Open 797: Bus Service [Game Over]

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Present

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Mod confirmed scum for not being bolded correctly

Why provide reasoning in a second post? Town aren't afraid to RVS
VOTE: mwnn

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"*Casts vote*

Oops that might get pushback

*here's a dumb reason*"

Thought process of a page 1 scum

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Y'all breaking my heart

Hypo-claiming is where we say who we would hypothetically bus or cop before the night starts, yeah? I've not heard that terminology before. If that's the case I don't know if I'd reconvene cop hypo claim just because I don't want cop to out themselves prematurely

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Also

@mod - v/la until Wednesday, in hospital for kidney stone removal

I'll prolly be able to post as normal but JIC

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know if I'd recommend* cop hypo

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I think mech talk is a bad way to TR people fwiw

and this is true, mech talk is the easiest thing in the world to do as scum

I mean, it's not the talk itelf that gives JV and yessiree townpoints, it's the proactivity, it's how they suggest solutions to solve this game and furthering the game out of RVS, and how they engage each other in a very genuine tone

I agree with this

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Big Elephant is sounding increasingly scummy, I think the TR on MiniVirgo is a deep pocket, and they're just generally agreeing with stuff and throwing out forced reads instead of solving.

I think mech talk is a bad way to TR people fwiw

VOTE: Big Elephant

I shittily try to end RVS but THIS gets no vote? /salty

VOTE: ProfMaf

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Why hypo cop claim, unless they get scum results immediately it just gives scum more information than they need

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I'll let y'all kiss for a while

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Why Elephant?

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Have you played with Shelly before?

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She draws some undeserved scumreads. I recently replaced into a game that lost it's whole first day to Shelly vs. The world shenanigans and then she flipped town

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Thanks!

Also I know she gets that regardless, I guess I'm saying I don't take early scum leans from Shelly too seriously

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This a shitpost kinda game huh?

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Big E help me understand how you read derp

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Oh

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Hey sorry VLA ended a lil late and I haven't put much thought into this game. Brb

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Read up.
Pretty sure this is town Shelly posting.
Would be willing to vote Elberin.
Yess seems really cautious to me?

Those are the prevailing thoughts upon a reread. Is this a micro? I feel like there are only like 6 players

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In my defense I didn't know you were gonna post a better catchup. I like your point on mini, tho.

VOTE: mini

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how is BE "obtuse and scummy"? how will getting BE today help solve the game?

Obtuse i sort of understand

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Y'all are missing the part where Shelly is just like this.

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Examples of that? A push you find disingenuous?

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The double derp is reasonably compelling, assuming that was the two different heads. Perspective slip, maybe? But by the end of your post we get into Shelly bein' Shelly.

Still better than voting someone who isn't here

VOTE: shelly/elephant/whatever

Keeping an eye on that prof maf slot tho

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Genuinely forgot I voted mini there. This game be slow, yo.

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Either way, I'm feeling ok with this push on Shelly (or at least parts of it). Might change my mind when she responds.

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I find it hard to believe that both heads of the hydra lulvoted the exact same person.

no it was same head

Which head?

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This slot is so painfully town

Shelly or mini?

Also welcome replacements!

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I could do derp.

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I liked minis catch on the double vote, it didn't reek of the normal "Shelly is scum i mean just look at her" I've seen in previous games

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I don't even get that double vote thing btw. What scum motivation is there to fake that? There's none. The second head just happened to RVS-vote the same person without realising their other head already did, which means nothing alignment-wise.

Uncoordinated Hydra scum both independently targeting someone like derp seems odd to me. Either he's bait or their partner and they didn't want it to seem like they were ignoring him

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Did everyone other than me, A50 and N_M just create a dumb alt for this game?

unfortunately this is my main and I am simply like this

Same

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Oh boy

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@mod is there daytalk in this game

Not sure there's anything to respond to here. Lemme know if you have any direct questions homies.

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Why is this more likely than uncoordinated hydra town who both happened to vote derp? I really don't see why one is more likely than the other.

I'm more willing to believe in some level of intent rather than simple coincidence. Does that make me paranoid?

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Off work!

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I would vote either one

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VOTE: derp my motivation for this game is low.

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VOTE: professor mafia

I'm gonna miss poor innocent derp

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you just seem real confident. I didn't like PM's start yesterday.

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also FTR I laughed at Elberin's post

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also also I'm in less games now so I'm here to pay attention and catch scum. What's got you so convinced he's scum, shellz?

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I think it's icky that he dislike townreads so hard. Other than that this feels like you wanna lim a lurker who happens to think you're scum? Like 6/10 of his posts are shading you in some way. What am I missing?

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Is this a hypoclaim what is happening

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So you'll forgive me I'm new to this, are we claiming what we did/ would have done as driver/cop last night or what we will be doing tonight

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Gotcha.

Cop innocent on man with no name
Bus profmaf with miniV

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tstbs

Too scummy to be scum?

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Shelly, Faraar can you please give me a read on the other? In detail please if that's alright

Phone details

Shelly recently got limmed really early as town in Boardgame Mafia and turns out she was really REALLY right about the stuff she was yelling about. So I came into this game thinking I wouldn't let that happen for shelly again.

And then she was wrong on me.

And then you pointed out that double derp vote.

And then derp flipped town, making her wrong again.

So all in all I'm disconcerted by Shelly but not willing to put a vote there again

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Can't wait to hear from Nandor honestly

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Thoughts from work - if we're all hypoclaiming cop innos and the real cop actually has a guilty, what do?

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Hey, policy limming is whack. You knew you were getting a NM game. Has he done anything that shows he's scummy that he doesn't do as town? What does a NM scum game look like?

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Inclined to townread Bingle here

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Consider me poked here. I'm getting bored and I'm not satisfied being the de facto lim today like derp was yesterday. So here's my everybody thoughts (with bonus vote probably)

I've talked about ProfMaf and Shelly

Nandor was poking me yesterday until derp showed up and then he just conveniently forgot I existed until right now. Boring. Not necessarily scummy. I don't really have a way to pressure him right now though. I'd look in his direction if I do end up flipping here today.

Man with no name seems to be ok with innocently sheeping Bingle right now, and while I don't love the laziness Bingle is the right guy to sheep right now so meh.

Bingle looks really good. I like his townread on shelly and he's good at explaining things to me setup-wise.

Who even is Froppy?

I really don't like A50 here. Shelly push yesterday, refuting claims that she's bait, and putting the l-1 vote on derp AFTER being warned about NM lolhammers AND acknowledging the potential for one while voting. And then he just forgets his "lolhammers are a scum claim" position today and ignores NM entirely.

VOTE: A50 if NM is scum here, this is his partner.

Elberin is hard to pin down. Voted mini day one which is like, different? I liked that at the time, but hasn't produced a lot of content since. Some pressure here would be nice as well.

MiniV made waves being smart and outspoken early, which isn't really AI, but I like what they've got to say. Call it gut. Except the scumread on me.

Not Mafia.... My question still stands. Does anyone know what N_M scum looks like? I don't wanna policy lim them but I don't want to just ignore them either.

Hey, policy limming is whack. You knew you were getting a NM game. Has he done anything that shows he's scummy that he doesn't do as town? What does a NM scum game look like?

Why is it whack when they literally acting against towns goals, leaving them alive in lylo is suicide regardless of their alignment because they’ll just speed hammer the first wagon

I guess it just feels a little bit like bullying and a little bit like a waste of time to me

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Also I'll be here the next couple hours and I guarantee responses within a couple minutes if anybody wants to rapidfire or bounce ideas

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but like ugh tho.

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MWNN

do tell?

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What I posted a little earlier that same page is all the content I got for this slow ass game baybee what you wanna know? either you missed it or I don't understand your aggression

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Johnny scumreads me

Yo dog I said I was unwilling to vote you like 3 posts prior. And this sheep me til I'm wrong nonsense doesn't work, you were already wrong on derp.

Here lemme do it your way so it doesn't look like 'fencesitting' even though I still don't have hard and fast reads on everyone

Town->scum

Bingle. (TOWN)
MiniV
Shelly
Mwnn (NULL)
N_M
Froppy
Elberin=Nandor (SCUM)
ProfMaf
A50

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Ok where you going when I flip green Shelly? Are those other reads independent of me? Let's figure this out now so you don't drive this town into the ground

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This has legit never happened to me, I'm frustrated.

I better not read about policy killing not maf tomorrow. I like the Prof Mafia direction, he's not even bothering to post defense. Probably excited with the thread direction.

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I'm not laying down and dying here Shelly, keep throwing buzzwords all you want.

@Nandor I thought she and red let slip a derp partner connection with that double vote, but derp want anyone's partner so

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You've never been launched before? Do you mean as either alignment or town?

I've not been a consensus scumread as town

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derp want anyone's partner so

Derp wasn't *

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I read Elberin's attack on JV for double posting as slight town because I don't see scum bringing hostility and the attention that comes with it at that juncture. That's literally the only note I've made for them in my head

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but then stuff like this scumpings me

The prof maf push or the nm defense? Or just like, a menace to my internet voice?

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This cop shit makes me so nervous. I also saw that but figured I wouldn't call attention to it because what if they're the cop? They're clearly not pushing Shelly so obvi not a red result right? What is to be gained from pointing this out?

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Is the hectic thing Germaine? I've never played with hectic but does it matter?

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What?

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Uhhh

Scum
Town
3p

Scum being the most funnest

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You've never been launched before? Do you mean as either alignment or town?

I've not been a consensus scumread as town

I'm actually fairly confident that its Johhny so I'm giving intent, he's right he really only gets scum read when he is scum...

Any game you're reading that's not ongoing is from literal years ago.

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In fact in the one completed game I've had since my children were born, I was immediately wagon'd into claiming upon joining the game

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I'm interested in what you found when this game is over still, Frop

Also actually digging into my ancient meta seems town to me.

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You two are literally in all my games now

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Damn y'all got chatty

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IT"S A LOT TO READ AND I"M AT WORK SHELLY gosh

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Honestly from my skim it looks like some kind of bloc has formed between mV and Shelly and y'all are deciding which lim you're on board for.

@Mini @Shelly is A50 not an option? I feel like A50 should be an option.

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Also do we know that notmaf hammers in ElLo? Or are we just assuming?

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Work is gonna be wild today for Halloween, so I'll be a non entity for about 12 hours (moreso than currently)

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But yeah, there's this pervasive attitude of GAME IS SOLVED and I have no idea where it came from.

This is another reason I'm not super into NM even though it might save my skin, if he flips green here we're right back to this 'solve' with much higher stakes

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I have the next two days off and a slow shift tonight, so let's get ready to crack this game open

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Absolutely not. Skimmed, voting profmaf. Why are we waiting? I missed it

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VOTE: Proma

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VOTE: JohnnyWinrar

I thought you wanted to be the hammer?

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There's no way they shot me I'm too easy

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pile it on I guess

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Well piss

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Y'all are like hounds. Couldn't make one misstep

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Froppy tell me my tells!

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I mean you do you. I like feedback

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And froppy was never heard from again

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I don't feel as bad for this one!