Open 892 | Nomination Mafia | Postgame

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VOTE: Khaos

this is a serious vote (everybody here will be able to tell you that i'm a very serious person)

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Welcome, Roulette!!

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He's obviously trying to get people to rack up gambling debts. That's how the Mafia operates, y'know.

I'm surprised no one has picked up on the fact that I type wirh a New Jersey accent when I roll scum

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Just three pages? I missed smaller games so much y'all have no idea.

Rough quickfire reads:

Black / Bellaphant
Merlyn / Roulette
KittyTacky / Aureal
Organized Khaos

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you think a shitpost with a typo at 7:30 am is tryhard?

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i had my coffee now but i still think it was funny :

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i think khaos just meant "big wagon"

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VOTE: KittyTacky

Acting concerned over sky's 2nd vote on the Khaos wagon is the only thing that has stood out to me so far. I feel like if he actually thought sky might be scum jumping on an easy wagon then he would have taken away his RVS vote in 39, especially considering Roulette also jumped on the wagon to put it at e-2. It feels like Kitty is perfectly fine with this fade going through but is putting on a facade to lessen his impact on the whole thing

this is actually why i had kitty so low but i always have kitty kinda low so

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i had my coffee now but i still think it was funny :

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I think it was funny too. I mean I don't trust you at all after Booney Toonz but yes it was funny

well it's a good thing i don't have the audacity to roll scum twice in a row

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yoink

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on second thought maybe aureal goes a notch up in my reads list

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you can't spell 'skygazer' without 'greasy'

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roulette seems townie

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glad we're all on the same page here

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i'm dead today. i'll be back tomorrow besties

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why is it when i'm scum i can have a game where i'm only voted four times (i counted) but when i'm town i'm always wagoned x_x

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anyways obligatory battle goose. had a bad day so be back 2morrow for real this time

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but if anyone has any further suggestions for how i can say beatle juice i'd be willing to post about that

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fetal moose

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hello im here

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i am going to SOLVE this GAME tonight

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i never actually solved the game last night but my gut says khaos

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i am kind of awful at day one and when you mix that with the kind of week ive been having this is what you get. i assure you that i can make up reads and have decent optics pretty effortlessly as scum, but obviously i cant be making up reads as town so

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dont kill me i claim town cop

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if i remember, i'll take a look when i get home

or maybe i'm just trying to get nominated

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hi im here

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@ sky I'm not trying to be a dick..can you read maybe khaos and aureal and give me any thoughts?

aureal is tough to get a read on but she could very easily be town here. also shes fun.

khaos is like a maybe. not super sold but i'm not eager to get rid of any of you amazing people quite yet (does flattery work? hope so).

i could maybe go kitty because i thought him writing off roulette as newbtown felt kinda tmi.

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tbh i have more to scumread kitty for than khaos (who is kind of a vibe read at this point simply because i forgot why i scumread him).

VOTE: kitty

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Roulette and black can't both be scum in any case that I'm 100% sure of.

why

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You kind of just wrote Roulette off as newbtown with vague reasoning. A lot of your townreads have vague reasoning, in fact, and you seem hesitant to actually push anyone which I think is often a scum trait. I don't really see what there is to townread about Khaos for instance, so your 303 feels like posturing for what you might *know* is a town flip if you're scum. Makes me feel like you want to look like you're solving but I'm not really seeing any evidence of the solving, just the (mostly) unreasoned conclusions. You seemed fine with just letting things lie without contributing much until the heat was on you when I flipped my vote. I'm not *that* confident you flip scum here (I am wary of the fact that I have miseliminated you multiple times) but I feel like in this game your posting is better explained from a scum-motivated standpoint than a town-motivated standpoint. And as much as I don't want to day one you, unfortunately you're my best guess at the moment (sorry if I'm wrong).

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You were also the first to unvote in this game which is something I scum read typically, and you've really only used your vote for RVS or to save your skin, you haven't used your vote to push a scum read.

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So, what's going on? Is there anything I can do to save myself?

not sure if this is townie naivety or scum looking for permission to vote their counterwagon. leaning towards townie naivety

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You need to make kitty the leading wagon, if you are town.

and khaos if you're not town you should not make kitty the leading wagon. trust me

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hmmm cant say i remember why ive seen kitty get miseliminated in the past. i am wary i suppose.

i'll think about switching back to khaos

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okay yolo

VOTE: aureal

sorry bestie

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not really a vanity wagon at this point

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i do too

my only trepidation with an aureal elimination right now is [redacted]

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301 has excellent thought process and real mafia hunting.

i snorted when i saw this post was just me going "why"

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or maybe i'm just trying to get nominated

it worked!

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VOTE: Aureal

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wut

did Merlyn somehow sneak back into this game because that kind of brain-hurty decision is totally something she would do

i dont like this reaction

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or maybe i'm just trying to get nominated

it worked!

What do you mean by this?

What were people thinking is the most likely way for scum to arrange the nominations? I figured it was most likely that scum would take the safe route and put the strongest townies in, making it replace their nightkill. Clearly this is not what happened.

mostly just a joke that i did in fact get nominated. but i'm good at talking myself out of things and know it, so it seemed optimal in my mind to play kinda absently day one, just so scum might feel safer nominating themselves against me.

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i can't say i'm sure she flips scum, but an aureal elimination sits better with me than a khaos elimination

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mostly just a joke that i did in fact get nominated. but i'm good at talking myself out of things and know it, so it seemed optimal in my mind to play kinda absently day one, just so scum might feel safer nominating themselves against me.

So you don't think scum would try to get a townread townie flipped here?

i can't say i'm sure she flips scum, but an aureal elimination sits better with me than a khaos elimination

Why? What changed about your Khaos thoughts when you decided to come after me instead?

Aureal what is your read on Khaos?

Still the scummiest player here, an obvious priority elimination, and it's driving me crazy that people want to push back so much on that.

well uh none of us are what i would call "townread." i don't know what strategy scum would go for, there are probably a number of valid ways they could approach it.

my khaos scumread kind of died down (you may remember that i had voted kitty and then you over khaos towards the end of yesterday) because a lot of it was vibe and i started to like khaos' posting. i also think you're more likely to put yourself up than khaos. and based on just how everyone reacted to the nominations, i feel like khaos has approached today more naturally than you so far. who knows though, maybe all three of us are town. i think given the picks that's also a possibility.

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my khaos scumread kind of died down (you may remember that i had voted kitty and then you over khaos towards the end of yesterday) because a lot of it was vibe and i started to like khaos' posting. i also think you're more likely to put yourself up than khaos. and based on just how everyone reacted to the nominations, i feel like khaos has approached today more naturally than you so far. who knows though, maybe all three of us are town. i think given the picks that's also a possibility.

??????

Khaos hasn't even posted today.

I'm approaching today less naturally than someone who hasn't even posted?

this is why sometimes I just really don't feel like trying ._.

i think i got some roulette posts mixed up

i do think the way you've approached this (uhh idk how to put it into words that well, but i'm referring to your reaction to the nominations and your speculation on what you think scum would do) is pinging me as faked? forced? hard to see the town motivations? something along those lines.

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"it seems like agenda driven posting rather than solving posting" would be a good way to state part of how i'm feeling atm. i'll put some more thought into khaos later.

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if i'm being honest i forgot you said that

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hrmmm

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i would like to think if khaos was scum that nominated himself he would have made an appearance by now

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i don't think there's a danger of bbmolla or bellaphant hammering so this probably doesn't need saying but i wanna let the replacement cook for a bit before any hammers

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"cook" as in "show up and process things and generate content"

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hi gob!

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in this game you win if you self-vote as mafia

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serious answer: basically it's nightless, but on odd nights the mafia nominates 3 players that are eligible for execution the following even day. and they can"t use that to force a win.

today its you me & aureal

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"cook" as in "show up and process things and generate content"

I meant the weird assertion that id hammer! Where did that read come fro

i literally said the opposite of that

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my yolo solve right now is aureal/black or molla/?

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didn't you misvig me in our last game together?

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nothing, i'm just trying to subtly discredit you

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ye luckily my partner is a deepwolf so

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what do you mean by appealy?

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didn't you misvig me in our last game together?

didn't you misvig me in our last game together?

?? Defcon?

what does that have to do with my current read anyway

nothing, i'm just trying to subtly discredit you

That being said I'm not really liking this from Sky

maybe im onto something with my yolo black/aureal guess

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so you're scumreading me for making a joke?

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i'll case aureal tonight or tomorrow or eventually. i have a few different reasons i think it's not gob. would rather go aureal please and thank you

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i have no idea what you mean by appealy. who/what am i appealing to?

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it might be a bit but you can check my iso

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so there's this thing called wifom...

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bleh sorry y'all, unusually busy irl day. be on tomorrow.

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hmm could be roulette maybe

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bleh. hold off before hammering, i do want to try to sit down and solve this tonight

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hmm could be roulette maybe

As much as I want to say gob is mafia, the only mafia I may see in the group is Skygazer as she has not much danger of being hunged.

VOTE: Skygazer

I wonder if the team is Skygazer/Molla. I work now but I will reconsider shortly.

lol the timing on this read flip. i do think i was in danger at the end of yesterday, why do you think i wasn't in danger?

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Since when is gob town?

As much as I want to say gob is mafia, the only mafia I may see in the group is Skygazer as she has not much danger of being hunged.

this jump is out of nowhere and happened 1) when gob wagon died down and 2) at a point where i'm tied with aureal

aureal/roulette team?

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and roulette's associations with aureal are funky/read as partnered

will do more digging and see if this idea has any merit

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Roulette ended the day on Aureal yesterday and proceeded to ignore that read entirely today. Also Roulette's vote on Aureal happened in a way that didn't put Aureal in any real danger, considering Kitty was set to be the elimination. Roulette's Aureal interactions are pretty sparse as well. Gonna look at Aureal's iso now

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It wouldn't make much sense for that to be suspicious except in the case that we're scum with Roulette.

lol

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well i still happen to be a larger wagon compared to gob, i just worded that weirdly. you're less likely to be eliminated by pivoting to me is what i was getting at

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i ended with zero votes on me but i was wagoned at some point, and scum thought i was in enough danger to put me up today so

reads can change in an instant. black was voting you earlier iirc, so it could've been a move to kill your wagon's momentum before she votes you again

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oh black that reminds me, after further consideration i feel like you're not partnered with aureal after all

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thats all i have the bandwidth for tonight unfortunately. will post a final reads list 2morrow

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gob: the reasoning behind your scum read is wrong, i feel like that's how i am in every game

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i'm never really one to go for the jugular

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a lot of her posting has been self serving rather than solvey

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ufh aureal how do you have no recent scumgames i can find

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i could go gob i guess. especially if it means i don't die!

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"unexplained"

okay here's an explanation. molla came in scum reading you which caused me to reconsider my read on you. reconsidering made me realize i should be scumreading you, for reasons i have already shared multiple times

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i don't think i need any deeper of an explanation than "your posts are self serving and not solving," but i can throw a bunch of quotes at you today if that would make everyone feel better

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also geeze it's literally between you and gob for me today, so who cares about my progression on you???? but okay lets worry about my progression... ive been scumreading you more than khaos since yesterday, so how in the world is me voting for you over gob today *in any way* a wonky progession?

you're just shading me without actually thinking about it

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me being the "least likely" to be eliminated among us three *might* be true? but it might not? i mean i think bella was openly scumreading me as well as some others iirc. i. dont. like. risk. as. scum. well i guess sometimes i do but i dont think im the type to put my neck out there for this. i guess thats probably not a good argument.

if you're voting me based on explanation of reads, and townreading gob, that rlly doesnt make much sense to me considering gobs reasons for voting me are horrendous. gob is probably town but yeah.

i really wish i could bring the unvotability i have going for me in my scum game into my town game. i guess i can if i do a bunch of AtE which is what i'm doing now. but ffs i just had a perfect victory as scum where i was only voted for *4 times* but when im town i get wagoned for the weirdest reasons

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aight guess itll probably be me tonight.

gob, bella and black probably town? i feel like scum team is aureal/roulette or molla/roulette. large room for error. most confident on roulette.

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i flipped a coin and it landed on 8 of club so i'll go with that

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why do you think i have a coin with all of those cards on it?

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its mostly how you opened today up. im not the only one who noticed it either, and i think you adjusted a bit after it was pointed out?

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like its fine to be self serving. i have been self serving a lot as town. but it seemed like your priority at the start of the day

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i also think the nomination mechanic would be used by scum here to create wifom or fabricate narratives, and i think the assumptions you've made about how scum must have approached the nominations are weird and i dont see how youve actually arrived at those assumptions. they just seem to be baseless speculation to justify parts of your reads and etc, which fits into the "fabricating narratives" thing

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assuming no one changes their mind, my final piece of advice is this:

while i don't think gob is scum, doing the opposite of what he thinks is a good idea is probably +EV for town

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i think after today roulette -> aureal -> molla probably wins the game

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bella maybeeee but eh

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okay yolo

VOTE: gob

sorry im not taking any more questions at this time

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VOTE: aureal

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no u

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bleh when i'm gone don't put too much weight into my reads

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it's happened to me on rare occasions and every time it was for an incorrect read x_x

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not the way we're playing

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Timer expired. I'm not gonna wait up for RH. You town?

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sorry

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sigh. wishing it was me that went now.

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Skygazer again has deep thought process behind her posts, as I said before.

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prodge. i am going a protest at a mall, i'll be back tonight hopefully

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Sky, where's your head at?

attached to my neck

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tonight! like i said

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@ black RE: me hammering molla - funnily enough i was strongly tempted to lolhammer molla actually

i think i want roulette today. still wanna reread tonight

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this game is hard

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battle goose

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sorry i reread. leaning molla but i need to reread when im not hungover

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feeling cute today, might hammer later

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if we can figure out two townies we win

i'm one of them so that's kind of half the battle

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i'm paranoid that molla self hammered because i dragged my feet on hammering and he wanted to paint me as a partner

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i'm SRing roulette but i need to reevaluate before committing

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i would be high key annoyed if it was me

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molla also opened up by trying to dismantle the khaos (now gob) wagon

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if we can figure out two townies we win

i'm one of them so that's kind of half the battle

I think you could be mafia here still, since you weren't voting BBmolla. What do you think about that?

It would mean Day 2 you put yourself up and we got pwned but maybe that's what happened.

i think that if i were mafia with molla i would have committed to the bus and hammered for the cred instead of twiddling my thumbs second guessing myself. but that's probably not a super compelling argument.

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we have three more elims, right?

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i think its just roulette

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i have a headache i do intend to reread and stuff this phase

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honestly have not read this page beyond skimming, but i'm TRing gob because gob kept calling me appealy and then flipped his read when i called him bad town and i think that is indicative of consistent/solvey thought processes

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lemme think about it

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honestly have not read this page beyond skimming, but i'm TRing gob because gob kept calling me appealy and then flipped his read when i called him bad town and i think that is indicative of consistent/solvey thought processes

by this page i guess i meant the last page

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interestingly that pattern with how the molla slot interacts with black holds true if you look at merlyn's iso as well

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so yeah i can buy it i guess. feels a little on the nose but ye

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Merlyn feels kinda townie here so far

What makes you think that out of curiosity

Your posts feel like they come from a genuine and honest place and I like how inquisitive you have been. Even in this post it feels like you are trying to solve for my alignment

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i feel like that's kind of a stretch if you look at merlyn's posting up to 77

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i feel like that's kind of a stretch if you look at merlyn's posting up to 77

Whats kind of a stretch? My theory?

no, black saying merlyn's posting came from a genuine place and seemed solvey

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the other thing is, i think scum-roulette is less likely to put themselves up against town-black and town-bella in this game state compared to scum-black or scum-bella putting themselves up, which seems safeish. i'm not seeing a sense of urgency i'd expect to see from scum-roulette, either

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VOTE: black

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UNVOTE:

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lemme think

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The way gob makes Sky hang follow after Black hang is scummy.

this is why i snap unvoted

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960 seems like a post scum would make if they know someone is about to flip town imminently

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intent, i guess

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lemme think

intent, i guess

Nice thoughts?

Mafia has nominated Black, Roulette, and Bellaphant.

I don't particularly want Roulette or Bellaphant over you. I think you -> gob has the best odds right now. The way gob keeps speculating that it's optimal for mafia to put themselves up on D2 makes me think that he's mafia and he did, in fact, put himself up, plus it seems like he's trying to keep his options open after today so...

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why do you think its not roulette or bella?

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*screams at gob*

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I will say this though. I went back and looked at Skygazer's old games and he does keep his scumbuddies in his scumreads constantly. I find his molla read this game to be weird. It sort of comes out of nowhere. Furthermore, it is against molla alone. And then later on he obviously didn't vote him.

you missed the part where i actually follow thru and vote my scum buddies usually. you also missed my last scum game where i hard defended my buddies all game and got a perfect W

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i think i wanna go black today too though

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VOTE: roulette

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i keep going back and forth on whether or not black is like actually not desperate or putting on a face of no desperation. i think i've decided she's not desperate (ie i think she's town)

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there's a distinct lack of panic in this game state right now which makes me think scum are comfy which points towards roulette or bella imo

i think gob is probably just town

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there's a distinct lack of panic in this game state right now which makes me think scum are comfy which points towards roulette or bella imo

i think gob is probably just town

The only people i see comfy are you roulette and bella.

and I'm voting Roulette

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there's a distinct lack of panic in this game state right now which makes me think scum are comfy which points towards roulette or bella imo

i think gob is probably just town

I don't know. I think Black is panicking... but still.

i don't necessarily think she's panicking in a scum about to lose kinda way, though. it seems like she's trying to solve for after her death rather than avoid getting eliminated

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there's a distinct lack of panic in this game state right now which makes me think scum are comfy which points towards roulette or bella imo

i think gob is probably just town

Why is gob town?

he's putting in a fuck ton of effort which i wouldn't expect to see from scum who didn't nominate themselves. like he's meta diving, trying to solve, etc. he also has this confidence that i feel is more town than scum, especially compared to my normal he was scum in. and i had a townie vibe read on him for a while so i kinda wanna trust my gut

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correct, we have three eliminations left and the nomination mechanic essentially doesn't matter after today

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So being relaxed really shouldn't be a scum tell? Like, today is about reducing the poe

what i'm getting at is that relaxed is indicative of town being on the wrong track

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what i'm saying is that i think black is town because everyone seems content with that, and black isn't fighting too hard. so my reads flipped.

i no longer think scum would be preoccupied with lining up future eliminations (what i thought gob was doing) bc that behaviour would look kinda sus/too on-the-nose, and itd be easier for scum to fake confident reads and then be forced to "reevaluate"

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i think roulette has 2 votes and black has 1

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i think the way bella approached me today was weird but i dont see what scum-bella gets out of that? seems more paranoia/distrust-driven than scum-driven

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my vibe from the bella interaction today was just they genuinely weren't picking up what i was putting down

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i think the way bella approached me today was weird but i dont see what scum-bella gets out of that? seems more paranoia/distrust-driven than scum-driven

Did you feel Bella approached you in a way to try and setup future mislims?

maybe but i feel like it's less likely because 1) the status quo suits scum-bella so why would scum-bella stir things up when wagons can shift drastically leading up to deadline and 2) setting up future miselims was already pointed out as a scummy behavior so i think scum would want to avoid doing something that could be perceived as that at this point

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:prnsive;

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uhh i meant

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hrmmm i kinda wanna go bella too but lemme think

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@gob

here are my scum ganes from this year (minus a multiball game that i lurked and got crosskilled n1)
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i think bella declaring that they're fine with getting voted out is more suspicious than not? i mean personally speaking, i would've been fine being voted out earlier on but now that we've only got 2 lims left, offering yourself up as a guaranteed miselimination is weird. changing a 50% chance of winning by random chance to 33% isn't ideal at all so why just give up and die? feels more like an optics-motivated statement

torn though rn

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i'm honestly struggling because i have reasons to townread yall and reasons to scumread yall

kinda wanna start over and do a full reread this weekend

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as a defense against the molla thing:
i declared intent before he self hammered. if molla is gonna die anyways, why not just let me hammer and get the cred? self-hammers usually come when the optics are looking good, not when it makes it seem like the partner is stalling on voting

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most optimal path would be to catch scum today

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i'll put some more serious thought in tomorrow and saturday, dead tonight

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lmaooo i mean i'm checked out enough to buy that as legit maybe

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sorry i still need to reread but i'm not feeling 100%

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i think offering yourself up as the elimination has the tendency to be townread for AtE-esque reasons, but often times scum do it because it can actually make people hesitant to vote them

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no i'm just terribly irresponsible whoops

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if i had to vote rn it'd be Bella i guess

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idk

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if we're going w me just let me give my 2 cents before i go

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i've got nothing. rereading, i keep going back and forth on my reads and can't get a handle on things

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gut say it's black
logic says it's bella
paranoia says it's gob

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VOTE: black

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gob if you vote w me right now we can force a black elim due to the voting mechanic

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if you happen to be townreading me

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there was a reason why i wanted Black over Bella right now and I forgot it hold on

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something with molla associations

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(i am also playing at work)

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ah i remember: something about this sequence makes me feel like 713 was just looking for any reason to hop off his partner

I’m at Bella/Aureal atm

Sky and Gob both seem town

Have you ever seen me do scum theatre before, like the arguement I had with aureal?

The answers no, btw, because I just don't.

mmmmmmmmmmmm

that sounds like an argument I'd make as scum lmfao

VOTE: Black

okay, reread a bit and I think it's Black/Bella, I think that wagon was all town tbh

VOTE: Bella

okay you convinced me

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aaaaaaaaaaa

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game hard

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reason why i think gob is town:

khaos is town these wagons blow

scum probably would never come in, not read, and declare their partner who is being wagoned as town only 17 minutes after entering the game

[Skygazer]

gob if you vote w me right now we can force a black elim due to the voting mechanic

can we do bella or no?

after further review i feel like bella's interactions with molla are townier than black's, and black's early merlyn townread is weird to me. so i'd rather black. if you don't want black then go for me (or do nothing and i die anyways), because i do not feel comfy being in tomorrow's elo based on how bad my activity levels were and how lost i am. but i gotta give my best effort and etc etc

[Skygazer]

Yeah this is sus

i mean it is kind of a hilariously nefarious action on my part, i felt scummy typing that out

[Skygazer]

"pulling out all the stops" is not how i would describe my play today at all lmao. i would be having a much better time if i were scum i think

[Skygazer]

i think if bella were scum bella would have snap voted me here

[Skygazer]

walkin home brb

[Skygazer]

i think i could sway gob onto black tomorrow tbh so i dont think the setting up an ideal final 3 is something scum me would have to worry about

but yes I AtE as town for the same reason I AtE as scum; it's effective in getting people to do what you want

[Skygazer]

scum me also gets way too invested and i struggle to see a world where i would lurk the day out as scum during such a pivotable moment

[Skygazer]

point for gob town - khaos was the top wagon for a while and it took awhile for any counterwagons to show up

[Skygazer]

as bbmolla was going down he was gunning for bella and black which shows he was trying to distance from one of them

[Skygazer]

adhd

[Skygazer]

merlyn doesn't really mention bella at all in her iso

[Skygazer]

UNVOTE: Belaphant

Upon re-reading I do think BBMolla may be scum here. There is a lot of weird stuff, like their progression on Bella.

Black and Skygazer, what do you think as the other two not voting BBmolla?

yet another gob town point: he caused the wagon to build back up on molla with this shift

(just hammering these in so nobody gets paranoid about him tomorrow)

[Skygazer]

Like, this isn't how I interact with partners ever. I don't just hard push for them to be elimed. If they are town, maybe it's worth going back to your 50/50, but it ain't me

bella is arguing that they're not partnered with molla here before molla has even flipped

[Skygazer]

okay fuck it whatever. in gob we trust.

VOTE: bella