Open 891: STDBINSBICACOT (Game Over)

Titus · Post Post #64 (isolation #0) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:33 am

In post 27, shaddowez wrote:
In post 2, Ausuka wrote:
TRAITOR
Welcome!

You are a Traitor.

You win when at least 50% of living players are Mafia, or nothing can prevent the same.

Your partners are X and Y, but you cannot talk to them unless you are recruited. If you are the last Mafia left alive (and are still a Traitor), you will be endgamed.

The game thread is here.

Please confirm by replying with your alignment.

Setup has a traitor in it, so everyone knows there's a traitor

Probable. They may have recruited it.

Titus · Post Post #66 (isolation #1) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:35 am

I'm not speculating or setup speccing. I'd rather have an RVS.

VOTE: shaddowez

Titus · Post Post #82 (isolation #2) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:25 am

In post 81, pisskop wrote: I dont have a strong opinion about Roden's grilling, but I tend to view how black dug in less favorably.

Titus just sidestepped the whole thing. which isnt terribly indicative either way.

Do you view it less favorably in the disagrees with you way or scummy way?

Titus · Post Post #92 (isolation #3) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:51 am

Odd opening fr from gob.

Titus · Post Post #93 (isolation #4) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:51 am

Odd in confusing null way

Titus · Post Post #97 (isolation #5) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:55 am

In post 95, gob wrote:
In post 93, Titus wrote: Odd in confusing null way
You gonna prot me?

Prot?

Titus · Post Post #99 (isolation #6) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:59 am

I was voting shadow but I think gob is town.

Titus · Post Post #100 (isolation #7) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:00 am

VOTE: davesaz

Wagons ahoy!

Titus · Post Post #102 (isolation #8) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:01 am

In post 101, Black wrote:
In post 91, gob wrote: What seems to be the problem, Black?
I don't like the claim but I guess we should believe you

I don't like 95 either but I think you just play weird

Why should we believe gob? That's a decent possible gambit.

Titus · Post Post #105 (isolation #9) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:21 am

VOTE: Black

Titus · Post Post #110 (isolation #10) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:36 am

In post 106, Black wrote: Go on

Feels like you're acting as if you know he's town or that you believe there's not enough "points" for a cop claim. Your interaction feels fake.

Titus · Post Post #116 (isolation #11) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:55 am

Gob join me

Titus · Post Post #118 (isolation #12) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:57 am

Voting black

Titus · Post Post #121 (isolation #13) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:25 pm

In post 119, gob wrote: No. Are you scum with davesaz, Titus? Seems you jumped off them quickly

I got a scumread. Scumread > for wagons.

Titus · Post Post #127 (isolation #14) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:46 pm

In post 124, Black wrote: Titus's reasoning here doesn't really feel pure. The only way I could question if there are enough points for a legit Cop claim would be if I were a 2 point PR myself and assumed the scum took no abilities. The reason for voting me doesn't check out

There was an or in that statement. Pretty convenient you left that out.

Titus · Post Post #128 (isolation #15) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:46 pm

In post 125, Black wrote: And then she just ignores me when I pointed that out

FeelsWeirdMan

I am driving

Titus · Post Post #134 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:21 pm

In post 133, Black wrote:
In post 127, Titus wrote:
In post 124, Black wrote: Titus's reasoning here doesn't really feel pure. The only way I could question if there are enough points for a legit Cop claim would be if I were a 2 point PR myself and assumed the scum took no abilities. The reason for voting me doesn't check out
There was an or in that statement. Pretty convenient you left that out.
Your "you might know he's town" reasoning feels better and I can't really argue against you there. I'm just not sure why you included the second reasoning

Because it's what snapped into my head...stream of consciousness yo

Titus · Post Post #136 (isolation #17) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:22 pm

In post 130, Roden wrote: Black/Titus feels TvT

Why

Titus · Post Post #139 (isolation #18) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:35 pm

In post 138, Roden wrote:
In post 136, Titus wrote:
In post 130, Roden wrote: Black/Titus feels TvT
Why
You're both arguing to be right instead of trying to survive or scum case each other

Or at least, it reads as the primary motivation

Trying to scumcase Black would be more indication of arguing to be right? Huh...

Titus · Post Post #160 (isolation #19) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:59 pm

In post 151, pisskop wrote: Titus is saying youre posting like youre informed of more info than the rest of us have, I think.

Less about 'you know there is a cop' and more 'you know how many points there are so can hedge your bets'

but stop me if I sound crazy

That

Titus · Post Post #161 (isolation #20) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:00 pm

VOTE: Roden

I like Black's response here.

Titus · Post Post #163 (isolation #21) » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:13 pm

Because I liked 152.

Titus · Post Post #239 (isolation #22) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:19 am

How does a Drew Roden team look?

Titus · Post Post #280 (isolation #23) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 5:33 am

In post 277, davesaz wrote: I need solid townreads this game, much more solid than typical for me^*. They need to be my reads, not merely consensus. Black's approach looks towny. I'd be hard pressed to remember anyone else who has even made an impression, though a big part of that has to do with RL distractions so I don't mean any offense by it.

^*A bit of self meta that should be verifiable by almost anyone who has played multiple games with me, I pretty much never lock anyone, especially in the case where a bunch of people say it's obv and I don't see it.

Ok. Think about this. Roden's probably froze and scum are hoping for a distraction.

Titus · Post Post #411 (isolation #24) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 4:50 pm

In post 409, Black wrote: Albert B. Now I'm trolling smh

That person can stay gone.

Titus · Post Post #412 (isolation #25) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 4:51 pm

Don't meta me. I'm so old I've done almost everything.

Titus · Post Post #438 (isolation #26) » Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:10 am

We do need a wagon here to get things going. I don't like it's on me. Part of me debated voting Black for the sake of a counter but I lean town on her. SS might be whiteknighting.

I like shaddowez recent post too.

Pisskop please use she/her for me.

Titus · Post Post #440 (isolation #27) » Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:31 am

I don't like the defenses on vacant dlots. Even though policy lims are bad, we could run into the situation that only town are active.

Titus · Post Post #451 (isolation #28) » Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:48 am

In post 444, Dunnstral wrote: It feels like Titus voted Roden and then disappeared. I didn't like the implication that Roden was "Frozen" as I took that to mean that Roden was having trouble with what to say when in reality it seemed Roden was just away from the game.

I didn't disappear. Game has been dead + me sick

Titus · Post Post #454 (isolation #29) » Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:01 am

In post 453, Black wrote:
In post 451, Titus wrote:
In post 444, Dunnstral wrote: It feels like Titus voted Roden and then disappeared. I didn't like the implication that Roden was "Frozen" as I took that to mean that Roden was having trouble with what to say when in reality it seemed Roden was just away from the game.
I didn't disappear. Game has been dead + me sick
I feel like there has been plenty of stuff to comment on, but I do hope you feel better

I've commented on what I feel is relevant but I read people in relation to others. With no wagons, it's hard to get going

Titus · Post Post #511 (isolation #30) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:55 am

Shaddow Roden Dunn? Dunn might be beard though. We don't really get along sometimes.

VOTE: Shaddowez

I don't like how much defense Roden has ftr.

Titus · Post Post #512 (isolation #31) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:56 am

In post 481, Black wrote: I'm always down to let Alisae cook

I'm okay with that if we see some cooking by EoD.

Titus · Post Post #513 (isolation #32) » Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:02 am

I don't see Roden asking for examples of him freezing in another game like his last post suggests. I don't need examples of him freezing in the past to seee he's freezing here. There's no interaction w anyone else's posts.

Titus · Post Post #569 (isolation #33) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:23 am

In post 566, Something_Smart wrote: Shaddow's ISO is unimpressive. Not bad per se, I think maybe he was a bad choice to wagon like this because he's known to be V/LA over weekends.

If shaddow is town, there's potentially some valuable information from the way his wagon rose and then the thread completely stalled. I have ideas but I would want to hear his thoughts on it before I say anything.

Agree with this although site activity plummets during the weekend.

Titus · Post Post #624 (isolation #34) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:05 am

I haven't caught up due to fatigue but I don't like a Crescent lim here.

I'm sorry for what I said that made you feel like you do Crescent.

Titus · Post Post #708 (isolation #35) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:50 am

In post 683, Roden wrote: Titus has been obvscum since the first 24 hours of the game and Black has tried to start like five different wagons to distract everyone

It's mind boggling that no one seems to see that

No. You have been obvious scum since go. You got defended based upon being a lurker and now you basically try to link people to me when I've postulated that most but not all of the wagons have been on your partners.

Titus · Post Post #709 (isolation #36) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:51 am

In post 707, gob wrote: ^ just a funny joke.

I think Titus' first post is likely from scum. She comes in very formal quoting someone. Also later on she starts sorting people like "X is town" or "X is scum" which I think scum does when they want everyone to know 100% where their reads are.

Gob, I am formal and straight up. I think like a lawyer. Input facts, get conclusion. You should be worried if I am not theory crafting and keeping my options open.

Titus · Post Post #710 (isolation #37) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:53 am

In post 696, Black wrote: Sorta. When Drew voted Crescent it made me think Drew could be onto something, and he's been adamant about his Titus TR so I was willing to trust him there and look elsewhere

I think Drew is whiteknighting me tbf.

It's shaddowez Roden Drew.

Titus · Post Post #714 (isolation #38) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:03 pm

Black, you get into this thing where you feel thoughts that disagree with you aren't real and it's frustrating. My reads have been particularly clear and you dismiss them out of hand.

I don't accept TRs based off IRL. I deny that as scum and town. It's patently unfair. IRL is null.

Titus · Post Post #715 (isolation #39) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:03 pm

In post 713, Something_Smart wrote: Titus usually takes a while to get going, right?

Somewhat but this game has a pretty decent solve to it, just I feel that no one's listening.

Titus · Post Post #716 (isolation #40) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:04 pm

In post 711, gob wrote: I don't think it's Roden.

Why? What has he done other than shade me?

Titus · Post Post #723 (isolation #41) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:11 pm

In post 722, davesaz wrote:
In post 720, gob wrote:
In post 719, davesaz wrote: You're triggering my tendency to SR people who say they have a team solve d1.
This doesnt seem like too useful of a post. It is just light shading Titus and nothing more.
A decent percentage of what I post is notes to myself.

I don't consider this shading fwiw. Indicating biases can be townish. It can be an excuse but is usually town.

Titus · Post Post #725 (isolation #42) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:11 pm

In post 721, Black wrote: Like if I'm wrong then I'm sorry, but that's part of the game. Trying to figure out who is faking the shit they are saying

Like I get people can be wrong, but you need to look at that flaw in your scumhunting.

Titus · Post Post #728 (isolation #43) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:16 pm

In post 565, Ausuka wrote:
Votecount 1.7

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-11-09 14:36:08).

Votecount
shaddowez (5)
- gob, Black, Alisae, Titus, Doctor Drew

Titus (3)
- shaddowez, Roden, Dunnstral

pisskop (2)
- Dannflor, Crescent

Black (1)
- pisskop

Not Voting (2)
- davesaz, Something_Smart

Flavour

Just want to highlight the near zero overlap between the wagons but for Black.

Titus · Post Post #731 (isolation #44) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:20 pm

In post 729, Black wrote: It's weird that you seem convinced I'm town here instead of scum coming up with stuff to SR you. It feels like you know I'm town and you're trying to make me doubt myself

I had that out with you at the start of the game. You haven't done anything scummy since. You've been wagon hopping but some people play like that. I find the most vocal wagon hoppers tend to scumread town constantly for disagreeing and let lurking/agreeable scum go. In short, you're a beard.

Once I lock at town d1, I rarely change it.

Titus · Post Post #733 (isolation #45) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:26 pm

In post 732, Black wrote:
In post 731, Titus wrote:
In post 729, Black wrote: It's weird that you seem convinced I'm town here instead of scum coming up with stuff to SR you. It feels like you know I'm town and you're trying to make me doubt myself
I had that out with you at the start of the game. You haven't done anything scummy since. You've been wagon hopping but some people play like that. I find the most vocal wagon hoppers tend to scumread town constantly for disagreeing and let lurking/agreeable scum go. In short, you're a beard.

Once I lock at town d1, I rarely change it.
I thought I was just a town lean but now I'm locked? Why did you consider voting someone you think is locktown?

Did I typo somewhere?

Titus · Post Post #734 (isolation #46) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:27 pm

That tone is meant concerned but I'm seriously considering limiting to just my answer unless saving myself.

Titus · Post Post #736 (isolation #47) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:31 pm

In post 735, Black wrote: 438 you said you lean town on me

Right and I said I debated voting you but I couldn't bring myself to do it. It's pretty clear I won't vote town here. That post was also made before I fell ill

Titus · Post Post #739 (isolation #48) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:36 pm

Sigh how has Roden gotten better

Titus · Post Post #741 (isolation #49) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:42 pm

I accidentally posted in the wrong game so I have to claim here. I'm the rolecop.

Titus · Post Post #744 (isolation #50) » Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:11 pm

In post 743, Black wrote:
In post 741, Titus wrote: I accidentally posted in the wrong game so I have to claim here. I'm the rolecop.
What do you mean by the first part? Were you planning to claim and accidently did it in another game?

Run up in multiple games. So I put my role in another game. :/ So I had to claim here.

Titus · Post Post #768 (isolation #51) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 6:42 am

In post 763, Something_Smart wrote: Well I'm less than thrilled with the events of the last few pages, but I agree that Titus should be left alone for now. Even if she's a scum rolecop her ability to benefit scum is severely curtailed by her need to share her results.

There is no scum rolecop in this setup.

Titus · Post Post #773 (isolation #52) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:13 am

Roleblocker
Rolecop Tracker (rolecops and tracks a single target)
Ascetic Informed (knows the full setup)
Bulletproof Godfather (appears as innocent to the Cop and Vanilla to the rolecop)
Modified Rolestopper (Rolestops all abilities except kills on the target)
Recruit Traitor

These are scum choices

No rolecop

Titus · Post Post #774 (isolation #53) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:13 am

Oh wait misread

Titus · Post Post #775 (isolation #54) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:14 am

I thought that was a tracker for me

Titus · Post Post #1915 (isolation #55) » Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:26 am

Sorry people.