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Post Post #22 (isolation #0) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:00 pm

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Post Post #45 (isolation #1) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:40 pm

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gonna nominate myself out of spite

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Post Post #89 (isolation #2) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:08 pm

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Post Post #199 (isolation #3) » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:29 am

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In post 141, Aventurine wrote: I’m finding I have this gut feeling about Moros that is generally negative. It’s weird, because I’ve agreed with a lot of the ideas it’s been posting, but I can’t help but feel that there is something wrong here.

This stands out to me as off for some reason
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Post Post #200 (isolation #4) » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:37 am

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Post Post #226 (isolation #5) » Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:10 pm

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In post 224, Moros wrote: ceejayvinoya i worry that he could be trying to look like he isn't trying to get townread. the passivity feels deliberate.

sorry but this is how I usually roll

also I fail to see how this could be worrying
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Post Post #227 (isolation #6) » Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:11 pm

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In post 225, Moros wrote: aventurine seems ok to me.

??????????
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Post Post #232 (isolation #7) » Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:39 pm

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In post 230, implosion wrote: words simply cannot express how voraciously i anticipate aventurine's takes. Each passing minute a torture.

ceejay, care to like, justify any of your takes or give us a sense of where you're at broadly?

i mean as long as aventurine is nowhere near the coalition am okay

their approach to the game strikes me as unnatural compared to everyone else and I greatly dislike the lack of concrete thoughts coming from that direction

cutter b most prob town just from how earnest i feel they are. Not sure if thats the correct word but its the first one I thought of

I feel comfortable placing you and Black as town

As for moros I feel that theyre mostly okay but its also the one I'm least confident on. this could also easily be may
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Post Post #240 (isolation #8) » Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:17 pm

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HURT: moros
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Post Post #244 (isolation #9) » Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:37 pm

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In post 243, Moros wrote:
In post 227, ceejayvinoya wrote:
In post 225, Moros wrote: aventurine seems ok to me.

??????????
i think it hasn't done very much that feels more likely to be scum or more likely to be town. you don't agree?

but this is exactly what worries me about aventurine

you can tell that they're posting, but you can also tell there is not enough substance in their posts to figure out "is this scummy?" or "is this towny?"

it feels like doing something just for the sake of doing something

and that's not very town
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Post Post #247 (isolation #10) » Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:59 pm

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In post 246, Moros wrote: i use "ok" to mean i am not townreading the person but i am setting them aside for now. it's more neutral. i don't think i agree with ceejayvinoya's approach to reading aventurine.

what would scum do?

what would town do?

am not asking for specifics. Just a general idea of what you expect to see from both alignments
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Post Post #249 (isolation #11) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:56 am

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i mean... you're not wrong

I just wish your answer was less mechanics related

nvm i guess
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Post Post #278 (isolation #12) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:25 pm

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In post 274, Aventurine wrote: HURT: ceejayvinoya, for now

oh no i am hurt dear friend

or maybe not considering i dont even know why i was even in your list

also remind me why umlaut is not on your list when you implied that they might likely be town on an earlier post?
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Post Post #280 (isolation #13) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:53 pm

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thats more of a non answer than an answer :dead:

I guess I'll just have to set my expectations low when trying to get through to you
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Post Post #281 (isolation #14) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:54 pm

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In post 250, Moros wrote:
In post 249, ceejayvinoya wrote: i mean... you're not wrong

I just wish your answer was less mechanics related

nvm i guess
i can elaborate if the answer was inadequate. you asked for general and nonspecific. i don't think my answer was mechanics related, it's about how i expect players would play the game. they would exist with those minds and goals and their play would show signs of that.

am not going to argue with you on this one since i alr pretty much see where you're coming from
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Post Post #284 (isolation #15) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:59 pm

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In post 141, Aventurine wrote: I’m finding I have this gut feeling about Moros that is generally negative. It’s weird, because I’ve agreed with a lot of the ideas it’s been posting, but I can’t help but feel that there is something wrong here.

tell me more about this post
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Post Post #348 (isolation #16) » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:57 am

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In post 265, Black wrote: viewtopic.php?t=92492&user_select%5B%5D=31320

This is ceejay's ISO that game. It definitely seems like he was trying to make a conscious effort to seem involved
In post 266, May wrote: I don't think he's making less effort to seem participatory here

I acknowledge that I see these posts but at the same time I don't really have anything to say about this unless you directly ask me something specific about that game or something

idk I just felt like calling this out
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Post Post #349 (isolation #17) » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:02 am

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In post 267, implosion wrote:
In post 232, ceejayvinoya wrote: I feel comfortable placing you and Black as town
Where does this come from? Is it by some comparison of our play with the 9:12 game, or otherwise?

yes? you and Black's play here have been really straightforward on trying to figure out alignments and having some knowledge on how you and Black play based on that game I feel like kind of reinforces my read to some extent
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Post Post #350 (isolation #18) » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:06 am

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In post 285, Aventurine wrote: I do remember a prior post where Moros remarked that someone was looking like they were intentionally trying to look like they didn't want to be townread and that was worrying, and the subject of the post responded to it with something along the lines of "I fail to see how that would be worrying"(?)
The reason why it's worrying is because not trying to be townread is a towntell, but intentionally not trying to be townread looks like you're trying to mimic this towntell and that more likely than not comes from scum

isn't it easier to just aim to get townread than to go through this? I don't get it but okay I guess
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Post Post #351 (isolation #19) » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:07 am

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In post 276, Aventurine wrote: Oh, a pagetop. how pleasant
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Post Post #352 (isolation #20) » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:09 am

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Post Post #353 (isolation #21) » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:11 am

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In post 311, implosion wrote: Also an open question to people broadly: how do you feel about compromising? I feel like the current state of the game is very, people describing Their Coalition. It feels like there's relatively little working together to build cohesion - there's a bit in that Black came to agree with Tsawwassen but on the whole it feels a bit like in this gamestate people aren't going to compromise a whole lot. Which is totally fine right now given how much time we have until deadline but I just want to throw out there that, eventually, it will become less okay.

How do you suggest we go about this?
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Post Post #354 (isolation #22) » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:15 am

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In post 345, Moros wrote: i liked black and implosion's reactions to it the most, they felt real to me, like they wanted to look for town. ceejay i am most suspicious of now i think.

spooky. care to expand or do I have to slowly draw it out of you
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Post Post #355 (isolation #23) » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:16 am

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Post Post #356 (isolation #24) » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:19 am

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I really wouldn't like to add Aventurine to the coalition. It would be annoying later if this doesn't work out and we have to figure out if he's scum or town

that's just me though
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