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oh boi here we go again
some familiar faces here
VOTE: NorwegianBoy
Hows it going norskboi?
Lets see if we can wagon to death D1 again

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I like cats
Ur fonts look horrible in sepia
Maybe Ill get used to it

But lets get the ball roling
Has anyone played on this setup before?
Are there any strategies regarding this? As mafia and as town

Since there are no PRs, I guess a lot of traditional strategy is discarded here

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heyyyyyy
im baaaaack

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wazzup clidd
long time no see

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I just came out of an exam; unfortunately, the beginning of the game coincided with an evaluation (the last of the semester, no less) on my university.
I have by a code of honour that I dnt lie about things outside the game itself, so u can take my word for granted

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I completely agree with clidd that mechanical play is one of the best ways to be here as scum, cause it is easily performed by any alignment
I tthink a lot of u think that way too, albeit there are some slight differences on the actual specifications on where it begins to be AI and whatnots
optimal play is usually one of those too

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I mainly did my second post for 2 reasons:
1st, I genuinely didnt know how it goes on the strategy front, as even asociations are harder to get it seems, but from what I saw till now, it is kind of based on townread (or I expect it to, cause I dnt rly udnerstand how we would arrive at 13th page D2 otherwise)
and 2nd, I wanted to shade the fact that most of the conversation till there was about Magic the Gathering and cats, and albeit I love both magic and cats, so as optimal gameplay and general strategy is something everyone can talk withou indicating alignment cause it is based on knowledge, so is trivial conversations; so in that sense, I wanted to spin it to something that I could actually read.
(if u can draw conclusions from that, then u have my respect)

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but yeah, a pale 2 post introduction was warranted to recieve that kind of attention, but I did need to study to that exam
Fortunately, I expect to be more present from now on

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I do townread u clidd, thats something that I get
Ur tone is completely different from Newbie 2006, wich is my only reference to ur scum game, and more aligned with the town!clidd I know

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sure, let me reread

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ok
I reread things
I agree with ur point on Green Crayons being townie for that reaction; it does read more townie than not

I do think Hayachan Nailed it pretty well with her vision of the game; it is consistent on how it rly works, trying to actively get to heave. Her vision on both Isis, Cthulu and Dannflor has been consistent with that view; the thing is that given that there is a pretty rational way of thinking why those decisions r good given the above mentioned view of the game, I am reticent to call this exclusively from town. There is also the fact that by sharing that vision scum gets the opportunity to react to it, that may be good or bad, and that if Hayasaca ends up being scum, the counter to that play was indeed mentioned on a respective pt. That could lead with scum playing an antistrategy and whatnots trying to nail those that do bordr overactivity.
Too much info, hayasaka is null inclined to town, cause I liked posts, with the above. Alternatively, I dnt think that Isis and Hayasaca are scum together.

I like Dannflor, for similar reasons as Hayasaca shared; I think he has been not overposting and whatnots, but still present enough to give opinion, and that seems to be of townie nature on this setup.

I think Isis talks too much. Thats fine, Isis is cool; its enteratining to see. But things like 160 seems too much like "look at me, im so townie", mixed with the high amount of activity. This may be playstyle, u may have built a wall with blood sweat and tears, and I apologize to towm!Isis if that is the case, but for now, Im going to VOTE: Isis

Norwee has been pretty nai, nothing rly going here

I dnt know how to unwrap cthulu, but he does seem a nice guy/gal/forgotten god of ancient times, mind u.

Walter is there, and I expect that if he is scum hell be tainted by a promptly agenda or strategy given by more experienced scum on the pt.

I think thats about it for my early impressions

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I think you're WAY overthinking the Hayasaka situation, and why can Hayasaka not be scum with Isis specifically, but not me?

Yeah, probably; it is just whithin the realm of possibility. But it is not unheard of ppl who know how a particular setup usually works to share perceptiosn on how the game usually involves, and to scum if with a PT, to adapt accordingly.
I havent exactly solved ur slot, as I dnt rly know how to feel about it, but Isis at least

feels

more talkative (specially with that wall); on the other hand a good degree of ur jokes r ibtw and all that, I get a feel of actually trying to movie the game; but given the format, I dnt know wich is better or worse. Since I dnt rly know any of u, I dnt know how good each one of u is, so I dnt know how much to expect. Isis also had more direct interaction with Hayasaca (from my biased point of view), albeit it can be faked. None of this associations r solid yet, oc.

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Someone nailed how I play scum

What do u mean with this? How do u play as scum?

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naaa
TRECKO MY PAL
long time no seeee

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so the legends were true

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Isis is talkative, Hayasaka talked explicitely being talkative is a mark of scumsiness and shaded Isis by this
If they were scum together, one would expect Hayasaka to comunicate those kind of things on a PT
I assumed it had been understood my way, sry if I explained wrong
The "Also there is a lot of interaction" comes from miscelaneous stuff, like cards and what nots

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my

that*

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oh, that was a true ninja

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zzz
Nobody said u cant talk a lot Isis, but the thing is where the focus is at
As I said before on cthulu, doing a joke here and there is alright, but it has become increasingly difficult to me to distinguish the play material from the offgame material
Ive had fun with ur posts isis, and Im not saying that u shouldnt have fun with the thread and all that
but it is objectively hard to search for material amidst the sea of posts if that makes any sense

Either way, its not talkativeness itself, as talking for talking wont make a dent on player vision on u, I find that the most particular thing that defined the vote was the wall post
ppl may find that townie, but I found that comparing information avaible vs the effort of building a wall, I dnt see the net gain from town to gain more investigativeness or making instances of pushes as appealing as the gain from town townreading u more due to it as scum
And again, since we r in such an early stage with so few information, I do apologize with town isis if the effort was sincere and im just giving negative feedback to a whaat u percieve as townie behavior
if u do indeed think it can gain wincon as town, go ahead and ignore me or what do I know

Y aunque manejas muy bien el espanol, se dice "la lengua espanola" pero es "el idioma espanol"
cosas raras del lenguaje

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I think in some cases sending town to hell is Nai; winconditions r entirely based on scum going somewhere, not town
Specially if said town has very few possibilities to going to heaven either way comparatively

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it is kind of null to the wincon in that sense

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the only thing that do affects having town in hell is having fewer "good choices" to send to heaven after all, but that is only something worrisome is said options were actually realistically viable in the first place
Thats only my personal opinion, of course

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I’d like GC to explain if they’re still happy about their current vote based on what i’ve said and Isis’s content so far.

and I dnt think I have enought charisma to do a "push" on anyone on an unfavourable situation
I genuingely read the thread and told things that I saw em
Im bound to be wrong, but those r the petty hypothesis Im working with rn

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hmmm, I actually forgot aout the judgement day thing

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What kind of messed up view is that?
If we get 1 scumflip now it would help immensely.

what Im saying is that if we dnt get a scumflip, that wouldnt rly affect the situation
but of course getting a scumflip is always the most benefitial, and of course getting a townflip will always be detrimental to some degree, thats a given

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I am not arguing we should be killing town but it's more I think we should put a stronger focus on town hunting right now?
My nomination for the first town is Dannflor.

hey hey
I townlean Dannflor too and all that
But from the few amount of posts he has given,and considering he is on VLA, we wont rly get that much info there on short notice, and im not confident enought to make the call like ~now~

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I kind of explicitely addressed that, didnt I?
Its plausible as town, but there is more potential capital to do as scum in general and particularly on this setup, heceforth since there is more incentive, by statistics alone it can be an indicative.
I dnt know ur slot, heceforth I have no idea what ur usual meta is either, so Ill ask directly: do u think that as scum u would be capable of writing a wall for what it says of ur slot in terms of solving?
At that point either way it kind of looses it Ai potential either way, I guess.

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hypocrisy isn't a scumtell, btw
most people mean it that way but I'm always to the first one to point out that it isn't
the last bit is rather why I want you to reconsider your thinking if you're town

I think I got lost here; what do u mean by hypocrisy?

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i do get the meaning of the word; still, thank u for that, cause Im also not a native.
I mean what r u accusing me of, specifically?

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and henceforth, what should I reconsider, cause otherwise the message is lost

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Just to nail the point, I write walls, sometimes as townie and sometimes as scum; its in both metas
but usually my walls have an agenda behind
norwee has seen both, hectic has seen only the scummies and maybe clidd has seeen the townie ones

but usually if i say so myself they have different intent and purposes; they have different capitals to be gained. The first, to investigate, speculate, and land Ideas on town, the second to survive and frame. Despite that, in format they be essentially the same, but in situation they do vary somewhat.

What im saying is, if I write a wall and there is more capital for that particular wall as scum than as town, by all means, call that on me; but I dnt think I have 2 different criterias to this phenomena, I even explicitely ackowledged the possibility of it being a town wall instead of scum; so I rly cant understand why u took it so bad and why u find it so hypocrite on my behalf. If I have low activity, I too should be pushed against the wall to generate more content in that sense, in the converse sens

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i got ninjaed somewhat i think
and my browser seems to be havng problems with previews, cause i havent recieved some for some reason

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i reread the whole thread
I gave my first impressions
I havent isoed u extensively
those r all true

and despite that, Ive voted u, thats also true
I havent isoed anyone in particular except dannflor and hayasaka
and ur time will come, but u do have some amount of content that
if u like it that way, think of it as a placeholder till I get my game straight
cause as the only argument I argument I gave is not damning and kind of weak, so is my confidence on u being scum

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Heeeey ppl
GG

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thanks to MT for modding!
The flavour was rly good

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Interestingly enough I once though that haya may have been an alt for the worst by the profile pictures alone as a random thought in a queue
it seems that confirms the theory I guess
(albeit I dnt rly now neither of the users enough, tbh)

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It was a shame to get sent to hell so early
but welp
2 towns were willing to hammer it seems, both of wich rly contributed to the game
I guess I need to up my game a lil bit

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I do wonder if Isis got genuinely angry when I said I scumread her
I know that being scumread as scum from what is an objectively bad (or at least, very very weak) reason either way can suck, so ire can come from there
But the hypothesis that the wall was Nai at least proved to be true

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I think the trick of disarming the one who is attacking u and reducing his arguments to incoherences overall is good tho
Its the second time someone did that to me, first one being HumanEatingMonkey
I want to learn from those kind of tactics

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I like how norwee denied it to the bitter end
I was breaking my head to grasp the board

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thats fair, thats fair
dnt blame ya for that, it was a good tactic
but maybe sometime well get to actually play for the same team without trying to tear each others throat apart
HAHAHAH