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VOTE: Uncrowned

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Hi guys

I forgot to check this game completely. I am at crunch time with a publishing deadline, I'll be back with content tomorrow late in the day.

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I will read up tonight.

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FYI I am here reading the game, am on page 18.

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UNVOTE:

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TOWN

DGB

skitter30

Goes on and on about mechanics
viewtopic.php?p=12269004#p12269004 - town
viewtopic.php?p=12269130#p12269130 - townish
viewtopic.php?p=12269382#p12269382 - town
viewtopic.php?p=12269784#p12269784 - townie
viewtopic.php?p=12272139#p12272139 - solid town
viewtopic.php?p=12272187#p12272187 - town
viewtopic.php?p=12273335#p12273335 - so town
viewtopic.php?p=12273657#p12273657 - so so town

TheGoldenParadox

viewtopic.php?p=12270553#p12270553 - Loving this entry post
viewtopic.php?p=12270630#p12270630 - I was just thinking that myself
viewtopic.php?p=12272420#p12272420 - town
viewtopic.php?p=12272463#p12272463 - Exactly
viewtopic.php?p=12273476#p12273476 - town

Infinity 324

viewtopic.php?p=12266547#p12266547 - town
viewtopic.php?p=12267672#p12267672 - town
viewtopic.php?p=12268836#p12268836 - town
viewtopic.php?p=12272065#p12272065 - bold vote
viewtopic.php?p=12272178#p12272178 - weird
viewtopic.php?p=12272860#p12272860 - town
viewtopic.php?p=12273809#p12273809 - town

Uncrowned

viewtopic.php?p=12264984#p12264984 - town
viewtopic.php?p=12265135#p12265135 - town
viewtopic.php?p=12272687#p12272687 - scummish
viewtopic.php?p=12272883#p12272883 - good townie observation

Dunnstral

viewtopic.php?p=12269102#p12269102 - town
viewtopic.php?p=12269107#p12269107 - town
viewtopic.php?p=12273267#p12273267 - town

JacksonVirgo

viewtopic.php?p=12265112#p12265112 - town
viewtopic.php?p=12265116#p12265116 - town

NULL

Something_Smart

Goes on and on about mechanics
viewtopic.php?p=12268721#p12268721 - VERY town
viewtopic.php?p=12269713#p12269713 - scummish
viewtopic.php?p=12272415#p12272415 - town

PenguinPower

Is VI - would policy yeet
viewtopic.php?p=12267825#p12267825 - townish
viewtopic.php?p=12273660#p12273660 - scum

petapan

viewtopic.php?p=12265262#p12265262 - scum
viewtopic.php?p=12268496#p12268496 - scum
viewtopic.php?p=12272341#p12272341 - town
viewtopic.php?p=12274293#p12274293 - town LOL

Pine

SCUM

davesaz

viewtopic.php?p=12268706#p12268706 - revisit later
viewtopic.php?p=12272338#p12272338 - interesting, maybe scum?
Talking a lot of blah blah about numbers
viewtopic.php?p=12274578#p12274578 - useless
A lot of tergiversation

Hoopla

viewtopic.php?p=12264936#p12264936 - scum
viewtopic.php?p=12264987#p12264987 - scum
viewtopic.php?p=12265108#p12265108 - scum
viewtopic.php?p=12266543#p12266543 - :goodposting:
Penguin Power vote is very good
viewtopic.php?p=12268628#p12268628 - scum
viewtopic.php?p=12268698#p12268698 - scum
viewtopic.php?p=12273012#p12273012 - :goodreads: except for lilith

lilith2013

Time-wasty posts.
viewtopic.php?p=12272258#p12272258 - useless line of questioning
viewtopic.php?p=12272348#p12272348 - RL excuses
viewtopic.php?p=12272354#p12272354 - bad read
viewtopic.php?p=12272478#p12272478 - frivolous

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VOTE: lilith2013

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VOTE: lilith2013

a) i am noting that your scumreads of lilith/dave/hoopla are fairly unoriginal
b) also noting that if lilith is indeed scum this vote should not get any towncred imo ^

a) Great minds think alike
b) I don't give a rat's tutu about towncred, I get NK'd early.

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a) Great minds think alike

Apparently you think like a vi

And proud of it.

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why's 791 a scumpost

We should add it to the wiki to teach the kids how it's done.

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like, a lot of the names and their placement on the list are fine but the posts that are supposedly evidence toward these things strike me as not really telling, and are often short fairly non-AI posts (because those were the easiset to read?).

Those are MY towntells and MY scumtells. Maybe you should learn from them!

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Force her to make a fakeclaim that locks her in to bad actions, or confirms her as scum.

I wish there were more players with that attitude instead of asking for those infuriating "intents to hammer."

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a couple people picked up that this looked like a scumslip:

Actually town doesn’t have a tracker right? Honestly I feel like skitter is confident enough that we maybe just lim lilith here. But I think we should talk about it more.

PEdit: you didn’t need to put it to L-1 though?

turns out that was just a typo?

but!

when i was reading the latest posts

this

actually caught my eye as a perspective slip:

I mean scum already knows she’s a powerful PR

does this imply he knows lilith is town? or am i out to lunch here? someone help me.

I don't disagree but it's pretty weak.

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I think DGB and infinity are scummy as hell, their votes are opportunistic

LOL

I hardly had any votes

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I wish there were more players with that attitude instead of asking for those infuriating "intents to hammer."

Is getting a claim not what intent to hammer is designed to accomplish?

I hate that.

You catch so many scum running them up and then they scramble to fakeclaim. Asking for "intent to hammer" just buys time for scum.

Rush-claiming is never an issue for a townie. See my sig.

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Um, what? votes is plural because you and infinity both voted me? what?

I random-voted Uncrowned on the first page...

Then I voted YOU.

You say my votes are opportunistic?

What a pattern LOL

One real vote.

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lilith, you're so scum.

It's borderline comedy and I love you for it.

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I never miss an opportunity to vote for scum.

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That really only works if people are okay with hammering without a claim,

Scum always ends up claiming, so hammering without a claim doesn't really happen.

If the player stretches it, hesitates, gets stubborn, then you know the player is scum. I'd be OK with a no-claim hammer, personally, but it's viewed with great suspicion so rarely done. Usually delayed claims are fake anyway.

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I never miss an opportunity to vote for scum.

Do you miss opportunities to explain your votes?

I read the whole game and she's the scummiest player?

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Delayed from what? From the point at which they're asked to claim?

Yes.

Often townies under pressure will spontanesouly claim, too.

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I read the whole game and she's the scummiest player?

Yes obviously. What's your reasoning for saying that?

No scumhunting, she's just diddling around, making excuses.

Why, you think she's town? Convince me.

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Not per se, but "not scumhunting" isn't a scummy behavior in and of itself.

I disagree.

It's one of the most reliable scum tells that there are.

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I say that as someone who frequently does not scumhunt as town.

I would be on you like white on rice.

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Still null.

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This game is so serious.

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Like I'm not jibbing with anyone, to me, mafia is comedy, and it's like I'm at a funeral.

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Plus I spent a couple of hours reading this slog of a game to get reads and petapan just calls it scummy, so I'm just eyerolling and super bored.

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I kind of feel bad for you all that I signed up for this game only to find that there aren't enough clowns for my liking, and maybe you had expectations from me of fun play that I just can't deliver, because, I don't know? I just looked at the last few pages, and where's the joy? It's all so dreary and tense.

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There are only two days left, and you need 4 more votes.

So I'm pretty certain I am today's elim based on petapan's say so that my catch up post of 30 pages wasn't good enough.

If you find that convincing enough that I am the scummiest player, then eliminate me.

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I forget what your objection was, maybe it was because you didn't believe my scum and town tells and/or thought it was fake. Well there are no credible counter arguments to this idiocy and if this town can be convinced to eliminate me over actually scummy players, then knock yourselves out.

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And it took you two whole minutes to come to this conclusion?

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Why would anyone follow such a dreadful spectacle?

Though someone already ball gagged and tied to a rack might find it deliciously painful.

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Also how are you DGB, it’s been a while

Fantastic, I am loving the quarantine. People avoid me instead of the other way around.

How did you earn that schnazzy Rising Star sticker?

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Who do you think is the obvscum player here, DGB?

Lilith, obviously. I am even vanity wagoning, which is out of character for me.

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I look forward to your reads then.

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Once, a long long time ago, when you were still a glimmer in your father's eye, I had mercy on a player who brought up a detailed personal sob story. This player is still on the site. The story was completely false, and the player was scum. She argue that as scum, you use anything you can to your advantage.

Then I started to notice that players that talk about out-of-game topics, bring up sad excuses etc., definitely lean scum and I always give them flak.

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@Menalque
I have been at times busy (this game for example, I had a publishing deadline to respect) but once my timetable cleared up, I fulfilled my obligations.

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I will take you at your word re:Lilith.

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Once, a long long time ago, when you were still a glimmer in your father's eye, I had mercy on a player who brought up a detailed personal sob story. This player is still on the site. The story was completely false, and the player was scum. She argue that as scum, you use anything you can to your advantage.

And since then, the site meta has shifted to where that is no longer acceptable and this person would probably get quite a negative reception for doing this today.

There was a negative reaction back then, too.

I am still soured. I have mafia personal sob story PTSD!

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@Menalque
I have been at times busy (this game for example, I had a publishing deadline to respect) but once my timetable cleared up, I fulfilled my obligations.

You seem to have correctly intuited that this is, indeed, part of the reason why I think you’re likely to be scum!

Hahaha well

I did have a deadline, it's a magazine and they were short material for the issue and they reached out to me very last minute. I was even giving them the material in pieces, like, here are the photos, first half of text tomorrow morning, I'll have the instructions tonight, etc.

When I was done I sat down and read the whole game in one piece.

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Oh, nice

Hey, DGB, have you considered that you’re at G-2 and have two people (PP and myself) who are very willing to vote you

You should support my infinity wagon if you want to live

I would have to care to live

I read I-324 as town as of last time I looked at that player slot

It's a strange experience for me to be wagon'd on day 1, because usually the scum fears me and the town doesn't bother trying to read me because I'm usually the first or second NK.

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I still think Infinity is town.

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You guys are going to have to hurry up and eliminate >this< townie.

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Perfect perfect, keep calling it a BS claim to distract the scum away from me, I see what y’all are doing

Shouldn't you keep that to yourself if you're town?

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You guys know there's no case on me, I cannot defend myself against people not believing I had a deadline or that my catch up post was legit.

If you want to start the game doing the scum's work by removing one of the players they fear the most and are most likely to NK, then I am going to help you.

VOTE: DGB

Good luck, you're gonna need it.

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And good job petapan and Menalque, you deserve the scumwin.

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Maybe the scum is averse yo bussing.

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This is gut only, I feel that Menalque is mischievously duplicitous.

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What kind of dumb question is that?

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Are you insinuating that this player list is so god tier that the scum will let me live to end game?

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No, i'm insinuating that to the best of my knowledge quite a lot of this pl wouldnt *know* that town!you is somebody to be that scared of, and there's at least 3 players here who get n1'd on a regular basis

and so what i'm getting at is why you're so convinced that *in this game* it's a certainty that if you dont ger voted out you'd be resolved viabbeing an early nk, because *off of your play alone day1* that is not at all a certainty, and *in this pl* i'm not sure you get fearkilled to the extent you're insinuating

That is my assumption in every game regardless of player list. If you don't know me... you'll find out soon enough.

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I will elim dgb solely to stop having to read how awesome she thinks she is.

This is a fine example of why I have not enjoyed this game.

Just hammer me please.

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It's not like you're going to eliminate another player, all you got are nebulous, weak scum reads and wishy-washiness, so go ahead and get rid of the player who had work to do for a couple of days.

It's only marginally a mafia game at this point.

Finish me off and don't bother sending me the Dead PT link.

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I can’t tell if DGB is town or bluffing the “total lack of survivalism” thing to try and look town

But I don’t townread her and if she doesn’t want to play then she’s always gonna be a liability and hard to sort and isn’t going to contribute very much/any more than she already has

F that shit and F that attitude that all town tells you might find are fake news and QAnon level of fabrication.

I have yet to see an actual fake town tell or a scum tell that wen hahaha look at post 1234 see how I'm rolling the town with my fake town tell.

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Like, I’m sorry you haven’t enjoyed the game DGB, but I want you dead at this point

We can agree on that.

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EBWOP

I have yet to see an actual fake town tell or a scum team that went hahaha look at post 1234 see how I'm rolling the town with my fake town tell.

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she’s always gonna be a liability

Lilith and Golden Paradox have fewer posts than the mod but OK

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Oh there we go again with the "everything's fake" and not believing your lying eyes. You're gaslighting yourself.

Anyhoo it looks like I'm hammered.

I was town and choose PGO because I expected to be NK'd.

Adios amigos

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I have never once saw a town tell and told myself "hey this could be fake" because then what's the point of trying to read players? The most important part of the game is finding your fellow townies.

It's also quite scumvenient when a player drops a town tell, to just yell "FAKE NEWS!!!!" If I ever do that in a game you'll know I'm scum.

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you're at 6 votes...

2020 can't end soon enough LOL

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Yep. Everything is fake. How do you even play like this?
Like I said... it's a great strategy when you're scum.

If there's anything that players may think is town...

CALL IT FAKE

Tomorrow I recommend that you slay petapan and Menalque.

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VOTE: petapan

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So fake

LOL

DIE SCUM DIE

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NOW I am having fun.

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I had a choice.

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My other choice was vig. It's my least favorite role.

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Every single thing I do is interpreted as scum, I am arrogant, blah blah blah

I picked my favorite role.

I don't even understand how this open setup works, I didn't read the instructions.

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VOTE: DGB

I was supposed to pick vig? Like it's a no-brainer? I never hit scum the once or twice I got the role and was NK d early game as usual.

Never in all my years playing mafia have I hated a game as much as this one.

I will stick to normals and large themes in the future.

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You know what's the worst part about it?
If she's town (questionable but I suppose possible) then she actually would be dangerous to scum later game.
But it's some pretty bad mechanical play if she's town and true claiming, to not take into consideration the more likely path for scum given the draft order.

I gave the draft stuff ZERO thought.

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insufferable

The feeling is mutual.

We've played before though. This game is just the pits

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You know what's the worst part about it?
If she's town (questionable but I suppose possible) then she actually would be dangerous to scum later game.
But it's some pretty bad mechanical play if she's town and true claiming, to not take into consideration the more likely path for scum given the draft order.

I gave the draft stuff ZERO thought.

Oh this must be another fake town tell LOL

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Maybe it's because I felt undermined from the get go and never given a chance or the benefit of the doubt.

Is there a single post I made that wasn't declared fake or scummy?

I have to remember to treat townies that way when I roll scum, it's highly effective.

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i don't think the other time went well either

I have no recollection.

I like everyone. This game is a true outlier for me.

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I gave the draft stuff ZERO thought.

Why did you join this game then

I was invited by a friend in the player list I was looking forward to play with.

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but w/e. sorry for being wrong i guess

You knew I was town pages ago, you just decided to hate all my posts.

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I stand by my town reads.

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Thanks skitter, you're a good kid.

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i regret not tunneling hoopla harder

Me too but she's just so charismatic!