Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)

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Second?

VOTE: ben dover123

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Tbh I’m just happy to see that my streak of rolling cop in open games has continued

Thanks goodness I’m a mafia godfather.

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Oh wait godfather isn’t even a thing in this setup, I was thinking of c9+++

Derpclear me now pls

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VOTE: PenguinPower

chainsaw defense

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Wait, this isn’t the scum PT

what the heck

@Datisi, does your vote on ben have anything to do with this post?

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i have too little, tell me more

You feel more relaxed than I'd expect scum!you to be

Notsci pointed out what I was thinking (whether gypyx's energy is towny)

Gypyx is energetic and therefore towny

Scipio had a towny reaction to townslipping

Ben dover is new so being relaxed is a good sign

Implo probably has a good reason to TR penguin

Disagree with almost all of these but I think Infinity is likely town for this.

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i have too little, tell me more

You feel more relaxed than I'd expect scum!you to be

Notsci pointed out what I was thinking (whether gypyx's energy is towny)

Gypyx is energetic and therefore towny

Scipio had a towny reaction to townslipping

Ben dover is new so being relaxed is a good sign

Implo probably has a good reason to TR penguin

Disagree with almost all of these but I think Infinity is likely town for this.

disagree aka : you think this is NAI or you think that means the opposite?

- hYdra

NAI.

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partly, yeah. though all three of his posts (after the first one) just gave me a bad vibe. like i'd expected him to be more solve-y by then rather then if that makes sense.

Yeah I see what you mean. That post in particular felt really forced to me though.

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not understanding a single thing bridge is saying rn lmao

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bridge is town

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bridge is town

i think i missed this earlier
what prompted this?

oh, if you thought that one post from ben felt really forced, why're you still voting penguin?

The apathy within his posts + blatantly calling for a quickhammer on me + the self-WIFOM "I claimed scum so locktown me now" feels wayyy too bad to be scum.

Also good point. VOTE: ben dover123

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Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people

You say this and yet you're trying to get me hanged for my supposed 'slip.'

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Usually people accuse me of lacking proactivity and being solve-y so I provided reason to why I am like so this game. It's very understandable that he has such a concern given that there is a pretty stark contrast to this version of my playstyle and my usual dose of over-proactiveness.

ew

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Not really seeing the Isis SR's.

how is that a townslip? doesn't this setup only have a godfather a quarter of the time or something?

Also, this post feels way too dumb to be scum actually trying to fake a townslip, considering it came right after my original post was shown.

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Infinity
Bridge
Datisi

Penguin
AaronFrost

Isis
Implosion
Sec-hyd
N_M
Schiavetto
notsci

ben

Overall a pretty towny playerlist, considering the bottom four in my readlist are ben and three hard nulls.

I'm inclined to believe both Penguin and Aaron are town for jumping on my wagon for the haiku since I think scum would be more... self-conscious about doing that?

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hoping she’ll get towncred for *checks notes* making an obviously bad push (where BoP of her scumgame leads to a TR)

Ok, but the more occam's razor-y explanation is that town had a weird thought than scum did something intentionally bad to get a TR

towny post and towny mindmeld

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Not really.

Mainly that post which felt forced + unproactiveness/not much actual content + feeling the need to justify that unproactiveness

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UNVOTE:

Chill out, we're less than 2 days in and someone's already been put at E-2.

in other news, scipio is still pretty townie. i think his reasons for towreading people aren't actually that solid - it's only gonna be so long before he gets badly burned for using "scum would be more self-conscious here" - but y'know i think it's coming from a genuine place so it is what it is.

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:thonk:

Is that how things work on this site?

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Idk, just don't wanna accidentally quickhammer this early.

https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c49_mafia

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so your defense is that we shouldn't quickhammer because of discussion time and not because, y'know, you're not scum?

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What are people's opinion's on AaronFrost?

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@notsci, do you have any SR's rn? Also why did you vote Schiavetto?

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What’s your preferred non-haiku wagon there AFF?

Isis maybe? I don't necessarily think isis is scum but i'd be interested to see what is yielded from a wagon there

i wasn't really opposed to the ben wagon either but his reaction to it was pretty townie imo so i don't really want to vote there right now.

might as well vote on it i guess

VOTE: Isis

This is what struck out as weird to me about AF btw. Feels more like an obligation than proactiveness.

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notsci's recent posts are pretty townie actually.

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gut says there's exactly one scum in Aaron/ben/Datisi

Out of those three, AFF is the only one I haven't been getting any townie vibes from. ben's recent posts have more or less made me reverse my read of him.

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Also did sec/hyd just fall off the map or is that just me? I have little to no memory of any of their recent posts.

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VOTE: AFF we need wagons and Isis isn't one I'm joining.

have your reads changed in any way in the last ~18 hours and if so, how?

No, they have remained the same since then. Nothing has changed for me yet.

ok so can you talk to me about why you're voting aff now then? you said earlier he's "rather null" and that you wanna wait a bit until voting. the only +town thing you mentioned about isis was that the early attack was more likely to be bad town. is that still the case? is that the whole reason behind not wanting to join the isis wagon? bc i'm still struggling to follow your thought process here and if you're town i'd really like it if you could show me that?

This seems like a scumpost to me. The last line is level zero, extremely towny to post. Datisi knows it's extremely townie to post. But I don't think Datisi organically posted it. It reads like a plastic cake to me. like. this post has 6-7 different lines of inquiry trying to tease out of ben to "solve" him and it seems like overkill and the organic version of this post would focus either on the AaronFrost read or the Isis read.

like.
idk look at some of this diction

I see what you mean, actually.

But like, why the vote, exactly? Do you think this one post that pings scum completely overrules Datisi's overall towniness?

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I'm voting Datisi pretty much just for that one post +

maybe an internalized expectation that he would obvtown that set his par for course a bit rigged

oh just saw this. Explain what the bolded part means.

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Why does your gut say there’s scum in that group?

their interactions with each other don't seem to be w/w in any world but I'm having trouble believing that they're v/v/v fsr.

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As for who's scum, I honestly have no fucking clue. I don't feel like I have the best grasp on this game at the moment so I'll probably do some rereading when I have time and see what I can find.

relatable

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Why does your gut say there’s scum in that group?

their interactions with each other don't seem to be w/w in any world but I'm having trouble believing that they're v/v/v fsr.

That doesn't really explain why you think that since you basically just said what you said in 664 but with different wording. What in our interactions causes you to come to the conclusion of 1 scum in me/Datisi/ben?

I mean, if I knew my exact thought process behind this thought I would've explained it lol.

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also does anyone disagree with schiavetto town?

- hYdra

As of right now, no.

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I mean, if I knew my exact thought process behind this thought I would've explained it lol.

i feel like every once in a while paranoia starts creeping up on me about scipio

and then he goes ahead and drops a line like this and i'm like !!!
i feel like i felt this so many times as town
how does one not townread him for it

What other lines have I dropped that are similar to this lol?

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Usually when i make that kind of claim i have some evidence or reasoning to back it up but sure

nah
what's the fun in that?

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Bridge
Isis
notsci

Infinity
Penguin
Schiavetto
Datisi

N_M

implo
sec/hyd
ben
Aaron

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Also did sec/hyd just fall off the map or is that just me? I have little to no memory of any of their recent posts.

checks post count

*scipio 33 posts
*sec hyd 86 posts

sees scipio shade us for lurking??????

Never said you were lurking, just forgettable

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What do you make of 3/4 of your bottom reads being tied as the top wagons right now?

Doesn't exactly help my confidence lol. But everyone else still seems townier imo.

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Also I'm not really a fan of elimming N_M today either. If he flips town then we gain literally nothing from it, and with the current gamestate, I think we need a useful flip.

Vigging him if there is one is ok, though.

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hmm

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We're not limming ben today. That slot should resolve itself naturally.

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I don't like how implosion is trying to push the ben elim even though he's claimed. Bridge's reaction feels like genuine paranoia while implosion's does not.

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hmmm - why are we your strongest tr?

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maybe third time's the charm ....

~ skitter

oh
because you're towny
idk I have trouble explaining my reads sometimes but the one thing I can verbalize that I found townie was the fact that one of you (don't remember which) pushed against me for my "townslip" when it was heavily against consensus and most people were TRing me for it.

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oh this ended

anyone remember me?

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yes