Open 849 - Panic Room! -- Game over!

[Yeet]

VOTE: Andante

[Yeet]

I panik

[Yeet]

Wow it’s dead in here

[Yeet]

Get it

[Yeet]

Literally being gaslighted

[Yeet]

No reads from me yet

[Yeet]

Panik

[Yeet]

if any of you ever hear me say i want to play a Game of Mafia again beat me up

Sounds good, I'll be there.

[Yeet]

3 more to hammer Andante.

[Yeet]

VOTE: Roden sounds good to me.

[Yeet]

VOTE: Andante actually wait this ISO is worse.

[Yeet]

Time to panik Andante

[Yeet]

fire is town, Andante is scum, Prism is probably town but still ??? Umlaut is town

[Yeet]

VOTE: Andante actually wait this ISO is worse.

because

Noisy and postury with zero towntelling.

[Yeet]

Oh cool catboi is scum too.

[Yeet]

ok so do u wanna elaborate on any of htose or

pedit i think that that's how she towntells tho; the absence of that is when i become concerned ...

Maybe I need to interact with her or something to get any sort of towntell on her, idk. I don't see it right now and from a cursory reverse-ISO vibetest it feels like she's just trying to emulate her townself.

[Yeet]

skitter30 has not towntold yet but I don't expect her to so null
catboi is like leanscum
HEM is pretty null, it does actually feel like his towngame but at the same time it's not really.
Enchant feels null so he's probably slightly leanscum.
Ydrasse is null.
Roden is null.

[Yeet]

Umlaut fire
Prism
HEM Ydrasse Roden skitter
Enchant catboi
Andante

Okay there's my reads for now, I've basically solved the game.

[Yeet]

If Andante is town I'll probably see it eventually. I think fire is on the townier side.

[Yeet]

Classic wifom game with Roden.

[Yeet]

I like the don't post then when people complain about you not posting hit them with this "Oh yeah, I wouldn't do that as scum though".

[Yeet]

If Andante is town I'll probably see it eventually.

I think fire is on the townier side.

*why* though?

I like the intro posts of both slots.

[Yeet]

Well Bella's was the more AI one imo so lol.

[Yeet]

Okay skitter30 let's play this game, why do you want my head now?

[Yeet]

yeet what do you consider a towntell

Well generally if it's something that makes me think they're town I'd consider that a towntell

[Yeet]

yeah so can you just answer the question of what in bella's opening post made you think they were town?

Choice of townreads

[Yeet]

Oh I mean I can see why you thought it was scummy though actually so haha maybe I'll give you townpoints for that.

[Yeet]

Okay fine Andante is town I agree now.

[Yeet]

Fair enuf skitter, you win, you're always right

[Yeet]

VOTE: catboi goodbye scum

[Yeet]

Yeet, stop using random.org for reads

I would never

[Yeet]

Okay so if Enchant is scum my reads are great is what you're really saying here.

[Yeet]

' i saw bella's townreads and they made me townread her because ...'.replace('...','they were flippant controversial takes that are hard to explain and look weird')

[Yeet]

Okay so if Enchant is scum my reads are great is what you're really saying here.

Bruh

I mean why would you try to dissuade and gaslight me for bad reads if you knew my reads were totally trash

[Yeet]

Okay fine Andante is town I agree now.

Fair enuf skitter, you win, you're always right

???? why

Because Andante reacted to my push in a way I expected town!Andante to react.

[Yeet]

I think it's like insanely obvious I'm town here I really don't think any scum plays the way I am playing rn btw but I'm pretty biased haha.

[Yeet]

Well.. I’m pretty sure I have WHO Yeet is solved… ughhh no clue what my read there is then… I need to read between the 2 times I was here and figure out what my reads are, and the knowledge of who yeet is.. really isn’t something I wanted right now.. woooo ok.. i’m thinking just yeet fire then make reads

On one hand I'm curious if you actually know but I also don't really want you to spoil it if you do.

[Yeet]

Cool fireisred is still town.

[Yeet]

good talk. fire is still maf.

Did you expect me to respond within a span of 3 minutes

[Yeet]

What is even incredibly annoying about how I'm playing

[Yeet]

Yes, this assumes a lot and I'm seeing associatives/pre-flipping two people way too early. But their interactions don't feel natural. Fire's case on Yeet comes out too hard and too fast, and Yeet isn't reacting to any of it and is just repeating "Fire town" over and over.

I'm pretty sure if we really were partners we'd try to make a bigger show of it if you think that's the angle.

[Yeet]

I feel like Yeet is deliberately trying to play to a certain style and that'¢ why their posts seem so fake. I'd guess alt trying to play more flippantly or something like that. Not saying it makes them town but it makes them not someone you can scumread on tone

I am an alt but this isn't that different from how I play on my main. I'm not like deliberately trying to play a certain character or anything.

[Yeet]

I keep feeling like catboi has tmi on people

[Yeet]

Actually idk, maybe I'm jumping to conclusions

[Yeet]

I give lots of takes but don't explain all of them in depth. I think that's still better than someone who barely gives any takes and explains a similar number of them. A lot of it v i b e s and it's not necessarily meant to be persuasive to others.

[Yeet]

Guarantee you would not see this many takes from me as scum, I'd make sure I at least have some fake explanation in my mind for everything I say.

[Yeet]

yeet why do you think im town

I think your push on me feels organic. There's a lot of things going on in the word organic that I'm not really sure how to explain right now.

[Yeet]

I never implied it was his first game?

and what i meant is that i don't think this is like an inherent, typical playstyle for him. it feels way too forced, and designed to generate townreads for being kinda chaotic and all over the place

Yeah, well obviously I'm doing a really great job of that and emulating what people think of my townplay.

[Yeet]

This is just A+ scumplay from Yeet here

[Yeet]

You are thinking about this too hard fire. It's not that complicated, you overthink a lot imo

[Yeet]

You are thinking about this too hard fire. It's not that complicated, you overthink a lot imo

I do too to be fair, I don't mean that in a mean way sorry if it came off like that. You are obviously a much better and more thinking player than I am.

[Yeet]

I keep feeling like catboi has tmi on people

Based on...?

I already dropped it

[Yeet]

Just reading comprehension, I thought you said something and I had an impression that you had TMI on me and someone else, then I reskimmed your ISO afterwards to see if I could quote it, and found I was unable to find it. Hence my posts.

[Yeet]

You are thinking about this too hard fire. It's not that complicated, you overthink a lot imo

I do too to be fair, I don't mean that in a mean way sorry if it came off like that. You are obviously a much better and more thinking player than I am.

see it's stuff like this
a) i do overthink a lot, but i think it would be more overthinking for me to disregard my gut scumread due to it being too obvious or whatever
b) i don't think im a better player than you and i think the way you're not giving yourself credit here, assuming it wasn't sarcastic, feels forced and fake

What do you mean I'm not giving myself credit here? I don't think I'm a good player and I think you are, but that doesn't mean I won't give my opinion out in a confident way sometimes.

[Yeet]

a) i do overthink a lot, but i think it would be more overthinking for me to disregard my gut scumread due to it being too obvious or whatever

Yeah maybe that's fair.

[Yeet]

Well I do think fire is town so that is why I talked to him as if he were town.

[Yeet]

i think he came in expecting to be townread for their careless approach. it was so self-aware.

You are thinking about this too hard fire. It's not that complicated, you overthink a lot imo

this already assumes fire is town for some reason

Yes because the best way to get people to believe I am chaotic town is to tell people how aware I am of my own playstyle. You got me there

[Yeet]

Just reading comprehension, I thought you said something and I had an impression that you had TMI on me and someone else, then I reskimmed your ISO afterwards to see if I could quote it, and found I was unable to find it. Hence my posts.

Okay. I found that post especially bothersome given that I've expressed almost no reads to this point. You had also already stated a scumread on me prior to those posts, so I'm skeptical that that was a genuine thought.

Well I probably said that sort of out of confbias.

[Yeet]

yeet why do you think im town

I think your push on me feels organic. There's a lot of things going on in the word organic that I'm not really sure how to explain right now.

Fire, what do you think about this answer?

i don't think it's a very good answer. doesn't even make sense bc he townread me before I pushed him. and i don't know what about my push would look so organic that he would call me town that strongly for it

I explained why I thought your slots entrances looked good earlier too and then I reaffirmed you were town when you started pushing me. What is confusing you about my progression on you?

[Yeet]

it is also p much how i would expect scum to respond in this situation

which partly makes me feel weird about it bc it feels too obvious. like it's LHF or something. and that's why it's extra weird that he told me not to overthink bc when he said that i was in the process of overthinking my way out of the scumread. and now i don't know what to think

I think you should just think about how scum!me would approach that situation. Does scum!me get much out of playing the way I have been so far? And the reason why I feel I am obvious town to myself here is no. And I don’t think I could fake being this jumpy and chaotic as scum if I tried but clearly as you can see it’s not even doing well to get townreads. Now you could argue that I couldn’t have known that it would fail and that I was in too deep when people started scumreading me so I had to stick to it. I had a response in my head to that but that’ll have to come later it’s not coming off the top of my head

[Yeet]

is scum!yeet going to thrash and spew around in a quiet game?

Good observation.

[Yeet]

yeet why do you think im town

I think your push on me feels organic. There's a lot of things going on in the word organic that I'm not really sure how to explain right now.

tho this isn't really good

Okay cool there’s a lot of blanket shade on this post going around for some inexplicable reason ever since Roden brought it up. The only person who gave an actual explanation was fire. Just noting that.

[Yeet]

VOTE: humaneatingmonkey I think catboi can wait for now but I want to see what he does when he starts playing the game

[Yeet]

I highly doubt I actually end up going through today

[Yeet]

nah i dont buy umlaut's progression

umlaut in his first post makes a big deal about me being having pings on me being scum, and then stays on his Yeet vote because "he's ridiculous". yeet wasn't that too ridiculous and this could be scum tmi'ing each other.
then umlaut joins ydrasse's wagon, sweeping catboi on his gutread. then he soft-defends yeet.

what's he doing?

What do you mean by tmi’ing each other ?

[Yeet]

There are so many preflip associatives being done at this early in the game, idk how helpful any of it really is. Maybe it is bc we win if we hit bomb, idk, just pointing out that there is a lot of it. Scum also probably knows that town is going to look for noncontroversial slots for the bomb so I wouldn’t be surprised if they can pull the wifom card too.

[Yeet]

Someone asked if I’m 100% sure on fire being obvious town and the answer is he’s neither obvtown nor is he even close to 100%. And I don’t really get why this is being stuffed in my mouth. Yes I think he’s town but that doesn’t mean either of the above.

[Yeet]

Why

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Can we vote monkey then if so many people want to kill monkey?

[Yeet]

fire roden Andante umlaut
skitter Ari
catboi Ydrasse
Enchant
monkey

[Yeet]

actually skitter middle tier I guess

[Yeet]

i dont imagine roden/catboi and yeet to be s/s

how about T T T or S T T?

[Yeet]

HEM feels kinda weird this game, idk it’s sort of a vibe thing.

[Yeet]

Okay like everyone scumreads HEM and I am once again the only person voting him, very cool

[Yeet]

i’m like

the reason i asked yeet for the opinion and maybe i should wait to answer is

there’s everyone sitting here twiddling thumbs about hem’s weird vibes but then no one actually does anything about it so it’s like

???

i mean idk about anyone else but i think both yeet and monkey are scum. i could switch but i think the possibility of yeet scum monkey town is more likely than yeet town monkey scum

Is the only reason that you find my thoughts difficult to understand or something?

[Yeet]

Okay like everyone scumreads HEM and I am once again the only person voting him, very cool

what do you think that implies in the setup like this

I’m not really sure

I do have PTSD of scum being universally null scumread and absolutely nothing happening to them because people were focused on more loud polarizing town slots but idk if that means much here

[Yeet]

i’m like

the reason i asked yeet for the opinion and maybe i should wait to answer is

there’s everyone sitting here twiddling thumbs about hem’s weird vibes but then no one actually does anything about it so it’s like

???

i mean idk about anyone else but i think both yeet and monkey are scum. i could switch but i think the possibility of yeet scum monkey town is more likely than yeet town monkey scum

I bet other people are hiding under this excuse to vote me/someone else (like you) instead of their partner.

[Yeet]

i have a deadline so im probably not gonna be here until tomorrow or later

but w e i r d v i b e s is funny right now. as if the people saying these played extensively with me before. the people who have played with me before doesn't have these w e i r d v i b e s

i think they're using prism's initial take from early game and running with it.

anyone who says i have weird vibes is probably scum

Prism who? Didn’t read sorry

[Yeet]

Ok monkey like you seem more irrational and less inquisitive this game than I would expect. I don’t see you going after people and picking their brains bit by bit you just make a bunch of surface comments and crackpot theories and dip - which is fine in general but just not what I think you would do as town

[Yeet]

The day 1 herosolve attempts are going to make me lose my mind. I cannot emphasize enough that trying to worldbuild around elaborate theories is significantly more likely to be wrong and unhelpful than making more individualized reads.

Ari's herosolve reads like a bad joke which makes me doubt its sincerity.

I totally agree with this but unfortunately it doesn’t move my catboi read up

And also I’m probably going to make some crackpot bomb theories of my own at some point

But he’s still right

[Yeet]

Why you posting my face without permission.

“I’m in this picture and I don’t like it”

[Yeet]

hm

does the crackpot theory thing apply to me as well

I’ll forgive you if you vote monkey with me

[Yeet]

yeet why did your read flip on andante from top scum to in the top town group?

I just had to interact with her like one time to get the nostalgia flowing back into me

[Yeet]

Is the only reason that you find my thoughts difficult to understand or something?

you both sure like minimizing cases

no, not at all. i think your entrance was fake, and that you expected to get townread for it because that kind of chaotic, confident energy does get townread when it's genuine. the problem is that it doesn't feel genuine at all. and i don't really think it's a personality thing, either. your justifications for your townread on me also were questionable, same goes for your read on catboi. not much that you've done since then has changed my mind

Well that’s why I asked again

I don’t see any reason for me to try faking chaotic townie energy if it’s not my personality to do so like you say. Your narrative for scum!me doesn’t make sense. There are probably way easier ways to get townread

[Yeet]

I don’t even know what my read progression on catboi is and yet you’re scumreading me for it lol

[Yeet]

You’re right that I’m really had at scum. What made you think that?

And I would probably rather just lay low and be more stoic/outwardly logical if I was scum here. I wouldn’t try to fake something I feel uncomfortable about faking. Triply so if I’m the bomb

[Yeet]

Idk I just reskimmed monkey’s iso again and I’m definitely confbiasing here but the approach here is so wildly different to what I expect

[Yeet]

Okay fire I think you’re getting distracted on me rn which is affecting your solve and I want to convince you to vote for monkey instead. What can I do to make that happen sooner?

[Yeet]

Also like what is Enchant even doing? He usually has contributed a decent amount by this point as town.

I will be shocked if there’s no scum in Enchant, HEM

[Yeet]

Every time I am scum and Enchant is town he is obvtown from the very beginning

It’s different when he replaces in but he started in this game

[Yeet]

Ok monkey like you seem more irrational and less inquisitive this game than I would expect. I don’t see you going after people and picking their brains bit by bit you just make a bunch of surface comments and crackpot theories and dip - which is fine in general but just not what I think you would do as town

how am i irrational?? how are my theories crackpot?? how are my comments surface-level??

It is a comparison with what I would expect.

We all have crackpot theories and we’re all irrational to a degree. I don’t mean that in an offensive way.

[Yeet]

Every time I am scum and Enchant is town he is obvtown from the very beginning

uh can you talk about why you put in the conditional here of you being scum

Because I’m scum this game and so subconsciously those are the scenarios I care about.

[Yeet]

im carving time out of my work just to play this game despite being busy

how have i dipped??

I am as well.

“Dip” was not really part of the case against you, we all “dip” whenever we’re offline obviously. I just meant that I am seeing a lack of “insistent grilling/interrogating” on your end.

[Yeet]

Well clearly I’ve tilted monkey and I want to calm him down a bit regardless of our alignments so that’s maybe why it felt soothing.

[Yeet]

Every time I am scum and Enchant is town he is obvtown from the very beginning

uh can you talk about why you put in the conditional here of you being scum

Every time I am scum and Enchant is town he is obvtown from the very beginning

uh can you talk about why you put in the conditional here of you being scum

Because I’m scum this game and so subconsciously those are the scenarios I care about.

a sarcastic answer doesn't help, i want to know what you meant by that

I just thought it was an interesting data point fmpov. I don’t think I’ve actually been TvT with him from gamestart. I answered in that way because it felt like your angle was to get me to slip in that way.

[Yeet]

Well clearly I’ve tilted monkey and I want to calm him down a bit regardless of our alignments so that’s maybe why it felt soothing.

prepare to flip

I don’t really understand why you’re acting this way, this is a mafia game

[Yeet]

Okay fire I think you’re getting distracted on me rn which is affecting your solve and I want to convince you to vote for monkey instead. What can I do to make that happen sooner?

you can help convince me why scum monkey acts the way he does if both leading wagons are town, i guess. and also what you think scum would be doing in this game state, and who that's likely to be

Okay I will keep this in mind I guess. And I think you being up a good point that monkey possibly doesn’t need to act like this if we are both town so i might need to rethink that.

[Yeet]

Also this reaction from monkey is wildly unsettling in general

[Yeet]

That is E1 on me. The next vote is an automatic scumclaim that should be turbo yeeted tomorrow.

I will get to this later

[Yeet]

Great job idiot

[Yeet]

Nice playing this dumb game. Why even try

[Yeet]

Kill Enchant first thing tomorrow. HEM can grovel and apologize tomorrow and reevaluate on D3. I’m not sold on them scum

[Yeet]

That was such an absolutely ridiculous flashwagon.

[Yeet]

Because you’re going to get turboyeeted tomorrow. I don’t want any excuse about your meta. You’re scum and getting policía.

[Yeet]

If you’re town you just game threw.

[Yeet]

IM DEAD WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO SAY ????

[Yeet]

This town is completely destroyed. Turbo Enchant tomorrow and reevaluate closer on D3. Maybe use a little more brain In the future.

[Yeet]

Idk Umlaut might be scum too for that vote. One of the later votes has to be scum

[Yeet]

Oh it's over? Lol gg scum

[Yeet]

fire roden Andante umlaut
skitter Ari
catboi Ydrasse
Enchant
monkey

actually skitter middle tier I guess

So my D1 reads were very good this game for once and I get sent straight the grave, lmao

[Yeet]

Thanks for the mod Pav!