Open 794 Pick Your Power X/Y (finished)

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Grumpy

WHY WOULD YOU PICK 11, WHYYYYYYYYY

[Gypyx]

Oh wow, hoopla found a breaking strategy guys

[Gypyx]

Well, what's even the point of playaing amirite? Game's basically won, i'm just gonna replace out

[Gypyx]

Wow, you actually edited this

This is gonna be a fun game

[Gypyx]

should i townlean ico off of page 1-2 shitposting? no. will that stop me? also no.

Is it just the fact that ico was shitposting that makes him a townlean? Cuz pretty much everyone is doing it

[Gypyx]

VOTE: gypix

Always trust datisi gut early game

There is no Gypix in this game

[Gypyx]

Damn, Iconeum going for the fake vote gambits

[Gypyx]

I kinda like Hoopla throwing some number analysis for us, but at the same time i don't like her avoiding to take a stance on me, not sure how to read that

You (daitsi) have some pretty susp placement, but i'm waiting to see more

Smart's entrance is kinda weird ngl, but that's mainly my gut

VOTE: something smart

[Gypyx]

You

(daitsi)

have some pretty susp placement, but i'm waiting to see more

who?

I'm bad at reading names

[Gypyx]

not to mention the entire post was made after datisi called gypyx out to say *something relevant*

Well uh yea that kinda was the point of the post? Like datisi asked me for thoughts, i provide them

[Gypyx]

I see, didn't really think this post through to be fair, i think i've just been overexagerating the fact that these reads are not reliable because there's not much content if you get what i'm saying, anyways bascially i think i'm confident enough on these posts, and i have high trust in my gut

Marquis's is susp too, i just focused on the current posters

[Gypyx]

I don't have thoughts yeah

[Gypyx]

I see, didn't really think this post through to be fair, i think i've just been overexagerating the fact that these reads are not reliable because there's not much content if you get what i'm saying, anyways bascially i think i'm confident enough on these posts, and i have high trust in my gut

Marquis's is susp too, i just focused on the current posters

then why'd you bother making the post if this is the case?

Wdym?

[Gypyx]

I see,

didn't really think this post through to be fair, i think i've just been overexagerating the fact that these reads are not reliable because there's not much content if you get what i'm saying

, anyways bascially i think i'm confident enough on these posts, and i have high trust in my gut

Marquis's is susp too, i just focused on the current posters

then why'd you bother making the post if this is the case?

Wdym?

why did you bother to make a response post that you don't support, as shown by the bolded

Just that my mind changed between the response post and you questioning me about the response

[Gypyx]

Uh... ok, that just happened, safe to say that scum is on my wagon, try to look for persons who Fake finding me scummy, i'd probably look around grumpy / marquis, anyways bye sucks to suck

[Gypyx]

I'll get that one for you[/quote]

actually VOTE: gypyx l-1

Also l-1 is no longer the correct phrasing

[Gypyx]

lolwut

Mind explaining this post?

[Gypyx]

Uh... ok, that just happened, safe to say that scum is on my wagon, try to look for persons who Fake finding me scummy, i'd probably look around grumpy / marquis, anyways bye sucks to suck

VOTE: gypyx

came because the "I totally think I'm dead on page 6"

stayed because the "there is scum on my wagon" + <doesn't even know who is voting him because otherwise he would know that he isn't evicted> = manufactured last words = lying = ?!scum?!

I was trying to play along the fake hammer to see if i could get some reactions, i capitalized the word "Fake" to prove that

[Gypyx]

Hi, catching up, school started for me so i might not be as avalible as I usually am

[Gypyx]

Mind explaining this post?

I was bemused by the events preceding it.

Could you explain more? Like, is it a reaction to "hammer" happening or what

[Gypyx]

Also, i'm kinda late on the number analysis talk, but yes, i see the logic with singletons being more likely scum, i think doubled / tripled / ect... numbers are on the same level on towniness

[Gypyx]

Statistics aren't perfect though, especially considered the not-so-big sample of games at our disposal

[Gypyx]

Here's what i think :

We have established that scum rarely goes for the same numbers as thier teamates therefore, each "group" of player contain only one scum, which now that i think about it points towards what you said

But at the same time, scum doesn't know town numbers, therefore, the odds of having a scum in a trio for instance, is higher than in a duo right?

So pretty sure it balances things out

[Gypyx]

it's clear that the only realistic way it could have happened is if i'm scum.

fwiw i'd also fairly-strongly encourage my team to pair

Scumping from this post

[Gypyx]

I can do the math if you want, but I think the bottom line here is just that each townie can collide with 13 other players, and each scum can collide with 11 other players, so scum are less likely to have collisions,

and if they do collide, they're less likely to collide with more people.

I mean, that's true, but i don't think the bolded part is correct, pretty the unlikeliness for 2+ players to collide is affected by the presence of scum

[Gypyx]

Pretty sure*

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Marquis

No pressure <3

Any reasons for that vote other than pressure?

[Gypyx]

This wasn't irony?

[Gypyx]

My question was serious if that's what you're asking

[Gypyx]

hi gypyx do you have thoughts on like anything that's happened

Grumpy is town but other than that i can't get reads

[Gypyx]

Are counterwagons that build themselves quickly scum or town usually?

[Gypyx]

If dats is scum and marquis is town, pushing the marquis elimination would make the number god frown on dats, so in that sense maybe

Idk, the numbers are already saying dat is susp, so for scum!datisi pushing marquis isn't really making the statistics worse imo

[Gypyx]

I still dislike this but it might just be my style of play then anything. I don't plan on hammering though!

This reads phony to me.

It seems like you're taking a position against the Marquis wagon but not one that would actually dissuade anyone from hammering it.

Yes that is because it's exactly what I'm doing. What's wrong with that?

If you think Marquis is scum there's no reason to be against the wagon.

If you think they're town you should try and push a better elim candidate.

If you have no idea you should try to get an idea.

Just "registering your objection" is what scum does with wagons on town that they expect to go through with or without their support.

This on the other hand feels artifitial, cause it is based on optimal play; I feel town is more inclined to take this kind of positions that scum EXACTLY bc scum is more concious against taking such positions

So... it's towny or scummy? I don't follow ur logic there

[Gypyx]

is that the full extent of posts you wanna comment on, gypyx?

Yes, i know that's like ridiculously low but after spending about 30mins blankly reading posts...

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Marquis

No pressure <3

Any reasons for that vote other than pressure?

hi gypyx do you have thoughts on like anything that's happened

Grumpy is town but other than that i can't get reads

Did I answer that question to your satisfaction? You must've had a reason for asking it.

Being the only person you townbin regardless is rude :[

Yeah your answer satisfied me

Sorry for being rude, i'm getting you out of my town list

[Gypyx]

I claim mafia goon, there are no cc's, unvote this

[Gypyx]

Wait this wasn't L-1... uh hello, akward

[Gypyx]

I'm feeling so dumb rn

[Gypyx]

Well, i can't get worse at the game at least

Just lynch me pls

[Gypyx]

I actually thought i got lynched ico

[Gypyx]

gypyx reads like maf venge `-`

I wish lol

[Gypyx]

I actually thought i got lynched ico

this time or last time?

Wdym

[Gypyx]

I'm not telling that

[Gypyx]

I claim mafia goon, there are no cc's, unvote this

this isn't a post coming from someone who thinks they got executed

What do you think it is then? Just to be clear i'm not the kind of guy who throws the game

[Gypyx]

Well, i claimed scum, do what you want about that

[Gypyx]

Just to be clear i'm not the kind of guy who throws the game

are you the kind of guy who laughs at a funeral

Depends

[Gypyx]

The answer is yes. Yes we did. He hasn’t tried to walk it back.

Thanks for stating the obvious, got anything else to say?

[Gypyx]

Well, exe-2, i think that's enough screwing around

yeah this was a fake reaction once again, logic is that i'm feeling the lynch come anyways so might as well try to do something useful

[Gypyx]

logic is that i'm feeling the lynch come anyways so might as well try to do something useful

...When are you gonna get around to that?

Rude

Anyways yeah, this gave me motivation to get back in the game, i'm gonna re-read stuff

[Gypyx]

Just to be clear, my main intent was to pull off something kinda original with the gambit

[Gypyx]

Well, exe-2, i think that's enough screwing around

yeah this was a fake reaction once again, logic is that i'm feeling the lynch come anyways so might as well try to do something useful

Where's your crumb for the fake reaction this time? You had one for the first one

I worded the post in a way that shows i know i'm not lynched while saying in the next post i thought i was lynched

[Gypyx]

Why you been struggling to form reads this game, Gypyx? You're usually very forthcoming and proactive with them (I'm Non Compos Mentis/renaissance if you remember me).

Well that what i'd like to know too, i think that's a mix of bad irl circumstances and me strugguling to get myself into the game

[Gypyx]

Just to be clear, my main intent was to pull off something kinda original with the gambit

be less nebulous and more specific

Basically i told myself "fuck it, i'm dying soon let's try to do something fun" and built around the idea of slayer's gambit

[Gypyx]

Do scumread anyone currently?

I'm scumreading S_S

I'm also not a fan of some of worst's posts, and his reaction to my fakeclaim is scummy

[Gypyx]

I don't remember pulling any VT slip gambit, you sure about that?

[Gypyx]

gypyx

why do you think s_s is s_scum

like i have a Thing that is bothering me about s_s but i don't thnik that my Thing is why you allegedly think he is scum

can you

Elaborate

Well, he hasn't voted all game, i've had some gut pings with him, and the way he's defending me just feels like him position himself to look good when i'll flip without actually going against my lynch

[Gypyx]

i don't think the "hasn't voted" is a scumtell

can you elaborate on 2 and 3?

2 : well, that's mostly early-game things, but i read his entrance as kinda forced, the way he reacts to meta talk is imo survivalist (going for arguing against lynching his own category) and pretty sure i had other stuff in mind but i'm tired


3 : well, look at his recent ISO, his posts about me are basically him soft-defending me, then backing off almost imedialy, repeat for 10 posts, that just doesn't seem right

[Gypyx]

Initial reaction is that this makes Umlaut solid town.

Why, like, this is totally NAI, how does it make Umlaut townier?

[Gypyx]

I thought i wanted to say a thing.

Then I realized that I really didn't have anything to say to someone makes the excellent deduction, if we believe A B and C is scum, then there necessarily is a scum in A B and C; and give the inspiring hot take, if two people have the same thought process, its rly high probabilities that one of em is scum and one aint

Uhh what, might be because it's 00:30 where i am but could you explain what you mean there? I don't see what your point is even applying to

[Gypyx]

What even is this game anymore

[Gypyx]

What even is this game anymore

it's ok, townbloK worsticotisi (Name under Construction) is solving this game

do you have any compelling arguments why we shouldn't flip you?

Everyone is just playing so weirdly, like you're just waiting for the game to play itself

And like, i'd advise y'all to consider who is scum when i'm flipping green

Few arguments i have in mind at random

- there is no way i'm killing hoopla N1

- a50 wasn't taking this game seriously, can you even talk about logic here?

- Marqui's fake Exe-1 vote wasn't something that a scum would do to his partner imo

[Gypyx]

Yes hello, VT here

Also, idk if i got hammered so i'm laying my reads

Scumread :

S_S

Scumleans :

Umlaut
username
Worst

Townleans :

Crayons
Clover
Word
Ico

Town :
Datisi
Grumpy

[Gypyx]

I don't think i should out my pair, it could benefit scum more it will help town

[Gypyx]

I can't really explain sadly

[Gypyx]

Have i really been playing that bad? X)

[Gypyx]

Well, basically it serves no purpose for me to out that this role is in the game, but there is a world in where scum knowing this role is there helps them

[Gypyx]

And you're under word in terms of reads drd

[Gypyx]

Damn, who should i vengekill?

On a side note i love how you portray my scum game as audacious while all the adacious stuff i've done as scum are just misplays

[Gypyx]

Hello, i'm bad

[Gypyx]

Thanks for modding the game dave

[Gypyx]

fun fact: gypyx's last readslist was missing drd

i noticed that again sometime during d3 but i was like "no way tho right"

Oh yeah also about that, i didn't know where to put drd in my read list so i just thought "let's just not put him in" and it seemed to work out (or a least didn't screw him over)

[Gypyx]

You better not pick 11 again