Open 847 - Trust Fall [Game Over]

[NorwegianboyEE]

Now now get in line everyone, i know you're all so very eager to trust me but i can only accept one. Gosh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hi Norwee, are you town this time?

Always has been.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Prism told Enchant that in game thread instead of in in a scum thread.
Enchant confirmed town ez.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Prism told Enchant that in game thread instead of in in a scum thread.
Enchant confirmed town ez.

? could we explain the thought process here please

M O D I N T E R F E R E N C E

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh no they are on to me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

who thinks im scum

I do.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh no they are on to me.

...

are you just not going to explain why you had that thought though

Making fun of the moderator and calling any post they make, game interference is hilarious.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i guess i do not get it

that bad joke doesn't get to come on the train imo

What train

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ah yes, now i understand perfectly.

(i don't)

[NorwegianboyEE]

Enchant you were much more active in RVS during our previous game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Enchant you were much more active in RVS during our previous game.

do you think being more active than usual in trust fall would be town indicative?

I've never played trust fall before.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No idea.
I haven't even read any previous games on this except for that meme one where scum just asked someone to trust them in page 1 and they did.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Do you think asking me what i know about this setup is alignment indicative for me?

[NorwegianboyEE]

My thinking is that Enchant is an player that thinks of themselves as limbait, but they were very active in day 1 RVS in a previous game as a town player. So my thinking is that scum!Enchant would be much less active because they would be afraid to talk as they see their own posts as their worst enemy. And thus would try to limit their early influence until they get an better footing in the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

We can still do SOCIAL DISTANCING from those we deem enemies of the state.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That's not very nice.

[NorwegianboyEE]

My thinking is that Enchant is an player that thinks of themselves as limbait, but they were very active in day 1 RVS in a previous game as a town player. So my thinking is that scum!Enchant would be much less active because they would be afraid to talk as they see their own posts as their worst enemy. And thus would try to limit their early influence until they get an better footing in the game.

hmhmhm,

it is like, i can kinda this thought process but i also don't really see how engaging enchant about enchant's lack of activity in rvs leads to solving the quandary when could engage enchant about anything right

It might if you had waited instead of immediately questioning the question.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok so Shiki=Chavela?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Bugspray i feel has that weird aggressive energy but idk if that's trustworthy or not.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It might if you had waited instead of immediately questioning the question.

...

infinitely less value in that then just engaging enchant on other subjects whenever the opportunity presents itself

like if you fear that enchant is going to have limited activity

then giving enchant the opportunity to burn that limited activity on talking to you about their limited activity is kinda ... !!! right

Yes, i wanted to talk to them.
I feel Enchant would be an easy slot for me to read.
Like can u go 5 seconds without ranting about the seeming lack of logic behind my posts. I'm an completely illogical mad man u kno that right?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Right now i'm feeling like Chavela has some solvey energy while Bugspray just gives me angry scum vibes.
Big difference between genuinely asking stuff and tryin to turn anything you see into a big gotcha so can look good themselves, yuck.

[NorwegianboyEE]

"oh, I'm scum, let's just post less"

hello!

do you not think that scum might think 'oh i'm scum, i need to post more' here though?

and what do you think about norwegianboyee seemingly not considering this?

The difference is that an confident player will think this.
But an unconfident one will want to try to only say townie things, thus make less posts because they hate being risky due to fear of outing their own scumminess.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Meuh is rly good at scum i think. I think i vaguely remember last game we were in they sounded very townie but was mafia.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Meuh is rly good at scum i think. I think i vaguely remember last game we were in they sounded very townie but was mafia.

You're misremembering, I was widely townread, but was also town, marci was the one who managed to sneak under our radar

My only scum game ended up with me being limmed day 1 after slipping

Hmm ok so maybe i was just very paranoid of you, and thus wrongly assumed you just were scum based on memory. Lol.

[NorwegianboyEE]

My goal is to find the scummiest player that is in reality town and trust them, then laugh at y'all.

[NorwegianboyEE]

My spiritual RVS is on Meuh though, but I will take your opening salvo to heart

What is an spiritual RVS?
Are you claiming to scum or townread them?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh so it's meaningless, ok.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Know what is cool about this setup i just realized.
I literally don’t need to care about what the majority thinks.
WOOO

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes i think Enchant would.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Know what is cool about this setup i just realized.
I literally don’t need to care about what the majority thinks.
WOOO

this is not good in general and leads to towns throwing and/or many frustrated players

Ok dad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

alright so there's ten of us what if nobody ever trusts anybody and we just take turn modding marathon micros in here?

R u trying to lamist.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Know what is cool about this setup i just realized.
I literally don’t need to care about what the majority thinks.
WOOO

this is not good in general and leads to towns throwing and/or many frustrated players

Ok dad.

but also if you want to see what happens when you do exactly this

look at dkkoba's play in the trust fall tris moderated (i am 90% sure it was that one at least)

I was just kidding.
But i have been a very typical rebel player in many previous games just FYI.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh hey HEM! You’re from the nightless by NSG!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee's scummy!

Why

[NorwegianboyEE]

Accept my love.

Trust: Humaneatingmonkey

So why them?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee didn't you call me a scummy gotcha fisher?

Yes i did.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Accept my love.

Trust: Humaneatingmonkey

So why them?

This is gotcha fishing

No, it’s asking for reasoning behind their vote because i want to know what they are thinking.
Ironically you are doing what you accuse me off again.

[NorwegianboyEE]

bugspray are you willing to exit the game with me? if it's true that i'm scum with enchant, you shouldn't have any problem exiting with me because it would confirm that enchant is scum with me = game over.

Pretty sure there are a lot more possible worlds to consider than just that tbh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

when you leave out important posts that support my argument, i really feel like you're not listening to me and you don't care about me

You dumped our eternal love after half of hour, jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

HEM is an terrible partner to toy with your pure and innocent emotions like that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

trust me

Would you trust me?
^3^

[NorwegianboyEE]

mmm i really should not join any more games of this setup

Why so?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Prob an towntell from Chavela how they can't solve like they want in this setup. That sort of annoyance is unlikely to come from scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

chavela if you trust me i will walk out in this game with you

No you're 2 obvious.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Chavela you should pair with me, i'm much more moe.

[NorwegianboyEE]

chavela if you trust me i will walk out in this game with you

No you're 2 obvious.

thoughts on enchant?

Slightly +scum that hey haven't explained their reasoning for wanting to pair with HEM.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like what seems the optimal play here is to explain ones reasoning for wanting to pair with an particular individual and then trusting them, Enchant haven't even bothered to put up an facade of doing that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

U giving me major chills right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This is what i feel is happening right now:

- Scum PT -
HEM: Shit Enchant, we screwed up with our strategy of you faking trust and me voicing paranoia about it, let's just both spam as much as possible.
Enchant: You got it bub, i'm a master of spamming posts and making a lot of noise in the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s like the Goebbels art of propaganda.
As long as you repeat an big lie for long enough it becomes the truth in the hearts of men.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Boy from Norway, do you even scum read me?

More that i really hated what you were doing, but then your later posts looked better.
Close to null right now, can see u go both ways.

[NorwegianboyEE]

In simple words: chavela thinks we can't cope without his wisdom, so it's not worth leaving and winning.

no? more that there are benefits to pairing later rather than sooner if you strongly believe someone to be town,

the leaving and winning is literally only true for scums - towns have to get at least six towns out

whereas as scum i would just leave

like if humaneatingmonkey is town, do you think i as scum would have the same approach here?

One question tho, i'm pretty certain that the later a scum player get's paired the more informative it will be, so if we pair a scum early then we get much less info from the flip and a higher chance at losing later as an result.
So that means it is important for town to get town paired early on, and if a scum get's paired later that is more manageable as the second scum can be caught out or PoE'd from association tells.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So i'm a bit sus of pairing players like Enchant that have not behaved townie whatsoever because if they flip scum then all we can do is give a big shrug, and tbh it goes both ways too. If he's town it's not gonna help me, it's not informative. It's just a big old "whatever".

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ugh i’m so annoyed by another game i was in, but let’s see if i can focus on this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok, weird strategies. No i can’t.

[NorwegianboyEE]

the biggest problem is that people are disagreeing on an individualist or collectivist solution to the problem that this setup poses and people are just scumreading each other for it

Individualist Norwee here.

And it is not allignment indicative!

[NorwegianboyEE]

you know i do not work this way

like c'mon

i know but give me your version i guess. it's very hard to parse what you really think, because just moments ago, i thought you were townreading me.

I like this Chavela/HEM drama.
Not as in i’m an sadist that enjoys suffering, but as in i think this will help my reads as it appears genuine.

[NorwegianboyEE]

like if you really want a readslist it'd be something like

meuh
norwegianboy
pav

tris, greeting

humaneatingmonkey

andante, bugspray

enchant

Wait you townread me?
I did not get that impression at all.

[NorwegianboyEE]

okay let's talk about why they're tiered that way

shiki is already uncomfortable making tierlist in the first place can you fuck off with this neurotypical bullshit? not everyone thinks about thinks the same way as you

What is neurotypical? Never heard that before.

[NorwegianboyEE]

you currently think i am one of the very most likely mafias? even though you think i would be playing impressively if mafia, and! my play does not resemble any of my past play as mafia to you? and! there isn't something i've done you felt was +mafia just that you think everything i've done is 'within my range' which in this case based on your stated view of me when you entered i am assuming is near infinite, so mostly it is just, scum because could be scum because can always be scum, which, like, ...

(i am assuming enchant would be at the bottom even though you failed to list enchant? which is probably +partner in a vacuum)

yeah i didn't list enchant i forgot to bring them in their own tier (the bottom)

i can't explain it yet but the mood shift you had from pages ago when you declared you would want to stay in the game to solve it and that you don't think mechanical play is the way, then the incongruence when you became upset that i wouldn't trust you and advance the game mechanically... is noteworthy.

also yes, i think you're one of the most likely mafias thus far.

*Stock puke sound effect*
Why are they the most likely mafia by far?
R u just bad and scumsiding or genuinely scum? (Yep, NSG’s game came into mind just now)

[NorwegianboyEE]

behind bugspray, of course.

bugspray has hit several scum pings from me since early game.

oh, and i'm not pulling #385 out of my ass. bugspray has used progressive activist pressure to advance in the game before.
see here when i was their partner before. the tactic was they would call me out for misgendering so we can have negative scum equity.

also, bugspray does gotcha moves as scum. he did that against boy from norway.

not really seeing them trying to solve the game, as well.

Not sure i get this progressive activist pressure thing, but i can agree that Bugspray has not felt townie this game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

damn it's really hard to actuall yget good reads on people this game because town and scum have the same goal

This post felt very lamist.

[NorwegianboyEE]

what's so bad about it

I think they have been pretty obviously town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No i just think your reasoning for scumreading them is bad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

how does being scumread stop your goal of staying in the game for longer and solving the game?

because i become less useful when i am frustrated?

and! it becomes less enjoyable for me

when i am frustrated?

like i said when i said maybe i just find a town

This frustration is town indicative, but it’s just one of the many towntells he’s shown off so far.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like the logic in their posts don’t matter, you can just tell from their tone that it’s town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

would you trust her?

I would trust them, yes.
But i’m not gonna trust them as i want to get a somewhat decent image of most slots before deciding on a trust.

[NorwegianboyEE]

alright i hope this helps
HEAL: chevre
[/vote]chevre[/vote]

I trust chevre.

It does help in confirming my read on them but making me more paranoid about u, yes.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hot take, HEM/Chavela town.
Bugspray scummy?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh and Enchant too is an annoying slot. Sigh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

WOW

Trusting In Trusting Game.

So scum.

Annoying because they are the scummiest play in history, but i could see them playing like this as town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Could Greeting and Tris come in here and towntell or scumtell plz, thanks.
Oh and idk if i trust Meuh yet, they feel smooth and make nice beautiful thesaurus posts, but are we actually sure they are town indicative and not just pretty?

[NorwegianboyEE]

WOW

Trusting In Trusting Game.

So scum.

Annoying because they are the scummiest play in history, but i could see them playing like this as town.

Trusting townreads is not scummiest play in history.

U so scummy that not even the biggest high school bully wanna pick on you, cus they will feel like they attacking low hanging fruit.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because you instatrusted someone that could easily have been scum. Doh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Even so i still feel like you could be town, and that makes me mad. :/

[NorwegianboyEE]

I love fast paced games, i can't really stand still for 5 days.

Risk was not big anyway.

why did you decide that the risk was not big?

2/9

I AM RUSSIAN RULETTE CHAMPION.

Would you accepy if someone else trusted you today?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Who do you scumread?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Will it help if i make fun of u more

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well i can call you an ape.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The word gotcha is starting to lose all meaning after this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

norwee what the fuck is hem talking about

They saying that they think you are scum i believe.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ur weird.

[NorwegianboyEE]

like it is much much harder for a mafia to fool a collective town than to fool a single player

But what if more people= dumber

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh i just realized something, this game is sort of similar to purgatory, i've been scum there once. There was a very specific strategy we used there to get townread i remember. So if i see that in this game i'll be sure to point it out.
I won't say it though, cus that will make scum aware of it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I guess Chav could always be deepwolfing to advance mafia’s goals but I doubt it. If that’d be the case I’d assume her partner is more of a lurker

i start to get slightly paranoid of meuh at times but then posts like this are like,

really good right

because it seems to be trying to fill in all of the possible narratives

while also weighing the likelihood of those narratives at the same time

Um, i don't see why that is so very good.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Um, i don't see why that is so very good.

do you often see mafia doing that? if so could you show me examples please

Yes, i have met players like Marcistar that break my heart and turn out to be scum even though they enticed me with their sweet and pure posts.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You know i feel a really strong urge to yolo trust Enchant right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Um, i don't see why that is so very good.

do you often see mafia doing that? if so could you show me examples please

Yes, i have met players like Marcistar that break my heart and turn out to be scum even though they enticed me with their sweet and pure posts.

i do not think i have seen marcistar lay out possible narratives in this way and then weigh them

but also i think i've only seen two marcistar mafia games

well could be deepwolfing > if so likely partnered with lurker (which is solid logic as it'd be assumed i would escape unless i felt partner would not get out if i left) > but overall unlikely

is just not something i see mafia doing a lot

i can't really say never but to me it's a pretty towny thought process that just feels a to b to c right

It's so easy to say that 'widely townread player' is 'town because of x'
v_v

I think we are going to inherently disagree with each other on this tho, so not point in us trying to convince each other.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Let's not make that happen.

[NorwegianboyEE]

bugspray x enchant
let's make it happen
#EnSpray

Also how, Bugspray and Enchant has both already placed their trust vote.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can't you just take Enchant with you and leave as lovers.
Two flies in one swoop.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Probably not and stupid rule then.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Probably not and stupid rule then.

It's stupid, now i dying from boredom.

oh no...

[NorwegianboyEE]

Could Norwee / Chav give some reasons for townreading Meuh?

I don't think i've said i townread them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Could Norwee / Chav give some reasons for townreading Meuh?

I don't think i've said i townread them.

Ok I thought I remembered you saying you liked some of her posts. Let me ask instead of inferring

How do you feel about Meuh?

How are you reading Greeting, while we're at it?

Then you probably misunderstood me, because what i’m saying is that i get an uncanny vibe from Meu’s posts. And i dot see a reason to townread them yet.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Greeting i just don’t know yet.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Although from just reading their ISO and checking the chacra mood in the air, my guess is they r town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So the slots i explicitly do not townread are as follows:
Meuh/Andante/Tris/bugspray
(Not that i scumread all these slots. I just don’t townread them.)
Andante/Tris i just need more content from. Andante has posted but i don’t remember their posts.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can we all suggest an day 1 pairing we’d like to see atm.
I’m personally for an Enchant/HEM team cus i think they town but should leave early.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Or pairing i mean.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I want Shiki and Meuh etc to stay in the game. First because i think it’s good to have an rational voice longer into the game and second cus i’m paranoid as fuck about them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Paranoid about Meuh* Not Shiki

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Enchant stays for D2 they might lolvote a scum player and i don’t feel they will be very helpful, HEM might become the town voice for scum cus he saying dumb things like Enchant/Bugspray should pair.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So imo HumanEatingMonkey, you should accept Enchant proposal.
If you don’t want to because you don’t trust em, then let’s talk about that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

But i’ve given the slot some thought and i am pretty sure it flips town here, and i think ur town as well.
Perfect first pairing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I am worried Meuh is a wolf, so i’ll share my very worried reservations about your decision to potentially trust them.
But it’s not like i can stop you if you do it anyway.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I really want them to be a slot that stays longer just so i can be more sure on them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I would probably not accept it.
I’ve spontaneously decided that i want to stay in this game for longer and not leave early.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I do believe you are more likely town so it wouldn’t be an lack of trust reject.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So imo HumanEatingMonkey, you should accept Enchant proposal.
If you don’t want to because you don’t trust em, then let’s talk about that.

So any thoughts on this?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm asking more ppl than just u

[NorwegianboyEE]

The world doesn't revolve around Enchant!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Pavowski can I just trust you and you trust me? lol cause I think you're town, Norwee seems a little off to me, but other than that I don't really have reads, nor have I read much lol

And why is that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You haven't read anything but i'm off? U sketchy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

know what, whatever, maybe I'll see yall tomorrow, I'm not doing this right now
@mafia, feel free to trust me while I'm gone, I'll auto trust you back if you're not chav or norwee

You ever gonna explain what about me is off or just say that’s an read you apparently have and we need to take your word for it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

know what, whatever, maybe I'll see yall tomorrow, I'm not doing this right now
@mafia, feel free to trust me while I'm gone, I'll auto trust you back if you're not chav or norwee

What on earth makes u think i would trust you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok i just replied to the same post with 30 minutes interval, but that probably shows how much their entrance just now bothered me. Lmao.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The problem is that even if you are town then i am obliged to scumread you to limit the power of your anti-town play, because you are shading me Andante. And now for reasons i cannot argue with, so my only choice is to make sure your damage doesn't go beyond what u already done.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok i feel like i'm becoming annoying.

Time for an obligatory break period!

[NorwegianboyEE]

I was already saying Enchant is town tho.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also hi Ydrasse.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think Andante may have been town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is getting out today important to you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is getting out today important to you?

No, but getting out eventually with someone whom I am very sure (ideally 100%) is town is my priority for town to win the game. The way I see it, 7 to 8 townies have an individual task to do and I’m trying to do mine.

It is also extremely important for me not to waste my vote or throw it around because I have only one per day.

If no one whom I think is worthy of a trust offer is willing to reciprocate then there is no point in me making any offers for the sake of it. They will change nothing. I have to either change my mind about someone else or wait for one player I trust to trust me back.

Ok that makes sense.

[NorwegianboyEE]

though meuh's post does make a weird assumption of

the mafia leaving the game in general

and kinda has that time traveler element to it

of almost looking back at actions

as step by step later is better than sooner

because! later could become never but sooner cannot if it has already happened

Hanging out with you when high must be fun.
I just wanna get drunk and discuss philosophy with you yo.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If that is referring to me then i can say with certainty that i as scum would not pick fights with someone i’d read as an highly capable town and suggest they should not be trusted.
I’d much prefer when playing this as scum to sort them as an slot that needs to be pocketed or to avoid confronting. Certainly not "make Chavela think they are not to be trusted"
My previous game with them i think i also voiced big concerns on Meuh. Now you could point this as an reason for me to assume that i am wrongly being paranoid about town!Meuh again for no reason. But that is not the point, it’s that i believe Meuh would be capable of emulating their town play at an high level as mafia. Because they strike me as that sort of tempered, highly professional player.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If i’m wrong there then Meuh is free to make their case of why. But i was always going to voice this paranoia nonetheless.

[NorwegianboyEE]

How much experience off-site if i may ask?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also i just realized how annoying it could be to have a scumread in this game.
You basically just have to let them hang around and hope no town accepts or tries to trust them. And if you ever get out of game yourself then they might fool other players that aren’t you. -_-

[NorwegianboyEE]

after reading 4 pages I am almost certain norwegian+pavowski is the solve

How possible is Meuh/Paw
Remember you’re the player that trusts people like scum!Prism easily.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I really don't see how this could be town!him

Ok.
But it is sooo.
You want like to discuss this or sumthing?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m just gonna ignore Kuriyama’s every point on me k.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Meuh’s long ass explanation of: "Yes scum wants to shade me here, we’ll become the best endgame team ifcwe just townread each other, oh my god scum wants to shade us! They hate us!! That’s why you need to trust meeee!
Doesn’t boost my townread on them, quite the opposite. They aren’t solving, just posting manipulative nonsense.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ve historically had a very high probability of meltdowns and becoming increasingly toxic when dealing with players like Kuriyama that cannot be reasoned with because they are 2 convinced and tunneled.
So for the sake of game integrity and my own sanity i will limit my interaction with them as much as possible.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I hope it’s not scum because that would make it incredibly difficult for me to deal with. I don’t handle FL style pushes well.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually screw it i don’t have the patience to deal with a game that has this type of player.
I can already see their reply: "Yes this is exactly how scum!Norwee replies, i know his play blah blah."
Fuck this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Overall, on the moderation side, I was pretty happy with this game minus the one replacement spree.

Thanks to everyone who stuck around, and of course thanks to Ydrasse, Kuriyama, and the worst for saving the day with the replacements. I hope you all enjoyed it!

I was very concerned by the discourse between HEM and bugspray early - both in the level of language and in the accusations being levied. It shot my anxiety through the roof when HEM pulled out receipts showing bugspray previously utilized similar behavior to further a wincon, but things fortunately fizzled out.

While I think players should put a premium on their own well-being, I was not happy to see the NorwegianboyEE replace out. Kuriyama stuck to critiquing play and was never even close to out of bounds. It virtually cleared the slot. Seeing them complain about Kuriyama's read on me in Divide & Conquer was also puzzling considering Norwegian went 0/2 for the entire 3 days they were alive, and actively discouraged scumreads on me, while I instantly killed Kuriyama N1 after already cashing in a giant horde of meta for a single-day townread.

Ever since TM 2021 anime theme i’ve valued my own enjoyment while in the game more than anything else.
If i stop having fun i’m out. Like however you perceived Kuriyama’s "logical" scumread of my slot. It stressed me out so hard i felt no more joy in the thought of continuing playing.
That’s just how it is. I don’t keep playing when i know it will feel awful to do so.
Gg town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like you could almost say i get PTSD attacks from that game at this point.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t think i wrecked the game for the scum team with my rep out as you could argue it was for many reasons. Though repouts aren’t supposed to be discussed at all and treated like they don’t exist according to new rules so heck if i know how they impact the games, as the moderator team does not seem to even want the players to acknowledge that they happen and why.
Anyways, I lost my cool and felt like i would become real toxic if i were forced to contend with Kuriyama further. You could argue this was me imposing an quarantine on myself for the sake of the games best interests in mind.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Scum could in theory have argued that this was me repping out because i got caught as scum and ragequit.
I don’t think i made anyones position untenable here. And Duck was himself scumread pretty heavily at some point.
Scum by nature has to be flexible and adapt to new situations. You can certainly say that an replacement might have made the game harder for them, but to put blame on an person replacing out for changing the course of the game is something i take issues with.