Open 857 | Frienemies | Postgame

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Spoiler:

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A lot of these pictures are not the New Radicals

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Okay, that's enough for today. Can somebody do their best to try to sum up the gamestate?

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Give me two hours, I'll vote, and you can end the day.

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I drink.

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VOTE: Enchant Once red, flip SS

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If town, flip Looker.

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I'd prefer if implosion wasn't in the running for elim and it was just between dat, enchant, and fire. I think seeing where everyone votes within those three would be the most illuminating. At least as far as I've been annotating votes in my spreadsheet.

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Are you embracing chaos again

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Spoiler:

Indirect VT claim

• Datisi
  
• Enchant
  
• Fireisred

Dat-Wagon

• implosion
  
• hutmeil
  
• Fireisred

Something_Smart's do not touch (Pot'l Masons)

• implosion
  
• Something_Smart
  
• hutmeil
  
• Looker

Universal town read?

• hutmeil

Alcoholic

• Liquor
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It makes more sense for Enchant to be in the running than implo if SS's aim was to shield the unclaimed. I expected Datisi to die either way, but was honoring the time given me to place a vote. I don't think Datisi's going to flip wolf.

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Also, no one mentioned anything about Gamma crumbing.

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The point was that there was an inconsistency that appeared to be being overlooked for no reason. And the complacency of the game state is what made me feel doubt regarding the outcome. I also don't trust V/LA's, but that's a personal paranoia. At some point in every game I start to believe everyone's an alt and that they're cheating the system.

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But it's already too late. The prod range is 48 hours and deadline is only 14 hours away.

[Looker]

Look, I joined this game as a favor to catboi because we used to date in high school. I don't need this abuse.

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It didn't seem dumb to me, it seemed like an inconsistency. I tried to help, but I'm not a "dumbass" lol. You act like I'm attacking your first-born or something. Meanwhile, the person who is centered in the inconsistency hasn't said anything and it's being glossed over. I still think that's weird. /dumbass

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Remember me, baby?

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SS isn't going to post. You don't rock a wagon when it's working for you. The ideal play is to exploit the lethargy and ride til deadline. My thoughts are not dumb.

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You even have the empty promise prod dodges. I know I'm not crazy.

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Oh no, most of this is defense. I expected them to hammer you immediately and I didn't want the blame for it. I don't have a concrete enough opinion to condemn anyone but I can scumhunt as you die. I acted on a suspicion and in this vacuum of inactivity it was immediately exaggerated, which I'm still kind of reading into.

Pedit: I don't think that works

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If it's me and SS, I just come in and do what SS is doing. I even have the out of following fire and every other player who confirmed fire's game interpretation.

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Right?

Pedit: because complacency and inactivity. It's also hedge betting - if he's scum, good, if he's not, I look good.

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I wouldn't call it convinced, though. Clearly I haven't read all 3000 posts and I probably won't. Hence the asking for help and then my dumbass thoughts.

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Well that's rude

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Trend and experience, and it's easy - he's going to die regardless and I get to seem self-righteous if he's town. If he's scum, o well, it's not like I've been paying attention. I just need to work my way back into catboi's heart.

Pedit: JESUS have a heart. I am a HUMAN BEING.

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I asked this guy for a kiss and he said he left his mouth in his other head. What a jerk.

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Ok I'm gonna go to bed before you say something else to hurt my feelings lol

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"Sorry, got held up and couldn't read, but it's deadline and we should eliminate someone, so I'll hammer" - my expectations for SS

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It's too late for that. That should've been done the first time he dodged a prod.

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VOTE: Something_Smart

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We wait forever and then you tell him he doesn't have to answer? Wtf?

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SS tomorrow

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Hilarious

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Kind of thought it was a foregone conclusion that I was dying here since I was so contradictory yesterday. I figure you guys are going to kill off of Datisi's wagon since he flipped red.

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Without question you guys are going to be more familiar with the game state, so I'm pretty much willing to sheep the most compelling case. I'd be lying if I said I took the night phase to properly catch up.

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what's the point of claiming if there's no one to corroborate

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the gamble is whether we win by killing me and enchant

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I'm questioning the point of claiming before e-1. Seems unnecessary.

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I still don't get the point of claiming? Gg and all, but what's the difference between claiming now and claiming tomorrow after scum have had to guess an additional time?

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I won't be voting first out of pure sportsmanship. I just joined this game, I won't be the one to throw it. Good luck to the both of you.

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If you're have cases, though, please post them, because...yeah...

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@fire, which game are you reading that's comparable to this one
@enchant, I've played too many to know which one you're talking about, but I don't think that's true. If anything, I'm not giving into the frustration of this obvious set-up.

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If you've looked at several, you can point me to one. And the obvious set-up is me being here. I didn't vote Datisi, who flipped red, and instead wanted to vote SS, who flipped green. And I argued against the last mason claiming before e-1, but apparently (I still don't see it) there was a strategic advantage to hutmeil claiming with 0 votes on them. It makes the most sense for me to be the fall guy. That's three wrongs in a row. I could spend my weekend reading 3K+ posts just to most likely lose, or I can call this game what it was - a brief distraction from a busy work week that appears to have run its course.

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None of those games were nearly as long as this one. When I replaced in or even when they finished.

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What's a changeling

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Which I did and they were wrong

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Actually think I spent like an hour or so reading shit

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I think the prolonged paranoia is unnecessary. I don't enjoy it.

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I'm with Enchant, hinge the game on you. Re:questions, removing the mason through soliciting a claim and then dragging along the player with the least involvement and also the worst takes seems like a set-up. Could've been you or Enchant, though, because both Enchant and I weren't on Datisi's wagon but then Enchant was on SS's. Also, the decision to follow dead mason directions is a choice that could not be taken at any point, so I don't understand how no further play could affect it, but that's like a different conversation or something. It just doesn't make sense to me for mason to claim and I think that was done on purpose, but BOTH of you wanted it, which si weird.

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How would I have known?

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O nice

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I wanted to be the one to win the game with that moment of "O shit you're town" but it's not in the cards.

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Re:the not voting. I legit wanted to be like "not hammering" after a vote and watch the reaction

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Everyone. Remaining town player, dead thread. I need validation and praise in my life.

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There's nothing I actually need to do is there. Like the game's over for everyone but fire right?

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I did though. I fought against Datisi's wagon and then killed SS instead.

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O wait

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I meant I pushed the mason to claim so I knew who to kill

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O wait

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I say all this, but before you voted, I thought it was fire

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Really.

I don't want lose to Looker.
And you probably ALSO don't want to lose to Looker.

...again.
GG

I just spent four hours squeezing through underground caverns. No redactions to the wolf pt

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Also, I appreciate the resumption of flavor for me