Best Role Ideas?

[Battousai]

Remorseful Vigilante

- You can kill any night you want, but if you

kill

an innocent you will commit suicide after their role is revealed that day.

This role could get problematic if it targets a lover, 3 dead townies without the scum lifting a finger...

I think this role already exists in some form, but I don't feel like looking it up right now.

[Battousai]

In this game
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7283
Thesp was a 'day' vig that worked as you speak of battou

Yeah, but with the night vig variant other roles have more of an impact on whether or not you kill yourself. Also, that is the first time I've seen someone shorten my name to battou I believe.

[Battousai]

But by the flavor, the whistleblower sees someone enter the targets house and blows their whistle. Wouldn't that make anyone hearing it run away, thereby blocking it and the role is essentially a jailkeeper with the chance of a killer's action to get through at the cost of revealment.

[Battousai]

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[Battousai]

Don't know if this variant has been done before, but...

You are a

Hypnotist

. Once per night, you may send me the name of one person you wish to hypnotize. That person will not know you targeted them. You will give them a hypnotic command to kill the rest of the town. Once you plus the amount of people you have under your control equals half the remaining players, you will give the kill command and win.

It's a cult, but with a twist that if you get recruited, you don't know it and your alignment doesn't change.

Possible use in nightless games and/or mafialess minis or a large game.

[Battousai]

Don't know if this variant has been done before, but...

You are a

Hypnotist

. Once per night, you may send me the name of one person you wish to hypnotize. That person will not know you targeted them. You will give them a hypnotic command to kill the rest of the town. Once you plus the amount of people you have under your control equals half the remaining players, you will give the kill command and win.

It's a cult, but with a twist that if you get recruited, you don't know it and your alignment doesn't change.

Possible use in nightless games and/or mafialess minis or a large game.

Seems a bit too strong, since you only find out when it's too late.

More or less strictly inferior to a normal cult. I hate all forms of cult though.

I thought that most people hated cults because the recruited switch their alignment. In this variation, that doesn't happen, which makes it much harder for the hypnotist (cult leader) to win.

[Battousai]

The hypnotist is just like a cult leader, minus a few perks.

The recruitees can't night talk with you
The recruitees will not know who you are
The recruitees keep their win condition
When the leader's minions and himself equal to half to remaining players, only the hypnotist wins

The hypnotist is way weaker in that regard. It's essentially a SK, as stated, but instead of killing, your victims stay alive until you meet your win condition.

If they are hypnotized, their command is to kill everyone except the hypnotist, thus only the hypnotist is alive.

Zorblag: The hypnotized flip is always a possibility, based on how the mod wishes to reveal this role. I would plan it as a semi-open mini, telling the town that this role IS in the game.

This whole role is an attempt to get past the alignment switch a regular cult does.

[Battousai]

That is correct. They are unaware, like a doc protect or cop investigation. I'm just trying to improve the cult role. What would make it better, then?

[Battousai]

Knowledgeable Townie - is given one piece of information about the setup. The knowledge is publicly revealed upon death.

I had a similar role in Mind Screw Mafia (the first one I think). I was Alice from Alice in Wonderland and was told something about the setup, other than that I was a vanilla townie. But it wasn't revealed after my death (I think, as I'm pretty sure I hammered pooky in lylo for the win).

... I think I was told that Tar was a player, maybe?

[Battousai]

That's not a stronger cop, if the Coptor can not protect themselves. Otherwise it's just a stronger role.