How to win as Mafia: Calculated Inaction

[ReaperCharlie]

For the most part, I like this guide. It also explains why Gurgi is not usually on my radar.

[ReaperCharlie]

Meh I owe an IC in some newbie game this, because his explanation was 10x mine (might be Zito) but basically, townies are going to die. This was specifically in the context of no lynch, btw. "Preserving" townies is an illusion. If you're town, you'll probably eventually die.

So getting killed by the mafia, especially as VT, isn't bad. Me? I've experimented with playing "off" to protect power roles. So far it just makes me less effective for the town than if I was a VT, and once I was killed N1 anyway. If I'm obvtown I die. If 9 other townies are just as obvtown, we'll never mislynch, so I win anyway.

Another line of thinking that branches off from this is that people always ask "If you're the cop and you get a scum result, should you claim?" The answer is always yes. 1:1 cop for scum trade is awesome. It's exactly why the cop exists. And if the doc protects him the next night, so much the better. He'll likely bring more info. I don't know why people even ask this question any more, but they do.

[ReaperCharlie]

You're both right. But I'd rather have a guaranteed 1:1 than to gamble on "double or nothing".

[ReaperCharlie]

What I will say, actually, is we seem to have seen a decline in cops trying to get their guilty lynched without coming out. I don't see the harm in trying to push their lynch through 'normal' channels for the first half of the day. If it doesn't work, then you claim.

I tried that as a tracker and it DID work well and I didn't have to come out a few games ago.

Of course, scum killed me because they assumed I was a tracker but.

In Metropolis: Revisited, KageLord got in 4 investigations, but never claimed.

Then he died.

[ReaperCharlie]

Well, he DID try to get his scum results lynched, but they never did.

They lasted until endgame. (and then lost to the Serial Killer, but still)

[ReaperCharlie]

Amrun, the point I was making with this list is that it is far too easy to win as mafia. Not that it's fun. I applaud you taking an active role as scum, it's exhilarating to be leading the town in a crusade that could fall around you at any time. Unfortunately when there's no need to play in the way that is fun, there's a problem with the game. That's what I was trying to say. I hope that by posting things like these, people will start to actually consider looking out for the people that do this.

I know what you mean. I hope so, too. If you don't actually manipulate people, then what's the fun in being scum and playing mafia in general?

Think of it less as manipulating people and more watching Townies witch-hunt (except there actually ARE witches and they can't find them).

I much prefer to lead people on a Grand Crusade to Nowhere™! (like in Harry Potter last summer. lmao)

And yes, it's easier to win as scum by doing the exact opposite; it's not nearly as exhilirating, though.

[ReaperCharlie]

Yeah. Honestly, it's fucking true. Say nothing. Do nothing. Half the time the town will let you live until endgame.

Case in point: C-Worl in Dynasty Warriors

His ISO: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... er_sort=Go

... Even when C-worl is providing no content, C-worl is providing no content. Feat considered impressive. ...

[ReaperCharlie]