Lowell alive and let the scum make the mistake of confirming us is horrible. My vote remains.

No calling a lynch, would in my view, serves us in one sense, If Lowell remains alive until the endgame, what can we do, a good Mafia would leave Lowell [If he is Cop] alive long enough to create doubt amongst the town. However if he isn't a cop then we have a problem in the endgame/

[JacobSavage]

So in other words a lynch on me would not help town, as it will then take us down to only 4 to lynch and with 2 scum alive, thus scum could take an easy speed lynch with only two votes!

[JacobSavage]

So in other words a lynch on me would not help town, as it will then take us down to only 4 to lynch and with 2 scum alive, thus scum could take an easy speed lynch with only two votes!

Except that's exactly what you are proposing when you said that I should be lynched to "confirm" Lowell. Really overall that's a poor defense considering that it's a natural action in any game where town is slow in finding scum.

Well the town is slow anyway...

But It is not completely, a lynch on you would help the town in a way, but having said that its a very small benefit to anything.

[JacobSavage]

Explain to me why town would benefit more from me being lynched than you.

If you flip scum then we lynch Lowell, far out I know.

[JacobSavage]

@Gayle
It was a random lynch in that it was random. But I like to call it controlled chaos!

I would suggest scumhunting now?

[JacobSavage]

@Gayle
It was a random lynch in that it was random. But I like to call it controlled chaos!

So you are admitting that it's a random lynch? This makes no sense to me.

It was a controlled random lynch. If you catch my drift

[JacobSavage]

Right, think the time has come (the Walrus said) to talk of many things. I am going to re-read the thread, I think Azelf has got the right idea in starting to scum hunt.

And for some reason the way Kunk sheeped Gayle (or was it the other way around) gets me. I will update later

[JacobSavage]

This game has gone really down hill

[JacobSavage]

Your assumption again. You can't prove that. And if you can't prove it, you can't use it in a case.

That just gets up my nose, I hate it when people use this argument, as it is often because someone has put forward something that they don't like and realise they have a valid point.

For that reason alone,

Unvote, Vote:Danakillsu

(before someone points out that it is OMGUS, it is)

[JacobSavage]

I also thought it was ridiculous that JacobSavage made a random vote in Post 89 on PAGE FOUR.

Oh that was because I forgot that the game had started, so placed a random vote just for the moment

[JacobSavage]

Jacob is pretty much cleared for today.

How am I clear?

danakillsu-5-JacobSavage, Wdjat, Azelf, Lowell; kunkstar7
JacobSavage-1-Gayle
kunkstar7-1-danakillsu

[JacobSavage]

Jacob is pretty much cleared for today.

How am I clear?

While your play is a little goofy, my thoughts on you are town. At the moment no one can seem to build a strong case against you. There are much more viable candidates for today's lynch, such as kunk and dana.

Meh, I suppose. I just dont like anyone clearing anyone else with out reasons

[JacobSavage]

Yep, it was

[JacobSavage]

So... this is a long twilight...

[JacobSavage]

Though, I'll admit, I was kind of shocked to see Lowell still alive on Day Two....

Mafia playing mind games? or more likely kill else where because they know the "Doctors" will be on him.

[JacobSavage]

Oh bye D:

[JacobSavage]

So we can now go to an unoffical night-phase?

Dana was lynched, she was a Vanilla Townie

Send actions to the mod

[JacobSavage]

Oh and I have asked Max to become the mod, is that alright?

[JacobSavage]

I never claimed to be, I was hoping that Dana was telling the truth, given that she had already been hammered. I was only wanting to get this game moving.

[JacobSavage]

Last Night an Alien abducted the Mafia,
Aren't they kind

[JacobSavage]

Why thank you *tips hat*

Now as lowell is not revealing his result, his wording makes me think it is a guility? Or not...
But now I say If Lowell is scum, the scum nk, to make it seem like a doc save?
If he is town, either the Doc went elsewhere and got luckly or the mafia went for Lowell.
Or both mafia didn't send in the kill?

[JacobSavage]

Who did he investigate? I have a feeling it may be me

[JacobSavage]

I would go with mass claim in most set-ups now,especially ones with many power-roles, at this stage, but given that we have no information from cc's

@lobster: Its actually 28.6%

[JacobSavage]

Just for clarification I wasn't asking for a mass claim, but I was refering to lobster

and I was making the point that normally with so many "PRs" a massclaim d3/d4 is sometime good. But in this game it would be an error to do so.

[JacobSavage]

Just for clarification I wasn't asking for a mass claim, but I was refering to lobster

and I was making the point that normally with so many "PRs" a massclaim d3/d4 is sometime good.

[JacobSavage]

COUNTER CLAIMS DONT MEAN ANYTHING IN C/9!

[JacobSavage]

^Agree with last post, Stupid Mass Claim anyone?

[JacobSavage]

And we need to get somewhere. Most games have a few hours max between posts, never more than a few days. But what is this? Two days ish. Not exceptable.

Right I claim: Flying Gnome with Super Laser Sight.

Anyone for some rather recklase bandwagoing?

[JacobSavage]

hewitt (1) Lowell
Wdjat (1) Gheb
Gheb
lobstermania
Lowell (4) Azelf Gayle Lobster Kunk
Gayle
Azelf
JacobSavage -
kunkstar7

[JacobSavage]

No I dont think it will.

But for what its worth, I say its Wdjat and Hewitt

[JacobSavage]

Right Me and Lobster were scum....
<_<
[/wifom]

[JacobSavage]

Vote:Continue

[JacobSavage]

^Second that opion

[JacobSavage]

Yep, That would be a good idea

I would say first we should look closely at Nachomamma and Lowell. Any comments?

[JacobSavage]

/prodded, think more later

[JacobSavage]

Why nacho and Lowell? I see no reasoning from you as to why we should look at them, and for what? Just looks like you want others to build the case for you.

Right this is one of these cases that if I explain, the magic wears off
I think thats the lot

[JacobSavage]

Now to revel the most amazing plan in existence

To put it simply Lowell II and Nachomamma have to be vanilla/scum.
Why? Because given that this is a C/9 game, and add in the change of mods, how would the mod know that Lowell is Cop or Doc?
The time she would know, with 100% certainty is Mafia.

We have 2 scum left. And we have had two replaced players.

Lets say they both are scum, that would mean that Farside would have got 7 town-aligned PMs. From which she could work out that the two replacements are scum. Pretty Simple.

If none of them are scum however, that would mean that Farside had got 5 town-aligned PMs and 2 scum PMs. However what kind of townie are they? Unless Hewitt and Wdjat turn up, we probably will never know, so I would imagine they were just plain townies, as a Doc/Cop would throw up complications if they ask for their previous results.

The most ingenious one is if only one of them is scum. How will know which one is it? Simple, I would imagine, like most games on this site, scum would have a QuickTopic, which would allow them to converse at night. From that she could find out who the other one was.

There is my amazing plan, that would of worked on getting Lowell and Nachomamma to claim. If they claimed a power role, then...
But now we must move on.
btw, I claim Vanilla

Doc's are one of the most useful roles in the game. T_T

[JacobSavage]

@Kunk, so assuming that she does a completely random dice roll for all the possible choices that player could of had in the night.
Doc's randomised save choses person who dies during the night?
Otherwise we end up with a scewed choice.

[JacobSavage]

Why, my scum-buddy, a hammer wasn't going to happen, the game was stalled
Grrr...

Anyway remember what I said

Most likely you will ignore it.

FYI was a Doc, good luck