Open 847 - Trust Fall [Game Over]
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Pardon me while I switch my avatar to a spiderIn post 23, bugspray wrote:
antlers are sus. i think anyone with three or more eyes is very trustworthyIn post 16, tris wrote:who'se town
Nm spiders are scary-
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Well spotted, man
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In post 47, bugspray wrote:thanks
also that is not a misgendering because of the context of this conversation amd i get to say so because
1) it's the big leblowsky who mans everyone
2) i am an ordained priest in the church of the latter day dude
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The game is less than an hour old and we're talking about low activity?In post 59, chavela wrote:
like you are questioning enchant's lower activity this rvs rightIn post 58, chavela wrote:
? i think how you think about it now when trying to do so is potentially alignment indicative yesIn post 56, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Do you think asking me what i know about this setup is alignment indicative for me?
without considering if that would be more or less likely to be scum indicative here
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In post 61, bugspray wrote:i think limbait is a much smaller factor this game, instead of removing "weaker" players this setup seems to have an inherent tendency to remove "stronger" players who are able to determine others' alignments. consider the 4v2 yeetlo or the 3v1 yeetlo situations that will always happen here
So ... Are you suggesting somebody should trust the limbait early so as to not leave it until yeetlo?-
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In post 64, bugspray wrote:
ok byeIn post 63, NorwegianboyEE wrote:We can still do SOCIAL DISTANCING from those we deem enemies of the state.
Enchant just kinda always pings scummy to me, it's probably a personal failing on my endIn post 74, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Yes, i wanted to talk to them.In post 71, chavela wrote:
...In post 68, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It might if you had waited instead of immediately questioning the question.
infinitely less value in that then just engaging enchant on other subjects whenever the opportunity presents itself
like if you fear that enchant is going to have limited activity
then giving enchant the opportunity to burn that limited activity on talking to you about their limited activity is kinda ... !!! right
I feel Enchant would be an easy slot for me to read.
Like can u go 5 seconds without ranting about the seeming lack of logic behind my posts. I'm an completely illogical mad man u kno that right?-
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This is not a terrible strat for either alignment imoIn post 83, chavela wrote:like scum just need to get townread strongly by one person and get out yeah, to avoid having to really grind the game out,-
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To be clear I'm aware of the mechanics, but vote tags are not explicitly discussed in the setup so I wasn't sure if it would count or not and decided to err on the side of cautionIn post 92, Meuh wrote:
...In post 89, chavela wrote:
...In post 88, Meuh wrote:I think that's deserved for wanting to lim me
voting you would be offering a trust fall
there are not eliminations in this game
I'm aware.
He explicitly said he wanted to RVS me, though, so I assumed that meant the same kind of RVS as a regular game, and he forgot about the gameplay mechanic
I'm being hyperbolic, if it's unclear
My spiritual RVS is on Meuh though, but I will take your opening salvo to heart-
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I ship itIn post 99, NorwegianboyEE wrote:My goal is to find the scummiest player that is in reality town and trust them, then laugh at y'all.-
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I mean that if I could RVS I would put it on MeuhIn post 102, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
What is an spiritual RVS?In post 100, Pavowski wrote:My spiritual RVS is on Meuh though, but I will take your opening salvo to heart
Are you claiming to scum or townread them?
Not ready to declare a read there atm-
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Well damn, that's what I get for skimmingIn post 107, chavela wrote:
yes they are?In post 100, Pavowski wrote:To be clear I'm aware of the mechanics, but vote tags are not explicitly discussed in the setup so I wasn't sure if it would count or not and decided to err on the side of caution
vote tags are explicitly said to be counted as trusts
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Except for you, right?In post 155, Andante wrote:Trust. No. One. gg easy-
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You guys I did itIn post 158, Andante wrote:
Correct!! Only Andante is to be trusted!In post 157, Pavowski wrote:
Except for you, right?In post 155, Andante wrote:Trust. No. One. gg easy
I found town-
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Not sure if lamist or just perfectly reasonably distrustful of this enchant playIn post 172, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i suggest that everyone leaves Enchant and I in the game forever.
I have to think I would do the same but I probably wouldn't say the same-
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Your refusal of enchant's trust seems to suggest that you're not, but then you know this as you've lampshaded it alreadyIn post 197, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
am i scum pavowskiIn post 196, Pavowski wrote:Monkey: I should stay until the end of the game
Also Monkey: actually bugs let's you and me dip right now
Uh huh
And if you're scum with enchant you can't accept it anyway, but this seems like a problematic play if you are scum together
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Yeah no, I'm not ready to lock in yet and I have this funny feeling you might not reciprocateIn post 207, humaneatingmonkey wrote:trust me-
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LIFE is painfulIn post 212, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
rejection is painfulIn post 211, Pavowski wrote:Yeah no, I'm not ready to lock in yet and I have this funny feeling you might not reciprocate
Rejection is a part of life-
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But you're scummy thoIn post 213, Enchant wrote:
Trust me, piss off monke.In post 211, Pavowski wrote:
Yeah no, I'm not ready to lock in yet and I have this funny feeling you might not reciprocateIn post 207, humaneatingmonkey wrote:trust me-
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In post 271, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I like Pavowski and as soon as I figure out you're not scum, I'm gonna ask either of you to pair up. I'm not sure how I feel about the boy from Norway, still not sold on their towniness.
#TrustTheMonkey
I am going to do myself the favor of not thinking about why anybody would want to do thisIn post 295, Greeting wrote:@Prism
I have a question. Is it possible for more pairings to occur during twilight?-
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In the first I was gonna ask if you meant pair with each other but I don't think that's what you meant?In post 297, Pavowski wrote:In post 271, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I like Pavowski and as soon as I figure out you're not scum, I'm gonna ask either of you to pair up. I'm not sure how I feel about the boy from Norway, still not sold on their towniness.
#TrustTheMonkey
I am going to do myself the favor of not thinking about why anybody would want to do thisIn post 295, Greeting wrote:@Prism
I have a question. Is it possible for more pairings to occur during twilight?-
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Which strategies are weird?In post 317, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Ok, weird strategies. No i can’t.
C'mon man. At least give some reads or impressions-
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I don't get any overtly scummy pings from bugs, which is interesting because in our last game together (micro 1042) I sorta gathered that this was a player who generated scum pings but I still read them correctly as town.
That was convoluted but
I think I have a decent chance of correctly reading bugs as time goes on and I have no reason to scumread there so far-
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This is facts, we have decent info on enchant despite the tiny iso thanks to the yolo trust and on monkey, and chav is posting it up... But need much more from some others if we're to do this rightIn post 320, bugspray wrote:alright so we don't triangle that is fine. chaevla is right that we should focus on getting more content from more people so that town people are more yeetable-
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Is this sarcasm, it feels like sarcasmIn post 324, bugspray wrote:saying that lurking is towny makes it not towny anymore because it suddenly becomes a publicly known wifom good job dude-
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Not going to dive too far into Monkey/Chav except to say it gives me some +Chav vibes and some -Monkey vibes
Tonally Chav is consistent and the resistance/paranoia around Monkey feels fine
Monkey seems fixated on this slot above several others ... maybe it's because Chav is engaging more than most (and they do seem to have history)
But fixating on one slot kinda ... doesn't make sense as a town play
Like, Monkey has stated intent to stay on the island as designated solver, so, why so determined to get a townread from Chav?
Motivation as scum makes more sense here ... like ... I could see the scumchat saying "If I can pocket Chav that would set up x, y, and z"
That being said I still lean towny on Monkey from general play and I'm feeling pretty towny on Chav too-
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HEM said they should do this at start of day 2, when either one can place a new trust.In post 560, chavela wrote:
oh good call lolIn post 558, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also how, Bugspray and Enchant has both already placed their trust vote.
Hi I'm back from work. There's content. I'ma try to sort thru it.-
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Could Norwee / Chav give some reasons for townreading Meuh?
I see this:
But I think this is pretty thin and calling it "really good" is a stretchIn post 529, chavela wrote:
i start to get slightly paranoid of meuh at times but then posts like this are like,In post 483, Meuh wrote:I guess Chav could always be deepwolfing to advance mafia’s goals but I doubt it. If that’d be the case I’d assume her partner is more of a lurker
really good right
because it seems to be trying to fill in all of the possible narratives
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Like why though. To scum test Meuh? Or do you think this is a good pairing?
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Ok I thought I remembered you saying you liked some of her posts. Let me ask instead of inferringIn post 572, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
I don't think i've said i townread them.In post 569, Pavowski wrote:Could Norwee / Chav give some reasons for townreading Meuh?
How do you feel about Meuh?
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I don't love speaking for other people but Monkey has already expressed the feeling that nobody should fall with Enchant except for Bugs (which I will editorialize to say I think he's only saying because he thinks it can't happen)In post 602, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
So any thoughts on this?In post 587, NorwegianboyEE wrote:So imo HumanEatingMonkey, you should accept Enchant proposal.
If you don’t want to because you don’t trust em, then let’s talk about that.-
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The game is in fact called trust fall, my dude, one of us has to take the leap first and I'm not convinced of your towniness atp, and you seeking a quick exit doesn't help the caseIn post 618, Andante wrote:Pav, why would I trust you if you have no intentions of trusting me back? we only get 1 trust... we need that person to trust us back yes? so you just want me to waste it?-
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There was no follow up, I was checking the thread quicklike at work... Be home in a bitIn post 674, Ydrasse wrote:
i didn’t ignore this hi either i read it but was waiting for follow upIn post 660, Pavowski wrote:Oh Andante replaced. Hi Ydrasse-
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I like this one from chavchavela wrote:though meuh's post does make a weird assumption of
the mafia leaving the game in general
and kinda has that time traveler element to it
of almost looking back at actions
as step by step later is better than sooner
because! later could become never but sooner cannot if it has already happened
Last time I played this, scum won in a flawless victory. Two relatively quick exits.
Going deep is not required in this setup and patience will pay off for town, especially if we get a few good trusts done. Diminishing options will create the pressure on scum-
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