Open 807 | Town Win

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VOTE: Not Mafia

Obvious reasons

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I hate day one that’s why I don’t post much I read though but don’t feel like I have anything worth posting or anything

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I hate day one that’s why I don’t post much I read though but don’t feel like I have anything worth posting or anything

What does your ideal d1 look like? We elim N_M on page three?

Well no I didn’t say that. I vote for who I think should be eliminated and then I just follow the day as it goes on

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I hate day one that’s why I don’t post much I read though but don’t feel like I have anything worth posting or anything

What does your ideal d1 look like? We elim N_M on page three?

Pengy and I are masons.

if you come after us I will end you.

Why claim something that isn’t possible?

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Not_Mafia is generally known for lurking, not really posting anything game relevant when he does post beyond a vote, never explaining anything and quick hammering anything that reaches e-1.

i would prefer the person i asked to be the one to answer the question but thank you

I just feel it’s anti town to vote as soon as they see someone at E-1 and if the player at E-1 hasn’t claimed and flips PR NM doesn’t even get looked into as hard as someone else who hammered would be

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Not_Mafia is generally known for lurking, not really posting anything game relevant when he does post beyond a vote, never explaining anything and quick hammering anything that reaches e-1.

i would prefer the person i asked to be the one to answer the question but thank you

If you're gonna take claim, at least make it believable

what do you think they are hoping to accomplish by pretending to be masons?

Probably confuse everyone cause that’s all they are re doing to me as I don’t understand the need to claim a role that is impossible in this setup?

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im a wolf

Isnt wolf another word for scum? If so that’s a very open scum claim

VC 1.10

Not voting (3):

Scipio1, Something_Smart, implosion

Scipio1 (1):

Dunnstral

Not_Mafia (1):

Minimegabyte

implosion (3):

PenguinPower, Save The Dragons, PookyTheMagicalBear

Dunnstral (1):

Salsabil Faria

Battle Mage (1):

Artemiana

Save The Dragons (1):

Battle Mage

PookyTheMagicalBear (2):

Almost50, Not_Mafia

(expired on 2021-03-24 08:06:31) until deadline

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im a wolf

Penguins and Bears are natural hunters.

Our predatory instincts honed over centuries of evolution.

We don't need "reads"

We kill bad guys like you putting on pants when you wake up.

Just comes naturally.

I don’t like the comment of you not needing reads.

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Well that last quote stuffed up some how

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VOTE: MiniMegabyte

I don't like any of these last posts.

Not_Mafia is generally known for lurking, not really posting anything game relevant when he does post beyond a vote, never explaining anything and quick hammering anything that reaches e-1.

i would prefer the person i asked to be the one to answer the question but thank you

If you're gonna take claim, at least make it believable

what do you think they are hoping to accomplish by pretending to be masons?

Probably confuse everyone cause that’s all they are re doing to me as I don’t understand the need to claim a role that is impossible in this setup?

do you see a world where both are town and pretending to be masons?

Honestly I don’t know like if they are both town what’s the point in claiming something that’s impossible just makes no sense to me. They don’t only claim it but keep it going

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I honestly don’t know because if they are scum isn’t that a bit too obvious?

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Mini understands why Pengy and I are masons


Pengy have you gotten what you needed from imploscum?

Where on earth did I say I understand???? I keep saying I’m confused

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Like, seriously.. SIX players have posted less than N_M??

Why is that something worth mentioning

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@mod V/LA for 24 hours as starting new job is stressful

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VOTE: MiniMegabyte

I think this hits scum decently often.

Well sorry to disappoint ya then because I ain't scum here

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I think we should take care of them and MiniMegabyte, I don't have a preference between the two

Why specifically the two of us?

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VOTE: MiniMegabyte

I think this hits scum decently often.

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

And Dunn is responding. My solve is Dunn is the other Mafioso (main) and implo is the Traitor. Piece if cake.

Why do you seem so certain on them being the last mafia? I don't like how confident you are here

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Got any reads, Mini?

Im not really one for putting reads directly out there however if I see something worth mentioning I do that instead.
If you would rather a reads list I am sure I can put one together for you

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I’ve skimmed the last few pages and see I have questions thrown my way. I am at work right now and will catch up and answer everything when I get home

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Alright home now so will catch up and answer everything as promised

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there is no reason for me to think you two are town.

Is there any reason to think one or both of us are scum?

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Both off wagon and looking

What about Something SMart and Implosion? They are both off wagon too so not a valid point

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@Mini who is the scummiest to you rn?

At this point I would have to say Dunnstral

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in hindsight, i think it's likely that penguin hid behind n_m after crumbing it

I cant seem to see that crumb am I blind or is it relatively hard to spot?

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we are definitely going off-wagon for the elim today.

Pooky wants to look off wagon seems fine

Both off wagon

Putting this in a way that says you want to look off wagon too... not long after Pooky too seems a little strange

i'd like to go off wagon today

And the third person to say to look off wagon...

Soemthing isn't making me feel good here something definitely ain't right

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could be Mini-scum. but wouldn't Mini power up the partner?

You are definitely right there as I would not be able to handle that. As scum I am majority of the time eliminated early

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obviously people offwagon are scummier today than yesterday which is why mini and dunnstral are top of my limpool

Why when we arent the only ones off wagon???

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: if you were scum here, what power roles do you think you'd have picked, and why?

Looking at the list of roles it would have to probably be Role-Cop and Encryptor.

Role-Cop as Town PRs would need to be found in order to have a more successful game
Encryptor as I am one to know exactly what happening in my teams minds all throughout the game instead of just at night - I prefer to be prepared as scum

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I think they absolutely could decide to take no PRs!

Do you know them both well? You've implied so far that you don't, so I'm struggling to buy this.

yikes

What is the point of this post?

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It's less about knowing them (I do know both of them at least some, though not from playing games with them) and more about not believing that whether they'd pick PRs is something that can be confidently sussed out by knowing personalities, especially when it's the kind of thing scum could be liable to think twice on.

I'm also barely "tunneling" Mini; I was asked to case her, I cased her, she literally hasn't posted since then. It's been like two hours.

I've been defending Mini pretty hard, and you've been resolute nonetheless, despite warm words. So I'd say you're tunnelling. You haven't given any impression of looking at others for an elim today, as I had suggested.

Probably because I am just too easy and they need more time to try and case others

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Well, I think the two of you are more likely. I don't really think it's S_S after some stuff he said near the end of the last day.

What about Implosion? You seem to have left them out... Any reason for that?

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You also don't have a train of thought that can be followed here. It doesn't make sense. You're saying there's something weird about me wanting to look off wagon, you're implying that scum are bussing or something and that the people off wagon are town? But then I'm not on wagon and you're saying I'm scum.

Well let me clarify something...
Pooky was the first to say they wanted to look off wagon then 7 posts later you implied the same that what I think is strange and not only that but 8 posts after your post Save The Dragons then said the same thing like I don't understand the need for repeating it why cant you just agree rather than try and portray it as your own idea

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don't understand the need for repeating it why cant you just agree rather than try and portray it as your own idea

Well, because it was my own idea.

In post 609 I say we should go for you or Sabil

In post 648 pooky makes his comment

In post 652 you ask me why

In post 656 I explain why, and it's more than just "off wagon"

Regarding 609 you say you want to "take care" of me and Salsa that's not implying or saying that you just want to look off wagon

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Yeah, because I already talked about Implosion the other day

Umm where? I cant see anything

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This is all I can find on you even mentioning Implosion in your ISO

Spoiler:

UNVOTE: Something_Smart

Don't like your defensive nature on 183, it was not required fmpov.

VOTE: Dunnstral

It's not defensive, I was calling you out. You only cared to dismantle the townread.

You don't seem to have taken issue with the other guy calling me scum

I'm also trying to figure out what your motivation for posting this was. Pooky called you locktown... I called you someone that I "mildly like for scum" and then listed you when Pooky asked me to list one person that I thought was scum, essentially.

Why do you feel Salsabil taking issue with the latter implies she should take issue with the former?

I just feel that Salsa was only deconstructing townreads and not looking at everything. Or at least I was trying to figure out what was going on

You got the whole thing wrong. I don't have any problem if someone townread/scumread you, my point was: you had only 3 posts when

PookyTheMagicalBear

townlocked you, which I find unusual. If they scumlocked you with your 3 posts, I'll ask the same question.

Well ok, that's why I asked the question, because implosion scumleaned me. But I guess you only cared about the lock part?

I disagree that penguin crumbed that he was going to hide behind implosion

Dunnstral I will give you 5 minutes to bus your scumbuddy implo

I don't think I will be voting there today, I am not scumreading him. I would prefer to get minimega today, especially after Implo pointed out that they did give reads in another game.

I think picking no prs is a strong move for scum.

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Correct. It's not doing that. You're arguing against your own point; I never said I was looking off wagon, I just used that as a reason for my suspicion on you and sabil

But you wont look even on the wagon?? Like you and Implosion are so hung up on voting/"taking care" of me and you want to "take care" of salsa

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822 I talked about why I don't want to vote him, I did not feel a need to reiterate

"Just because I don't scum read them" are you really serious right now... You say my argument isn't strong...

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Alright let’s go another way then
What has Implosion done to make you think they are town?

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They're just not my top suspect and the case against him mostly focuses on mechanical speculation that I disagree with

That doesn't answer my question... Nice way to try and get around it.
Might it have something to do with the fact that you know they are town because you are scum?

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Might it have something to do with the fact that you know they are town because you are scum?

No

Well what then

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If they havent done anything that you can point out as towny then why arent they one of the top suspects

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I am trying to wrap my head around what you are saying and its confusing the hell outta me

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Im tired we can carry this on after I have had some sleep

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So what is your reason for voting me? What have I done that is scummy?
Sleep can wait for now

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@Mod V/LA for 24 hours

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Alright I’m half back I’m at work rn but I should be good to check this on my breaks

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Alright finished work for the day but after a 15 hour day I’m going to bed so I will be catching up tomorrow

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There isn’t much going on in this game to the point I keep forgetting about it

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I know you explained your "obvious reasons" but how do you now feel with N_M ending up the N1K?

Well I wasn't expecting it

And especially so when you had ridden that -presumably- RVS vote to the end of the day.

As I said previously I am not really a fan of day one so I wasn't really around

I don't see a major change in your activity on D2. Yes, you seem to have posted more by count, but by content you still didn't bring anything of value. Do you have any comments?

Honestly not really.

Furthermore, the majority of your posts (on both days) are filler and/or QUESTIONS (the typical way for Scum to look engaged is to ask questions they do not intend to follow up on).

Its the way I usually get myself into the game so sorry I play like that

What possible answers did you expect here?

I don't know that's why I asked...

And how would one answer help you decide on Pooky's alignment? Like, how would you have expected Scum!Pooky to respond? And how would you have expected Town!him to respond?

Oh I don't know if I knew what I was expecting I would never have asked the question

Was this serious? If so, why didn't you vote STD? If not, what was the purpose of that post of yours?

It was more of a question hense the question mark. I didn't vote as I thought it would've been too obvious if they are scum.

Again; what did you do to deal with it?? Absolutely NOTHING.

What could I have done? Voted them? Where would that have gone? Probably no where and I'm not exactly one for pushing my thoughts ALL the time like yous are.

Hint: Here's how I look at it.. "I am Scum and I am stuck. I dunno what to say, so let me ask some silly question that serves no purpose other than making me look like I am engaged and posting".

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY I AM NOT FUCKING SCUM I AM SORRY I ACT LIKE I AM

This now looks even worse. At first I thought you weren't familiar with N_M (my bad for not following the thread closely), but upon this reread you seem to know him well enough to understand exactly why I said that. Now what was YOUR reason to ask this question?

I asked the question to get an answer. Because believe it or not whether it seems like it or not I am trying to sort players in this game sorry if I don't make that obvious enough for you.

But you sure are playing like one!

Sorry if I don't play the way you like

Two more examples of questions that lead to nowhere and serve no purpose as you don't even pretend to follow up on.

Im getting sick of you assuming things just because I dont follow up doesn't mean anything maybe the answers arent worth it or maybe I dont have the need to respond because the answers gave me what I wanted

2- Where's that reads list??

No one confirmed they wanted one

And what was the point of yours?

Asking a question to gain an answer and information cause I needed an answer

More questions. But do you present your own views?? NO. Your main concern seems to be keeping everyone in the PoE and that's all.

Because to me everyone could be scum however as the game goes on I am sure som players will stand out

A scumslip in my book (but I am certain no one else would agree). By your logic, and IF you are Town, and IF Dunn is Scum, what would be the difference between him knowing implo is Town and him knowing YOU are Town? Why would he be pushing you and not making implo his top SR??

I have read this over and over again and dont get what you mean

More indirect shade thrown implosion's way, but you don't ever say what implo did that makes you SR him. Care to share?

Who said I scum read them? Assumptions are the mother of all fuckups ya know

Last 3 posts in your ISO sure look like you're trying your best to avoid being in this thread.

P-edit: Sorry..

Um I am sorry I had medical issues...

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I shouldve spoilered that. Oh well add it to the list of things I do wrong

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At the moment im leaning on either one of Dunnstral/Save The Dragons

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*either one of or both of*


And dont ask why because all I can say is something feels off with them and I cant quite put my finger on it

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mini not hammering implosion is a bad look

Why is me not hammering a bad look but everyone else who isn’t voting Implosion and not hammering not a bad look?

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You say the reason Dunn is not pushing implo is because Dunn is Scum who knows implo is Town. Right?
But you are -supposedly- Town too, so why is Dunn pushing you?

I don’t know why don’t you ask Dunnstral

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I'm fine with Implosion and Mini both claiming.

Still want me to claim?

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I'm fine with Implosion and Mini both claiming.

Still want me to claim?

yes, i want you to claim and then probably hammer after Implosion claims.

You want me to claim now?

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mini not hammering implosion is a bad look

Why is me not hammering a bad look but everyone else who isn’t voting Implosion and not hammering not a bad look?

...because the alternative is you dying. so unless you're protecting implosion, why wouldnt you hammer?

Because there is still talking happening and that is vital for town

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Follower
N1 followed STD and they went nowhere

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Cause there is still a possibilty

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You could be the traitor or the other scum and you had your buddy do the kill it doesn't clear you

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Oh thats right they got eliminated day one but t still means you could be traitor

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Well at least you dont have to worry about eliminating me tomorrow now cause ill be the nk for tonight

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HOnestly I dont remember

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And the fact I dont remember has nothing to do with the game I just don't remember

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the odds of a CC are pretty high if it's a fakeclaim

Honestly there won't be one

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Well at least you dont have to worry about eliminating me tomorrow now cause ill be the nk for tonight

yes i do like this scenario actually. if mini survives tonight, elim tomorrow.

What if Scum kills not me tonight because you have said this to get two town down? If I am alive tomorrow this will be my likely scenario

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There probably won't be a direct cc if this is a low power game, but I'd expect there to be another pr

Is that just because I am just not good enough to be one?

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Well at least you dont have to worry about eliminating me tomorrow now cause ill be the nk for tonight

yes i do like this scenario actually. if mini survives tonight, elim tomorrow.

What if Scum kills not me tonight because you have said this to get two town down? If I am alive tomorrow this will be my likely scenario

still worth killing you then on balance - we'd have 2 clears (non core mafia), maybe a scum and a clear (non core mafia). scum not killing you takes a big gamble, although it depends on how today plays out.

Yeah if implosion is town I hope scum kills me to save me from being eliminated tomorrow but i know if i was scum i would leave me alive after you saying that if i am not the nk that i will be eliminated tomorrow

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Well at least you dont have to worry about eliminating me tomorrow now cause ill be the nk for tonight

yes i do like this scenario actually. if mini survives tonight, elim tomorrow.

What if Scum kills not me tonight because you have said this to get two town down? If I am alive tomorrow this will be my likely scenario

still worth killing you then on balance - we'd have 2 clears (non core mafia), maybe a scum and a clear (non core mafia). scum not killing you takes a big gamble, although it depends on how today plays out.

Yeah if implosion is town I hope scum kills me to save me from being eliminated tomorrow but i know if i was scum i would leave me alive after you saying that if i am not the nk that i will be eliminated tomorrow

If scum leave you alive, you still have a follower result on someone.

Yep and will anyone believe me? Nope

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Well at least you dont have to worry about eliminating me tomorrow now cause ill be the nk for tonight

yes i do like this scenario actually. if mini survives tonight, elim tomorrow.

What if Scum kills not me tonight because you have said this to get two town down? If I am alive tomorrow this will be my likely scenario

still worth killing you then on balance - we'd have 2 clears (non core mafia), maybe a scum and a clear (non core mafia). scum not killing you takes a big gamble, although it depends on how today plays out.

Yeah if implosion is town I hope scum kills me to save me from being eliminated tomorrow but i know if i was scum i would leave me alive after you saying that if i am not the nk that i will be eliminated tomorrow

none of this chat is really doing you any favours tbh. just feels like you're playing for time.

Well fuck it then ill just go good luck town I'm outta here sorry for playing