Open 184: Friends and Enemies Mafia (Over)
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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I agree with farside and I'm going to take the Masons day by day. Right now the stats really mean nothing to me.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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*Sighs* I don't random vote. Only done it once, never doing it again.saberwolf wrote:@ Hewitt: why haven't you voted yet?FoS: HewittShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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Really because my history of not voting shows that it helps spark conversation and gauge reactions of other players very well. Basically you're saying players who don't random vote are scummy, and that's just silly.saberwolf wrote:Thats very anti-town of you really. The RVS is supposed to help us move things along by picking things up and seeing BWs form and etc etc.
By not voting you are attempting to avoid responsibility and it just makes me want to vote for you cause it seems scummy.
If you refuse to vote I shall have to vote for you.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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It's clearly not scummy at all and it helps give me and everybody else an early read on fellow players like yourself. I decide to vote when I want voted player to be lynched.saberwolf wrote:they are scummy, because they're trying to avoid responsibility for votes they would otherwise have to place. So when DO you decide to vote?ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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This is like the fakest vote I've ever seen on this site.DarkLightA wrote:It would seem like the last sentence could be used to dampen the serverity of the vote.
Unvote
Vote: Farside
Not OMGUS:
First you supported me, then suddenly about 2-3 people go against me, and you find a chance to change before everyone goes against you for the support you gave (posts a few posts back show suspicion coming onto you because of this). So you find a chance to vote me first, making it seem like you'd be the starter of it,without really being so. This seems REALLY scummy to me. Don't know about you guys.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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Konowa's naturally an easy target for scum from my own experiences playing with him.saberwolf wrote:Konowa has a unique meta when it comes to me.
Konowa as town has always voted for me and finds some excuse to vote for me in the RVS.
He also likes to vote without real reason, one of his town tells. If he was scum, he'd have built up a better case before he attacked me.
Where is this illogical leap in logic coming from? I totally do not see the connection at all.kikuchiyo wrote:You failed to give any logical reasoning behind the two. I think Saber is scummier. Therefore you have tied yourself to him a slight bit. 106 is also interesting...
Could've easily been answered if you'd just ISO'd me, completely unnecessary question.kikuchiyo wrote:Also, Where is Hewitt's vote? I don't remember him being on the DLA wagon.
DLA can you give any better reasoning for that vote in post 74? Because that was honestly God awful.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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I don't care whether you thought it was a good tactic or not it was still a shitty reasoning.DarkLightA wrote:
I think it'd seem like a good tactic..hewitt wrote:DLA can you give any better reasoning for that vote in post 74? Because that was honestly God awful.
Just because something is fake doesn't mean it's not subjective. Just because I feel like that vote was fake doesn't mean I'm just going to vote for a stupid townie. When I feel like I've caught scum I'm going to vote, not just vote for the first player I think has done something stupid. Because many stupid townies make mistakes.kikuchiyo wrote:Please explain what is "fake" about the vote. If it is the "fakest" vote you have ever seen, please explain why it has not warranted your vote.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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For the record though that would be me who got us out of the RVS stage not saber.farside22 wrote:What is saber attack on Hewit laughable? Don't you think it's better to have some discusion to get us off the RVS stage?
This vote was so stupid and the post by kiku was also.CSL wrote:kikuchiyo wrote:Maybe he's gay. (no offense.)Vote: kiku
That post is sooooooooooooo stupid. I'm not gay.
unvote
Basically right now this game sucks and is absolutely going nowhere and I honestly don't even know what else to comment on. Which is...you know...always great...ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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Thanks yo I mean I'm really not sure what else to say lol.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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Ugh yeah I know. I was hoping someone would vehemently disagree so we can start conversation somehow but apparently that didn't work.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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Anything, I really don't care honestly as long as it starts discussion SOMEHOW.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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I'm really not all that opposed to a Yarmond lynch considering we've got nothing else going on for us. Lurker lynches just always kind of bother me because we are probably going to hit town and that's just never really a good thing obviously.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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I just said I'm fine with a Yarmond lynch but at the same time there's that nagging in the back of my head like damn...we're probably not going to hit scum here. And of course that would bother me.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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I think the best idea for today would be to lynch a player who is here yet hasn't shown any signs of being willing to contribute anything to the game.
Vote: Albert B. Rampage
He's done absolutely nothing so far this game but ask pointless questions to other players and has not provided any original thoughts to the game. He doesn't even respond to the answers of the pointless questions that he's asking. Reading all the players in ISO I think it's pretty clear that ABR has been and most likely will be the most useless player in this game.
If the vote's on Yarmond as a policy lynch for not contributing anything then I'm going to vote for the even worse offender, the player who's here and posting and still not contributing.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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Keep in mind also CSL could have the same offense attributed to him as well. Although he's only been in the game for three days, so it's a tiny bit more excusable.
And Shotty to the Body is just as bad as ABR when it comes to posting without any true content. A lynch on either one of them is perfectly acceptable and I would back either one.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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Yes, GREAT idea ABR, let's vote the player who's going to be replaced anyway instead of the player who actually is in the game yet actively chooses not to contribute anything original, thought-provoking, or helpful. Nice OMGUS though, my vote is reinforced by those posts. Meta is not an excuse, clearly.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Unvote, vote Saber
You're just voting whoever ppl tell you to.
FOS: hewitt
Yarmond is even more useless yet you don't vote him.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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That was cute.Albert B. Rampage wrote:You haven't done shit all game. This is you:
"OK LETS CREATE DISCUSSION GUYS."
"LETS SPARK DISCUSSION."
"YEP YEP, AS LONG AS WE FIND A PLAN THAT MAKES DISCUSSION."
Bla bla bla.......some theory about fake voting......in other words, NOTHING. You have contributed NOTHING.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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Your anger amuses me ABR. How about instead of spewing middle school whiny fits you go back and actually build a competent case on me instead of huffing and puffing like a six year old who broke his crayon.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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Well I'm glad you've switched from tantrum throwing mode to zwetschenwasser mode.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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Uh, I don't know why you would ever mistake moving into zwetschenwasser mode as meaning you're posting content. But congrats you've now moved back into tantrum throwing mode.Albert B. Rampage wrote:So why are you voting for me, now that I'm posting content? OMGUS? But, isn't that like, OMGUSing OMGUS?
FYI- I voted you first, and made the case against you first. And what did you do in return? You OMGUSed both myself and saber, slung crap left and right, and are now making nonsensical posts.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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1. Go quote where you've provided original thought because you have not.
2. You did not respond to any of the questions you've asked in a manner that's progressive for the game.
3. You are not even close to the most useful player in the game and in fact, are the most useless (hence, why I'm voting you).
4. You are contributing.
This is all fact ABR. This is all easily seeable and available for everybody to see.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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Attempting to goad me into snapping at you isn't going to work ABR, get a new strategy and go quote where you've posted original thought.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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I'll pretend like that made sense and is applicable to anything that's been posted so far. Fairly positive I've never shown so much of a hint of caring about what the rest of the town thinks of me. Considering I was deliberately making outlandish statements in order to get the town to start talking. Clearly, an overcompensating mafioso wouldn't give that much of a shit and would let the town run away with the easy target Yarmond lynch.
And you still are apparently unable to provide any examples of you posting original content. I'm shocked. Anyways, I'm going tanning and since you're probably going to respond in two seconds hopefully we'll get some others chiming in here before I get back so this doesn't turn into an obnoxious one on one that floods the thread with useless jabber for everyone else to muck through.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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I really don't care about the little word games. You've still not added anything in your defense and still haven't provided any examples of providing original thought to this game. Your knack for avoidance is astounding.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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This is kind of a funny little misrepresentation here. When did I ever state that I've been a top contributor?CSL wrote:hewitt, I'm going to have to agree with ABR on this one. You have not contributed at all. I know I haven't contributed much either, but that's because I don't see anything that sets off my scumdar, EXCEPT this.ShowRECORD
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hewitt Mafia Scum
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It's funny that all the people I accused of not contributing are now voting me. Funny how that works. Anyways the real contributors to this game so far have been Kiku and farside. Reading ABR in ISO it's CLEAR that he hasn't even attempted to provide anything helpful to this game and at times is almost detrimental.
Albert B. Rampage wrote:
mwahahahasaberwolf wrote:so now that you've tipped him off once he reads this, it means nothing.
vote saberAlbert B. Rampage wrote:You got that right!Albert B. Rampage wrote:
lol really?kikuchiyo wrote:I didn't appreciate being killed. I found it rude and uncalled for.Albert B. Rampage wrote:shotty, do you like to bandwagon or are you more of a conservative player?
farside, thoughts on Dark Light?
Neto, can you link to DL's games and demonstrate the scumminess you allude to?
kikuchiyo, is that you (or representative of you) in your avatar?Albert B. Rampage wrote:Ok.
I will pretend I never read post 74 and allow you, DLA, the chance to make a sensible, logical post to replace it. Go now, I'm closing my eyes.Albert B. Rampage wrote:So Neto, do you have any reliable intel on what DLA's play as scum is?Albert B. Rampage wrote:Then it would be wise to assume that he makes these illogical leaps as scum as well.
Farside, have you deciphered post 74? Any comment?Albert B. Rampage wrote:
I think it does. If he suffers form some kind of mental disability or other psychological handicap, I will grant you that this 21-year-old Norwegian may not be capable of critical thinking. Otherwise, anything he says will be held against him. Bar post 74, which we is the most convoluted, nonsensical piece of text that has yet to grace this game, and that I hope will be clarified any minute now.Netopalis wrote:ABR: I would assume so. My point is that illogical leaps alone should not be considered indicative of scumminess on his part.Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Expand on that, my general.saberwolf wrote:so you're admitting to waiting for backing before committing? That's not very pro-town of you.
I agree with the fact that it seems only select people are talking.Albert B. Rampage wrote:I love you all.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Who the hell is Toro? Can we replace him?Albert B. Rampage wrote:That's it? Your first post in 6 pages and that's all you have to offer?
Unvote, vote Elibereth
You have a looooot of content to post before you can redeem yourself for your absence.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Looks like this game is slowing down. I'll be L/A for the next 10 days.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Catching up soon.Albert B. Rampage wrote:unvote, vote Yarmond
RECLAIM THE SPIRIT OF MAFIA!Albert B. Rampage wrote:Unvote, vote Saber
You're just voting whoever ppl tell you to.
FOS: hewitt
Yarmond is even more useless yet you don't vote him.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Also, this is my meta, so stick that vote up yours. Ask Neto.Albert B. Rampage wrote:You haven't done shit all game. This is you:
"OK LETS CREATE DISCUSSION GUYS."
"LETS SPARK DISCUSSION."
"YEP YEP, AS LONG AS WE FIND A PLAN THAT MAKES DISCUSSION."
Bla bla bla.......some theory about fake voting......in other words, NOTHING. You have contributed NOTHING.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Oh, and the best one:
"I'M THE ONE WHO TOOK US OUT OF THE RANDOM VOTING STAGE GUYZZ, LOOK AT MEEEEE"Albert B. Rampage wrote:Actually, I find this very fucking scummy indeed!
Unvote Saber, vote hewitt
-The hewitt creature tries too hard to look pro-town by repeating ad nauseum that it wants "discussion".
hewitt wrote:Really because my history of not voting shows that it helps spark conversation and gauge reactions of other players very well. Basically you're saying players who don't random vote are scummy, and that's just silly.hewitt wrote:Anything, I really don't care honestly as long as it starts discussion SOMEHOW.hewitt wrote:Basically right now this game sucks and is absolutely going nowhere and I honestly don't even know what else to comment on. Which is...you know...always great...
-It is keen to hog the spotlight and subtly try to convince us that he's the most useful player:hewitt wrote:Ugh yeah I know. I was hoping someone would vehemently disagree so we can start conversation somehow but apparently that didn't work.<--- nice going btw
-It's wishy washy behavior that could be setting up a future Yarmond vote in case his vote on me doesn't hook:hewitt wrote:
For the record though that would be me who got us out of the RVS stage not saber.farside22 wrote:What is saber attack on Hewit laughable? Don't you think it's better to have some discusion to get us off the RVS stage?<--- Whateva man
hewitt wrote:I'm really not all that opposed to a Yarmond lynch considering we've got nothing else going on for us. Lurker lynches just always kind of bother me because we are probably going to hit town and that's just never really a good thing obviously.hewitt wrote:I just said I'm fine with a Yarmond lynch but at the same time there's that nagging in the back of my head like damn...we're probably not going to hit scum here. And of course that would bother me.<-- that's a pwetty disclaimer you got there, NOT.Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm quite happy.
Found scum!Albert B. Rampage wrote:So why are you voting for me, now that I'm posting content? OMGUS? But, isn't that like, OMGUSing OMGUS?Albert B. Rampage wrote:Oh, how unpleasantly unsurprising!
Have I provided original thoughts: Yuphewitt wrote:I think the best idea for today would be to lynch a player who is here yet hasn't shown any signs of being willing to contribute anything to the game.
Vote: Albert B. Rampage
He's done absolutely nothing so far this game but ask pointless questions to other players and has not provided any original thoughts to the game. He doesn't even respond to the answers of the pointless questions that he's asking. Reading all the players in ISO I think it's pretty clear that ABR has been and most likely will be the most useless player in this game.
If the vote's on Yarmond as a policy lynch for not contributing anything then I'm going to vote for the even worse offender, the player who's here and posting and still not contributing.
Do I respond to the questions I'm asking hewitt: Yeeap
Have I been the most useful player in this game: Uh huh
Am I contributing overall: No doubt about it
So, hewitt, it seems like your barrage of lies has finally come to light! Face it, you've never voted anyone because they "weren't contributing", you were voting them to pursue your scummy agenda!
You vote whoever is the most useful person to vote for you at the time. The proof is in the pudding. If not by now you would have moved on to the next "non-contributing" player by now.Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Wrong! No fact; ALL BRAG!hewitt wrote:blablabla
All fact; No brag guyyzAlbert B. Rampage wrote:How about you start explaining yourself to the town why you worry so much about what you look like? I mean, bro, isn't it a bit MUCH? Why are you being so needy for recognition? Could it be because you're an overcompensating mafioso that's trying to cover up?
You three, go pick out a quote from ABR that has been in any way helpful. Because there isn't one, in all of his posts. The evidence is right there.Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Wrong again...my oh my, you're bad at making true statements, aren't ya?hewitt wrote:Clearly, an overcompensating mafioso wouldn't give that much of a shit and would let the town run away with the easy target Yarmond lynch.
A good scum would let the town run away with the easy target Yarmond lynch, providing they are not partners of course, which I'm totally not discarding.
Anovercompensating scum, would see it as an opportunity to look pro-town. That's because he'sovercompensating.
Now, I have a high school friend's funeral to attend in half an hour, so I have to get ready.ShowRECORD
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I didn't want to tunnel on just ABR because that would be just plain silly if I'd only been reading up and calling out one player.Shotty to the Body wrote:I can point out several posts in my ISO that were contributive so why did you name me? I understand why you named ABR, but it just appears as if you're fishing for a list of suspects when you name one that doesn't fit.
In my opinion that was really the only post of yours that was contributing in any way. If you think you have several posts that are contributive than I'd like it if you could point them out because I've reread you in ISO twice now and that's really all I've got. Perhaps I'm missing something but I really don't see anything else.Shotty to the Body wrote:Because I also think Saber is scummy for the contradictions in his posts and I was still deciding who to vote as I wrote the post, should I just not mention those suspicions? Considering I picked a vote I wasn't pretending to be undecided, I'mdecidedthat I would accept either lynch right now.
"Not OMGUS, BUT" votes are always fake, DLA had no problem with Farside before she voted him. He claims she flipflopped by voting him but she said before she wasn't defending him, she was questioning Saber for putting words into DLA's mouth. If anything DLA is misrepresenting Farside's position which is scummy.
It's pretty set and clear that ABR and CSL have not contributed anything and you yourself agreed on ABR. So what exactly is your case/vote based on?ShowRECORD
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WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. I do not care about "appearing" to tunnel what I said wasShotty to the Body wrote:There's another thing. You said you didn't want to appear as though you were tunneling.
hewitt wrote:I didn't want to tunnel on just ABR
Wrong again and a gross misrepresentation of my case and actions. I don't give a shit about "appearing" pro-town or any of that bullcrap.Shotty to the Body wrote:The way you present your case is more focused on not being called scummy then actually catching someone, that's what bothers me about it the most.
Here's your posts 1, 3, and 5.
Shotty to the Body wrote:Chainsaw really isn't conclusive unless one party or the other is actually conf scum.Shotty to the Body wrote:
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This is like the fakest vote I've ever seen on this site.DarkLightA wrote:It would seem like the last sentence could be used to dampen the serverity of the vote.
Unvote
Vote: Farside
Not OMGUS:
First you supported me, then suddenly about 2-3 people go against me, and you find a chance to change before everyone goes against you for the support you gave (posts a few posts back show suspicion coming onto you because of this). So you find a chance to vote me first, making it seem like you'd be the starter of it,without really being so. This seems REALLY scummy to me. Don't know about you guys.
I can't decide if I want to vote Saber, DLA, or keep it where it is, choices choices... Ah what the hellunvote, vote DLA
1 isn't truly helpful because it's just useless theory and standard gameplay analyzation. 3 you just seconded what I had said and then was wishy washy on who you wanted to vote for. But 5 is slightly better.Shotty to the Body wrote:
89 --> 103 are why I would vote Saber, why the contrast if he thinks Konowa is town? I point to 106 as my reasoning for voting DLA, I thought that was obvious given the arrow.kikuchiyo wrote:
You failed to give any logical reasoning behind the two. I think Saber is scummier. Therefore you have tied yourself to him a slight bit. 106 is also interesting...Shotty to the Body wrote:
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wtf? lolkikuchiyo wrote:107 makes me want to lynch saber even more.
I fail to see why in any light.
And I'm not sure if your current conversation is truly helpful because your case on your vote is virtually non-existent and isn't based on anything concrete. Saying "hey no I have been contributing YOU haven't been contributing" isn't really contributing lol.ShowRECORD
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Completely incorrect. What sense would it make for a town player to tunnel on one player and not be noticing what all the players are doing. That's completely stupid.Shotty to the Body wrote:I know what you said, I translated it into what you meant. "I didn't just want to tunnel on just ABR." Means, I didn't want to be called out on tunneling on one player and I also wanted to keep my lynch options open. Neither of which is very pro-town.
Complete opposite. Are you even paying attention? The whole point of posting all of ABR's posts wasn't so that someone could find something suspicious but to prove that ABR hasn't DONE anything.DarkLightA wrote:wow.. "Let me post all of ABR's posts and maybe someone will find something suspicious".. wow.ShowRECORD
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ABR you are so fake. What a fake, dishonest question to ask.ShowRECORD
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I know you're delighted that your OMGUS case has garnered so many bandwagon votes. If I'm lynched scum will definitely win because I've never seen a town stupid enough to follow such a blatantly awful player like yourself.Albert B. Rampage wrote:No. Straight up. As honest as it gets. Please provide clues as to your scumbuddies identities.ShowRECORD
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Don't even pretend like they aren't thoughtlessly following your stupid OMGUS vote. Must make you feel "powerful", congrats.ShowRECORD
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It has everything to do with my alignment. Because I'm town and you're pushing a crap OMGUS wagon and yet the town is following you anyways. If a town is going to be that stupid then that's their own fault and the town is most definitely going to lose.Albert B. Rampage wrote:This sentence is dumb on so many levels. What do my personal skills as a scumhunter have to do with your alignment? Zero.
Let's just pretend you're town for a second, even though you're not. If you think I'm awful, and everyone else is awful except kik and farside, who would you think is scum? And if you can't answer that, then you're even more awful than us, because you can't get a read on anyone.
If you're scum then I would have to say DLA and Shotty are scum with you. You're the one who's going to steamroll the town into doing whatever you want them to do, DLA is the dopey, mindless follower who can't formulate a proper sentence much less a case, and Shotty is the under the radar player who's slightly surprised that he's getting a little bit of heat so early.ShowRECORD
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Yeah you keep insisting that I've done something scummy yet this whole time you've yet to describe exactly how I'm scummy. In fact, the only thing you've done is present the OMGUS case. And you haven't even denied it. And what's with the fakeness again? The whole you're scum, I'm town statement is ridiculously fake.ShowRECORD
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I really haven't insulted you. And if you are a town player then yeah you are playing awful and that's not my fault. And this is like the 20th post in a row where you have YET to prove how I'm scum. What's with the stalling?
And that last little paragraph right there is really really scummy. Turning lynches into a Player A v. Player B, one has to be lynched is an EXTREMELY scummy thing to do. Town players NEVER do that.ShowRECORD
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Not sweating at all. It really doesn't matter. If I die then the town is just going to be in deep shit. And since I'll be dead it really isn't my problem. And I didn't misrepresent you at all. You just made it a Player A or Player B lynch. And that's scummy as fuck.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Sweating because you know where the chips will fall? I didn't say they had to vote either one of us. You are misrepresenting me...let's just call it a night and check back on the game tomorrow. G'nite hewitt.ShowRECORD
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And yet no one has actually dug through it and attempted to pull something out of there and pass it off as contributing. It's amazing how all you two do is talk and talk and yet never back up what you're saying.DarkLightA wrote:Nice phrasing... Personally I laugh when I read it though, seeing as you disproved your statement by posting his ISO.
I'm not the type of player who's going to let idiocy slide. So obviously I'm going to call it out when I see it and unfortunately this game has a lot of it.DarkLightA wrote:You sure do seem to be sweating...
DLA go back up 1. your case/vote, because you've yet to do so and 2. that ABR has actually been helpful and contributive. Your refusal to back up anything you say is shockingly sophomoric.ShowRECORD
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So basically your case/vote is based on me calling ABR's OMGUS vote on me OMGUS and that I've been making jokes. That doesn't even make sense. And those posts of ABR's that claim were helpful were most definitely not. The first one asked questions but absolutely no helpful discussion came from the responses and he didn't even properly respond to the responses. That is a fact. The response to your post lol are you kidding?
You quote THIS as being helpful??? Good Lord what type of game am I in.ABR wrote:Ok.
I will pretend I never read post 74 and allow you, DLA, the chance to make a sensible, logical post to replace it. Go now, I'm closing my eyes.
Then the following two posts asking for meta that he can look up himself and then responding with a neutral answer is supposed to be helpful too? We all know meta's usually a crapshoot anyways and on top of that he's supposedly basing his judgment of your playstyle off another player.
DLA that attempt sucked go back and try again. Or better yet, just don't because if that's the best you can strain to come up with it's only going to get even more downhill and nonsensical from here.
If I'm right about ABR being scum then this is most definitely a prime example of chainsaw defense and I'm at least 2/3, for sure, correct in my scum list.ShowRECORD
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Truthfully I feel that ABR already kind of looks stupid but hey, maybe that's just because I have the inside knowledge on my role. I'm glad you're having fun watching though because honestly I feel bad. I get extremely annoyed with back and forths and usually I get totally dissociated with a game if there is one like the one that's been going on between ABR and myself. I would LOVE it if more people could weigh in.CSL wrote:Wow, this is one heated debate. If Hewitt flips town, ABR will look stupid, If I'm correct.
Hewitt and ABR, keep arguing. It's fun watching you two have at it.ShowRECORD
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Jesus I feel like I'm playing with freshmen here.
Chainsaw Defense (Tarhalindur Version)
The general form of this tell is "a player who defends another player by attacking the other player's attacker is very probably scum".
The key to identifying this tell is intent - it is possible to confuse Chainsaw Defense with a player who simply finds the attacker scummy and has no intent of defense. In general, you can be reasonably sure that this tell is involved if a) the player supposedly using Chainsaw Defense has not previously been especially critical of the player he is now attacking, and b) the player supposedly using Chainsaw Defense seems to find the player he is supposedly defending at least reasonably pro-town.
The extreme form of this tell is Mutual Chainsaw Defense, where two players defend each other by attacking each others' attackers. This is a major scumtell, and Tarhalindur would be willing to lynch/vig both players with only this tell as justification.
The Chainsaw Defense is named after the mental image of a player ripping apart another player with a chainsaw for daring to attack his ally. It should not be confused with the Cochrane Defense, which can also be referred to as the Chainsaw Defense (the Wiki refers to the Cochrane Defense this way), which is a gambit made by players investigated as scum. The Chainsaw Defense can also be referred to as the Bodyguard Defense in order to prevent confusion.
UPDATE: After further analysis, Tarhalindur has determined that the Chainsaw Defense is only trustworthy once the player defended has been revealed to be group scum (once the player defended is proved to be Mafia, any player that used Chainsaw Defense on the dead scum should be scrutinized). Otherwise, it is a null tell. Mutual Chainsaw Defense may, however, still be an outright scumtell; more research is required here.ShowRECORD
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It's really just that I'm, quite frankly, annoyed to be playing with some of these players. I mean come on, DLA doesn't even know the definition of chainsaw defense, neither DLA or ABR have taken the proper time to actually outline a competent case, it's annoying.CSL wrote:You know what, hewitt's play smells slightly like AtE...ShowRECORD
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Can you read? Like, honestly, CAN...YOU...READ?DarkLightA wrote:Same here. Basically it's attacking a player who attacks your team mate. I happen to be against you, and so is ABR. I don't see the chainsaw in this.
Maybe I can simplify and bold this for you.hewitt wrote:If I'm right about ABR being scumthen this is most definitely a prime example of chainsaw defense and I'm at least 2/3, for sure, correct in my scum list.
IF I'M RIGHT ABOUT ABR BEING SCUM THEN YOU ARE MOST LIKELY CHAINSAWING DEFENDING HIM.
This statement, is based off speculation. Which is all any of us have in this game. Unless you are scum, which again, I'm guessing I'm most likely right about, you don't know ABR's alignment. So that whole statement that you just made is ridiculous.
Players like you, who make dumbass statements like I happen to be against you and so is ABR are really prime examples of awful, awful Mafia players. And if you're town, which once again, I'm guessing is not likely, you are going to look like a dumb fuck after this game is over.
God this almost makes me wish I was playing with zwetschenwasser and Empking.ShowRECORD
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And now you're spouting gibberish again great.DarkLightA wrote:According to what I see it's silly to say that you're attacking ABR.. I dunno.. Might just be the culture difference XDShowRECORD
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Really ABR? Another weak, pathetic argument that has been inflated to look as if it's actually something significant? Filled with misrepresentations, incorrect usages of game terminology, and weak arguments to compensate for a case originated on an OMGUS. This has got to be a joke.ShowRECORD
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Don't be fucking stupid.Albert B. Rampage wrote:You're OMGUSingme. You didn't attack me because you thought I was scum, you attacked me for being one of the many players who "weren't contributing" in your opinion. I voted you because I thought you were scum. And then you OMGUSed me.
Actually no not all the players in this game are awful at all. Right now, it's pretty much just yourself and DLA.Albert B. Rampage wrote:"I may be scum, but I played a perfect game, and your reasons for voting me are crap! You're all awful players, voting me for all the wrong reasons!"ShowRECORD
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Since I AM at L-1 I would just like to state that if I am lynched ABR and DLA clearly need to go next, not necessarily in that order. I think a "town" that wouldn't lynch these two freshies after myself is a town that's definitely going to lose. And quite honestly, I would not mind if the town did lose. I don't even really care that it would count as a loss for me, it would probably just make me smile.ShowRECORD
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I can understand why a player would be disinterested in lynching Yarmond considering six days ago Lab Mafia said they were working on replacing them (when is that going to happen?) but the way Ellibereth just kind of stepped in and didn't say anything even remotely helpful or original is bothersome. Active lurking much?ShowRECORD
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Oop simul-post. At least Ellibereth is consistent in being unhelpful, unoriginal, and pretty much dead weight in this game.Ellibereth wrote:
SeriouslyDarkLight wrote: Defending a player who isn't here?? SERIOUSLY????
Ellibereth not elizabeth.farside wrote: Just reading elizabeth's post 276. Why are you voting hewitt? Nothing in that post shows a reason. How is hewitt misrep? Why are you taking one side over the other?
Cause I think he's scum.
He had a misrep in 218.
I think hewitt's scum.ShowRECORD
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That's my misrep Ellibereth? It's dangerous to smoke crack and then play Mafia, be careful.hewitt wrote:
This is kind of a funny little misrepresentation here. When did I ever state that I've been a top contributor?CSL wrote:hewitt, I'm going to have to agree with ABR on this one. You have not contributed at all. I know I haven't contributed much either, but that's because I don't see anything that sets off my scumdar, EXCEPT this.ShowRECORD
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Yeah and I immediately dropped it because I realized that CSL wasn't trying to insinuate that I quoted myself as being a top contributor. Slight miscommunication that really had no impact on discussion at all.ShowRECORD
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Pointing out facts, which are things you have consistently shown to ignore when they're visible for everybody in the game to see.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Stop. Fucking. Accusing people of not contributing. It will never end.
That's interesting.Albert B. Rampage wrote:At this point in time, people can vote for hewitt along with a simple DIE SCUM DIE! for all I care.ShowRECORD
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Clearly every player's a suspect, duh.DarkLightA wrote:@Hewitt: You're still a suspect. Stop acting like you're the king of this game. That's the mod.ShowRECORD
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Disagreeing with a case is FAR from defending that player.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Yah, they both defended Yarmond. So what? I fail to understand your logic.
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I'll go more in depth later in the post.
How would me flipping town point out to DLA being the correct lynch the next day?Shotty to the Body wrote:I could go for a DLA lynch today or tomorrow, if we lynched hewitt today and he flipped town I would be 100% behind a DLA lynch day two.
How are you confusedDarkLightA wrote:I'm REALLY confused right now..
Answering the questions in order. Any way possible I was trying to spark conversation, the game was killer dead. Telling people to make discussion isn't contributing. I was actively attempting to spark conversation somehow and it pretty much worked but unfortunately kind of went to a dead end, although different roads have recently begun popping up. Not sure if it's a result of anything I've done it seems to be more based on the Yarmond wagon.farside22 wrote:hewitt - Talks about sparky conversation by not voting during RVS. Don't agree that hewitt was the reason we got out of RVS. Lets try another method of not sparking discussion. What exactly where you trying to get people to disagree with you about?
Ask for conversation and again offer nothing to go on. The post for ABR is OMGUS. Reasoning is flawed! Talks about ABR not contributing but not till the case is on him from ABR. IE How fake is hewitts vote on a scale of 1 - 10 (10!) Oh and wow I see this as more questionable
There was CSL, Ellibereth, shotty, ect. Many can be accused of this but you only point to ABR, CSL and shotty. Please! Guess what only very few at this point were really actually contributing.
Sorry even if there was no vote on Hewitt there was a deffinate case on him that just feels like hewitt ignored. How is telling people to make discussion contributing. Why do you say your trying to get something going but it goes no where. Why do you point to ABR as a noncontributor in the game as your case when more then half the people in this game could be accused of this action?
I pointed specifically to ABR because he was one of the more vocal players in the game and yet nothing he had done had really sparked anything helpful in the game. I picked out CSL and Shotty as well because I felt they were right up there too. I did not pick out Yarmond, Konowa, and Ellibereth because they weren't active and there's no point in pointing out they're not doing anything helpful, that much was clear. I did not initially point out DLA (although I should've and quickly pointed him out later as another example). I did not point out farside, kiku, netopalis, and saberwolf because I felt they had attempted to spark conversation and lead conversation in productive manners.
I don't feel quite comfortable lynching ABR today. Normally I'd want to pick out the Mafiate who plays manipulatively and sneakily in order to subtly sway the town in their direction to lynch townies. I don't think ABR is that Mafiate at all and if anything is more of a SensFan. At this point in the game though I feel like the follower Mafiates who follow their leaders and attempt to fly under the radar are much easier to spot out.
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I used SensFan as an example because of a specific game I played with him where I was town, he was scum, I called him out on something and he responded irrationally and obnoxiously in kind of the same manner ABR did. I was lynched, flipped town and he went on to win the game as scum. Open 121 in case you were interested.farside22 wrote:What? *puts hand to head* I'm scared when I see people who use others style of play as an example and a term.
I didn't just "tell people" to have a discussion, I purposely said things in order to try and spark conversation and at first it failed miserably and then worked wonderfully. Whether or not said latter conversations where productive is questionable but I started them with the intent of productivity.farside22 wrote:Okay hewitt how is it that telling people to have a discussion sparks conversations?
What's the point of asking a question and then saying hey this is how I want you to respond? Same difference.farside22 wrote:2) again how is it that asking people to have to disagree with you spark any conversation when you don't tell people what they are to disagree with.
You're apparently not quite understanding the point or deliberately ignoring what else I've said about the decision to point out ABR. I didn't point him out JUST because he was one of the more vocal players in the game. I picked him out because he was a one of the most vocal players who had not sincerely made an attempt to start or carry productive conversation. That, to me, is uselessness. A very vocal player posting a lot of fluff and nothing substantial is useless.farside22 wrote:
that was not your case on him at all in fact you said just the opposite about him in your case. In fact you stated this about himI pointed specifically to ABR because he was one of the more vocal players in the game
Reading all the players in ISO I think it's pretty clear that ABR has been and most likely will be the most useless player in this game.
If I was going to start conversation I was going balls-out firestarting. I was sick of checking in to this thread and seeing three more posts of V/LA or yeah...this game is going nowhere...farside22 wrote:That's pretty harsh considering others where not exactly playing this game at full throttle.
That really doesn't bother me, how you scumhunt is your own business but if we're not going to see eye to eye then I'm going to forget you and do this damn thing myself.farside22 wrote:I feel that vote of yours (against Ellibereth) is like a person who just got caught trying to make a bad case and trying to do a 180 to salvage yourself.
Can't vote multiple people unfortunately so I have to assess which one I feel is most likely to be scum based off their separate actions. It's where less concrete reasonings such as intuition, speculation, and mannerisms come in to play.farside22 wrote:One thing I will agree with there is more here then those non contributors who dont' add anything to this game but there really is more then one person so your vote and logic is faulty.
That was silly. Go read Large Normal 92, I start in on Page 13. Impossible lynches mean nothing to me.Albert B. Rampage wrote:I think what you meant to say was "I feel that lynching ABR is impossible today."
Is this supposed to intimidate me? This is the internet bud, I'm not going to get knifed in the heart during the middle of night, nothing to be scared of.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Of the 9 active players, 9 have either expressed a willingness to hammer you (kiku, Neto), drawn suspicion on you in one form or another (farside, DLA), or outright placed their vote on you (everybody else).
The problem with this here is that you're trying to insinuate that I'm backed into a corner and I'm not. Players accumulate votes and then the bandwagon dies, it's the way of the game and it would be silly to be scared of that.Albert B. Rampage wrote:The problem here, is that you're barraged from all sides and at two dangerous inches from a sudden death
NeveeerrrrAlbert B. Rampage wrote:I will accept an unconditional surrender of you, hewitt, to me, Albert. If you swear fealty to me, we can hunt downNetopalis. What do you say?
Well that was an excellent way for CSL to decide to change his mind and flip sides without it seeming random. That was a scummy move on CSL's part.DarkLightA wrote:
Way to back up the vote..CSL wrote:HOWEVER, this doesn't mean I'm done with you, hewitt.
Also, if anyone sees a flaw with his statement, I will switch my vote back to him...
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I'm glad you would consider that an insult. Because I sure would. And I didn't call you SensFan I compared your style of play in this game towards me to SensFan's when I played with him. And I'm completely correct in that assessment, the similarities are remarkable.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Listen up, nubcake.Nevercall me Sensfan unless you intend it as an insult.ShowRECORD
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Wildly inaccurate, my attack on ABR CLEARLY started a LOT of discussion.farside22 wrote:Does this not ask others to start discussion and every attempt you made failed.ShowRECORD
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I suppose that wouldn't be an unfair comparison. Battle Mage was one of the main factors in my Mafia lose in Mafia #100 so I'm flattered. Painting Netopalis as a scum player would be very difficult but if I was attempting to do so I would link him DLA. I would probably play up that DLA is obv-scum and that there's no need to lynch him today and that it would be best to take out his stronger scum buddies. I would point out that Netopalis has consistently been weakly attacking DLA from the beginning without ever actually doing anything, distancing from his weaker scum partner. Netopalis has shown great displeasure with a lot that DLA has done and I would so most of the time it'd seem vote-worthy and the fact that he hadn't voted for him yet as disturbing.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Your style is quite similar to a fellow we all used to know by the name of Battle Mage.
I do wish to know something though, hewitt. Indulge my little role-play if you will. If you were scum, and you needed to paint Neto as scum in this game, how would you do it? Alternatively, can you build a case on Neto? I know you've won a game as mafia, so it shouldn't be too difficult for you.
It would most definitely be a difficult case to build.ShowRECORD
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I don't know how else to get it through to you. I don't care what you all do at this point. At this point I'm going to do my own thing and if people have common sense then that's great but if they don't then it really doesn't matter and there was nothing else I could've done anyway.farside22 wrote:I would like to just point out that hewitt didn't take his vote off of ABR till (1) he realized no one was agreeing with him or (2) looking for an easier lynch.
Horrible, horrible, horrible idea. What the fuck are you doing? Why the hell are you lining up lynches? And on D1 at that?CSL wrote:Go ahead and lynch me. Once I turn town, go for hewitt. If he ends up being town, then go for ABR, as he and hewitt made an argument. If hewitt flips scum, then ABR is town, and then go for DLA.
I laughed out at loud at this and everybody in the office just looked at me.Shotty to the Body wrote:Lynching CSL is a mistake, he's a weaker player that everyone wagons onto because it's almost as excusable as a Zwet policy lynch.
And for the record, playing with DLA, CSL, and saberwolf all together really fucking sucks. Honest to good the most sporadic, nonsensical players ever. This little vote hopping thing that they're all so fond of is REALLY getting on my nerves. This is the first time ever I'm actually getting aggravated in real life over Mafia, congrats you three.ShowRECORD
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You're...not...getting...me aggravated? And what are you talking about with meta? What is the relevance in this post?farside22 wrote:Getting aggravated is not going to win you over with me. I'm still voting CSL.
For the record I hate meta. It's something both town and scum use. Scum use it to conceal their scumminess and town uses it to try and find scum by past performance. People can use meta against the town, which is why I find it a bad thing to go on.ShowRECORD
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