Open 891: STDBINSBICACOT (Game Over)

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VOTE: davesaz

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I think if this flips red then SS could be partnered

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davesaz is the only slot that has posted so far that i feel is greater than rand to be scum

black feels towny

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Dann that reminds me, I wanted to ask you something. I might as well ask it here even though it's not related to the game. How much did you compare my play between Mini Normal 2313 and Open 885 while they were ongoing? Did playing with me in those games simultaneously have any effect on your read on me in either game?

i try not to let bleed between simultaneous games influence me too much but obviously it does still happen

so to some degree my scum read of you in open 885 did probably influence my town read of you in the mini normal

but i'd like to think i was mostly comparing both games to previously completed games of yours that I read rather than to each other because i couldn't be 100% of your alignment in either one while it was on-going

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vote davesaz because im already voting there

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I think Dunn's post comes from scum, and thought it was clear I think that from my vote post.

why does it come from scum

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davesaz is the only slot that has posted so far that i feel is greater than rand to be scum

This is an example of what gob thinks is scum indicative -- giving a reason that isn't actually a reason.

i think dunnstral's opening was very easy to hop on and you did so without actually digging into what was alignment indicative about it

you just kinda shouted "gross" and voted dunn which feels a little performative and not like you actually care about what dunn's alignment is or showing other people what dunn's alignment might be

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davesaz is the only slot that has posted so far that i feel is greater than rand to be scum

This is an example of what gob thinks is scum indicative -- giving a reason that isn't actually a reason.

i think dunnstral's opening was very easy to hop on and you did so without actually digging into what was alignment indicative about it

you just kinda shouted "gross" and voted dunn which feels a little performative and not like you actually care about what dunn's alignment is or showing other people what dunn's alignment might be

Using pregame replacement spec is scummy, full stop.

can you elucidate why you think this is something more likely to come from a red role pm rather than a green role pm?

"using pregame replacement spec is scummy" is actually something that requires some elaboration and I'd like to see some depth of thought here because it looked like to me dunnstral was trying to drive the game forward, and while I think he could've entered the game with that analysis as scum there is nothing that indicates to me that was more likely to be the case

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im also here, apologies for my absence

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one day I'll be able to read Something_Smart

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are you scum reading dunnstral davesaz

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are you scum reading dunnstral davesaz

The most accurate response is that I'm not townreading him. I'm curious why this is so important to you.

i'm not sure why you care about dunnstral's anti-town maybe-scummy entrance if you weren't scum reading him

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kinda think davesaz wanting people to specifically look at his words about dunnstral and respond to them is generally more likely to come from town

at least in this specific situation where the words he is writing about dunnstral are pretty hedgey and unlikely to make anyone town read him for *content*

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I don't mind the Roden wagon at all but kinda feels useless to wagon there until a replacement comes in

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gob feels distinctly different from the scum game i just finished with him

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how do you feel about VOTE: pisskop instead

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i just read through 30 posts of his iso and struggled to pick out anything i'd really call a stance or someone trying to figure out people's alignments

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I dont have a strong opinion about Roden's grilling, but I tend to view how black dug in less favorably.

Titus just sidestepped the whole thing. which isnt terribly indicative either way.

like

this is just words

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early-ish but still plenty of pushes and game content to focus on

idk it just feels like he's offering commentary on the game not actually playing the game

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idk it just feels like he's offering commentary on the game not actually playing the game

Unfortunately, I can empathize with being on the wrong end of this accusation.

We'll see how he responds to it though, because it's probably not the same way I would.

okay but I know that you tend to play like that and can adjust my read accordingly

im not used to pisskop playing like this necessarily

while I think he tends towards being more passive i would have expected him to find something to push / prod upon by this point

he's not as passive as you (no offense) in my experience

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drew is also a good scum candidate

i just read their iso for the first time

I'd be happy if he and pisskop were the competing wagons

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titus i actually feel is more likely town than not

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I am

VL/A for 28 hours or so

I will at least try to catch up and change my vote if i feel the need to in a few hours

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sorry about the v/la I'm back fully and catching up this morning

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hi i am reading but it would be helpful too if someone summed up the current cases against crescent and shadowez

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okay

i am caught up

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i think crescent is more likely town than not

I think the pushing pisskop and reading shadowez as town is a little "town conspiracy theory brain" and crescent seems very unconcerned about optics in her push. like hedging/defending shadowez does not LOOK good from her position and I think it's very likely crescent is town who thinks she has caught scum

that being said, im also leaning pisskop town now. I think his reaction to being pushed mostly being full of "ugh annoyance im town by meta" energy is like a little more likely to come from town. i think his jump from black to crescent is pretty natural and scum in his position would be a little more careful about looking too OMGUSy

alisae is probably town ? i don't have a lot to say about this read other than that their entrance was strong, good slot

black is still town - i don't think I really have to defend this. I think particularly her read and jump to alisae/crescent as partners based on associatives in alisae's read list and the timing of crescent's push on pisskop is just really unlikely to come from scum.

gob i still think this is his town game. i think gob is someone with a lot of bravado in his game as either alignment, but generally feels more fake overall as scum. even if he is scum im pretty confident this will get easier to sort over time.

[roden/titus/something_smart/dunnstral] are all in a pool of i don't really know. these are all difficult slots for me to read. if I had to choose a direction I would lean town on dunnstral and titus and lean scum on roden and something_smart. do not ask me to substantiate these reads.

i think shadowez and drew are both likely to be scum and likely to be partnered.

VOTE: shadowez

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i think shaddowez first reaction to being pushed being to provide an explanation of how he plays "not providing a ton of content," "being reactive," etc. in 603 is pretty scummy. I don't think this actually responds to the reasons people are wagoning him and it feels a bit preemptive in explaining why people shouldn't be scum reading him.

this being the initial reaction makes it seem that shaddowez is more interested in painting himself as town rather than finding scum. in particular, he doesn't seem super interested in finding the scum pushing him!


using the words "I will address a few of the glaring holes" in regards to 506 is indicative of a scum mindset imo

because i think scum is more likely to see cases and arguments as purely logical things that you can "win" by proving or disproving them. town are more likely to treat such things subjectively and treat Black as someone of unknown alignment. It feels like shaddowez is treating Black as someone he knows is town

attempts to figure out who is scum pushing him only comes after "disproving" points in black's case and defending himself, which I don't think indicates someone who's top priority is figuring out who is scum in the game

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616 gives reads on his wagon

the reads on alisae and Titus are ????

like, shaddowez can't come up with more convincing explanations for alisae!scum other than "alisae claimed to start my wagon despite being 3rd on it"??? he just alls Titus strange and nonsensical. The listing of [Alisae/Titus] as scum feels done for the sake of it, not because shaddowez really believes in it

I also think Drew was pressured into bussing by Alisae and Shaddowez' read on Drew's vote is partner indicative

like why is shaddowez town reading that but not titus

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654 also feels distancey


652 feels like an appeal to the crowd to help him rather than trying to determine alisae's alignment

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my scum read on drew is less strong but


"Argh, does this mean Titus is scum here potentially with Shadow?" in 548 is fake and performative

his hesitance to vote Shadow after Alisae asked him to (needing to check out his ISO) feels performative and scummy and possibly partner indicative. I think town Drew would be more likely to *just do it*

he also mentioned earlier that his alignment should be clear to people familiar with him. there are people familiar with him in this game and Drew isn't really going after anyone for that reason. I believe he just said that because he thinks town!Drew would say that, not because he actually believes it

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anyway

let's kill shadow and then Drew and then see where we're at

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oh davesaz is in this game

probably town

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why do you town read shadow

not particularly worried at the moment

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i liked crescent's 391

i feel like that type of read about titus and roden not being partnered is hard to fabricate for scum

it's not impossible crescent/shadowez is a thing but in that case i'd still rather go shadow first

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i liked crescent's 391

i feel like that type of read about titus and roden not being partnered is hard to fabricate for scum

it's not impossible crescent/shadowez is a thing but in that case i'd still rather go shadow first

391 feels super easy to fake since she would know Titus and Roden's alignments. It just seems like busywork to me. That's just my opinion at least

i disagree it's busy work

it was prompted by seeing your PoE

also knowing Titus and Roden's alignments doesn't make it easier to see why they couldn't be partnered necessarily, i think it's a fairly in depth read and it shows she's been reading the game pretty closely to be able to recall that quickly

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i am not like super confident on my crescent read

i think they could be scum

i just feel like shadow's reaction to pressure was especially bad

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if you scum read the slot who claimed it i think it makes sense

i made the same point in a game i just finished with black and it was a town process because i was uh town

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i do agree that crescent is probably more likely town partially because of that though

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Titus has been obvscum since the first 24 hours of the game and Black has tried to start like five different wagons to distract everyone

this doesn't feel like a very real world to me

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why

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you were outsourcing your titus read to drew previously?

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why is titus scum

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no, the onus on you

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i can buy a shadow drew dunn team

i still don't really think titus is scum

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roden has gotten better in my estimation too

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to be clear, i think roden's perspective on the game is kind of insane and i think he's in no position to be saying it's mindboggling for people to not recognize titus as obv scum?

i actually thought that was pretty scummy initially because like that is not a realistic viewpoint


but i think there are worlds where it comes from town projecting and i think 692 is relatively towny

i don't think he's like ultra town but eh

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i would agree

idk i don't mean to be uncooperative but i still want shaddow and don't have a good reason to town read the slot

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shaddowez flip waiting room

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well that’s unfortunate

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VOTE: roden

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????

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surely you can boost that up to 1 in 2.9 with copious amounts of data scraping

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why are you not a fan of that vote

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VOTE: Dannflor

The solve in 737 is way off and his vote on Roden doesn't really match his 738

There's some other stuff in the ISO I don't like but all in all the read here isn't strong, I just think we might be getting played by scum Dann here

why would i not reevaluate if my solve is off

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like do you have a problem with my reads being off but also a problem with me reevaluating my reads in light of the flips ?

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I think you would have walked us through your thought process

i don't know where you get this assumption

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I think town!you would have spent more time than just a few minutes of re-evaluating

i don't know where you get the assumption i only spent a few minutes or that im done re-evaluating

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I think Roden is probably the best vote you could've opened the day with if you're scum here

this means nothing

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honestly black this feels incredibly shallow

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VOTE: black

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so shadow was probably shot by a vig, making dunn the night kill

i imagine dunn was probably killed as a low info kill who was mostly out of the PoE and maybe had some correct reads

most notably later in the iso Dunn was town reading crescent and drew and scum reading roden

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the fact you haven't reevaluated your crescent read yet is bothering me

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There's no way you can possibly think shallow is a scumtell of mine after games we played recently. This isn't a real thought

I thought your depth of thought was much easier to see in the mini normal and that is the reason I town read you there

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Well, you saw the flips and then voted for Roden right after. Why would you vote for Roden if you're not done re-evaluating your read on him?

because i think getting votes going is way more important than waiting until i think ive solved the game anew

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gob please tell me you aren't faking

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lol

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okey VOTE: pisskop

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VOTE: black

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I don't understand why scum would hit Dunn over Dann here if Dann is town. I don't think a single person in the game scumread Dann while Dunn was in multiple solves

The answer is Dann is probably just scum

why would scum kill me if i was tunneling shadowez

black

please god if you're town here I need to have an actual talk with you

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I am mostly worried you saw ausuka tunnel me in backup6 and decided that hard pushing me was the best way to handle my slot

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I feel like there was a lot of hullabaloo about Dann voting me but he didn't even say why he voted me yet

mostly didn't like your push on titus

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UNVOTE:

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hi, took an intentional break from this game yesterday

I’ll be back in a few hours

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VOTE: davesaz

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hey so im actually here and catching up now, im sorry this weekend was hell

I'll also be around for the next 3-4 hours to chat real time

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Black are you still scum reading me or did that go away

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okay

I did get very frustrated then

I probably shouldn't have and with the benefit of time apart from the moment I don't think your push on me was scum indicative like I feared it was in the moment

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it also had crossed my mind that the Dunn kill maybe implicated you, Black

like I think you're a likely night kill candidate as town and Dunn really isn't, so maybe scum!you wouldn't want to kill me and make yourself stand out more

but you're kinda right that a similar argument applies to me (disregarding the fact that some portion of my reads were off d1)

I'm currently trying to reevaluate from the lens of, who was generally town read and content to let the loud voices like you and me push miselims?

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when I entered the thread a couple days ago with that thought my gut instinct was davesaz

I have not finished reading so idk if i still agree with that but that was my initial thought

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the roden slot I just don't like how they treated titus and the "omg titus has been obv scum since 24 hours since the game started" still rings as so fake in my mind

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I think dunn was probably killed for some combination of being a suspect pr and his reads

i would be more inclined to look at his town reads

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I think scum generally are more likely to take out people with correct town reads when those correct town reads could be in the lim pool otherwise

I mean you were pushing crescent pretty hard d1 along with others so taking out a defender of that slot if you're scum and crescent is town makes sense

i don't specifically think dunn could've been a PR but I imagine scum could've gotten a read like that on him

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and like from scum!crescent's POV it doesn't really make sense to kill one of your defenders when you've got a couple loud attackers on you

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so that makes me inclined to town read Gamma

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I mean you were pushing crescent pretty hard d1 along with others so taking out a defender of that slot if you're scum and crescent is town makes sense

Wouldn't it makes sense for me to push Crescent at some point today if I were scum taking out her defenders?

I'm not saying your scum

I'm operating in a world where we are town pushing mis elims

I think this world is pretty viable because I know I'm town and I was left alive to push flipped town shaddowez

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I am interested in what Dannflor's read is on me. Seems he hasn't interacted with many of my posts this game.

I am reading you as town

I do not think I am going to get anything out of interacting with you sorry

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I started out scum reading him but later revised him to a town read

okay time to buckle down and actually read this day and see if i can get anything alignment indicative out of it

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people town leaning gob is weird

i feel like he should be hard town or hard scum lol

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anything that starts with you quoting a VC is not going to be easy for me to engage with

for example your scum read on crescent does nothing for me

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@Roden why are you town reading Dave and Something Smart

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i really don't like 841 especially the first line, it feels like davesaz didn't want to actually say anything content wise but felt compelled to say *something* of seeming substance

i don't like 861 because A. I think saying it's not obvious which kill was which feels like feigning ignorance in order to look uninformed whereas I think a townie is just going to make certain assumptions and B. states the obvious

862 comments on gob because I feel like dave feels like he should but doesn't actually SAY anything about Gob

idk gob, you wanna talk about fence sitty?

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1111 is weird too and feels out of sync with the game

why am i a top town read despite barely posting today

why is black a top town read and davesaz had basically nothing to say about my spat with black

the read on something_smart is weak sauce and I feel like a townie would have stronger reasons to vote someone at this point in the game then "i don't remember what they posted"

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i think gob has far more depth of play in this game than they usually do as scum

it's not impossible they are informed ascetic scum pulling a gambit but i kinda of assume that will become clear with time

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gob gamma and black are all slots i just wanna town bin and not think about rnow

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which leaves S_S, Roden, davesaz, Alisae, Psyche, Taly

Taly
Psyche
Alisae
S_S
Roden
Davesaz

and i think they are towny to scummy in somewhat this order atm

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he was town in DEFCON 6 and i think his play there is quite distinct from his scum game

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anyway I'd kill davesaz or roden

I could compromise on S_S but that doesn't feel *great* to me

not voting anywhere else right now

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i think gob likes to rely on moon logic and VCA quite a lot as both alignments

the difference is in his town game he actually mixes it in with reads from real time interaction and tone reads and yknow, the type of stuff actual human town players use to play the game

whereas he kinda relies almost entirely on the former as scum and hopes to be bat shit insane enough to get town read for it

at least that is the impression i got from the mini normal

i admit the circumstances are a little different because he was much more scum read in the mini normal, but i think this game is closer to Def Con overall than that game.

I do think gob might be the type of scum player to do something ridiculous like claiming cop. but there's enough there I don't really need to consider that slot more for today

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VOTE: roden

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okay what about roden davesaz

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Dave you have been pretty quiet wrt Roden. What are your thoughts on his slot?

As far as I can tell, I haven't had thoughts about him specifically. I disliked it when someone pushed him because that push felt fake.

do you have any thoughts about him specifically

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VOTE: something_smart

im fine with this

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ill just vote whoever in [something_smart, roden, davesaz]

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why is dave a town read for you taly

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Tone. Not a convincing read. I don't get the impression they have an agenda or are dwyaing people intentionally in any certain direction.

Why do you scumread

dave

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roden

i feel like you are arguing that black's arguments are bad rather than arguing that black is scum

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roden

i feel like you are arguing that black's arguments are bad rather than arguing that black is scum

Scum can make bad arguments my dude

im not arguing that

i just feel your push against black is out of annoyance i don't really see you arguing that what she is doing makes her scum

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and im not saying that is scummy even im just pointing that out

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VOTE: black

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davesaz is still scummy

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well now we have to kill u since u claimed vt

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I voted you because your ali case was scummy

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The third is probably someone like Gob or SS

Gob's most recent posting about Roden feels slimy and informed. Like he went from saying "I don't think it's Roden" D1 when a wagon was forming there, to saying "I don't townread Roden" to "I haven't read him but I think he's town because of the way he's being pushed" to "I've read him and his stuff feels good". This read feels all over the place. And yeah I still can't shake the feeling that he's got the Informed role with the cop claim but again that ties into never being able to fully convince myself of anything

SS just exists but most scumteams need a lurker I suppose

This is just kinda how gob talks about his reads

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Prepare for disappointment

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VOTE: davesaz

I was promised this after Black

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[ss, gamma, psyche, davesaz]

can all scum be in here

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I voted you because your ali case was scummy

Why though? My thought progression on her read on me being fake is pretty clear and no one seems to want to tell me why it's scummy, just a bunch of naked votes. Why are you so selective when it comes to giving analysis? Remember your case on me D1 when I was scum? Why don't you put that much effort into every game you play?

well right now i am in bed on mobile

I also have way less time to play mafia than i did in that game

whether or not i make cases is not alignment indicative if that is what you are getting at

I can case as a factor of time that i have

I’m not really going to be able to satisfy you with why i thought your ali case was scummy

It was partially timing and partially the was it was presented and partially that i think ali is town

It seemed like your goal was to slam dunk ali not actually figure out eir alignment

but also i kinda get that feeling whenever you push a scum read so maybe that was wrong

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Dude no shot you are just removing me from the solve all together lmao. You were willing to fade me while I was asleep

sigh

if you are town this is mini normal times all over again

Like you were convinced i was scum because i kept changing my mind on BlackStar

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i am trying to be correct so i will change my mind as many times as it takes for me to be correct

Conviction is not something that comes easily to me

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Black why don’t you want to go dave

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Black why don’t you want to go dave

Because I think you're scum trying to run everyone up to a claim without any care who gets faded. You're trying to find the PRs

Can you talk about your read on dave

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okay

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I would like to kill davesaz

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I think scum!black has a little more consistency

I am learning

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And i think scum black would have more self awareness about posts like 1426

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I think scum!black has a little more consistency

I am learning

You should have already known this. You had me figured out before this game which is why your shifting read and vote on me isn't believable from mypov

you hold me to too high a standard

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Dave is actively scummy

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Gamma I think is town

Psyche could be scum and SS could be scum but i do not feel strongly about either prospect

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Gamma town comes pretty much entirely from Crescent for whatever that is worth

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Ok, this is a game that is dominated by a few high posters while others are doing absolutely nothing, like Alisae. She has three posts, and no content, and possibly the single laziest vote in the game.

Almost all commentary revolving around Dave feels superficial, especially the votes. He feels like a topic that exists for the sake of being a topic. Dunnstral has basically done nothing of any relevance at all, but he's gotten votes out of it. The votes on both of them feel cheap and not really based on solving.

Odd sequence: Titus votes Black. Drew votes Black. Roden calls Titus and Black both town, and Gob says he doesn't like Roden. Drew then responds to Gob saying he also doesn't like Roden. Shortly after this, Black votes Roden. Titus changes her mind and votes Roden, and Drew immediately asks her why she's backing off on Black.

What Drew never provides however, are his own reasons to suspect Black or Rodon to begin with. He just sheeps people onto both of them, and then he questions why the first person he sheeped changed her mind. It doesn't feel like a natural town progression at all.

VOTE: Doctor Drew

Speaking of Gob, they feel like they're on crack, is this normal for them?

Shadow and Something feel like they're staying on the sidelines and only making fringe comments. Almost all of Dann's posts focus on Dave. All of them are low posters. These are three people I would like to see something more concrete from going forward.

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i think there is a good chance i have been wrong on crescent

i think it is maybe a mistake to continue town binning the slot only on the basis of the premature vt claim

rereading the early game crescent's posts remind me of a more pure distillation of what i found scummy about black's case on ali

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my most confident scum read is still davesaz though

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gamma that is not a reaction ive ever seen you have to a wagon as town

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gamma/davesaz/something_smart?

i should stop trying to team solve it is addicting but also bad for you

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VOTE: gamma

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roden feels very town and im not sure when that started

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you don't think we should be able to town read you?

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also do you realize you are basically claiming VT by saying this Gamma

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well I see people saying they SR me but want me to read before ending the day, I think I would rather people just make their call without putting that expectation and pressure on me
atp I will not read any more older pages until the night starts.

also like i don't really believe you wouldn't be trying to find scum on your wagon here even if you were resigned to going down as town

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I want to town read psyche

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i am not saying that

i am saying do you not think people should be able to town read you based on what you've posted so far

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gob is just a contrarian

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well black you have a thing where you scum read inconsistencies or players going against thread flow a lot of the time and i understand because those things looks scummy at first glance but i think unintuitively those things actually come from town way more of the time

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im not shutting you down i am expressing my view of gob

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i also think gamma is scum who doesn't want to play the game and i'd rather not get distracted

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I'm down to fade gamma but I think gob probably flips red regardless of gamma's alignment? Like I can see him both defending her and being informed that she's town here

black,

this is not a good read

you can tell because you said regardless of gamma's alignment

sorry this is probably rude but like reread this post

you're fitting gob!scum into both worlds because you already believe gob to be scum

you're fitting your read to the evidence not the other way around

[Dannflor]

i don't get why everyone thinks davesaz is towny tonally

alt slip

[Dannflor]

so true

[Dannflor]

i also think gamma is scum who doesn't want to play the game and i'd rather not get distracted

This feels wrong since I haven’t rolled scum in half a year (this figure is corrected since I had a game I forgot since I believe I was force-replaced out of it)
If I’m scum I at least have that going for me so there’s always some vested interest in playing things out

i guess i think you might feel differently replacing into a scum slot rather than rolling into a fresh one

[Dannflor]

gg

thanks for modding ausuka

thanks for the carry town