Open 150 - Crossfire - Game mod abandoned

[hasdgfas]

hi guys.

catching up soon.

Anything you need to ask me or tell me while I'm catching up?

[hasdgfas]

Hascow's "I'm catching up" series of posts, Pages 1-4

Please note: I am going to comment on people who have died, because I haven't read the OP. I find that if I don't read who's been lynched and died, I get a better read on the game.

page 1:
Fernando, Post 7: I always dislike people explicitly saying random for their votes.
Ash, Post 17: uhhhh, seems a little bit of an overreaction.
dvdkid, Post 24: Something about this post rubs me the wrong way. Maybe it's the smiley.

page 2:
kmd, post 26: Yessssss? annnnnnd?
huntress, post 31: Best bet? why?
kaiv, post 39: The blue hurts my eyes
kise, post 40: buddying with zazier, eh? and you're calling out dvdkid for buddying? I don't like this.
kise, post 46: What are you talking about?

page 3:
kise, post 51: Ok, this deserves a

FoS: Kise

for blatant buddying.
kmd, post 55:
kmd, post 60: an excellent question
VPB, post 61: Looks RVS to me, to be quite honest. I see no reasoning.
kmd, post 67: I just want to point out that he said "scumhinting" which, if you wanted to go Freudian slip, you could here.
kmd, post 73: why does nobody explain their votes when they say it's a "non-joke" vote?
huntress, post 74: are all FoSes distancing? If not, why is Kise's?

page 4:
fernando, post 76: Why are gut feelings useful at one stage, but not at another?
dvdkid, post 78: GGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
lmoth, post 80: why the two of them? Why are you thinking about joining a kmd bandwagon or the bandwagon he seems to have started?
lmoth, post 91: what does this do to help the game?
dvdkid, post 92: but that's if it's a completely random lynch. The chances should get better as the day moves on. (Plus, 31% chance of lynching scum is quite good)
dvdkid, post 97: A mislynch can be extremely helpful to the town :teach:


all right, I'll be back with more pages later, but I think that's a decent start.
Current thoughts:
where's ash? he started out posting quickly, but hasn't posted since.
kise is buddying with zazier. I don't like that at all.
dvdkid is acting really, really scummy, and the "unvote, RVS over" post is just dumb and scummy.
lmoth is actively lurking.

FoS

fernando is acting rather odd, not sure what that means at this point though.

[hasdgfas]

afat, I've made 2 posts in this game, I can't be "that obvious" as scum

[hasdgfas]

Hascow's catching up posts, pages 5-9:

page 5:
dvdkid, post 100: Does this say anything? no, no it doesn't.
kise, post 102: And this isn't worth a vote, why?
kise, post 104: Gah, why with the unvote? I don't get it. Who is scummy? You're not saying anything here.
kise, post 107: Why no vote? And why are they scummy?
kise, post 110: What does what other people want to do have to do with your vote?
kise, post 115: Why lazarus?
dvdkid, post 116: Why the lurker hunting?
kise, post 119: Really don't like the following the town here. Kise is trying way too hard to seem pro-town.
kise, post 122: But someone you want lynched might not be who the town wants lynched.

page 6:
kise, post 127: Still with the following.
kise, post 129: What does FoSing have to do with voting? And isn't trying to convince others that you're right one of the main points of this game?
kise, post 134: GGAAAAAHHHHHH! You just said that you don't like people trying to convince you through argument, yet you don't mind being fake-bribed? Something doesn't add up.
kise, post 140: opportunism? ugh, please die scum.
kise, post 141: If you're going to swear, please actually do it instead of just changing a syllable.
kise, post 149: And yet you also seem to be just jumping on wagons.

page 7:
kise, post 151: hypcritical much about the adhom? Plus, you haven't explained your change of stance on lazarus.
Kise, post 160: Post count =/= being a talking player :teach: AND WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR NOT YOUR TOP SUSPECT? GGGAAAAAAHHHHHHH
kise, post 165: ha. haha. hahaha. hahahaha. contradiction? hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
kise, post 167: nothing in this post is pro-town.
VPB, post 168: That is a blatant misrepresentation of his post, VPB.
ex-me, post 171: :headdesk:
ash, post 172: There's nothing here. You're not saying anything. Please explain this post. Also, text speak? what? the emoticon?
ash, post 174: If you have a good reason for voting the person voting you, it's not OMGUS.

page 8:
zach, post 178: Hey zach, how about you? I don't recall you saying much about this game either!
ash, post 181: Going on "documented tells" is a terrible idea, since meta shifts and personal playstyles can sorta change scumtells, (although I agree with scum wanting to tell you they're scum) :teach:
kmd, post 191: OMGUS isn't scummy when it's not OMGUS. (Please note my comments on ash's post 174.)
ash, post 192: scumhunting is not a towntell in a multi-faction game. (not to mention that I hate taking things as "towntells")

page 9:
kise, post 206: *sigh* He admits it's OMGUS. I had forgotten we hadn't gotten reasons for a huntress vote, interesting.
kham, post 209: Oh hi, I forgot you were in this game. Plus, it's not OMGUS. He explained it, therefore not OMGUS.
kise, post 211: You can still scumhunt while being the center of attention. Also, way too nonchalant about being lynched. Sure, town shouldn't be afraid to be lynched, but this seems too unafraid.
kise, post 217: behaving suspicious != scummy? whaaaaaa?
lmoth, post 224: We've seen this already. Are you caught up?

ok, thoughts to here.
kise is almost obv scum. He could just be VI.
ash is really aggressive, and has some decent points, but is off-base on some things, and doesn't post enough.
zach definitely doesn't post enough.
dvdkid is also possible scum.
Man, my replacee was really bad. Try to take me on my merits and not his?

[hasdgfas]

Hascow's still catching up posts, pages 10-X:
all right, just finished dinner, maybe I can catch all the way up:

page 10:
ash, post 229: good hammer, honestly. Question is, was this just a suspicion that recently came up?
kmd, post 233: What? How does that hammer mean he's town?
kaiv, post 246: Wait, he was town? O.O

page 11:
kmd, post 250: Gee, that helps
zach, post 257: Not liking this at all.
kham, post 263: Do you really have nothing else to say? Why do you like the darkstrike case?
zach, post 266: didn't you just defend darkstrike from someone else's attack?
kham, post 267: Gah, NK Speculation = scummy.
kham, post 272: Boy, you're really pushing this without voting aren't you?

page 12:
kmd, post 277: THANK YOU
a lot of complaining about lurking, not much saying anything game-related

page 13:
lmoth, post 300: You made a case? Where? When?
k7, post 306: Ack. This'll help the lurking
and a lot of nothing on the rest of this page.

page 14:
kmd, post 330: IT'S NOT OMGUS IF THEY HAVE REASONS FOR VOTING YOU
still lots of nothing

page 15:
k7, post 353: You haven't said anything game-related. Please do so or I will almost definitely vote you.
besides this, nothing game-related on this page that I feel like commenting on.

page 16:
battousai, post 381: Could you please elaborate on why they are scummy on this wagon? It's all well and good saying "they reacted scummish" but you can't leave it at that.


ok, now, who is scum?
I'll tell you who I think is scum, although some of them have probably been replaced.

zachrulez: He defends darkstrike, and then votes for him for basically what he defended him for, unless I'm missing something.
He didn't actually defend himself from kmd's attack, he deflected it and attacked back.

kmd, probably with zach, actually: They've been going at each other, but it doesn't feel genuine. It seems to be for things that are rather trivial.

dvdkid: For posting but never actually saying anything. He only voted to lurker hunt.

Not sure who the fourth is, maybe k7, who has, quite literally, said nothing, even with all of day 1 to look at.

vote: Zach
FoS: kmd, dvdkid

[hasdgfas]

@has - Im used to being ignored but not that much... kinda funny

take it as a compliment, I didn't find anything scummy worth commenting on from you.

[hasdgfas]

How has just ignored kham after mentioning her

as what at least sure sounds like scum

Please explain. I don't know what you're talking about.

[hasdgfas]

How has just ignored kham after mentioning her

as what at least sure sounds like scum

Please explain. I don't know what you're talking about.

Comparatively to the rest of the players in the game, you seemed to give kham a whole lot of negative attention for her actions regarding the daybreak of D2, on top of a few scattered mentioning during other parts of the game. You pull up zach which seems understandable given your analysis, but when you add on kmd (who percentile wise you have as less scummy although that isnt the best indicator), and dvd (who was scummy early then went poof), I just dont see how you end up with the ignorance of kham.

I have to partially wonder if this is due to the fact that kham was most acting on the assumtion of your predicessors alignment. I know that I do react differently when people suspect me or think of me as town. I feel myself get more terse, long winded or bulldoggish in different scenarios, but it doesnt feel right to have you not be even casting a FoS here.

I usually only FoS people I'd feel comfortable voting, and I'm still quite stingy with FoSes. I don't use them that often, tbh. The only reason I have 2 out(not that it matters that much in this game) is because I really dislike kmd's and Zach's attacks on each other, and dvdkid was horrid.

Not to mention, just because I mention someone a lot in my catching up doesn't mean they're going to be in my final suspicion list. During catching up, I comment on things I feel need commenting on, then when I'm done, I pull from what I feel needs pulling from, don't follow up on things that aren't quite as important to me at that point as other things, and then extrapolate things, like how kmd came out of nowhere. He may not have made many posts that I commented on, but his behavior as a whole made me suspicious with regards to him/Zach.

Khamisa? Has said almost nothing, which is quite scummy in and of itself, and she might be fourth on my list, but the other 3 are at a higher level at this point. At this point, I'm looking for active scumminess(with people who are still in the game), and hoping that the replacements can assuage my feelings about the scummy lurkers.

Oh, and the reason dvdkid hasn't left my list is because Battousai hasn't assuaged my feelings about him.
speaking of which,

Battousai:

battousai, post 381: Could you please elaborate on why they are scummy on this wagon? It's all well and good saying "they reacted scummish" but you can't leave it at that.

[hasdgfas]

You remember Grim Mafia Has?

I do...

The tone of your attacks on me are actually quite similar to that game...

it's all well and good saying that, however:

A) I was never actually truly "caught up" in GrimMafia

B) You're not backing up your arguments with evidence and/or explanation

[hasdgfas]

Tell us why we should?

where's that post you promised us?

[hasdgfas]

@ Zach - Since you have never played a game with me, I shall let that comment drop. When I say I will post something, it means I will eventually. Don't push me, I've been known to get snappy recently. I will get that post up when I can.

Two days ago, however, you said you were going to post "tomorrow", which at this point, is yesterday. Do you usually say you're going to post on a certain day and then not?

[hasdgfas]

Would you like a list of games where i've done that? (It'll be the whole lot though)

one as scum, and one as town where you've promised a post on a certain day and not delivered.

[hasdgfas]

Therefore a null tell. Wait, are you actually saying you went and read through the whole of those games checking the date and times of my posts haha?

no, that's what I want from you so that I can see if it's a null tell.

[hasdgfas]

Ok. In the meatime.

Can everybody write their current cases about the players they think are scum, please? I know that is probably slightly lazy of me, but it will make things quicker. I am still doing a full detailed reread currently though.

Ill work on it.

please do. Maybe you'll actually post something of substance.

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@ Kmd: Your vote for Zach in post 391 doesn't count as you didn't unvote first. The question is - was this deliberate?

Nope. Didn't realize it.

Guess I'm about done. Well, scum are Darkstrike, Zach, whoever replaced Dvd, and whoever replaced Laz. Good luck guys.

I replaced darkstrike. as convinced of me as you are of him?

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@ Kmd: Your vote for Zach in post 391 doesn't count as you didn't unvote first. The question is - was this deliberate?

Nope. Didn't realize it.

Guess I'm about done. Well, scum are Darkstrike, Zach, whoever replaced Dvd, and whoever replaced Laz. Good luck guys.

I replaced darkstrike. as convinced of me as you are of him?

ftr, replacing me with you, I completely agree with that assessment

[hasdgfas]

This game is dead. Deadline was over 24 hours ago, mod hasnt posted in a week, no one is willing to lynch kham/AFC scum...

I think other people are more likely scum, as I've mentioned.

[hasdgfas]

woot, zach and lmoth scum, very happy about getting those two right.

[hasdgfas]

I was town, btw