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HELLLOO im alive!! this playlist is so stacked hello everyonelolhammer count: 3-
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i was at schoolIn post 27, Skygazer wrote: i think scum is in the lurkers (patchwork and merlyn)lolhammer count: 3-
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thank u nuclear gandhi
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homie... that is called a meta readIn post 57, Nuclear Gandhi wrote: Drew, Merlyn is trying to pocket you, trust me. You and me. We're both in this together!lolhammer count: 3-
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I LOVE THE HYDREIGON LINE u are so true for that <33In post 61, Merlyn wrote:
YAYYYY!!!!! Yes your avi is excellent, Hydreigon is one of my fav evolutionsIn post 56, patchwork wrote: OMG MERLYN IS HERE HIIlolhammer count: 3-
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it means merlyn has played a game with drew before so she is familiarized with how he plays. thus, she can make that read.In post 60, Nuclear Gandhi wrote: sry I don't followlolhammer count: 3-
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OHHH okayIn post 64, Merlyn wrote:
I think I'd better come clean and admit I was just jokin around, I wanted to WIFOM spiral Drew said we had to avoid WIFOM spiraling...In post 63, patchwork wrote:
it means merlyn has played a game with drew before so she is familiarized with how he plays. thus, she can make that read.In post 60, Nuclear Gandhi wrote: sry I don't followlolhammer count: 3-
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never said she was already towny! i was just saying there was no way to be for sure that it was pocketing and that they had played together before so it was likely that it was just a meta read!In post 65, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
Familiar players can also play each other though.In post 63, patchwork wrote:
it means merlyn has played a game with drew before so she is familiarized with how he plays. thus, she can make that read.In post 60, Nuclear Gandhi wrote: sry I don't follow
It's impossible for us to know anyone's intentions; anything can be read from both angles - mafia and town alike.
What makes you certain that her intentions were towny? I guess you already townread her?lolhammer count: 3-
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wait, so are you saying that because i took merlyn's joke seriously im scum or whatlolhammer count: 3-
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i literally never said it was towny i just said it wasn't pocketing in fact i think it's weird that YOU jumped to accuse her of pocketingIn post 77, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
Well, I was pointing out how your confidence in her intentions being towny was unordinary and felt a little like TMI.In post 76, patchwork wrote: wait, so are you saying that because i took merlyn's joke seriously im scum or what
Don't worry, pointing out one towny think there one wolfy thing here doesn't mean I'm calling people wolves and towns. Yet.lolhammer count: 3-
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yeah uh i don't see itIn post 59, patchwork wrote:
homie... that is called a meta readIn post 57, Nuclear Gandhi wrote: Drew, Merlyn is trying to pocket you, trust me. You and me. We're both in this together!lolhammer count: 3-
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hi, sky! i think we probably could but i'm more fond of klick's idea of systematically townhuntingIn post 79, Skygazer wrote: wanted to note real quick that in theory we could use the trustfalls as personalized hammer tests (from the proposers POV). and then we can chain trustfalls if we reveal townies and know their proposees must be town
thats probably not the best idea but ehlolhammer count: 3-
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OH I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MERLYN JOKING im such a dumbassIn post 104, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
That post of mine, the one addressed to Drew, was mostly joking; with a hint of hope to get a weird reaction from someone.In post 100, patchwork wrote:
i literally never said it was towny i just said it wasn't pocketing in fact i think it's weird that YOU jumped to accuse her of pocketingIn post 77, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
Well, I was pointing out how your confidence in her intentions being towny was unordinary and felt a little like TMI.In post 76, patchwork wrote: wait, so are you saying that because i took merlyn's joke seriously im scum or what
Don't worry, pointing out one towny think there one wolfy thing here doesn't mean I'm calling people wolves and towns. Yet.In post 57, Nuclear Gandhi wrote: Drew, Merlyn is trying to pocket you, trust me. You and me. We're both in this together!
Which I guess it succeeded in? Don't fret. As I said, all it was was me seeing a strange looking post and pointing out what I find strange about it. I'm not calling you Mafia.lolhammer count: 3-
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well, that's precisely the objective here. good job you passed my reaction test, would you like to continue this line of questioning anyways?In post 111, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
You're quoting wrong post fwiw.In post 101, patchwork wrote:
yeah uh i don't see itIn post 59, patchwork wrote:
homie... that is called a meta readIn post 57, Nuclear Gandhi wrote: Drew, Merlyn is trying to pocket you, trust me. You and me. We're both in this together!
I didn't see nor understand that post either, which is why I said "sry I don't follow".
The post I was refering to was #63
Seriously though, I feel like you're making a too big deal out of a "this feels wrong" comment by me.lolhammer count: 3-
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tbh i think towniest people so far are klick: kind of generally pro-town, promoting discussion, setup-related talk. that aside, they're just vibing well with me. nuclear gandhi sounds cool too, i think they're actively contributing and sparking discussion. thankfully i can rule them as hesitantly towny now even though i was skeptical of their past posts (particularly the ones where they were like "haha guys im not scum!!! trust me"). i like skys vibes, it reminds me of how they were like when we played together lastlolhammer count: 3-
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wait i found 63 how did u fidn that scummy
you said you didn't follow meaning you didn't understand so i elaborated what a meta read meantlolhammer count: 3-
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it probably is in her scumrange
i played a scumgame w her months ago and she was kinda like thislolhammer count: 3-
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i think he reacted decently to me and while im not too sure on this i', willing to sort him as town
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YEAA it was in the vig game! 2300 i think?In post 144, Skygazer wrote:
i remember this; i think mala is pretty slippery as scum but time will tell? nothing has jumped out as scummy about her to me yet thoIn post 127, patchwork wrote: it probably is in her scumrange
i played a scumgame w her months ago and she was kinda like thislolhammer count: 3-
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the nostalgia LOLIn post 148, Skygazer wrote: i think that's the same reason i lost to them in my first game with them so i'll likely reevaluate though lollolhammer count: 3-
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YOUS TOLE MY PAGETOPIn post 200, Malakittens wrote:In post 126, Merlyn wrote: but I've read a few of her games and I feel like she has that kind of carefree sound as scum too. Like, she made me laugh but I do think this is in her scumrange.lolhammer count: 3-
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probably, black has played more games with me out of everyone here. though i do recall black "learning how to read me" in our last handful of games and scumreading me every time regardless of my actual alignment xD this is my second game after my break so tbh i hope im still readable to you guysIn post 154, Skygazer wrote: black: i trust your ability to read them more than my own tbhlolhammer count: 3-
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what even is my townrangeIn post 156, Black wrote:
Well they are in their town range too so we'll have to see lolIn post 154, Skygazer wrote: black: i trust your ability to read them more than my own tbhlolhammer count: 3-
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tbh i think its advantageous for scum to wait backIn post 162, Black wrote: What can be taken away from this mala proposal? I think it suggests that either I'm town or we are scum together. Mala could be town or scum regardless of my alignment. I think scum is more likely to try and toss out a trust fall to something they think might accept, but it is mala we're talking about here so personality has to be consideredlolhammer count: 3-
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black literally said that i was in both town and scumrangeIn post 169, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:Just to clarify: do you mean only scum range or both scum and town range both?
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I trust Blacklolhammer count: 3-
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mala im sorry but none of those r scumreadsIn post 205, Malakittens wrote:In post 204, Malakittens wrote:In post 133, Klick wrote: {Alianna, Malakittens, Random Nurse}
Probably 1 scum bottom, 1 scum middle.In post 202, Malakittens wrote:In post 127, patchwork wrote: it probably is in her scumrange
i played a scumgame w her months ago and she was kinda like this
For Klickin' ChickenIn post 200, Malakittens wrote:In post 126, Merlyn wrote: but I've read a few of her games and I feel like she has that kind of carefree sound as scum too. Like, she made me laugh but I do think this is in her scumrange.lolhammer count: 3-
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fair but i didn't interpret them as suchIn post 217, Malakittens wrote: Yeah, but the posts are indicative that people are in the range for the fence of doing a scum read bc i'm "in scumrange"lolhammer count: 3-
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oh, in the one with merlyn? newbie? yeah, you didIn post 222, Black wrote: I had you pinned down in the last game we played. I'm not confident I'll be able to do it again though
that game was a fuckign dumpster fire i hate itlolhammer count: 3-
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this is actually a pretty good strategy, i think! trust only one person who your strongest townread isIn post 259, Malakittens wrote: Nope. I got eyes for black only until she's removed from the game~lolhammer count: 3-
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Okay, glad I don't have to
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this is kind of what i'm thinking! i think klick is probably town based on how they didn't just, yknow, get out with me. i'm not too sure on drew, though, i dont think he's posted once since klick trusted himIn post 273, Alianna wrote:
That is my question too. We don't have a voting/execution mechanic to work with, all we have is the trusts.In post 270, patchwork wrote: how do u even scumhunt in this
I could assume that everyone who's been trusted (Black, Drew, Klick) is either town or scum with whoever trusted them, which actually might clear Drew due to a line of logic that my brain is not yet awake enough to verify or explain coherently (update on that later). I don't know if I like that assumption though.
Black is basically confirmed and Klick reads town to me anyway though.lolhammer count: 3-
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what's the klick strat againIn post 274, Merlyn wrote: Okay, so what about the klick strat?
We all agree that Black is the towniest, why don't we ask her to choose two folks to trust fall. She can still be wrong but we know that she won't be actively working against uslolhammer count: 3-
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tbh i think if there's one person i'm not willing to trust fall with it's mala. sorry malalolhammer count: 3-
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actually that's a lie, there's apparently someone here called random nurse who has NEVER posted.lolhammer count: 3-
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nvm. theyve psoted before but they're on vla
but anyways do yall wanna post a list of who you wouldnt be willign to trustfall withlolhammer count: 3-
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wait he did? my bad i have really bad memoryIn post 281, Alianna wrote:
He posted an entire readslist after Klick trusted him lol.In post 275, patchwork wrote:
this is kind of what i'm thinking! i think klick is probably town based on how they didn't just, yknow, get out with me. i'm not too sure on drew, though, i dont think he's posted once since klick trusted himIn post 273, Alianna wrote:
That is my question too. We don't have a voting/execution mechanic to work with, all we have is the trusts.In post 270, patchwork wrote: how do u even scumhunt in this
I could assume that everyone who's been trusted (Black, Drew, Klick) is either town or scum with whoever trusted them, which actually might clear Drew due to a line of logic that my brain is not yet awake enough to verify or explain coherently (update on that later). I don't know if I like that assumption though.
Black is basically confirmed and Klick reads town to me anyway though.
But my "read" there is more of a mech-read than a read-read. I'll explain what I mean later.lolhammer count: 3-
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what if our consensus townread is wrong?In post 280, Merlyn wrote: klick strat: viewtopic.php?t=90488
In post 0, Klick wrote: But with creative thinking, we can work around those steep odds. If the town can settle on one strong consensus townread, that person can decide upon an elimination target, and everyone can agree before the target is decided that they will sheep the consensus townread, regardless of their own reads on the situation. All of a sudden, instead of 5 out of 6 town players having to unite against a wolf while avoiding getting sidetracked by scum, just one player needs to get a good read. The odds are much better for town than playing out that vote normally.lolhammer count: 3-
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if we do have to vote on a consesus townread/town leader, i vote blacklolhammer count: 3-
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OhIn post 285, Merlyn wrote:In post 274, Merlyn wrote: She can still be wrong but we know that she won't be actively working against uslolhammer count: 3-
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okay, i read that post with the contect.t hanks! i think im actually down to that given im pretty confident in my black readlolhammer count: 3-
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I'm fine with both this and standard Black Mayor, though I'm not sure why everyone seems to clear Drew. would someone be willing to explain to meIn post 293, Klick wrote: Here's what I think
I think Black/Drew/myself are just town. I think arguments to the contrary aren't that strong - there are 'what-if's there but they aren't super relevant.
I think Black, Drew and myself should solidify our reads and pick one person each outside of that group that we're confident exiting with. If we all do this successfully, we win.
If it turns out one of us is scum, we can reevaluate considering that if we have to cross that bridge. I don't think that's the world we're in though.lolhammer count: 3-
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oh! okayIn post 304, Alianna wrote: So basically, there's a trust chain of patch ---> Klick ---> Drew. Assuming that scum will always reciprocate trust offers made by town (which is debatable but I don't hate it as an assumption), Drew can't be scum unless Klick is also scum. But Klick can't be scum unless you're scum, which isn't possible if Drew is scum. So Drew is most likely town here.lolhammer count: 3-
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nope, you didn't miss anyone!In post 295, Black wrote: Just a heads up I won't be around much this weekend. I would accept the mayor position if everyone agreed
Right now I'm feeling like mala, Merlyn, and patch might be the riskiest options to pair with people. Nothing much here other than their eagerness to trust fall. I could easily be wrong about them
Alianna is pinging me too for some reason and I can't really explain it. Maybe LAMIST? Less so than the three above
I'm most confident in skygazer and Drew atm but the confidence isn't very high here. That's typical me though. Ghandi feels ok I think
Klick feels ok but I'm always wary here so I think we wait it out. His eagerness to get people out of the game could be a bad sign but not necessarily one
Random Nurse we wait for
Did I miss anyone?
i just wanted to back up what merlyn said about personalpref + reads- remember that scum ALSO wins if they make it to october 12th and passes the 20 day deadline. i think you're definitely town, sure, but just to be clear.
also, i have no scum motivation to trust you and klick, lol. there's no point in me targeting people who have stated they are indifferent about me (you said i was in both my town and scumrange, klick has me in their null). i think it woul dbe more advantageous for scum!me to target someone like merlyn who would be easier to pocket, but because i'm unsure about merlyn i'm not doing that.
out of curisosity, how is alianna pinging you?lolhammer count: 3-
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OMG your name is green now !!!In post 299, Skygazer wrote: fine w Black as mayor
busy today and tomorrow but i'll try to get some firmer readslolhammer count: 3-
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why?In post 297, Klick wrote: I also have Alianna on my radar as decently likely scumlolhammer count: 3-
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LMAOIn post 311, Skygazer wrote:
i think that must mean i'm town?In post 308, patchwork wrote: OMG your name is green now !!!
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how did u get silly green name though? how does that worklolhammer count: 3-
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i love spicy things sounds greatIn post 320, Malakittens wrote: Ps my mom put ghost pepper in chili and I wanna die
JUST SO IF I AN MIA for two days I died bc of this fuckinf shitlolhammer count: 3-
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why alianna?In post 322, Malakittens wrote: For me I wouldn’t pair with the following (no order btw)
Random nurse, patch, maybe sky, alilolhammer count: 3-
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damn fucking ripIn post 337, Alianna wrote: I almost died from a poblano once. Good luck Mala!lolhammer count: 3-
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:HANDSHAKE:In post 338, Doctor Drew wrote:
What??In post 337, Alianna wrote: I almost died from a poblano once. Good luck Mala!
Oh you would hate my cooking.lolhammer count: 3-
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