Open 913 - This Game Started as an April Fools' Joke - Postgame
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VOTE: Enchant
Let's just turn this into a 1v1. If we are both town then we can throw the game together instead of you always having to do it by yourself-
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The latter-
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What's your read on Enchant? Do you wanna join me?-
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A lot of Elements posting is forgettable to me so I'm not really sure where they stand in my PoE actually as far as who is scummier than who-
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In post 1100, ketchup777 wrote:
i would currently vote you over enchant in this 1v1In post 1091, Black wrote: VOTE: Enchant
Let's just turn this into a 1v1. If we are both town then we can throw the game together instead of you always having to do it by yourself
I'm having a hard time believing me not reading setup spec is enough to make you reverse your reads here. Your scumread on me doesn't feel naturalIn post 967, ketchup777 wrote:Spoiler: mega thoughts dump
so if I were to guess, the scum team was HA+experience+CFS and Imaginality is the serial killer. but maybe OD or Elements(Enchant) in there somewhere too. me, black, light town, hopefully. reply to as little or as much as this as you want, peoples.
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Either I didn't read something/didn't understand something like I do as town all the time or I'm scum pretending to do that to be townread. It's NAIIn post 1108, Enchant wrote: I think it's more that you pretending you didn't read setup to look dumber-
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I'll be busy for most of the day. I found a little window to read this morningIn post 1109, ketchup777 wrote:
i guess liveposting is helpful to sortIn post 1107, Black wrote:In post 1100, ketchup777 wrote:
i would currently vote you over enchant in this 1v1In post 1091, Black wrote: VOTE: Enchant
Let's just turn this into a 1v1. If we are both town then we can throw the game together instead of you always having to do it by yourself
I'm having a hard time believing me not reading setup spec is enough to make you reverse your reads here. Your scumread on me doesn't feel naturalIn post 967, ketchup777 wrote:Spoiler: mega thoughts dump
so if I were to guess, the scum team was HA+experience+CFS and Imaginality is the serial killer. but maybe OD or Elements(Enchant) in there somewhere too. me, black, light town, hopefully. reply to as little or as much as this as you want, peoples.
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I've never played a 14 player setup and thought there was a possibility of 4th scumIn post 1113, ketchup777 wrote:
ok final q for now then please run me through your thought process in this postIn post 838, Black wrote: halfasleep
imaginality
Thomith
OopsieDaisy
Elements
experience
light_ganski
It's likely there are two scum in this group but I don't have a good read on any of these players-
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I'm not very observant when it comes to details that I should be paying attention to. I know it's a problem and I still do it but I'm in my Lazy Era so I can't really be bothered to care-
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That's the remaining playerlist minus me so there's no way I would have thought that only 2 scum were in the game-
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I sign up for a lot of games at once. I don't always keep track of what is what-
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This is a pretty stupid reason to vote me out tbh-
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The wording sounds like I think there are 3 scum with the possibility of a 4thIn post 1120, ketchup777 wrote: yeah but the wording just sounded like you did, mystical-
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I even wrote this. How could you possibly argue that I thought there were only 2 scum?In post 1023, Black wrote:
I suck at balance but I don't think 2 scum in a 14 player game makes any sense at allIn post 1016, ketchup777 wrote:
but what if there were only 1 scumIn post 1013, Black wrote: {halfasleep; ketchup; Daisy; Enchant}
I think both scum are in this group-
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I'm trying to decide if town!ketchup would argue in bad faith like this-
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The first part is true. The second part we can't talk about without breaking rules so I'm not sure why you're continuing to argue in bad faith-
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That's a HUGE stretchIn post 1129, ketchup777 wrote:
that was the inconsistencyIn post 1126, Black wrote:
I even wrote this. How could you possibly argue that I thought there were only 2 scum?In post 1023, Black wrote:
I suck at balance but I don't think 2 scum in a 14 player game makes any sense at allIn post 1016, ketchup777 wrote:
but what if there were only 1 scumIn post 1013, Black wrote: {halfasleep; ketchup; Daisy; Enchant}
I think both scum are in this group-
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I'm specifically referring to the silent voting phase here. This should be obvious from the conversation around that post. Honestly I think you just alt+F'd "setup" and tried to make some gotcha that doesn't existIn post 1134, ketchup777 wrote: did you not try reading the setup. wait,the setup? the? the? so you did know it was a semi-open?????
In post 1134, ketchup777 wrote: here Black seems confident there are precisely 2 mafia left. just noting.
This is ridiculous framing. In both posts I am of the belief that here are probably 3 scum total. Your twisting of this is laughable and I want you to explain where you got the idea that I thought there were 3 scum left from 1023In post 1134, ketchup777 wrote: and here Black is very confident there are 3 mafia left. then what was post 838? ok so black later said she was considering the possibility of a 4th scum there which is somewhat believable but idkkkkk.
I didn't look in the spoilers. I was doing my usual skimming before work and I just read the conclusion. Even if I had opened it I couldn't even tell you what c9++ is off the top of my head. I'm not that type of playerIn post 1134, ketchup777 wrote: hmmmmm HMMMMMM yeah if you look in the spoilers you immediately see imaginality talking about c9++ and you'd have to realise that we were playing a semi-open. i don't believe black-
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This case was made in extremely bad faith and I don't think town!ketchup would actually believe what he's writing
I want to change my 1v1 to ketchup
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Fade me or ketchup, but if I'm faded first please go ketchup next. This isn't town trying to catch scum-
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Idk I'm just annoyed-
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I'll step back and try to reset. I have to go anyway-
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Hi. This is the third or fourth time you've said this and then didn't produce anything until the next day or two. I'm just curious if you're actually reading when you're saying this and not just prod dodging. And if you are actually reading then why don't you post your thoughts?In post 1157, experience wrote: reading up now-
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This is an extremely weak argument. If you're town then you're just being lazyIn post 1174, imaginality wrote: @Daisy as ketchup says the argument is Black lied about not knowing the setup, not that not knowing the setup is scummy.-
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The fact that ketchup and imaginality are ignoring the very important fact that I consistently have issues with the setup is very frustrating
If either of you are legitimately interested in sorting me then you need to do better-
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1 day left in the deadline. Let's vote ketchup. I think imaginality's solving feels a bit more genuine-
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What is the point of thisIn post 1186, ketchup777 wrote: i neither confirm nor deny I am a PR btw-
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Which would you prefer?In post 1205, experience wrote: i think i'd go for either halfasleep or ketchup rn.-
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I think we have 4 votes on ketchup so let's send it through-
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5 hours til the deadline-
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I'm not. I just prefer youIn post 1225, ketchup777 wrote: why are you against halfasleep?-
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What a lame execution-
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Can we finally kill ketchup now?-
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Am I the only one that voted ketchup?-
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Because ketchup is scum
Why tf would you vote experience?-
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I'm not sure if you heard me the first time but ketchup is scum-
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Why are you assuming I'm a dumb townie and not scum? Didn't you say yesterday you thought I was scum?In post 1262, Enchant wrote: Because we decided to vote EXP.
If Experience was Mafia and Ketchup town, your vote allow scum to potentially outvote (and you knew without any punishment) and avoid being eliminated for day, even if it makes them obvious.
If experience is town (which happened), mafia will pile up here to secure lim.
So your vote only potentially leads to disaster.
I don't even fucking know if you are really can't comprehend how stupid it was.-
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And no, we didn't decide to vote experience. There were only 3 people in support of that fade-
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You're talking to me like I'm a townie that made a blunder instead of scum that did this on purpose-
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I think your reaction here is hella scummy actually-
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If you actually thought I was scum your initial reaction would be to throw sus at me-
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Any time I get the chance to have less interactions with you I will take it-
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Maybe let Enchant answer next time yeah? I don't see any point in you assuming and speaking for himIn post 1272, ketchup777 wrote: i think experience was weighing up whether you were town and trying to explain the mech to you if you were town-
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Only 3 people supported the experience fade and enchant comes in here calling me stupid and berating me for not voting there. Very fun stuff!-
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They were tied iircIn post 1279, Enchant wrote: what wagon supported by more players?
Ketchup wagon was supported by me, LG and experience-
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Ah I'll admit I missed Daisy supporting experience-
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Whatever. I don't appreciate being called stupid-
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I'm down to vote ketchup or enchant today-
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In post 1291, halfasleep wrote: voted experience to follow the majority. i want enchant or ketchup today. preference for enchant.
Can you go into some detail about your Enchant scumreadIn post 1292, halfasleep wrote:
because enchant is: in the mafia.In post 1266, Black wrote:
Why are you assuming I'm a dumb townie and not scum? Didn't you say yesterday you thought I was scum?In post 1262, Enchant wrote: Because we decided to vote EXP.
If Experience was Mafia and Ketchup town, your vote allow scum to potentially outvote (and you knew without any punishment) and avoid being eliminated for day, even if it makes them obvious.
If experience is town (which happened), mafia will pile up here to secure lim.
So your vote only potentially leads to disaster.
I don't even fucking know if you are really can't comprehend how stupid it was.-
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Yep I believe soIn post 1299, OopsieDaisy wrote: ok imag is vig or sk then right? can't think of an immediate reason for mafia to make this claim.-
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Why shouldn't we discuss if they are SK?-
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I think probably is the wrong word. I don't see how they could possibly be partneredIn post 1307, OopsieDaisy wrote: Knowing the source of the extra kills is Imag also means we can rule out any teams with Imag. I was worried about Ketchup/Imag at the end of yesterday but that probably isn't a thing anymore.-
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Does this mean there's guaranteed to be a scum roleblocker?In post 1298, imaginality wrote: This also means I know we're in TTTT (or TT possibly if there are two more non-T results, so 1-2 more PRs; 0T seems too unlikely to consider it a possibility).-
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Would you be down to vote Daisy first?In post 1327, halfasleep wrote: i still think the enchant/daisy team is pretty likely. i don't think my impression of daisy and elements looking partnered was wrong and enchant was borderline openwolfing yesternight. ketchup's post about black above is pretty wild (though the mechposting so far tonight looks fairly genuine) but if ketchup is scum i'm struggling to see him partnered with enchant, which would make me worried my townvibe on black is wrong and they're bussing.
i think it's probably just enchant/daisy, though. vote enchant imo.-
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Nah I'm good
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Things change-
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I'll explain when I'm ready-
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In post 1294, Black wrote:In post 1291, halfasleep wrote: voted experience to follow the majority. i want enchant or ketchup today. preference for enchant.