Open 218: Two-fold C9 - Game Over

[easjo682]

vote: mr chaos[/]b for posting before me

[easjo682]

arg

vote: mr. chaos

[easjo682]

I see a need to change my vote,

vote: inhim

because he's been on this site the longest out of anyone else playing the game (I just lost the game) and is therefore is automatically more scummy, that and he came up with a reason to switch his vote in RVS which as we all know is the single most scummy thing ever

[easjo682]

eas: why do you "feel the need to change your vote"? Also, what's the idea of switching from one random vote to another random vote?

because the voices in the head told me too

What do you think about Oddin's vote?

the voices in my head tell me to refrain from answering this question.

[easjo682]

VOICES says: NO

easjo says: shut up, shut up! ahh nice quite voices now. I don't see any problem with Oddins vote, should I? also no real reason for switching my vote.

[easjo682]

unvote

Yea, what the hell is up with those last 3 posts, man? "Voices in my head" explanation is total bs since it doesn't explain anything about your latest vote.

I was joking around, geeze we're only page three. My vote was RVS, I thought people wold get that when I made a joke about 'voices in my head'.

[easjo682]

As far as I'm concerned, RVS ended on page 2.
I find RQS is only useful when scum are sloppy, i.e. a scum says something later in the game that contradicts one of their RQS answers.

@Easjo: There is nothing more annoying than asking someone a question, hoping for a serious answer, then getting a joke response. "Voices in your head" do not help town. Can you give real answers to

What do you think about Oddin's vote?

and

eas: why do you "feel the need to change your vote"? Also, what's the idea of switching from one random vote to another random vote?

I already answered you and yes it was around the times of my posts of voices in my head that we can out of RVS, so I hardly see the problem with it seeing as I was right on the boarder of posting in what you have decided is RVS.
The answer for Oddins votes is no I'm not particularly worried about it because people can and do change their minds.
as for the 'feel the need' to change my vote as I said it

was

in RVS. Am I not allowed to make one joke at the start of the game?

Easjo:
Voices in your head? Pfft! I hardly think that's valid just outside the RVS.
Self-contradiction. The need to lie is a scum trait, and you suck at lying. Razz
FoS: easjo

yes, see you view on when RVS ended, and my view of when RVS differ, I think it ended slightly later, although the when RVS ends is debatable in all games and therefore I don't see why people are taking such great issue with my obviously joke 'voices in my head' post.

1. How long have you been playing Mafia? (inside and outside MS)
2. How would you describe your meta?
3. What's your win/loss record?
4. Favorite setup?
5. What do you think is the biggest scum tell?
6. How do you make your decisions?

1. as long as I've been on mafiascum
2. I don't really know, I couldn't really describe anyones meta
3. I don't know
4. any so far I haven't really found one that stands out.
5. fake cop claim where you give a guilty verdict on a townie, the town just lynches you the next day if they're not in Lylo
6. what seems right

[easjo682]

How am I contradicting myself? (by the way I'm a she not a he}

[easjo682]

How am I contradicting myself? (by the way I'm a she not a he}

[easjo682]

Xscorpion, if you read the rest of that post, here it is for your convience

I see a need to change my vote,

vote: inhim
because he's been on this site the longest out of anyone else playing the game (I just lost the game) and is therefore is automatically more scummy, that and he came up with a reason to switch his vote in RVS which as we all know is the single most scummy thing ever

you would realize that it is not meant to be a serious vote.
for one I intentionally did exactly what I was accusing Oddin of
for two I didn't see at the time Oddins vote (which was only at post 33 mine at 37) was dead serious, I was of the opinion that he was still RVSing.

[easjo682]

I definitely don't buy that you changed your vote for "no reason," or that you would fail to read the whole thread before you voted.

I thought RVS was still on, I didn't realize the serious votes were serious, thats what it boils down to.

As I believe Mr. sandman pointed out, you have a problem with my RVS (even though it was only a couple hours later )after you decided RVS was over, yet find not problem with beefster who made his RQS post well after you decided RVS was over and after talk had started over my post.

[easjo682]

we've been having severe weather down here recently, don't know when it will end, but its been having an effect on my ability to connect to the intertrons, so I'm not sure how often I'll be able to post for the next couple days.

[easjo682]

Waiting for easjo to tell me who is scum.

Right now I don't know, although I didn't like how you jumped on me when I posted a non serious post, I don't see anything in the action other than trying to pin down scum.

Beefster prolong RVS(with RQS) even more so than my infraction, even though discussion about my infraction has already developed then in his next post points out that he has a problem with me prolonging RVS when he in fact did the same thing even longer after RVS. this comes off as scummy to me.

Beefster

Elscouta jumped on me pretty quickly when I did my joke post, then off again pretty quickly claiming he felt my answer was right, as though he was trying to look like he was scum hunting, yet later on wants to know the case on me.

Slepz only has two posts, RVS post and V/LA which the time has passed.

[easjo682]

argg you're right

Vote:

sorry mod

[easjo682]

man I'm an idiot

Vote:Beefster

W00T finally got there

[easjo682]

I'm not debating whether or not this was planned or not, considering we're talking about easjo.

how does this effect anything, what you mean when you say concidering its me?

People sometimes say "this and that is a scum-tell", but if you stop and think about it for a moment, it doesn't make any sense for scum to do such a thing. From a strictly logical point of view it is somewhat of a WIFOM, but sometimes you just need to use common sense. Because otherwise, every single argument can be called WIFOM, other than mod-granted info.

QFT

[easjo682]

I'm still not really compelled by anything in this game. A lot of crap arguments going around and useless quibbling.

so even though alot of people are finding you suspicious, not suspicious enough to lay down a vote on you, but still to some degree suspicious, you choose to not address them but to make a comment on how there are crap arguements flying around.

unvote

vote: Scott

I'll reread the thread soon then jump right back in the game.

how long does it take to read 7 pages?

Also here are my scum picks in order of most suspecious to least
Scott Brosius
ConfidAnon
Slepz
Beefster

[easjo682]

alright, scott I was over emphasizing when I said 'alot' sorry, but there has been commenting on you in the negative

easjo for having voices in her head

you don't believe what I said about the voices in my head posting?

[easjo682]

This isn't very good posting. First of all, seeing how I trust Korejora assigned roles randomly, there is no connection between longevity on site and role. Second, who are you to decide when RVS starts and ends? Third, you seem to be hypocritical in the fact that you are changing your vote during this apparent RVS.

I thought I'd gone through all this...
It wasn't intended as a serious post, as you say your self, it not up to me, or you for that matter to decide when RVS ends, it can be left open to interprtation, and under my interpretatation it was fine for me to do an RVS style post, that post was me joking around under RVS even if others have different opinions on when RVS ends.
I'm not a moron, I know that roles are completely randomly assigned, have nothing to do with how long you've been on the site, or your sig, or your username, etc, etc...
The post was meant to come off hypocritical, It was meant to seem I was doing exactly what I was accusing inhim of doing.

@beefster, are you going to answer my question a page back?

[easjo682]

This question? I didn't know you were asking me one in the first place.
Whether you say it's a joke or not, I just don't think it's at all valid to write off an odd message like that.

Yes that question, It's not valid to write off an obvious attempt at humour on the second page?

And for the people on the Scott wagon, does he really look more like an active lurker than Elscouta?

Yes because hes still 'here' where as Elscouta is alot less active to the point where its not active lurking, but just lurking or abandonment.
Besides which, if I thought Elscouta's behaviour was active lurking I still can only vote for one person at a time.

Beefster, if you think Elscouta is so suspicious, why don't you vote with me?

because I'd rather vote AGAINST you..

So you are purely not voting for someone because someone else is? why aren't you voting as you wish? shouldn't you just vote in the direction of the person you find scummeist?
I find your reason terrible.

Unvote

vote: Beefster

[easjo682]

unvote

that is all.

What no response to anything I said?

[easjo682]

While beefster looks like obv. scum at this point, the people who are hurriedly jumping to his wagon could easily be on the other faction.

what does it matter if scum are on the wagon of other scum? it still eliminates more scum which is a good thing.

These next two posts were actually one post, but since I didn't want to discourage players from reading them, I split it up into two.

good choice, too many people will automatically tr;dr which in my belief is scummy, because any town aligned person should be more than happy to read any text (instead of being lazy), it gives them more to go off of and the more town has to go off of the better.

agree with your read on beefster, hence my vote on beefster
he just got ten times worse with his ISO 25 post, how can he ignore what people are saying about him, what they are asking him? it comes off as scum giving up.

the inhim read, I don't find it odd for people to have town reads on players that have attacked yourself, as sometimes in being attacked you can gain different insight from those in the game not being attacked, if that makes sense?

for elscouta/karma i find that elscota wasn't contributory enough for me to count in the read of that slot instead my judgement is going to be off karmas posting

xscorpion i share feelings with you about, though this may stem from the fact that he's contributing and therefore more noticable than people who contribute less.

for mr. chaos why are you summing up another player in your summary of mr. chaos, I find it confusing

And a supplemental PBP analysis on Mr. Chaos:....

I find mr chaos scummy, but also find you scummy it is my opinion that you are both on differet scum teams, hence why you can forge an argument on him and appear townie, because it wouldn't matter to you if the scum on another team died.

also beefster, why haven't you explained to us you ISO 25 post, there has been enough querrying about it, that usually means it is best to explain things

[easjo682]

I've seen Beefster as scum twice, and he's never AtE'd like this before. I don't know what to make of it. Chaos is still scum.

meta is never a good thing to go off of, its pretty inaccurate.

with that said, FoS: Scott Brosius

does the fact the you didn't switch your vote mean that you still find mr. chaos a more suspicious subject?

[easjo682]

I agree I'm with the chaos is scummy thing too, not laying down a vote yet.