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actiondan is interesting to me. feel safe leaning town for now i think although scum is possible
pooky a little towny
dunn a little towny although his willingness to elaborate so much on reads already was quite surprising to me. i don't think it's scummy though, just surprising
y'all i think feel eager to dig into things which is probably a good enough sign for now that id rather let you do that, although i think the point on me is one that feels misapplied
if i were to put a bet on a scum rn i think id guess STD. that's based on almost nothing however id still take the pookybucks
firebagel feels likely to be readable given time so not worried there rn
i’m going to go against the grain and say i think that this could be town fire (the game mod already laughing at me)
after having just finished a game where the opening that fire had was p fluffy/sociable like it was here, more than games prior, i feel like they would be a little more hesitant to indulge in that sort of posting. especially with people who were watching it happen it feels like it invites attention that could just be ignored
also i kind of think that this is a little sloppy to post as wolf. idr who in thread said actiondan read was like nothingness but the hedginess is obvious and i feel like idk. fire would probably… be a bit more something.
something something wolves can play sloppy too i guess said half heartedly
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Post #192 (isolation #4) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:59 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
and i don’t inherently think that the people calling it out (otoh morph and dunn and i think one other person) are inherently wolfy for jumping on it because yeah recency. i kind of liked morphs posting to this point a bit and i think dunnstral a bit more because he feels different than midsummer to me
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Post #194 (isolation #6) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:00 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
i don’t really like luke’s intro and posts on 5-6 idk why i haven’t played with him for a while so it could be that but they feel off to the vibes of the thread
I am liking Oblivion's questions at Firebagel, and am not liking firebagel's responses. But I think that I am liking Oblivions questions more then I am disliking bagel's responses.
I am also surprised by the fireisredsir fluff, and also surprised at the number of reads he churned out in 116 in response to being called out for fluff.
if i had to take a crack at it i think it’s the last part - it feels silly that he reiterated how surprised he felt as if it were a big deal and the word churned is ?_? to me here lol
In post 146, Oblivion wrote:
To those who have expressed town reads on it, can it ask for a deeper look into the why behind those sentiments from each of you, for the purpose of its mental models?
For CSF, can you explain which of the questions it asked gave that reaction and why?
your questions feel like you're trying to probe but are latching onto the wrong things in a way that feels +scum. It's mostly gut but I'll try to articulate-
Sunflower in post 13 struck me the wrong way as I wasn't expecting that post from fireisredsir, and then they had a lot of filler type posts. They then call me towny and I'm not sure what they are basing that off of either with the 4 posts I had before.
ActionDan's post 86 rubs me the wrong way because I don't agree and don't know how they reached their conclusions. Perhaps they can explain.
It... is a little concerned by this. Ignoring the part about Sunflower, what part of ActionDan's posting was strangely reached to you? This slot is calling the player who scumclaimed as an opening scum, which it thinks doesn't need much explination? Certainly there's ways to end up on either side of that read but explaining?
You appear to be an experienced player, can you explain to it why this read in particular is rubbing you the wrong way for not explaining their conclusions when half of it appears somewhat Face Value to it?
For this one, dunnstral already gave a different read on sunflower, which was 50% of Dan's list.
And like... What's the harm in asking Dan to articulate reasons when the game is this early? Even if the answer may be obvious to you.
It turns out the answer probably wasn't what you expected. What did you make of that btw?
Can you explain why you are taking a hostile/adversarial position to this line of inquery? It has a hard time believing you can't see that your entrance is above the line of suspicious and overtly drawing attention, so it wants to understand what the motivation of your doing this is? What do you aim to accomplish with this tact?
Did you miss posts 28 and 30 in your read through?
Setting that aside though, I don't really agree that the post is hostile
It looked at Dunn's post and thought that his writing about Action Dan felt contrived in a way as to make his arguments, and so wanted to pick at him to determine where he was coming from. It feels like it is worth attacking this to understand his approach.
It feels that Bagel's response to being poked by Morph was absolutely defensive/hostile over responsive, which it feels was confirmed by how it then responded to it by deflecting its question with more questions. To this point, its question still hasn't been answered.
In truth, its questions are designed to develop a mental model of players at this point. To see how they respond to questions about their approach to the game, so it can get a baseline to read them from later.
What confuses it is that you are saying that asking questions towards players to garner their intent is pro-town but call its questioning anti-town, despite it being pretty clear and apparent that it is asking questions to determine how people think and approach the game state. It can't help but wonder if this is because it prefers to ask questions from aggressors to determine their mindset instead of asking questions from those in already defensive positions who have their guard up?
i think this probably comes from town too or it’s Good Enough for me for now its the least relevant part of the post but the self reflection feels towny.
i’m less sure about csf in this interaction but it feels like there’s a discrepancy in how these two approach questioning and handle people in general and i don’t think (?) csf was approaching oblivion in “bad faith”
Theres a like ..5..? Idk how to count! Person hood and we got info that suggests scums in the hood.
I think its sus of action to say "0 or 1 scum in the hood" since i dont get why ceph would give that info if there wasnt scum in the hood?
I think hes scum trying to push the assumption of no scum in hood so he can get whateber that buff is.
In post 177, marcistar wrote:
Really! Lets all claim our hoods! i am so fucking scared of mine what if theres multiple scum i know im an easy pocket..
i’m admittedly unused to this from marci (this being like… i guess not being pseudo trolly if not all out) but it matches what i think she could post as town
like it seems out of her wheelhouse to be a wolf and go hi guys. Neighborhoods? to me lol
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Post #202 (isolation #11) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:15 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
i feel like most of my townreads so far have been people who have been varying degrees of More Active than the people i haven’t townread which is a problem for later me
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Post #208 (isolation #13) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:23 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
my reaction to that action daniel post was Wow i don’t like this. i guess because it runs opposite how i feel (the miller thing is meh to me in general) but my smart person brain reaction after is i think i can’t read actiondan until three days into this game where he will inextricably exude a powerful aura if he’s town
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Post #226 (isolation #15) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:15 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
my only superpower in mafia si being able to somewhat reliably identify if people are town while other people think they are not town. this does not mean i stop their eliminations
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Post #229 (isolation #17) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:19 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
while it was not the pinnacle of a towncase i think i want to rescind my firebagel read looking back at the earlier parts of the game i feel like she was trying a bit too hard to fit in with the Whimsy and Wonder RVS squad. i'm not sure if this matters as much for a gimmicky account because like yeah youre gonna want to interact with the people who inspired you but meh
I am liking Oblivion's questions at Firebagel, and am not liking firebagel's responses. But I think that I am liking Oblivions questions more then I am disliking bagel's responses.
I am also surprised by the fireisredsir fluff, and also surprised at the number of reads he churned out in 116 in response to being called out for fluff.
if i had to take a crack at it i think it’s the last part - it feels silly that he reiterated how surprised he felt as if it were a big deal and the word churned is ?_? to me here lol
I stand by surprised in both instances thank you very much.
When I started reading fire's posts, I seemed a little out of character for how I picture him, bit I also realized it's been a long time since I played with him, so I kinda just filed the thought away for later.
And when I hit that post, it felt like (flagrantly stealing this verbage from morph) tonal whiplash.
Given the timing, it also seemed reactionary to the people proding him for his fluffiness. The content of the reads also felt a bit weak, and it looked like he was padding out the reads to appease the haters.
That is where churned came in. Like he started the post with the idea "I need to put reads out because people are prodding me," and came up with the reads as he wrote the post. As opposed to just expressing the reads he had been developing.
I was still mulling over whether or not I thought town!fire would also feel the need to put out reads if he felt like people were starting to suspect him over his content, which is why I didn't go from calling it surprising -> calling it scummy.
The point about scum fire being able to churn out a better reads list if he felt like he needed to does ring true a little.
yeah okay i do think that's fair. in the last game which just finished recently midsummer i noted that sunflower was playing more sociable than i expected and it was because they were wolfing so i don't inherently think that's a bad thing to pressure on as previously stated
i don't have a strong mental Picture of Lukewarm but it felt like calling things repeatedly surprising was.. wrong i guess, idk if i expect you to have a bit more sureness or bite to how you approach posts and that was more of a softball like you were being timid
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Post #241 (isolation #19) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:40 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
In post 239, Sunflower wrote:
i didn't really like the CSF post about oblivion at all but i think i don't agree with dan about suspecting her for the miller claim. im probably not gonna give that much weight i think
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Post #245 (isolation #20) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:51 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
do you feel like you've always acted this.. idk i don't want to say my idea of fireisredsir is 'gloomy' really but you seem like you're more free-spirited recently so im just curious if theres a difference now in how youre approaching games
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Post #295 (isolation #22) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:41 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
im not saying this trying to be rude even though it inevitably will be, its just necessary to explain my thoughts: based off of the last few games i have seen of you where you have basically not cared at all, been petulant and unhelpful at most chances i think that showing a modicum of helpfulness and worry clears a low bar for you as town
maybe you feel an obligation to a wolf team and thus are putting in a bit more work or something but i dont really believe in that world atm
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Post #299 (isolation #24) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:44 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
In post 297, Dannflor wrote:
i think actiondan's jump on marci is the type of jump on i see from scum pretty often when they think a townie has done something objectively scummy
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Post #302 (isolation #25) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:46 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
In post 300, marcistar wrote:
After playing a game on mafiauniverse where i had a lovely girliepop esk trying to coach me (LMAO) through giving reads it has highly made me enjoy doing things.
Though i will admit here like i admitted there, i am so much more interested in my nightplay than my dayplay.
did you play one of the mentor games i did one a while back and it was pretty fun
Sunflower in post 13 struck me the wrong way as I wasn't expecting that post from fireisredsir, and then they had a lot of filler type posts. They then call me towny and I'm not sure what they are basing that off of either with the 4 posts I had before.
ActionDan's post 86 rubs me the wrong way because I don't agree and don't know how they reached their conclusions. Perhaps they can explain.
Sunflower is because of forces outside the main thread. I will not explain that at this time, but may before the day is through.
Firebagel was because as an alt that may very well only exist for the purpose of stealing Firebringer's scum claiming gimmick, it hadn't posted for a page.
OK. Why is not posting for a page scummy?
People who engage in gimmicks like that place a high priority on RVS banter to form early reads. If they do not post while the iron is hot, the utility disappears as well.
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I see our neighborhood has been outed. At first glance this worry from Maristar looks planned and manufactured. And with the goodfellas award I am discarding this as an oversensitive townie
VOTE: Maristar
Secondly CSF earns a permanent FOS for the Miller claim for this particular game alone.
revisiting this i think if dan is a wolf it's very funny to reference someone's goodfellas award to bolster a vote
i want to say it's Too Much but maybe that's early lol.
also i do think that extricating planned and manufactured from what marci said around the neighborhoods (that she was scared or it was weird or s/t) probably is bizarre to an outsider
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Post #325 (isolation #28) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:11 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
it's goofy but dan doesn't strike me as the type of person to throw that in willy nilly as a wolf idk. he seems like he would be more preoccupied with being Serious (<- has seen one game of dan and it was a town game)
I saw people arguing over pooky. Thats fucking wild and i want to say no. The pookys readlist? Animal crew? Clearly jokes why is it 3ven being debated.
Dunnstral is it actually just wifom? Im so confused but what does everyone else feel?
IM REALLY FUCKING SCARED FOR MAFIA TO GET A BUFF I WANNA ELIMINATE THAT POSSIBILITY SO BADLY.
my hoodmates are also trying to explqin this fyi, but like idk...
I also tr someone else abd i forg9t who it was uwu
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Post #443 (isolation #30) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:57 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
also marci why do you keep reiterating that you're scared specifically
i think worried maybe is like "reasonable" i guess to me but repeatedly saying that youre scared is ?_? a bit to me
or is it just hyperbole
This one maybe, I had bad feelings about those votes on Marci
For Sunflower I was a little off-put about how they reacted to Morph vs how they reacted to me when there was early suspicion, and they say it was because my read was more "gut"
I thought they were trying to take advantage of the situation but the meta they linked was pretty clear - moreso than what I expected, so I decided to back off
It's still possible that they are trying to take advantage of the situation
how do you think they would take advantage of the situation? like is it just him saying she did it in a prior game to push her here or is there anymore?
and did you have a read of dann b4 that?
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Post #476 (isolation #37) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:14 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
In post 471, Spiffeh wrote:
There's a hard-to-describe timidity to a lot of Ydrasse's posts that rubs me the wrong way and feels different from her brief stint that I observed in Kemusan. To be fair, she was IC in Kemusan and also didn't end up posting much, but the way she presented herself felt more confident and less wishy-washy. See the bolded in the below quotes for examples:
i think i want to rescind my firebagel read looking back at the earlier parts of the game i feel like she was trying a bit too hard to fit in with the Whimsy and Wonder RVS squad.
i'm not sure if this matters as much
for a gimmicky account because like yeah youre gonna want to interact with the people who inspired you but meh
dan doesn't strike me as the type of person to throw that in willy nilly as a wolf idk. he seems like he would be more preoccupied with being Serious (<- has seen one game of dan and it was a town game)
The rest of my Ydrasse meta is like four years old but I recall her being OVERLY confident in previous games and here she's playing a little too scared for my liking.
Anyone want to enlighten me on why they are town reading Ydrasse?
PEdit: that is a good vote from Ydrasse though, she's already winning me over!
i think i'm a lot different than how i used to play when i joined the site - but i think that if you checked some of how i've been playing recently this is just how i've felt in games
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Post #519 (isolation #38) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:30 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
In post 478, Spiffeh wrote:
My edible is kicking in and I am really not in the mood to keep reading so I'm going to haphazardly engage with some of you in real time until I don't feel like it anymore
PEdit: @Ydra I agreed with your assessment of Luke's early posts, how do you feel about his interaction with Morph specifically?
i think that luke came out of it feeling better to me than morph, his read about it being a jedi mind trick into town on morph felt believable. i don't think that morph was wolfy during it though
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Post #713 (isolation #40) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:35 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
i think i'm okay with killing inside of the hood but im curious if its better to leash everyone to one target and let them go for a night because i dont think any of the people in that hood are a priority to kill for wolves (?) from the outside looking in, maybe mechanically but i don't feel like any of them have exerted a lot of solving pressure thus far to make them like 'clear' targets
like if wolves want to cut down their own poe and shoot in there sure i guess that could happen
In post 1066, Shello and Goodbye wrote:
i am trying to make a readslist but it is very hard and a lot of this game feels like jello. ama for like 10 mins
What is your thoughts on how the current game state looks from a voting standpoint? This question is open ended, interpet it however you like and provide that answer.
i think that people are voting the two most likely wolves in the dethyhood and also the sunflower wagon looks a lot worse than the klick one does fmpov. people will probably coalesce on one of the two soonish
i'm using this as a jumping board to post a really ?? reads list. this is without reading back too much and feeling out the Shape of the game in my mind instead
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Post #1080 (isolation #45) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:53 pm
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
i think the biggest ! things or changes from before on that list are
- spiffeh whose recent posts after interacting with me were strange to me he felt defensive over being questioned about how he engaged with me
- dannflor i dont have a great way to verbalize this rn but he feels bizarre. my gypyx read has her there because she also noticed that too
- pooky i think is strange because usually when people get really huffy and puffy over stuff and are like "kill me and then them" i err towards them being town but with him i feel like that's in his Wolf Wheelhouse to break out easily so idk what to make of it
- there's a lot of goop in the middle of the top section i think that if i do not have all of the wolves in the bottom tiers for both parts of the list i's in like penguin/csf/oblivion (the last one i want to revisit tmrw because some of its recent posting pinged me and i think its for the questions being asked?)
- i think the most ?? of my reads in the bottom part is probably dragons because in-thread has been just fine but from what ive gleaned from posting his neighborhood stuff has been good
Marci because she was so visibly uncomfortable and confused by her role/neighborhood and very suspicious of the hood until things began to click for her both within the hood and externally, in the game thread. I could see the gears turning (and grinding) in her posts. Everything about the way she revealed what was going on just built onto that foundation in a very natural and unstructured way. I also think that scum Marci would want to give us much more of a wide berth than she has.
Hermit Crab as a hidden hydra wouldn't go out of their way to support us as they have. There would be no need and we wouldn't think twice about a more cautious approach from an unknown quantity. And we're enough of a threat as scum that it would be a no-brainer to wait and see what town actually makes of us this game. There's also an incredible amount of mindmeld going on with Hermit Crab which I believe doesn't happen this way if they're scum.
Luke as town has a POV (that I don't want to discuss in detail because it's filed under competitive advantage) that we feel confident in reading when we see it. I interacted with him and pushed back at him long enough for us both to feel confident about that POV being present.
If I were pushing outside Marci's neighborhood, I'd be voting Spiffeh at the moment for this post. We discussed whether to vote in the dethy or outside of it before putting our Klick vote down. The deciding factor was the dethy players' preferences for cleaning their hood.
Sync Achieved indeed.
What are your thoughts on Dunnstraal?
I think Dunnstral's been scumhunting and pushing people pretty hard once there was more to sink his teeth into. My read had gone leantown before then but his reaction to Spiffeh re ActionDan made a pretty big positive impression.
Really? It felt quite the opposite. The reason it asked is because you earmarked Spiffeh for scum and from its current engagements with Spiffeh, it has an internal note to flip Dunnstraal if Spiffeh is scum.
@oblivion
it's actually this i think - i don't think there's anything... inherently 'wrong' with this post itself on the surface but it feels a bit like something i've seen wolves post before. this is really vague and im struggling to give a why, i guess it's the linking to a better read player and starting to string them together. i think if spiffeh does flip wolf its the sort of thing i revisit critically (i am stringing you together now with spiffeh lol)
In post 1083, Shello and Goodbye wrote:
i'm listing the neighborhood independently from my main reads it's not that they're all that low lol
Can you give a sense of where they slot in overall?
- having the context of why marci's been talking about being afraid this game and worried and etc makes more sense to me and i dont think she would handle it this way if she were a wolf or idek if she would be able
- actiondan isnt wolfy to me really i think back to that post where he voted marci and that just is town to me. i think he would be playing a little sloppy if he were a wolf too with how he handled the miller stuff it falls apart very easily. wolves Can Be Sloppy but... eh?
- already explained dragons
- klick and sunflower are kind of in the same place here by virtue of the other three being townier i think, dragons is contentious because of no in-thread but trusting what's going on in the neighborhood instead. going strictly off of wagon i think sunflower is the town between these two and i dont think fire plays midsummer 2 here as an opener
In post 335, Klick wrote:
morph, do either of you have an opinion on Dannflor yet
I may have missed it if you answered my question. I'm curious about the meaning of your tags in your reads list. what do strikethroughs and bolding denote?
I will answer
Could I ask what your best guess is first?
Our best guess is that the strikethroughs mean you've found them town enough for now, and the bolds are your scumreads/concerns.
That's basically accurate
I find value in it being ambiguous. I like to experiment with different methods of expressing my thoughts on the game. I also enjoy extracting information out of how people engage with different levels of ambiguity vs straightforwardness. I often find that some people's assumptions about things like that are pretty closely attached to alignment.
I'll occasionally shift how willing I am to highlight someone in one direction or another just to try it out and see what will happen
this is i think really tangential and the least sensical take for klick but i thought that this felt weird at the time because it doesnt quite match what i would expect him to answer. i dont know what that answer would -be- though. otherwise his recent posting seems like hes not very comfortable in thread
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Post #1105 (isolation #52) » Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:08 pm
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
In post 1095, Oblivion wrote:
That is a confusing take. Have you read the bit of it and spiffeh's interaction on page 7?
It will outline for you why it thinks the way it does. In essence while poking at Spiffeh, spiffeh appeared to want to change its mind about things. It was confused, initially because... it didn't HAVE a strong solid take away on Bagel OR Dunnstraal yet. And yet this player seemed to be... intoning something towards it? And then by the response it was given in the end, it felt like Spiffeh had an agenda to be manipulating it.
It is FULLY aware of its position in this game. It is newer, it is less known and knows less of everyone. It expects it will be the target of manipulation tactics to control it. That was the kind of tactic is was on high alert for.
So, in its mind, if Spiffeh was scum trying to control it as what he might view as a weaker mind to misdirect, why would Spiffeh do that? What is the intended angle? the intended angle would be either
Make it believe they are town
convince it to change its mind on one of the two reads
but it wasn't.... sweet enough for the first. It didn't feel like it was trying to be swayed to have its eyes covered on the case of Spiffeh's alignment. So it assumes the second. And if Bagel is town...
There's the end of that logic chain.
looking back at it now i can see the angle of 'spiffeh is trying to pocket oblivion by being niceish on arrival' but i dont agree with the take wrt dunnstral. i think it would be heavyhanded to try and butter someone up to their partner that early into the game without having a better rapport, also i think that if spiffeh wants to say 'this is my strongest read' he has to later 1) make up towny reasons for his wolf partner to be town or 2) figure out a way to walk away from that over time
and i dont think that... that level of strategy really happens between partners early on, idk. maybe it does and he wasnt thinking about the consequences but it doesnt seem likely to me that theyre partnered off of this
In post 743, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
i have absolutely no issue with being vigged as long as whoever shoots me shoots morph next night
if someone repeats four times in the first day of a game for any vig to shoot me, I'm going to ask that if it's done that they pay with their lives on the next night.
that is not me asking to get shot or killed. I have not at any point asked to die or whatever.
i mean the point i cared more about was the first part where you okayed being shot which is something, if not in this exact context, ive done as wolf more than once and i feel you would do too. you can be town being upset too but from experience i just feel like you get more upset/angry/etc like this as a wolf sorry
In post 1083, Shello and Goodbye wrote:
i'm listing the neighborhood independently from my main reads it's not that they're all that low lol
Can you give a sense of where they slot in overall?
- having the context of why marci's been talking about being afraid this game and worried and etc makes more sense to me and i dont think she would handle it this way if she were a wolf or idek if she would be able
- actiondan isnt wolfy to me really i think back to that post where he voted marci and that just is town to me. i think he would be playing a little sloppy if he were a wolf too with how he handled the miller stuff it falls apart very easily. wolves Can Be Sloppy but... eh?
- already explained dragons
- klick and sunflower are kind of in the same place here by virtue of the other three being townier i think, dragons is contentious because of no in-thread but trusting what's going on in the neighborhood instead. going strictly off of wagon i think sunflower is the town between these two and i dont think fire plays midsummer 2 here as an opener
I meant where they'd individually fall in your overall reads list or tier list if that's how you're sorting.
Maybe I'm asking for something that isn't baked enough yet.
i havent really thought about those five like that but i think they would roughly map the same, marci up near the top, dragons and dan low-town, sunflower probably top of the 'would vote today' pile and klick a bit below
i dont feel strongly about those though i think in this game there are too many people for me to feel really okay about tiered/organized reads so having the five separate is a good way to split the burden
In post 1108, Shello and Goodbye wrote:
i mean the point i cared more about was the first part where you okayed being shot which is something, if not in this exact context, ive done as wolf more than once and i feel you would do too. you can be town being upset too but from experience i just feel like you get more upset/angry/etc like this as a wolf sorry
my point is I have never asked to be killed in this game so it is strange to me that is what you are getting from what I posted.
I simply said IF a vig actually listens to Cabd's constant harping that they should do me a favor and get hit on the next night
i disagree with that frankly but i dont wanna go blow for blow on this if youre like this rn, we can talk some other time if you want to
In post 485, Sunflower wrote:
people keep being overly eager to paint meta reads off incomplete/inaccurate data with no shame or concern whatsoever and the fact that some of them are doing it as town is annoying
Who are you sub tweeting here?
spiffeh and morph mostly
i think there was a third that made it feel like a pattern but idr who
Have you considered that I was using my admittedly flimsy meta read on Ydra as an entry point to engage with her and see if others felt the same way as me about the things that DO bother me?
(I recognize this is an unfair thing to assume that you would catch, but the above is approximately 40% of the reason I presented that post in the way that I did!)
Also which of the two of us are "doing it as town"?
Does he really continue to double down on the miller thing as scum when it’s clearly rubbing people the wrong way and worsening his already vulnerable position?
spiffeh this wa mostly what i was talking about for how you felt defensive in the first post and in the second for your tone (i don’t think i explicitly said this) feeling a bit insincere at times - it’s like you’re going WOW guys i can’t BELIEVE this. film students first acting moment sort of vibes lol
i’m not feeling this as much this morning though. i don’t know if you were wolf if you would keep after me so much and so specifically. i think wolves can have pet projects that make them look busy but idk right now i think you’re maybe being sincere about your concerns @ me
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Post #1297 (isolation #59) » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:58 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
klick can you explain your sunflower read since you’re doubting it now but it also looks like it was your one wolfread beyond the neighborhood (i think)?
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Post #1298 (isolation #60) » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:58 am
Postby Shello and Goodbye »
i think i’d find it bizarre personally if there’s not a wolf in the hood and seeing you being kind of poe’d in it and trying to suggest a 0 world is a little ? to me i guess