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That's unfortunate."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Just so we're clear, I hate it when you guys do this but I don't expect it to change.
I was surprised at this. You thought I came off badly in our exchange? I assumed you realised how difficult it is to answer those questions without looking scummy, so I thought the best strategy was to run through several layers of town thought (which would be harder for me to do as scum.)Vi wrote:
Fixed?crywolf20084 46 wrote:WII
Vote: Xdaamno(L-5)
A better-than-random vote."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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(Yeah, I realised you were scumhunting. I don't think that's a scum tell, I've played a couple of mafia games before.)"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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The quicklynch thing.VP Baltar wrote:
Who is this referring to specifically and what exactly are they doing that you hate?Xdaamno wrote:I hate it when you guys do this but I don't expect it to change."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Probably not, of course. It still stresses me out though.VP Baltar wrote:
Do you think people would actually quick lynch you because you're a scumchatter and not the first to confirm?Xdaamno wrote:
The quicklynch thing.VP Baltar wrote:
Who is this referring to specifically and what exactly are they doing that you hate?Xdaamno wrote:I hate it when you guys do this but I don't expect it to change.
What? Are you misunderstanding me on purpose? I thought that was pretty clear. It's harder for scum to think like a town player would than a town player, and noticeably so when they're both thinking things through a few 'layers' of thought.Vi wrote:
Wait, so it's more difficult for scum to respond to aXdaamno 60 wrote:I assumed you realised how difficult it is to answer those questions without looking scummy, so I thought the best strategy was to run through several layers of town thought (which would be harder for me to do as scum.)generic and mostly reasonlesslynch threat? Never mind that you just said--
I don't get this either. If you want to read into that, if anything, I was criticizing your scum hunting, not calling you scum. Yes, of course, I'm scumhunting you too at the same time.Vi wrote:Xd 61 wrote:I've played a couple of mafia games before.
*reads between the lines*Xd 61 wrote:(Yeah, I realised you were scumhunting. I don't think that's a scum tell, I've played a couple of mafia games before.)
So am I more likely Town, or scum?~
tl;dr Yes, my vote is serious."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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I can see how you don't see why it takes a town player to go through those layers of thought - I wouldn't assume that unless I'd actually been through the process myself - but not realising that your last sentence there is ridiculous means I want to stop having this argument.Vi wrote:
You are clear. You said you had to artificially project yourself through several layers of a Town mindset in order to determine aXdaamno 67 wrote:What? Are you misunderstanding me on purpose? I thought that was pretty clear. It's harder for scum to think like a town player would than a town player, and noticeably so when they're both thinking things through a few 'layers' of thought.correctresponse.
At this stage in the game, there is effectively nothing stopping you from responding in the same way as Town or scum except sheer psychological pressure, which I would not expect to come into play considering you have "played a few games before".
In plain English, you're making excuses for yourself in attempting to look Town.
(addendum: for transparency, it's actually mostly because I'm worried that stupid people might start agreeing with you )"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Oh, I didn't realise that was a question. Most likely town. Are you trying to test my ability to take statistics into account? If you didn't realise that's a silly question otherwise, then once again I don't want to argue with you like this. That is, with logic."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Some things I think we should both consider Vi:
- Ending dumb arguments usually helps the town
- Not reminding yourself often that not liking someone else's behaviour when arguing hasn't got anything to do with how scummy they are hurts the town"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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OK, as you know, I think you're being illogical... just so people know, I didn't have anyone in mind when I said "stupid people"."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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You know this is my meta JD >: /"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Buurgh. I wish I could edit that."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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It's also a stretch to say that your behaviour as town happens to be a good strategy for scum.JDodge wrote:
Occam's Razor - the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. Try again.Hyl wrote:Your question-filled posts, coupled with little follow up to said questions, are scummy. Gives off a strong "trying to look helpful & active" vibe. I also noticed that you didn't give much opinion on the wagon, yet you're asking everyone to comment on it."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Vi's pushing it here. It sounds plausable that your mini-fallacies are because you're biased.
Vote: Vi"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Obviously, I missed it...
I can't remember much about how I played in that game. I'm probably thinking things through more, but the dominating feeling that stopped me playing mafia - people never being willing, for one reason or another, to accept my logic - is still here.VP Baltar wrote:Xdaamno, how would you compare your play here to that of Amnesiac Mafia?"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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What, about me? That's usually because I'm much more careful about saying anything wrong and more willing to put myself in other people's shoes. Less posts end up passing the litmus test.Vi wrote:I will concede that votes in my direction get my attention, and that particular vote combined with the rest of the post seemed too coincidental to pass up mentioning.
However, as I mentioned in the EBWOP, Otto - like you - has gingerly stepped around saying anything at all."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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That's why I don't use it for finding scum. Durrrrr.Vi wrote:
I used to play like that. It's great for surviving, but beyond terrible for finding scum. (So it worked to great effect when I was scum in Tofu Mafia.)Xdaamno 119 wrote:
What, about me? That's usually because I'm much more careful about saying anything wrong and more willing to put myself in other people's shoes. Less posts end up passing the litmus test.Vi wrote:I will concede that votes in my direction get my attention, and that particular vote combined with the rest of the post seemed too coincidental to pass up mentioning.
However, as I mentioned in the EBWOP, Otto - like you - has gingerly stepped around saying anything at all.
You mean to tell me there's nothing you have to say about anyone except me, and that in my response to Otto I went from "as likely as anyone to be Town" to "most likely to be scum"?
I'm not going to manufacture comments for your benefit, because it's not nessecary at this stage. I'm going to post about what interests me and make a point to go out of my way to sometimes ask probing questions, as I have been doing. This isn't optimal play - I'm just being transparent."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Or should I say FOR THE TOWN'S BENEFIT HUH"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Stop trolling.Vi wrote:
Promising suboptimal play and lying in the same sentence doesn't become you.Xdaamno 122 wrote:This isn't optimal play - I'm just being transparent."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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I'm not scummy-acting. Your scumdars are calibrated to a different meta"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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I want to talk about this. I agree that I playcrywolf20084 wrote:
Yeah i am pretty happy with my vote on Daamno. through what i know of him in scumchat games, he doesn't play so scattered brained and scummy ever. And IMO, and i am pretty sure in others too, he IS playing very scattered brained.Cat wrote:crywolf: You've been on the Xdaamno wagon even before Vi was, are you sure of your vote with the new findings?
Definitely happy with my vote.betteron scumchat, but... this is just how I am here. Certainly moreso as town than as scum, if you read any of the games I've played in the last year or so."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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VP, what's your opinion on this post? I think it's obvtown.Otto Ulbreicht wrote:Sorry about missing out on the first couple of pages, time to start posting:
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Easiest name to type, plus I feel Xdaamno needs some support, not more votes.
I see that the majority of you all seem to know each other quite well. As such i am hoping that you don't all have pre-game prejudiced when playing. Maybe xdaamno is scum looking at his posts where he's afraid to come across as scummy, but town can have that worry too. Could maybe those of you who know him best explain whether or not this is typical behaviour for him? Only when i see more posts or good explanations from other players will i consider changing my vote. Please jdodge, if you will, can you tell me what good we would get out of xdaamno's lynch, as in obvscum lynch, iioa lynch, etc?
/pre-emptive preview edit: stop bothering me"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Even though I do - though not that strongly - the point of that post was quite obviously to learn more about VP's character, which is unclear to me at this point. Cheers for shitting on that."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Not a great deal of time, so I'll just address mine:
I used bias in the sense that Vi could be looking to attack me as a strategy rather than out of honesty. I didn't find it particularly hard to believe that this wasn't the case, but it was plausable and so worth a vote at this point. I also wanted to see if he would back off when I pushed back.VP Baltar wrote:
Why do you think she'd be biased? I don't see anything from her posts that suggest that, so please elaborate on this.Xdaamno wrote:Vi's pushing it here. It sounds plausable that your mini-fallacies are because you're biased.
I think you're looking for a reason behind that post that wasn't there. I was trying to be transparent.VP Baltar wrote:
Actually, I think I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt a great deal. These kind of pity party posts don't make me want to continue, however.Xdaamno wrote:I can't remember much about how I played in that game. I'm probably thinking things through more, but the dominating feeling that stopped me playing mafia - people never being willing, for one reason or another, to accept my logic - is still here.
Yes, the vote was partly because he was voting me - as I said, I wanted to see if he would abate. But that's certainly nothing to do with the literal definition of OMGUS - do you stand by this?VP Baltar wrote:
I haven't seen probing questions from you at all, actually. I don't even know who your suspects are really other than a pretty obvious OMGUS on Vi.Xdaamno wrote:I'm not going to manufacture comments for your benefit, because it's not nessecary at this stage. I'm going to post about what interests me and make a point to go out of my way to sometimes ask probing questions, as I have been doing.
Kay, I'll do this later.VP Baltar wrote:
links please.Xdaamno wrote:I want to talk about this. I agree that I play better on scumchat, but... this is just how I am here. Certainly moreso as town than as scum, if you read any of the games I've played in the last year or so."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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I don't know if someone could find my games via the mafiascum logs - I haven't played many lately - the only one in 2008/2009 I could find was this one:
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Where I certainly remember having the same feeling, although I avoided being lynched for quite a while with a gambit."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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This is something I expect to be saying a lot this game, and it's "Read my lips: I don't know". Maybe I could give you a guess if you pushed me, but I don't think it's a good idea with such low certainty.VP wrote:Depends if I believe your motive. Jury's out at the moment. This might help me decide though: do you think your wagon is scum or town driven? If the former, who do you think is most likely to be scum on it?"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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EBWOP for post 164: meant to say that I found that through google searching"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Uhm, you brought it up.crywolf20084 wrote:Why are you pushing your meta?
Why are you asking us to go look through past games.
Sorry but I'm one who thinks this game is the one that should matter. not your history
Cay wrote:Yeah i am pretty happy with my vote on Daamno. through what i know of him in scumchat games, he doesn't play so scattered brained and scummy ever. And IMO, and i am pretty sure in others too, he IS playing very scattered brained.
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Oh, I did.
That was addressed only to JD, because it was something we once had a talk about in scumchat. I agree that it's not very useful to the rest of you.Xdaamno wrote:You know this is my meta JD >: /"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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This exaggerates how I feel about this - my annoyance is nothing more than irrational.DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:This is an example of Xdaamno when crumbling under pressure, which isn't really there."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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EBWOP: And not really big anyway, I meant to say. I'll try and be a bit more relevant to the game from now on."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Yeah. I usually don't go back and correct things, lol. What has that got to do with anything?Otto Ulbreicht wrote:Are you always this bad with linguistics Xdaamno? You're tripping up worse than a drunken cripple. It's making me start to wonder about you."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Those replies went worse and worse. Otto deserves an extra vote.
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What are you gonna do, cheat and find out my role?saberwolf wrote:
Prove it, don't just post and hope people believe you.Xdaamno wrote:Those replies went worse and worse. Otto deserves an extra vote.
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I didn't realise your account wasn't in this game. That post was because:saberwolf wrote:
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What are you gonna do, cheat and find out my role?saberwolf wrote:
Prove it, don't just post and hope people believe you.Xdaamno wrote:Those replies went worse and worse. Otto deserves an extra vote.
Vote: Otto
I'm asking you to show HOW they are worse and worse, not just say they are.
- I heard you were a cheater
- It sounded like you were double accounting here
- Your blatant attempts to make me look scummy for not bothering to give a reason were irritating. I'll explain them if you want, but I thought they were pretty obvious. Before I do, I want to ask: do you agree?"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Now that I've internalized that you're the same account, I can't be bothered to explain. It's not like you're going to agree with me anyway, and we both have better things to do."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Uncool, man."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Enjoying JD's posts. I'm a little suspiscious because flooding the town with information is a scum tactic that iirc JD knows about, however. If this is the case some of his posts should probably seem manufactured, but I suppose any slip-ups in such a large amount of analysis might be expected...
Another thought: saberwolf's dumb claim and overreaction to the wagon seem suspisciously like him trying to cause havoc before he is replaced. With the breadcrumb, he could always have claimed later - I don't think he was worried about that going to waste because he said "I was going to claim soon anyway" (which is also scummy now I think about it) and he could have probably told his replacement about it in any case.
And I want to restrain myself, but I just have to respond to this:
Actually, performing actions that are plausable scum movesJDodge wrote:
The moonmen could be altering his brain waves using their metaphysical machines. Don't forget that!Xdaamno wrote:I used bias in the sense thatVi could be looking to attack me as a strategy rather than out of honesty. I didn't find it particularly hard to believe that this wasn't the case, but it was plausable and so worth a vote at this point. I also wanted to see if he would back off when I pushed back.doesincrease the chance of being scum. The fact that that possibility is being extended by a greater-than-you-would-expect amount is incriminating."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Yeah. Why?"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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I like my vote staying on Poro right now, mostly to remind me to suspect him when he gets back. The Howie wagon looks promising to me, but I don't know that much about him at this moment so I'm gonna wait and watch it for a bit."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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I forgot about this.Vi wrote:
you have your vote on a claimed cop d1Xdaamno 310 wrote:I like my vote staying on Poro right now, mostly to remind me to suspect him when he gets back. The Howie wagon looks promising to me, but I don't know that much about him at this moment so I'm gonna wait and watch it for a bit.
with a fairly small chance of a doctor existing to protect said cop
seriously
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Uhh, sorry. I didn't mean to be. I just wanted to make a point that I didn't feel comfortable immediately dropping that topic. Also VP I suppose you are saying that I might be pretending to forget the cop claim as a gambit (unless you think scum is more likely to forget that fact than town,) which is similar to what tajo is talking about, but I do advocate the position that I basically suck at mafia. Two such gambits in a row would be a bit too creative, don't you think?Vi wrote:
Are you always this obtuse?Xd 315 wrote:Unvote,as is customary[to be done for people who claim Cop]"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Out of interest, what was your point with that post then? It otherwise just seems like you're trying to defame me.VP Baltar wrote:
I never called you scum, nor did I say you were pulling a gambit. Now vote Howard.Xdaamno wrote:Also VP I suppose you are saying that I might be pretending to forget the cop claim as a gambit (unless you think scum is more likely to forget that fact than town,) which is similar to what tajo is talking about, but I do advocate the position that I basically suck at mafia. Two such gambits in a row would be a bit too creative, don't you think?
(also I'd like to throw in a pre-empt for you saying 'Now vote Howard' at the end of your next post - I'll think about it, but I'm busy now.)"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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After a few moment's thought, I think I would be happy to lynch HR today.
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Izzy made me realise that the flip will tell us quite a bit about what is going on here, and, yeah, the game is stalling a bit."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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VP looks like he's probably trying to do the best thing for the town here (i.e. lynching a suspiscious player and moving the game along,) but the possibility of him just leading the town is one I want to investigate if Izzy flips town. This wagon developed fairly quickly so I think it'll be easy to analyse tommorow - also, in my mind, at least, up until this point, the opinions of a few central players on this wagon have been recorded. Finally, for the purposes of transparency, the vote was perhaps 20% or so procrastination until tommorow when I think things will be clearer to me.Vi wrote:
Do tell.Xdaamno 333 wrote:Izzy made me realise that the flip will tell us quite a bit about what is going on here"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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I said VP was probably helping the town, and therefore probably not leading the town. This is both from my read on VP and my read on HR. The action that I chose to do - support a HR lynch - is not primarily to 'counter' VP, but it happens to lessen the blow if he is scum: not only do I think that HR has a good chance of being scum, but if he isn't then I have somebody else to investigate.Vi wrote:
1) So... what are you doing toXdaamno 339 wrote:but the possibility of him just leading the town is one I want to investigate if Izzy flips town.counterVP Baltar's attempts to lead the Town, or otherwise show that said Town-leading isnotthe best thing a Townie could do right now?
2) When do you expect to see Izzy flip Town?
And, thanks for catching that, though I resent the subtle implication of a freudian slip"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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the antecedant here is VP, just to remove ambiguityXdaamno wrote:happens to lessen the blow if he is scum"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Before I answer, and I hate to be 'obtuse' again, but it feels like I'm mostly just correcting your mistakes about understanding my posts here when I was perfectly clear.
I don't know. All - even if there is only 1 - of the trains of thought that I have followed through to the point of deciding whether to lynch, or not lynch someone, have not turned up 'not lynch'. I'm not going to decide here for you now because I'm lazy, and there might some other small effect of the process being less organic that I'm not bothering to think about.Vi wrote:Ignoring this current investigation into VP Baltar's motives, do you think anyone is scum enough to vote them?
to clear up ambiguity again: Vi meant that I said HR was likely to be scum.Vi wrote:Are you suggesting that VP Baltar is primarily responsible for the HR wagon, even though you just said that he has a good chance of being scum? (Clearlyif HR flips Town, you shouldn't be held responsible for his lynch in spite of agreeing with VP.~)
Yes, he is pushing this wagon in a way that seems both consistent with scum and town strategy to me. To this extent, HR flipping town isn't any more of a scum tell on VP that it would otherwise be - but, as I said, that would be the point where I would want to start investigating VP further. If you feel that I have acted in a similar fashion to VP on this wagon, then, given that, if I were you, I would also start to investigate me if HR flipped town - but I think I'm following this wagon more than pushing it. Not that you shouldn't draw other conclusions from that different fact, however.
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also, I retract that first short paragraph, on account of what I said after it actually being confusing, and that it was obtuse."This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Elephant in the room: What makes a scum player more likely to not read that than a town player?Cat wrote:I'm having difficulties with MS right now, so I don't know if this post will make it or not.
Yes, I do like my vote on Xdaamno even more now with his cop vote. I mean, with all the saberwolf shenanigans, he would have at least gone through and read that. As for other scummy people, I would say saberwolf/Porochaz if the breadcrumb wasn't so intact, but the only other small qualm I have is Hyl's lurking.Vi wrote:@Cat: Do you still like your vote for Xdaamno?
Do you think there is anyone else who is scummy in this game?"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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I'm reserving comment on the JD wagon.
I am pushing. I think outright saying that I support your lynch is pretty clearly pushing. I actually said VP was "pushing in a way that is consistent with town and scum" - if you want to give that a name then it would be imprecise, but I'd go with 'instigating'.HowardRoark wrote:@Xdaamno: Why are you following (not pushing) the wagon on me instead of pushing for my lynch or someone else?"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Now that I think it's been made so obvious, VP, I think you'd do better for the possible town players that don't realise and just come out and say you're just pressuring JD. If that's the case, of course.
If I wasn't me, that'd be my position too.Porochaz wrote:Xdaamo, Cayke, Cat, Howard.
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Yeah, fair enough:
myself - the way I whine on about logical inconsistencies is a plausable scum play
Cay - vibes, general fuelling of fires
Cat - piqued my interest earlier when they voted me illogically, because it felt like they were looking for a reason to vote someone
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It's pretty obvious to me that you're being pedantic for the sake of defending yourselfHowardRoark wrote:
That's why I asked. It looks to me more like hoping onto a popular wagon (that isn't yours).Xdaamno (345) wrote:I think I'm following this wagon more than pushing it.somehow, or you wouldn't have gone down that completely ridiculous line of thought. "You joined this wagon after other players, so you're scum!/the wagon is invalid!""This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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HR lynch. I'm pushing this shit. His reaction to the wagon didn't make me feel any better (or worse, if you will.)"This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Like I said, that's a pedantic argument - you're just taking the words from my posts in different contexts without appreciating the meaning. I haven't changed what I said I'm doing much, so here, I'll spell it out:HowardRoark wrote:@Xdaamno: My argument was not "You joined this wagon after other players, so you're scum!/the wagon is invalid!" My point was that your statements contradicted. Pushing -> Following -> Pushing.
- I'm following the wagon in the sense that I was not the first person to join it, and that it was VP who gave me the idea to be in my current position of pushing it.
- I'm pushing the wagon in the sense that I'm advocating other players should join it - I meant to make this outright when I said "I'm pushing this shit.""This should be an absolute car crash, but let's try it." - CDB
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Poro, I feel for you man, but that's the first time I've seen the 'mentally unstable' defence used in a game of mafia, lol.
What we really need is for Hyl/Cat/Qooq/Izzy to weigh in here.
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VP, I think you need to find a better way to put this JD case into words, or move on for the time being. People aren't agreeing with you based on what you've said. We could be spending this time on a HR lynch.
seriously, i dont feel the jdodge case.populartajo wrote:
lol, is this some sort of subtle attack?Vi wrote:
He already tried that excuse in the game that I linked. So did his scumpartner.populartajo 421 wrote:Why not assume boredom?
If VP Baltar didn't satisfactorily answer your question, I'm not sure how I can.tajo 421 wrote:vi, can I get an example of any scummy post? baltar, same question.
tubby, plz send me a pm when this game has at least more than half players posting in thread. tia.[/quote]
I agree, but I don't think 'not posting' is a good counter-strategy.
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