Grand Idea Mafia

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Vanilla Spook

The spook faction doesn't kill. Instead, they "possess" people. What this means is that a spook can take the role of the person they possessed. In the morning it will say that no body was found, and there will be no flip. The spook doesn't take the alignment of the person, only the role. Each spook can only possess one person.

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Vanilla Spook

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1-shot Bulletproofifier Spook

This Spook will add the 1-shot Bulletproof modifier to the role they take. If it possesses a 1-shot Bulletproof, it will become a 2-shot Bulletproof.

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Vanilla Spook

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Vanilla Spook

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Millerifier Spook

This Spook will at the Miller modifier to any role it takes. If it targets a Miller, it will become a Death Miller.

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Vanilla Spook

You are a

Logician

You are a third party role. You have a hat on your head, that is either black or white, but you don't know which one.
There are other Logicians in the game: xxx, yyy... whose hats are colored xxx, yyy... Not all hats are colored white.
At any point during a Day Phase, you can guess your hat's color; if you're wrong, you die; if you're right, you win, the other Logicians lose, and you all leave the game.

I just thought it was a funny idea to have a completely unrelated game running in the same thread as Mafia

https://xkcd.com/blue_eyes.html

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Lovedifier Spook

This spook will at the "Loved" modifier to any role it takes. If it targets a Loved Townie, it will become Super Loved (Takes two extra votes to condemn). It won't have this modifier in MyLo or Lylo.

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Hatedifier Spook

This spook will at the "Hated" modifier to any role it takes. If it targets a Hated Townie, it will become Super Hated (Takes two votes less to condemn). It won't have this modifier in MyLo or Lylo.

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1-shot All-in-one Scum Detector

Can investigate a player. Results will come up as "Scum" or "Not Scum".

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Third Party Faction Guesser

After the first night (At any point during the second day), you can guess which scum factions are present. If you guess right, you win and exit the game. If you guess wrong, you turn into a Neutral Survivor.

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Town BBmolla Disabler

Re-roll any roles posted by BBmolla, to one of the same alignment. If you die, they will revert back to their BBmolla equivalents. If there can't be a role found that is the same alignment, that role will permanently turn into a Neutral Survivor.

Note: This role will be told it's a Vanilla Townie

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Mafia BBmolla Disabler

Re-roll any roles posted by BBmolla, to one of the same alignment. If you die, they will revert back to their BBmolla equivalents. If there can't be a role found that is the same alignment, that role will permanently turn into a Neutral Survivor.

Note: This role will be told it's a Mafia Goon

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Town Shadowmod Disabler

Re-roll any roles posted by Shadow, to one of the same alignment. If you die, they will revert back to their Shadowmod equivalents. If there can't be a role found that is the same alignment, that role will permanently turn into a Neutral Survivor.

Note: This role will be told it's a Vanilla Townie

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Mafia Shadowmod Disabler

Re-roll any roles posted by Shadow, to one of the same alignment. If you die, they will revert back to their Shadowmod equivalents. If there can't be a role found that is the same alignment, that role will permanently turn into a Neutral Survivor.

Note: This role will be told it's a Mafia Goon

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Vanilla Spook

@Felissan

Not in every game.

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Vanilla Spook

Mafia Goon

Including secret mod notes is still silly cause it makes the role pointless if this is played modless.

I don't think the role would work in modless anyway.

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Vanilla Spook

@Plotinus

Vanilla Spook

The spook faction doesn't kill. Instead, they "possess" people. What this means is that a spook can take the role of the person they possessed. In the morning it will say that no body was found, and there will be no flip. The spook doesn't take the alignment of the person, only the role. Each spook can only possess one person.

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Town Vote Reverser

That abillity seems WAY TOO STRONG.

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2-shot Bulletproof Lumberjack

Each night you may treestump someone. This goes through all night immunities, except commuter. Prevent the first two times you would get nightkilled. You win when you are the only person left alive, or nothing can prevent that from happening.

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Mafia Roleblocker

Third-Party Vote Reverser

You take 1 extra vote to be lynched for each vote that was on you the previous day.
You win when the total of extra votes needed to lynch you gained this way is 10.

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Town Vote Reverser

That abillity seems WAY TOO STRONG.

Except this can actually be meta'd by withdrawing the votes before deadline.

So, tell me: Who would meta a role that's only (as of now) 2 of the 2432 roles? I mean, you easily forget about meta'ing pikachu, which has a much higher chance of appearing in a game and will make itself (subtly) known.

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Vengeful Hated 1-shot Macho Cop

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Werewolf Martyr

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Alien Cop Seer FBI Agent Private Investigator Paranormal Investigator

Can investigate someone each night. Results will come up as "Mafia", "Werewolf", "Serial Killer, "Cult", "Spook" or "Not Mafia, Werewolf, Serial Killer, Cult or Spook".

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Werewolf Cop

do I get a SPECIAL PRIZE if I make the 2500th post

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Rules Lawyer

As long as you are alive, alignments can't change.

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Username Cop

(alignment determined by mod)
Each night, you may investigate someone. You will be told the username of the person who posted their role.

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Alien Post Cop

Each night, you may investigate someone. You will get the post number where their role was posted.

Town 1-Shot All-Cop

One night during the game, you may investigate every player alive. You get returned their alignment.

why

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Werewolf Roleblocker

Mafia Seer

This game is a bit like the Pokémon TCG: it keeps getting extended and we're always speaking of the roles, but nobody actually plays it.

there are like 2 grandest idea games going in signups (one in the micro queue and one in the mini theme queue)

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Negative Utility Re-roller

(Alignment up to mod's discretion)
All roles which would be considered negative utility for the mod are re-rolled until they are not. Alignments aren't re-rolled.

e.g. mafia compulsive public cop is rolled. After a re-roll, town mirrorer is rolled. The final role is mafia mirrorer.

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Werewolf conspiracy theorist

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Morphling

Whenever a player dies, you get their role and alignment, except you also gain this ability. You start out as a survivor.

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Town Roleblocker

TIME TO MAKE UP A COOL ROLE FAM

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Mafia Ninja

no I'm going to edit it I have thought of an awesome role

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Compulsive Depserado

Mafia Cookie Cutter

Each night, you can target a living player. If they rolled #2500, they are modkilled.

why

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Pikachu

Third-party Toppler

Each night, you may target someone. If they have the highest post number roll of all alive players in this game, you shoot them and steal their abilities.

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Compulsive Depserado

Mafia Cookie Cutter

Each night, you can target a living player. If they rolled #2500, they are modkilled.

why

I said I'd give a cookie to post 2500, and then I just had the idea. I'm just an asshole sometimes

what's their win condition

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Werewolf Watcher

Pikachu

At some point in the game before you die, you must make an at-least-subtle reference to Pokemon (mod gets final say on whether or not it counts). You win if you survive to the end of the game after doing so without anybody suggesting that you are the Pikachu. Only the first bolded accusation made by anyone during a Day phase counts as such a suggestion. You may not make such an accusation yourself.

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Alien 1-shot Day Vigilante

you people are making a bunch of named townies

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Town Roleblocker

Mafia Cookie Cutter

Each night, you can target a living player. If they rolled #2500, they are modkilled.

Town rain dancer

you may make it rain 2 nights of your choice(everyone will be told that it is raining), and (during the day) everyone who visited will be "wet"/

Town Electrocuter

Once during the game, during the Day Phase, you may decide to kill all "wet" players.

I mean roles like this. Are there even any other mentions of "wet" players?

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Werewolf Goon

That's just bad role design imo.

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Werewolf Goon

Town rain dancer

you may make it rain 2 nights of your choice(everyone will be told that it is raining), and (during the day) everyone who visited will be "wet"/

what is the purpose of this role

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Mafia 1-shot Strongman

Werewolf Goon

Town rain dancer

you may make it rain 2 nights of your choice(everyone will be told that it is raining), and (during the day) everyone who visited will be "wet"/

what is the purpose of this role

you know who visited at night

so lets say you have 5 players and 3 are wet, and there was a kill. you know its one of the 3

could you clarify that in the role description

Imposter

If you roll this, you must make an alt, and replace in the game.
If anyone guesses the alt is you before you die, or the game is over, you lose.

literally unwinnable. also, roles where you have to make alts are just bad design.

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Werewolf 1-shot Bulletproof

Mafia 1-shot Strongman

Werewolf Goon

Town rain dancer

you may make it rain 2 nights of your choice(everyone will be told that it is raining), and (during the day) everyone who visited will be "wet"/

what is the purpose of this role

you know who visited at night

so lets say you have 5 players and 3 are wet, and there was a kill. you know its one of the 3

could you clarify that in the role description

eh, i think it would be more fun if the players had to figgure out how to make use of it.

Imposter

If you roll this, you must make an alt, and replace in the game.
If anyone guesses the alt is you before you die, or the game is over, you lose.

literally unwinnable. also, roles where you have to make alts are just bad design.

how is it unwinnable?

also, i am aware that roles like this are not the best design, but its ment to be fun

because a played miraculously replaced out at the beginning of the game and some new player replaced in? especially fishy in games with experience requirements,

and yes, I get that, but I think it's important to keep in mind that your role actually might get rolled in an actual grand idea game, and to at least keep some balance in. if you want to just design roles you can keep them to yourself, or you could make a new thread not explicitly made to have the roles used in an actual mafia game.

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Black Goo Spook

works like a normal spook, except becomes a black goo in addition to all other roles and abilities

FED Clique Goon

(The FED Clique, aka "the Fake and Evil Doctor Clique" is a scum faction with a CPR Doctor factional ability that they can use at night.)

(When entered into a game, the number of scum and townies must be adjusted accordingly to the multiball situation that occurs, hopefully taking an equal number of town and scum high enough for the FED Clique to hold its own can do. Moderator discretion is advised.)

stop adding more scum factions

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1-shot Bulletproof Jester

yup.

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Mafia Reflavourer

All scum factions rolled in this game revert to mafia flavour, and so do all other power roles.

Example: a Mafia Reflavourer, an Alien Psychotrooper, and a Town Seer are rolled. The Alien Psychotrooper becomes a Mafia Psychotrooper, and the Town Seer becomes a Town Cop.

Town Insider

(The Insiders are a town sub-faction with a factional recruitment ability and a private topic. Upon attempting to recruit scum, the Insider that made the recruitment dies and the recruitment fails. Town wins when half the living players are Insiders.)

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Town-aligned Cult lol

that's called a weak neighborizer

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Alien Strongman Ninja 1-shot Cop 1-shot Seer

Vanilla Townie

@McMenno --> No it isn't; the win con is differemt.

so it's a worse town neighbourizer

2 shot Town Wizard

Player uses a protection potion. This can be used during a day or night phase by messaging the mod.
When used, the user chosen is immune from all types of death during this phase.

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Alien Masoniser Monkiser

May use Masoniser, Monkiser and night kill in the same night. When masonising a mafia member or monkising a werewolf, the action fails.

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(Insert alignment here) Death Speaker

Once per game, when dead, may send a message through the moderator. It may contain whatever the player likes as long as it's not against the site/game rules (obviously). It will be posted in the official moderator color (tm).

Note: In the role pm and on flip, this role will be a vanilla of whatever faction was chosen by the moderator. Upon death the player will receive their real role in a new pm.

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Town Blitzer

As long as this player is alive, the game uses blitz deadlines instead of normal ones (72 hour days and 24 hour nights).

"I didn't sign up for this

you have been b& from sitechat."

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Town Roleblocker

"So what's the flavor of this?"

"Uhm..."

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Town Paranoid Gun Owner

*Ding dong*

"That'll be-"

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Mafia Miller

"Miller here!

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Death Cult Leader

each day, convert a player. they will die the next night. dead convertees may continue to talk in cult PT.

supersalt

Deviant, day {6-sided die} winning third party

Wins if every living person has made a claim of their role ("i am a vig"/"i have an investigative power"/"i am third party" etc) by day {roll 6 sided die}.

harr harr harr

Werewolf 1-shot Strongman

"To shreds you say?"

What do people think of my little "flavor text" snippets?

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1-shot Bulletproof Jester

"It's the journey that counts...

Mafia Redirector

Abilities

Night Action

Check Out This Guy!:

Target a player. All actions directed at you will be redirected towards your target instead.

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Town Bulletproof absorber

For every action that targets them (including factional actions), gains a 1-shot version of that action.

That's kinda like my Town Dreamer, except Bulletproof. And I can tell that this can bust a game quickly, just out of SirCakez's Grandest Idea where it copied a Cult recruitment.

that wasn't relevant in the end

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Town Mason-Monkifier

Two non-mafia players become masons. Two non-werewolf players become monks. (In addition to their normal roles)

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Town Mason-Monkifier

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Mafia Mason-Monkifier

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Werewolf Mason-Monkifier

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Alien Mason-Monkifier

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Mafioso with a really convincing disguise

You count as a vanilla townie for all intents and purposes other than the fact that you are, in fact, a mafioso.

Examples:
When a role gets information about the setup, they will receive that information as though you are a vanilla townie.
When an investigator does an investigation, they will receive information as though you are a vanilla townie. Cops will see you as town, neapolitans will see you as a vanilla townie, etc.
When a role performs an action on you that cares about your alignment, they will treat you as a vanilla townie (eg weak roles will not die when they visit you)
However, when you perform the factional kill, trackers/watchers/voyeurs/motion detectors etc. will still see you perform that action.

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Werewolf with a really convincing disguise

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(75% Town/25% Mafia) Bonescythe Sliver

All slivers have "Whenever you would perform an action, perform that action twice instead."

Example: Instead of healing once a night, a doc could heal twice a night,

Mod notes: After the setup is rolled, randomly add "Sliver" to players' roles until one third of the player list is a Sliver, rounded down. Replace their ablities with "All slivers have [ability]". Reword as necessary to suit different roles.

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(75% Town/25% Mafia Striking Sliver

Slivers' actions resolve before all other players.

Example: If a goon is a sliver and a doc isn't, the doc can't stop the goons kill. But if they are both slivers, they can.

Mod notes: After the setup is rolled, randomly add "Sliver" to players' roles until one third of the player list is a Sliver, rounded down. Replace their ablities with "All slivers have [ability]". Reword as necessary to suit different roles.

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Sliver Overlord

Each night, you may create a proxy Sliver player called "Sliver". You control their vote and night actions.
Each night, you may target a player. If they are a sliver, you steal their vote and may use all their abilities instead of them. They will be notified in the following way: "[Up to moderator]"

You win when you control the majority of the vote. The game then ends, and everyone else loses.

Mod notes: After the setup is rolled, randomly add "Sliver" to players' roles until one third of the player list PLUS ONE is a Sliver, rounded down. Replace their ablities with "All slivers have [ability]". Reword as necessary to suit different roles.

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Vanilla Townie

heck i have to reword all my posts to say 75% town/25% mafia

You don't have to

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Werewolf 1-Shot Doctor

I just think it's kind of lame if alignment can easily be gotten from role, especially with a role that's as easy to prove as the slivers.

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(75% Town/25% Werewolf) Groundshaker Sliver

All slivers have "Your actions can't be stopped by any means."

Example: Roleblocks, bulletproof, ascetic, or anything similar can't stop actions slivers take.

Mod notes: After the setup is rolled, randomly add "Sliver" to players' roles until one third of the player list is a Sliver, rounded down. Replace their ablities with "All slivers have [ability]". Reword as necessary to suit different roles.

Mod notes regarding alignment: If werewolf is rolled and this role would be the only werewolf, they become part of the biggest scum faction instead.

Metallic Sliver

Named Vanilla Sliver

Mod notes: After the setup is rolled, randomly add "Sliver" to players' roles until one third of the player list is a Sliver, rounded down. Replace their ablities with "All slivers have [ability]". Reword as necessary to suit different roles.

Werewolf 1-Shot Doctor

I just think it's kind of lame if alignment can easily be gotten from role, especially with a role that's as easy to prove as the slivers.

I guess one can assume that Slivers have a factional win that works in addition to their wincons. Therefore people that roll slivers only have the factional wincon of majority?

The idea was as follows: all previous slivers gave all slivers abilities, but there just isn't a big enough density of them in a thread this large to reliably have two or more rolled at once. So that would make them too parasitic to do anything. To remedy this, I decided to make other players slivers as well, and worded it in a way that if other slivers were already in the game, there would still be an equal amount of slivers. (eg: if one of my slivers was rolled in addition to another sliver in a 9P game, only one other role would get the sliver modifier).

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(75% Mafia/25% Town) Dementia Sliver

All slivers have "Each night, you may target a player and guess their role. If you guess correctly, you vanillaize them.

Mod notes: After the setup is rolled, randomly add "Sliver" to players' roles until one third of the player list is a Sliver, rounded down. Replace their ablities with "All slivers have [ability]". Reword as necessary to suit different roles.

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(75% Town/25% Mafia) Homing Sliver

All slivers have "At night, you may PM the moderator a role from the Grand Idea Mafia thread. If a role has multiple abilities, PM an ability. All slivers gain that ability and you lose that ability. Abilities may be vetoed at the moderator's discretion." When you use this ability, all slivers lose the ability.

Mod notes: After the setup is rolled, randomly add "Sliver" to players' roles until one third of the player list is a Sliver, rounded down. Replace their ablities with "All slivers have [ability]". Reword as necessary to suit different roles.

Town Savage Puncher

(I'm using the random card picker on Scryfall to help me make up roles).
You may target a player at night. If they don't have a kill ability, they die. If they do have a kill ability, you have a 50% chance of you killing them and you living and a 50% chance of the opposite to happen.

I think fight could be flavored as a gladiate.

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(50% Town/50% Mafia) Plague Sliver

All slivers are hated.

(They take 1 less vote to condemn.)

Mod notes: After the setup is rolled, randomly add "Sliver" to players' roles until one third of the player list is a Sliver, rounded down. Replace their ablities with "All slivers have [ability]". Reword as necessary to suit different roles.

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Town Your Mom

You must make at least one painfully unfunny "Your mom" joke per day. If you fail to do this, you will become hated, then a beloved princess, then you will randomly kill one person of your faction if you die, then die.

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(75% Town/25% Mafia) Sliversmith

Each night, you may turn another player into a sliver.

(Replace their ablities with "All slivers have [ability]". Reword as necessary to suit different roles.)

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75% Town/25% Largest Scumfaction) Galerider Sliver

All slivers have flying.

(They can only be targeted by other players with flying.)

Mod notes: After the setup is rolled, randomly add "Sliver" to players' roles until one third of the player list is a Sliver, rounded down. Replace their ablities with "All slivers have [ability]". Reword as necessary to suit different roles.

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75% Town/25% Mafia Blur Sliver

All slivers may use their night abilities during the day and their day abilities during the night instead.

(They can use their abilities once per day/night cycle.)

Mod notes: After the setup is rolled, randomly add "Sliver" to players' roles until one third of the player list is a Sliver, rounded down. Replace their ablities with "All slivers have [ability]". Reword as necessary to suit different roles.

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Vanilla Townie

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Town Nightstarter

The game uses a nightstart instead of a daystart. This is counted as night 0.

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Pirate Rare Groupscum Unifier

Wincon: Groupscum, Pirate

Passive: Rare Groupscum Unifier (At gamestart, changes all roles with a Groupscum wincon that isn't Groupscum, Mafia or Groupscum, Werewolf to the Groupscum wincon matching their own, If they don't have a Groupscum wincon, nothing happens.)

Personally I'm like, wrt all the protection/kills powercreep going on. There really should only be a few cases: No protection (so called Tier 0 protection), no kill (Tier 0 kill), Tier 1 protection (eg Bulletproof), Tier 1 kill (eg the Mafia nightkill), Tier 2 protection (eg something like "Nightkill immune" or what have you), Tier 2 kill (eg Strongman, which can pierce through Tier 1, but not Tier 2 protection), and I don't really think anything should be able to get through Tier 2 protection. Then condemnation is a whole different situation. Also, I was thinking of Groupscum identities beyond Mafia and Werewolf (The "generic" ones). I was thinking Pirates could maybe be a ragtag band uniting the other scumteams (That are not Mafia and Werewolf, in this case I suppose).